NYT article on LCPS high school re: racism

[Anonymous]

You know what? I empathize more strongly with the young man. I can only imagine what it is like being in a minority that is treated this way, watching your classmates use this language, and seeing no consequences for the people doing it. He was hurt and guess what, hurt and angry people lash out. Y’all are just mad at him because his gambit worked and for once a white student DID have to contend with the consequences of her actions. I hope this is a lesson to other white kids that what you put on the internet will follow you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He's not even black. And she did put herself in someone else's shoes and apologize years earlier. The person who was not able to put himself in someone else's shoes was Jimmy. Jimmy's family is very wealthy and even uses the slurs themselves. So why hold someone else to a higher standard?

His mother is black.

And his father is white.

Okay..
and the kid is a judge-y a**.

YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO JUDGE RACISM it’s like the one thing it’s GOOD to be judgmental about

[Anonymous]

This is sad for both kids; both will find this following them through their lives.

Do Jimmy Galligan's parents condone what he did? The fact that they're not in the story expressing support is pretty telling.

Personally, I wouldn't want my teenage son saving a video to punish his former friend for the sins of Heritage High School's racists. And I sure as heck wouldn't want my daughter anywhere near someone like Jimmy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't get over the level of anger being exposed on this thread. People really identify with this young woman and the shades of grey at using the N word have been totally overlooked in the need to empathize with her. I think this is where systemic racism is at it's worst. Historically white people have had the most power and the ability to empathize with only people who look like them continues to have major consequences for people who don't.

She wasn't even addressing anyone in particular. She said all of 4 words and not in an angry way. I can't detect any anger in her words. The 3 second clip was when she was 15. Do you think someone should be attacked and told to leave college for this? It's just not worthy of the reaction this guy had. He's trying to retaliate in a very poor way.

It doesn't matter if she wasn't addressing anyone. It is a word she should not have said. I am glad she apologized for what she did but there are consequences for our actions. I find the idealization and identification with this girl disproportionate and think it is due at least in part to the inability to put yourself in this young man's shoes because he is black. Again that is why systemic racisms is so awful. The inability to put yourself in a person's shoes who doesn't look like you. If you have no power then it's not so bad, when you have all the power it's awful what this lack of empathy inflicts on people with less power

What pablum. People don’t sympathize with the mixed-race young man because he deliberately bided his time and then tried to sabotage another student’s life and he comes across in other social media as a spoiled, manipulative, attention-seeking twit.

Yeah exactly my point you sound real angry that this kid waited to out this girl. So angry on the behalf of someone you don't know. You identify with this girl because of the color of her skin, which proves my point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know what? I empathize more strongly with the young man. I can only imagine what it is like being in a minority that is treated this way, watching your classmates use this language, and seeing no consequences for the people doing it. He was hurt and guess what, hurt and angry people lash out. Y’all are just mad at him because his gambit worked and for once a white student DID have to contend with the consequences of her actions. I hope this is a lesson to other white kids that what you put on the internet will follow you.

That’s how I feel. She is clearly a proxy for how whiteness has hurt him his whole life. Imagine being Black and growing up in river creek with a bunch of racist White people. That had to be so painful. Nobody empathizes with that though. Only with her. Because they know that could be their daughter but they don’t see anything of themselves or their kids in Jimmy. It’s sad. Her consequences actually were minor. She will be just fine. And it never would have happened had she a) not said it to begin with and b) didn’t front as a BLM as pays this summer when he knew damn well how she really was.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Weirdest part of this for me is that Galligan is attending an evangelical Christian college. I wonder if his behavior might violate its code of conduct.

His mom’s social media references believing in God, prayer requests, etc so he appears to be from a religious family.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He's not even black. And she did put herself in someone else's shoes and apologize years earlier. The person who was not able to put himself in someone else's shoes was Jimmy. Jimmy's family is very wealthy and even uses the slurs themselves. So why hold someone else to a higher standard?

A Black teen boy can’t put himself in the shoes of a ... rich white teenage girl who casually uses racial slurs? Why SHOULD he? He clearly has a lot of internalized anger and a complex racial identity because of his dad bit so many of you act like she did NOTHING wrong. A white student in my class once called the one Black girl in that class a slave. I LET HIM HAVE IT, made him apologize and then called his mom who didn’t care at all. Makes sense now. It’s endemic here. and my kids have to go to school with your kids!who you’re teaching this is completely okay. They’re ENTITLED to use the n word because nothing is off limits for white kids. And you all seriously think what she did is fine or if not fine, excusable and someone else’s fault and if not that you just hate Jimmy more.

If people felt she’d done nothing wrong they would be saying she had nothing to apologize for, either then or when the article was written. And they aren’t.

But most do believe the other kid was a jerk and the consequences she’s since suffered were disproportionate and the result of a bad combination of a vengeful classmate and some cowardly adults scared of their own shadow.

Black kids get into less trouble at public schools more serious offenses, and even then you people complain about the statistics and demand “restorative justice” that means talking it out with no real consequences.

[Anonymous]

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This is sad for both kids; both will find this following them through their lives.

Do Jimmy Galligan's parents condone what he did? The fact that they're not in the story expressing support is pretty telling.

Personally, I wouldn't want my teenage son saving a video to punish his former friend for the sins of Heritage High School's racists. And I sure as heck wouldn't want my daughter anywhere near someone like Jimmy.

Funny you don’t say “I wouldn’t want my daughter to BE RACIST.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He's not even black. And she did put herself in someone else's shoes and apologize years earlier. The person who was not able to put himself in someone else's shoes was Jimmy. Jimmy's family is very wealthy and even uses the slurs themselves. So why hold someone else to a higher standard?

A Black teen boy can’t put himself in the shoes of a ... rich white teenage girl who casually uses racial slurs? Why SHOULD he? He clearly has a lot of internalized anger and a complex racial identity because of his dad bit so many of you act like she did NOTHING wrong. A white student in my class once called the one Black girl in that class a slave. I LET HIM HAVE IT, made him apologize and then called his mom who didn’t care at all. Makes sense now. It’s endemic here. and my kids have to go to school with your kids!who you’re teaching this is completely okay. They’re ENTITLED to use the n word because nothing is off limits for white kids. And you all seriously think what she did is fine or if not fine, excusable and someone else’s fault and if not that you just hate Jimmy more.

If people felt she’d done nothing wrong they would be saying she had nothing to apologize for, either then or when the article was written. And they aren’t.

But most do believe the other kid was a jerk and the consequences she’s since suffered were disproportionate and the result of a bad combination of a vengeful classmate and some cowardly adults scared of their own shadow.

Black kids get into less trouble at public schools more serious offenses, and even then you people complain about the statistics and demand “restorative justice” that means talking it out with no real consequences.

Her only consequence has been having to withdraw from a crappy school! Oh no! She is rich and white. She will go somewhere else. She clearly has tons of support from other rich White people. Her main consequence is embarrassment and she should be embarrassed for what she did. Now she knows don’t say the N word. And might raise her own kids better than she was raised.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know what? I empathize more strongly with the young man. I can only imagine what it is like being in a minority that is treated this way, watching your classmates use this language, and seeing no consequences for the people doing it. He was hurt and guess what, hurt and angry people lash out. Y’all are just mad at him because his gambit worked and for once a white student DID have to contend with the consequences of her actions. I hope this is a lesson to other white kids that what you put on the internet will follow you.

That’s how I feel. She is clearly a proxy for how whiteness has hurt him his whole life. Imagine being Black and growing up in river creek with a bunch of racist White people. That had to be so painful. Nobody empathizes with that though. Only with her. Because they know that could be their daughter but they don’t see anything of themselves or their kids in Jimmy. It’s sad. Her consequences actually were minor. She will be just fine. And it never would have happened had she a) not said it to begin with and b) didn’t front as a BLM as pays this summer when he knew damn well how she really was.

What a load of BS. People don’t identify with manipulative snitches.

Jimmy is a coward and a punk. He didn’t try and get his father fired but he was willing to screw up this girl’s life for something she said when she was 15.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He's not even black. And she did put herself in someone else's shoes and apologize years earlier. The person who was not able to put himself in someone else's shoes was Jimmy. Jimmy's family is very wealthy and even uses the slurs themselves. So why hold someone else to a higher standard?

A Black teen boy can’t put himself in the shoes of a ... rich white teenage girl who casually uses racial slurs? Why SHOULD he? He clearly has a lot of internalized anger and a complex racial identity because of his dad bit so many of you act like she did NOTHING wrong. A white student in my class once called the one Black girl in that class a slave. I LET HIM HAVE IT, made him apologize and then called his mom who didn’t care at all. Makes sense now. It’s endemic here. and my kids have to go to school with your kids!who you’re teaching this is completely okay. They’re ENTITLED to use the n word because nothing is off limits for white kids. And you all seriously think what she did is fine or if not fine, excusable and someone else’s fault and if not that you just hate Jimmy more.

If people felt she’d done nothing wrong they would be saying she had nothing to apologize for, either then or when the article was written. And they aren’t.

But most do believe the other kid was a jerk and the consequences she’s since suffered were disproportionate and the result of a bad combination of a vengeful classmate and some cowardly adults scared of their own shadow.

Black kids get into less trouble at public schools more serious offenses, and even then you people complain about the statistics and demand “restorative justice” that means talking it out with no real consequences.

Her only consequence has been having to withdraw from a crappy school! Oh no! She is rich and white. She will go somewhere else. She clearly has tons of support from other rich White people. Her main consequence is embarrassment and she should be embarrassed for what she did. Now she knows don’t say the N word. And might raise her own kids better than she was raised.

Her parents raised a better kid than the Galligans did. They raised a toxic and manipulative twit whom no one will want to employ in any public-facing job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know what? I empathize more strongly with the young man. I can only imagine what it is like being in a minority that is treated this way, watching your classmates use this language, and seeing no consequences for the people doing it. He was hurt and guess what, hurt and angry people lash out. Y’all are just mad at him because his gambit worked and for once a white student DID have to contend with the consequences of her actions. I hope this is a lesson to other white kids that what you put on the internet will follow you.

That’s how I feel. She is clearly a proxy for how whiteness has hurt him his whole life. Imagine being Black and growing up in river creek with a bunch of racist White people. That had to be so painful. Nobody empathizes with that though. Only with her. Because they know that could be their daughter but they don’t see anything of themselves or their kids in Jimmy. It’s sad. Her consequences actually were minor. She will be just fine. And it never would have happened had she a) not said it to begin with and b) didn’t front as a BLM as pays this summer when he knew damn well how she really was.

What a load of BS. People don’t identify with manipulative snitches.

Jimmy is a coward and a punk. He didn’t try and get his father fired but he was willing to screw up this girl’s life for something she said when she was 15.

Mimi is a privileged and ignorant. Too many people identify with her. Her life is far from over. Having to withdraw from one college won’t hinder her in the slightest. The people who relate to her will continue to uplift her.

[Anonymous]

So how will you counsel Jimmy when no one wants to hire from him?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know what? I empathize more strongly with the young man. I can only imagine what it is like being in a minority that is treated this way, watching your classmates use this language, and seeing no consequences for the people doing it. He was hurt and guess what, hurt and angry people lash out. Y’all are just mad at him because his gambit worked and for once a white student DID have to contend with the consequences of her actions. I hope this is a lesson to other white kids that what you put on the internet will follow you.

That’s how I feel. She is clearly a proxy for how whiteness has hurt him his whole life. Imagine being Black and growing up in river creek with a bunch of racist White people. That had to be so painful. Nobody empathizes with that though. Only with her. Because they know that could be their daughter but they don’t see anything of themselves or their kids in Jimmy. It’s sad. Her consequences actually were minor. She will be just fine. And it never would have happened had she a) not said it to begin with and b) didn’t front as a BLM as pays this summer when he knew damn well how she really was.

What a load of BS. People don’t identify with manipulative snitches.

Jimmy is a coward and a punk. He didn’t try and get his father fired but he was willing to screw up this girl’s life for something she said when she was 15.

Mimi is a privileged and ignorant. Too many people identify with her. Her life is far from over. Having to withdraw from one college won’t hinder her in the slightest. The people who relate to her will continue to uplift her.

It’s good that people will assess her based on her character today, just as they’ll take Galligan’s premeditated act of sabotage while 18 into account in assessing his lack thereof.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He's not even black. And she did put herself in someone else's shoes and apologize years earlier. The person who was not able to put himself in someone else's shoes was Jimmy. Jimmy's family is very wealthy and even uses the slurs themselves. So why hold someone else to a higher standard?

A Black teen boy can’t put himself in the shoes of a ... rich white teenage girl who casually uses racial slurs? Why SHOULD he? He clearly has a lot of internalized anger and a complex racial identity because of his dad bit so many of you act like she did NOTHING wrong. A white student in my class once called the one Black girl in that class a slave. I LET HIM HAVE IT, made him apologize and then called his mom who didn’t care at all. Makes sense now. It’s endemic here. and my kids have to go to school with your kids!who you’re teaching this is completely okay. They’re ENTITLED to use the n word because nothing is off limits for white kids. And you all seriously think what she did is fine or if not fine, excusable and someone else’s fault and if not that you just hate Jimmy more.

If people felt she’d done nothing wrong they would be saying she had nothing to apologize for, either then or when the article was written. And they aren’t.

But most do believe the other kid was a jerk and the consequences she’s since suffered were disproportionate and the result of a bad combination of a vengeful classmate and some cowardly adults scared of their own shadow.

Black kids get into less trouble at public schools more serious offenses, and even then you people complain about the statistics and demand “restorative justice” that means talking it out with no real consequences.

Her only consequence has been having to withdraw from a crappy school! Oh no! She is rich and white. She will go somewhere else. She clearly has tons of support from other rich White people. Her main consequence is embarrassment and she should be embarrassed for what she did. Now she knows don’t say the N word. And might raise her own kids better than she was raised.

Her parents raised a better kid than the Galligans did. They raised a toxic and manipulative twit whom no one will want to employ in any public-facing job.

Yep. She was raised it’s fine to toss out slurs.