Was accidentally on a group text...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My god. This thread has gotten so off the rails.

It’s also obvious how some people on here are self projecting their own experiences who have “that child” and overreacting and telling OP to do crazy things....

Yes, lots of snowflake moms who relate to OP. Parents who don't take responsibility for their children's behavior are the worst. They'll need to stock up on participation trophies.

Pot meet kettle. Amazing that a spirited child would bother a woman so much that the next week she feels the need to point it out again in a group text with other fellow mothers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Until I remarried, I only had girls. One started getting loud. I worked with her on it.

I know have a stepson and an adopted son. Both are a reasonable volume because they understand how rude it is to others.

That’s called good parenting. Thank you!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My god. This thread has gotten so off the rails.

It’s also obvious how some people on here are self projecting their own experiences who have “that child” and overreacting and telling OP to do crazy things....

Yes, lots of snowflake moms who relate to OP. Parents who don't take responsibility for their children's behavior are the worst. They'll need to stock up on participation trophies.

Pot meet kettle. Amazing that a spirited child would bother a woman so much that the next week she feels the need to point it out again in a group text with other fellow mothers.

We all know what “spirited” is code for. Sometimes people decide to say it out loud.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My god. This thread has gotten so off the rails.

It’s also obvious how some people on here are self projecting their own experiences who have “that child” and overreacting and telling OP to do crazy things....

Yes, lots of snowflake moms who relate to OP. Parents who don't take responsibility for their children's behavior are the worst. They'll need to stock up on participation trophies.

Pot meet kettle. Amazing that a spirited child would bother a woman so much that the next week she feels the need to point it out again in a group text with other fellow mothers.

We all know what “spirited” is code for. Sometimes people decide to say it out loud.

Talkative children and those that speak at a louder, more enthusiastic volume are not bad children. They should be reminded to use their inside voice and take a break if they need to calm down. But when it comes to general volume and enthusiasm some kids genuinely cannot help it. It’s who they are. There’s a difference between being spirited and being rude or getting into trouble. I’m sorry your mousy introverted self is annoyed by this truth and can’t see the difference but get over it. Don’t we teach our own children to accept people for the differences?

[Anonymous]

There’s a boy in our neighborhood I find somewhat annoying. He’s extremely extroverted, loud, always goofing off and coming up with silly stories etc...he’s definitely “that” kid. Even then, I would never in 100 million years say anything negative about him to any of the other moms in our social circle. In fact even though he’s a little bit too much personality for me, I recognize the fact that his creativity and fearlessness around people will do him well later in life and he will probably do well in college and have a great career. His mother is lovely and frankly there’s no parenting this big personality out of the kid. It’s just who he is.

I guess my larger point is just because a child gets on your nerves doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with them. It’s a clash of personalities. And you should never be gossiping about children with other parents. It’s mean girls all grown up. How is this so hard for others in this thread to understand?

[Anonymous]

If anything, this thread indicates that there are plenty of people more than happy to hang out with loud, spirited children, so there’s not much reason for the OP to feel too put out. Just find your people like the rest of us have to do—even the mousy introverts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My god. This thread has gotten so off the rails.

It’s also obvious how some people on here are self projecting their own experiences who have “that child” and overreacting and telling OP to do crazy things....

Yes, lots of snowflake moms who relate to OP. Parents who don't take responsibility for their children's behavior are the worst. They'll need to stock up on participation trophies.

Pot meet kettle. Amazing that a spirited child would bother a woman so much that the next week she feels the need to point it out again in a group text with other fellow mothers.

We all know what “spirited” is code for. Sometimes people decide to say it out loud.

Talkative children and those that speak at a louder, more enthusiastic volume are not bad children. They should be reminded to use their inside voice and take a break if they need to calm down. But when it comes to general volume and enthusiasm some kids genuinely cannot help it. It’s who they are. There’s a difference between being spirited and being rude or getting into trouble. I’m sorry your mousy introverted self is annoyed by this truth and can’t see the difference but get over it. Don’t we teach our own children to accept people for the differences?

Sounds like OP is not doing this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My god. This thread has gotten so off the rails.

It’s also obvious how some people on here are self projecting their own experiences who have “that child” and overreacting and telling OP to do crazy things....

Yes, lots of snowflake moms who relate to OP. Parents who don't take responsibility for their children's behavior are the worst. They'll need to stock up on participation trophies.

Pot meet kettle. Amazing that a spirited child would bother a woman so much that the next week she feels the need to point it out again in a group text with other fellow mothers.

We all know what “spirited” is code for. Sometimes people decide to say it out loud.

Talkative children and those that speak at a louder, more enthusiastic volume are not bad children. They should be reminded to use their inside voice and take a break if they need to calm down. But when it comes to general volume and enthusiasm some kids genuinely cannot help it. It’s who they are. There’s a difference between being spirited and being rude or getting into trouble. I’m sorry your mousy introverted self is annoyed by this truth and can’t see the difference but get over it. Don’t we teach our own children to accept people for the differences?

Sounds like OP is not doing this.

You don’t know whether she is or not. Even having to correct the child a couple times per play date is enough fuel for gossip.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My god. This thread has gotten so off the rails.

It’s also obvious how some people on here are self projecting their own experiences who have “that child” and overreacting and telling OP to do crazy things....

Yes, lots of snowflake moms who relate to OP. Parents who don't take responsibility for their children's behavior are the worst. They'll need to stock up on participation trophies.

Pot meet kettle. Amazing that a spirited child would bother a woman so much that the next week she feels the need to point it out again in a group text with other fellow mothers.

We all know what “spirited” is code for. Sometimes people decide to say it out loud.

Talkative children and those that speak at a louder, more enthusiastic volume are not bad children. They should be reminded to use their inside voice and take a break if they need to calm down. But when it comes to general volume and enthusiasm some kids genuinely cannot help it. It’s who they are. There’s a difference between being spirited and being rude or getting into trouble. I’m sorry your mousy introverted self is annoyed by this truth and can’t see the difference but get over it. Don’t we teach our own children to accept people for the differences?

Sounds like OP is not doing this.

Yes this sounds like a parenting problem not a kid problem. I don’t know any moms who’d be unsympathetic so long as a parent is doing his/her best. We had to stop socializing with a family whose kid would literally destroy our home when he came over. Sweet NT kid but only child who was never taught consequences. The parents thought he was adorable no matter what havoc he wrought. We all know parents like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My god. This thread has gotten so off the rails.

It’s also obvious how some people on here are self projecting their own experiences who have “that child” and overreacting and telling OP to do crazy things....

Yes, lots of snowflake moms who relate to OP. Parents who don't take responsibility for their children's behavior are the worst. They'll need to stock up on participation trophies.

Pot meet kettle. Amazing that a spirited child would bother a woman so much that the next week she feels the need to point it out again in a group text with other fellow mothers.

Stop describing loud as spirited. Clearly this child is more than just loud. He’s unreasonably loud. Which is why the texted comment made sense even if it was mean.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My god. This thread has gotten so off the rails.

It’s also obvious how some people on here are self projecting their own experiences who have “that child” and overreacting and telling OP to do crazy things....

Yes, lots of snowflake moms who relate to OP. Parents who don't take responsibility for their children's behavior are the worst. They'll need to stock up on participation trophies.

Pot meet kettle. Amazing that a spirited child would bother a woman so much that the next week she feels the need to point it out again in a group text with other fellow mothers.

We all know what “spirited” is code for. Sometimes people decide to say it out loud.

Talkative children and those that speak at a louder, more enthusiastic volume are not bad children. They should be reminded to use their inside voice and take a break if they need to calm down. But when it comes to general volume and enthusiasm some kids genuinely cannot help it. It’s who they are. There’s a difference between being spirited and being rude or getting into trouble. I’m sorry your mousy introverted self is annoyed by this truth and can’t see the difference but get over it. Don’t we teach our own children to accept people for the differences?

Sounds like OP is not doing this.

Yes this sounds like a parenting problem not a kid problem. I don’t know any moms who’d be unsympathetic so long as a parent is doing his/her best. We had to stop socializing with a family whose kid would literally destroy our home when he came over. Sweet NT kid but only child who was never taught consequences. The parents thought he was adorable no matter what havoc he wrought. We all know parents like that.

OMG me too. Multiple families have stopped having them over because the mom giggles and says #boymom as the kids decimate the host's home. I think we can all have compassion for all kinds of kids, but it is the parent's role to enforce some basic manners.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My god. This thread has gotten so off the rails.

It’s also obvious how some people on here are self projecting their own experiences who have “that child” and overreacting and telling OP to do crazy things....

Yes, lots of snowflake moms who relate to OP. Parents who don't take responsibility for their children's behavior are the worst. They'll need to stock up on participation trophies.

Pot meet kettle. Amazing that a spirited child would bother a woman so much that the next week she feels the need to point it out again in a group text with other fellow mothers.

We all know what “spirited” is code for. Sometimes people decide to say it out loud.

Talkative children and those that speak at a louder, more enthusiastic volume are not bad children. They should be reminded to use their inside voice and take a break if they need to calm down. But when it comes to general volume and enthusiasm some kids genuinely cannot help it. It’s who they are. There’s a difference between being spirited and being rude or getting into trouble. I’m sorry your mousy introverted self is annoyed by this truth and can’t see the difference but get over it. Don’t we teach our own children to accept people for the differences?

Sounds like OP is not doing this.

Yes this sounds like a parenting problem not a kid problem. I don’t know any moms who’d be unsympathetic so long as a parent is doing his/her best. We had to stop socializing with a family whose kid would literally destroy our home when he came over. Sweet NT kid but only child who was never taught consequences. The parents thought he was adorable no matter what havoc he wrought. We all know parents like that.

We had a situation a little like this, with friends’ kid who was prone to tantrums and would destroy everything in sight when he got upset. I don’t know for sure whether he is NT but anyway his parents worked SO HARD to socialize him, got him OT etc. We just think they are amazing parents, and now he is lovely to be around. Parents need to do the work and be honest with themselves about their kids’ behavior. Other parents should be sympathetic and supportive, but that gets challenging when disruptive behavior is consistently overlooked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My god. This thread has gotten so off the rails.

It’s also obvious how some people on here are self projecting their own experiences who have “that child” and overreacting and telling OP to do crazy things....

Yes, lots of snowflake moms who relate to OP. Parents who don't take responsibility for their children's behavior are the worst. They'll need to stock up on participation trophies.

Pot meet kettle. Amazing that a spirited child would bother a woman so much that the next week she feels the need to point it out again in a group text with other fellow mothers.

Stop describing loud as spirited. Clearly this child is more than just loud. He’s unreasonably loud. Which is why the texted comment made sense even if it was mean.

+1 and this is why mean mom didn’t apologize, because it’s true and she’s sick of it. It’s also why the other moms didn’t defend OP’s kid in the text. Even if they felt it was mean, they couldn’t dispute it. If I were OP, I’d worry more about parenting my kid and less about mean mom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My god. This thread has gotten so off the rails.

It’s also obvious how some people on here are self projecting their own experiences who have “that child” and overreacting and telling OP to do crazy things....

Yes, lots of snowflake moms who relate to OP. Parents who don't take responsibility for their children's behavior are the worst. They'll need to stock up on participation trophies.

NP. I disagree. I have teenagers now and have been able to see the otherside of these "loud and wild boys". The loudest and most energetic boy was the star athlete at our high school. He received a huge athletic scholarship and is doing well in his first year of college. Still there were a few moms who would talk crap about him at every football game, wrestling tournament, and lacrosse game. Yes he was loud and energetic, but his parents helped him focus that into healthy outlets. Their annoyance quickly turned to jealousy. The only ones who didn't grow up were the moms.

I'm the mom of teens who posted earlier and I have seen this too. That kid I talked about who was objectively difficult, not just loud, but jumping on the furniture, drawing on walls, literally bouncing off walls etc.? That kid is going to be a successful entrepreneur. He is already founding companies and he's just a teenager. He's starting to soar, and I am so glad that we were kind to him rather than being nasty gossips. I would rather contribute to making the world better than tearing down children, personally.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing you say is going to make her feel bad. Your kid is a wild child, most likely everyone in that text feels the same way.

This.

What a bunch of immature responses. Aggressive or passive aggressive. Be classy. Ignore. Don’t show up. Work on your kids behavior. As a PP said I too have high expectations and my kid has ADHD.

SAD DCUM. 31 pages. Mean girl behavior. Grow up, evolve some. Leave this pettiness behind. It’s not just enough to do some yoga and meditation. Let some of that good stuff impact other areas of your life.

I agree that probably the whole group feels this way which is why the woman felt comfortable enough to group text. It has been brought up before and/or is common knowledge. They like you, they tolerate your kid, and they invited you. Work on his behavior. Show up or don't, but a mean text back isn't the best way to handle this.

I agree with this. The casual way she said it means it’s been said many times. It would hurt my feelings OP. who is probably long gone.