Fetterman - Oz Debate — anyone keeping tabs on this?

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Anonymous wrote:Experts on strokes have repeatedly noted that what his stroke did was result in an auditory processing disorder that will get better over time, and that his cognitive abilities, i.e. intelligence, are in tact. The media is stoking this fear that he's somehow "dumber" since experiencing a stroke, when the experts, albeit buried at the bottom of most articles, state otherwise.

Adding that Dr. Oz had the opportunity to be a decent human being and explain that as a medical professional, to say, hey, I'm not going to medically gaslight him or anyone else, these are the facts, let's be decent humans and debate the issues and give him the needed accommodations in this moment. But of course he didn't do that because he's a POS snake oil salesman.

Nonsense. He got the accommodations he requested, as well as only one debate that should have occurred much sooner than it did.

You Dems basically just want Republican candidates to bend over for your flawed candidates. This is not some football game where the opposing team will step aside so a disabled kid can score a touchdown.

You're just repeating the lie that he is flawed b/c of his stroke. He is not. (See above). You, sir or ma'am, are an awful person.

He was a slacker long before he had his stroke. The stroke had nothing to do with him never having a job in the private sector his whole life and mooching off his parents until he was 50. Or pretending to be some kind of blue collar working man because he thought people would buy his schtick.

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You just described my husband. Who said all people have to work for income?

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Anonymous wrote:You just described my husband. Who said all people have to work for income?

DP. I wouldn't vote for your husband to be a U.S. Senator either. And I wouldn't be proud that he was living off his parents' UMC (they are not Rothschilds) income or my own. But that's your personal life.

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Anonymous wrote:Experts on strokes have repeatedly noted that what his stroke did was result in an auditory processing disorder that will get better over time, and that his cognitive abilities, i.e. intelligence, are in tact. The media is stoking this fear that he's somehow "dumber" since experiencing a stroke, when the experts, albeit buried at the bottom of most articles, state otherwise.

And, these so-called "experts" have not examined him. We have no way of knowing if it will get better over time and whether or not the stroke impacted his cognition.
We cannot take his word for it because he and his campaign have been less than transparent from the beginning. And, he was not in great health prior to the stroke.

Every stroke is different and a person's recovery is different.
Why will he not take a cognitive test? Why will he not release his medical records?

Might it be because his stroke was worse than he and his campaign have been stating and they really do have something to hide?

(And, BTW - I have heard "experts" that have stated the most improvement happens in the first 6 mo. and that after that, very little changes. But, once again - everyone is different.)

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Anonymous wrote:You just described my husband. Who said all people have to work for income?

DP. I wouldn't vote for your husband to be a U.S. Senator either. And I wouldn't be proud that he was living off his parents' UMC (they are not Rothschilds) income or my own. But that's your personal life.

Meh. What are Oz’s qualifications?

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Anonymous wrote:You just described my husband. Who said all people have to work for income?

DP. I wouldn't vote for your husband to be a U.S. Senator either. And I wouldn't be proud that he was living off his parents' UMC (they are not Rothschilds) income or my own. But that's your personal life.

Meh. What are Oz’s qualifications?

Not living in his parent's basement for 49 years.

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Anonymous wrote:You just described my husband. Who said all people have to work for income?

DP. I wouldn't vote for your husband to be a U.S. Senator either. And I wouldn't be proud that he was living off his parents' UMC (they are not Rothschilds) income or my own. But that's your personal life.

Meh. What are Oz’s qualifications?

Not living in his parent's basement for 49 years.

You seem confused. Did you just step out of a basement for the first time?

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PA Dems made a big mistake by not pulling Fetterman out. Oz was a weak candidate and there was plenty of time to find someone else to challenge him. I feel bad for Fetterman. Whether or not his cognition remains intact, the man cannot speak sensibly. This is not MA or CT where a Democrat on life support could reliably win. There is little margin for error in PA and I fear a majority of voters are going to support Oz, even if many of them don’t like him.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you trashing Fetterman clearly have issues with those with disabilities or differing abilities. So I'm calling the bigots for what they are. Difficulty with speech does not mean mentally impaired. There is nothing to indicate that he is mentally impaired or has worse odds of keeling over than the dozens of 80 year olds in Congress right now.

I’m not picking on Fetterman because he had a stroke. I’m picking on him because he’s a complete and utter fraud.

He’s trying to pretend to be the vanguard of “the working class”, wearing hoodies and carhardt jackets and showing his sleeve tattoos and talking about the struggle of the blue collar people.

The truth is he comes from a wealthy family, has never had a real job outside of politics, and has literally NEVER worked a day in his life in the kinds of jobs he wants his image to portray. He wants people to think he was a career tradesman, like an electrician or a plumber, because he wears a hoodie or a workman’s coat. Nope. He was a small town mayor, and then a lieutenant governor.

The guy’s whole persona is a sham. He’s fake. He’s just a run of the mill leftist progressive. Even the police dept FOP of his old town where he was mayor won’t endorse him.

He’s a phony.

As opposed to Dr. Oz - the guy whose dad is a wealthy surgeon and mom who comes from wealthy Ottoman royalty? Who paid for his elite Ivy education and med school at Penn? That "man of the people"?

Give me a break. Guys like Oz haven't spent one day with the "working class." He glided from prep school, to Harvard, to Penn, to hobnobbing with other doctors and eventually celebrities.

Fetterman also had an elite college education paid by family. Fetterman also glided through life paid for by family money.

Oz at least worked jobs.

Snake oil salesman is not a job to respect. Let’s face it. He made a lot of money promoting fraudulent health care, preying on vulnerable people. That is despicable and you should be ashamed of yourself for supporting someone so lacking in integrity.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you trashing Fetterman clearly have issues with those with disabilities or differing abilities. So I'm calling the bigots for what they are. Difficulty with speech does not mean mentally impaired. There is nothing to indicate that he is mentally impaired or has worse odds of keeling over than the dozens of 80 year olds in Congress right now.

I’m not picking on Fetterman because he had a stroke. I’m picking on him because he’s a complete and utter fraud.

He’s trying to pretend to be the vanguard of “the working class”, wearing hoodies and carhardt jackets and showing his sleeve tattoos and talking about the struggle of the blue collar people.

The truth is he comes from a wealthy family, has never had a real job outside of politics, and has literally NEVER worked a day in his life in the kinds of jobs he wants his image to portray. He wants people to think he was a career tradesman, like an electrician or a plumber, because he wears a hoodie or a workman’s coat. Nope. He was a small town mayor, and then a lieutenant governor.

The guy’s whole persona is a sham. He’s fake. He’s just a run of the mill leftist progressive. Even the police dept FOP of his old town where he was mayor won’t endorse him.

He’s a phony.

As opposed to Dr. Oz - the guy whose dad is a wealthy surgeon and mom who comes from wealthy Ottoman royalty? Who paid for his elite Ivy education and med school at Penn? That "man of the people"?

Give me a break. Guys like Oz haven't spent one day with the "working class." He glided from prep school, to Harvard, to Penn, to hobnobbing with other doctors and eventually celebrities.

Fetterman also had an elite college education paid by family. Fetterman also glided through life paid for by family money.

Oz at least worked jobs.

Snake oil salesman is not a job to respect. Let’s face it. He made a lot of money promoting fraudulent health care, preying on vulnerable people. That is despicable and you should be ashamed of yourself for supporting someone so lacking in integrity.

After Trump, it should be clear that a total lack of integrity is no disqualifier in the GOP.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody can point to a single accomplishment of Fetteman’s that justify his candidacy. He’s failed upwards whilst living off of his parents until he was 49 years old. Quite a role model for our youth.

He seems so much more qualified and decent than the other guy, who is a TV charlatan best known for selling snake oil and doesn't even live in PA.

Again, you can’t point to any accomplishment. And you do realize that it’s possible that they are both unqualified or is that too difficult a concept to process?

For Senate, I don't need to point to be any particular accomplishment. He's been a mayor and a lieutenant gov which is more experienced in government than Oz. Has. He understands politics and procedure in a way that yet another talk show host TV celebrity doesn't.

And I tend to agree with his positions.

You hold your elected officials to remarkably low standards and you likely know next to nothing about Fetterman. He drove a small municipality into the ground with his ridiculous policies while earning a whopping $700/year for his effort. Quite an accomplished fellow. What’s truly horrifying is that we let uninformed imbeciles like you vote.

I am not uninformed, I am not an imbecile, and I don't see how insults help any conversation.
Let's look at the qualifications for some of the Republican running that you would surely vote for:
JD Vance:wrote a book that has been largely maligned as more about it has come out. "Moved" to a state he doesn't live in to run.
Oz: talk show host who sold questionable and often dangerous products. "Moved" to a state he doesn't live in to run.
H. Walker: former football player, likely with CTE, absolutely no experience and ability to form a coherent sentence.
Blake Masters; yet another VC guy who has ties to Thiel. Eww.

Let's not pretend that you care about qualifications more than the R after the name. AN educated former mayor, current LG, and sharp candidate who has actually lived in the state he is running for is far more qualified than these loons. But

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody can point to a single accomplishment of Fetteman’s that justify his candidacy. He’s failed upwards whilst living off of his parents until he was 49 years old. Quite a role model for our youth.

He seems so much more qualified and decent than the other guy, who is a TV charlatan best known for selling snake oil and doesn't even live in PA.

Again, you can’t point to any accomplishment. And you do realize that it’s possible that they are both unqualified or is that too difficult a concept to process?

For Senate, I don't need to point to be any particular accomplishment. He's been a mayor and a lieutenant gov which is more experienced in government than Oz. Has. He understands politics and procedure in a way that yet another talk show host TV celebrity doesn't.

And I tend to agree with his positions.

You hold your elected officials to remarkably low standards and you likely know next to nothing about Fetterman. He drove a small municipality into the ground with his ridiculous policies while earning a whopping $700/year for his effort. Quite an accomplished fellow. What’s truly horrifying is that we let uninformed imbeciles like you vote.

I am not uninformed, I am not an imbecile, and I don't see how insults help any conversation.
Let's look at the qualifications for some of the Republican running that you would surely vote for:
JD Vance:wrote a book that has been largely maligned as more about it has come out. "Moved" to a state he doesn't live in to run.
Oz: talk show host who sold questionable and often dangerous products. "Moved" to a state he doesn't live in to run.
H. Walker: former football player, likely with CTE, absolutely no experience and ability to form a coherent sentence.
Blake Masters; yet another VC guy who has ties to Thiel. Eww.

Let's not pretend that you care about qualifications more than the R after the name. AN educated former mayor, current LG, and sharp candidate who has actually lived in the state he is running for is far more qualified than these loons.

Good summary. Just adding that Herschel also moved to a state he doesn’t live in to run. He has lived in Texas for decades.

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Anonymous wrote:You just described my husband. Who said all people have to work for income?

DP. I wouldn't vote for your husband to be a U.S. Senator either. And I wouldn't be proud that he was living off his parents' UMC (they are not Rothschilds) income or my own. But that's your personal life.

Meh. What are Oz’s qualifications?

He’s competent and built a very successful career for himself and his family. He’s eloquent, intelligent and empathetic. Fetterman is none of those things. I don’t live in PA but it seems ridiculous that voters chose Fetterman over Lamb in the primary.

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Anonymous wrote:You just described my husband. Who said all people have to work for income?

DP. I wouldn't vote for your husband to be a U.S. Senator either. And I wouldn't be proud that he was living off his parents' UMC (they are not Rothschilds) income or my own. But that's your personal life.

Meh. What are Oz’s qualifications?

He’s competent and built a very successful career for himself and his family. He’s eloquent, intelligent and empathetic. Fetterman is none of those things. I don’t live in PA but it seems ridiculous that voters chose Fetterman over Lamb in the primary.

Oz is so empathetic that he’s condoned his campaign making fun of Fetterman’s stroke, if not doing so himself. And he has been a quack for over a decade.
MAGAs are gullible fools.

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Anonymous wrote:You just described my husband. Who said all people have to work for income?

DP. I wouldn't vote for your husband to be a U.S. Senator either. And I wouldn't be proud that he was living off his parents' UMC (they are not Rothschilds) income or my own. But that's your personal life.

Meh. What are Oz’s qualifications?

He’s competent and built a very successful career for himself and his family. He’s eloquent, intelligent and empathetic. Fetterman is none of those things. I don’t live in PA but it seems ridiculous that voters chose Fetterman over Lamb in the primary.

If conning people by selling them nonsense potions equates with successful career than sure.