Was accidentally on a group text...

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Anonymous wrote:My take is that the rude text lady is an alcoholic. Kids give her a headache when she's attending Larlo's game with a hangover. She has no filter. She takes no responsibility for her bad behavior.

Forget her, OP. She's a loser.

+1 - The multiple casual wine references are the comments of someone who is at least abusing alcohol to "get through" motherhood. So common (and I have been there... that's why it's so easy to see) and not someone you should take seriously. She is probably struggling with all kinds of stuff. Doesn't make it okay, obviously, but I hope you can forget this and move on.

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Anonymous wrote:“Bring me some to go please!”

I strongly disagree with those suggesting OP send a whimsy and lighthearted joke back. “I’ll bring the Advil if you bring the wine!” No. Hell no. This is not a conversation where the woman and OP are mutually airing their parenting grievances. The woman was talking shit about her son, got caught, and it’s quite obvious he’s been the topic of their conversation before. I can’t f-k’ing believe PP’s suggesting she should throw her own child under the bus so that she can continue socializing with these women. No one is that desperate. She needs to call them out and never speak to them again. Our children count on us to love and accept and protect them. Not to use them as the butt of jokes to keep under the good graces of an alcoholic queen bee. Unbelievable.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s a boy in our neighborhood I find somewhat annoying. He’s extremely extroverted, loud, always goofing off and coming up with silly stories etc...he’s definitely “that” kid. Even then, I would never in 100 million years say anything negative about him to any of the other moms in our social circle. In fact even though he’s a little bit too much personality for me, I recognize the fact that his creativity and fearlessness around people will do him well later in life and he will probably do well in college and have a great career. His mother is lovely and frankly there’s no parenting this big personality out of the kid. It’s just who he is.

I guess my larger point is just because a child gets on your nerves doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with them. It’s a clash of personalities. And you should never be gossiping about children with other parents. It’s mean girls all grown up. How is this so hard for others in this thread to understand?

Or he will continue to be obnoxious and off-putting to people and be perfectly average.

Look, the mom was rude. I'd say something to her. I'd also take it as maybe a pause moment to evaluate if maybe I need to reign my kid in a bit more.

And while loud chatty kids aren't bad lets not be silly and start the narrative that they're all destined to be super stars.

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+2 finally a sensible, balanced comment.

I didn’t get the impression that OP’s kid is “chatty”. I’m sure she would have clarified if that was the case. I was thinking obnoxiously loud, shouting, getting into things, running around when it’s not appropriate, being rough with toys and other kids, etc.

Chatty is something else entirely.

I also think of out of control screaming. I mentioned this thread to a friend who once told me that her brother was so loud that the police came because someone told them a child was being abused. They were just wrestling.

Yeah screaming is worse than anything else.

I'd definitely need Advil and wine for that.

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Are all you people screaming “alcoholic!” this literal in real life? Using a wine emoji does not make one an alcoholic.

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OK, I've lost track of this thread too, and am not ready pages 10-34 (I stopped soon after the OP update, and just now read 35-37). So I've got the gist.

But what I really want to know is: What is the STRESSED WINE emoji?

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Anonymous wrote:Are all you people screaming “alcoholic!” this literal in real life? Using a wine emoji does not make one an alcoholic.

Pretty sure you answered your own question.

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This thread is making me sad.

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Anonymous wrote:My god. This thread has gotten so off the rails.

It’s also obvious how some people on here are self projecting their own experiences who have “that child” and overreacting and telling OP to do crazy things....

Yes, lots of snowflake moms who relate to OP. Parents who don't take responsibility for their children's behavior are the worst. They'll need to stock up on participation trophies.

NP. I disagree. I have teenagers now and have been able to see the otherside of these "loud and wild boys". The loudest and most energetic boy was the star athlete at our high school. He received a huge athletic scholarship and is doing well in his first year of college. Still there were a few moms who would talk crap about him at every football game, wrestling tournament, and lacrosse game. Yes he was loud and energetic, but his parents helped him focus that into healthy outlets. Their annoyance quickly turned to jealousy. The only ones who didn't grow up were the moms.

I'm the mom of teens who posted earlier and I have seen this too. That kid I talked about who was objectively difficult, not just loud, but jumping on the furniture, drawing on walls, literally bouncing off walls etc.? That kid is going to be a successful entrepreneur. He is already founding companies and he's just a teenager. He's starting to soar, and I am so glad that we were kind to him rather than being nasty gossips. I would rather contribute to making the world better than tearing down children, personally.

I guarantee you that when this "successful entrepreneur" is going to the bank to ask for money, he knows to use his inside voice and say please and thank you and shut up when it's time to shut up. I guarantee you that your D1 athletes who were "loud", know to shut up in front of the coach and use their inside voice with a professor - particularly if they want something. Don't tell me they can't help themselves. They can and they do when they want to, or realize the other person is in the position of authority vs. them. For whatever reason, if they are not doing it with you, they don't perceive you as authority, or don't think that there's anything you can do to them.

Huh. You don't understand children are not adults. How strange and sad.

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Anonymous wrote:“Bring me some to go please!”

I strongly disagree with those suggesting OP send a whimsy and lighthearted joke back. “I’ll bring the Advil if you bring the wine!” No. Hell no. This is not a conversation where the woman and OP are mutually airing their parenting grievances. The woman was talking shit about her son, got caught, and it’s quite obvious he’s been the topic of their conversation before. I can’t f-k’ing believe PP’s suggesting she should throw her own child under the bus so that she can continue socializing with these women. No one is that desperate. She needs to call them out and never speak to them again. Our children count on us to love and accept and protect them. Not to use them as the butt of jokes to keep under the good graces of an alcoholic queen bee. Unbelievable.

The PPs defending the friends are the alcoholic queen bees themselves. They feel seen by this thread and it upsets them.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is making me sad.

Yeah, the number of nasty alcoholic women who think gossiping about kids is totally fine is really sad. Gosh, I am glad this isn't the dynamic in my friend group.

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Anonymous wrote:It was a rude and inappropriate text, but it says that they talk about you when you aren’t there and other people agree with her. Personally, I’d probably use it as constructive feedback. Maybe there are activities that just aren’t suited to your child. And maybe there are things you could be doing to keep the peace a bit more for others. I’ve never seen a comment like that so I’m guessing the behavior would be pretty hard to handle for people to be writing stuff like that. I wouldn’t want my kids excluded as they get older.

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Anonymous wrote:It was a rude and inappropriate text, but it says that they talk about you when you aren’t there and other people agree with her. Personally, I’d probably use it as constructive feedback. Maybe there are activities that just aren’t suited to your child. And maybe there are things you could be doing to keep the peace a bit more for others. I’ve never seen a comment like that so I’m guessing the behavior would be pretty hard to handle for people to be writing stuff like that. I wouldn’t want my kids excluded as they get older.

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Your backtalkers were just more slick, that is all

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is making me sad.

Yeah, the number of nasty alcoholic women who think gossiping about kids is totally fine is really sad. Gosh, I am glad this isn't the dynamic in my friend group.

+ one million

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Anonymous wrote:“Bring me some to go please!”

I strongly disagree with those suggesting OP send a whimsy and lighthearted joke back. “I’ll bring the Advil if you bring the wine!” No. Hell no. This is not a conversation where the woman and OP are mutually airing their parenting grievances. The woman was talking shit about her son, got caught, and it’s quite obvious he’s been the topic of their conversation before. I can’t f-k’ing believe PP’s suggesting she should throw her own child under the bus so that she can continue socializing with these women. No one is that desperate. She needs to call them out and never speak to them again. Our children count on us to love and accept and protect them. Not to use them as the butt of jokes to keep under the good graces of an alcoholic queen bee. Unbelievable.

I doubt anyone will miss OP or her demon child.

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Anonymous wrote:You handled it well OP. I hope that when things start to go back to normal you can branch out to other friend groups.

I was in a group where I got the vibe they didn't like my loud energitic kid. (And I took the time to pull him aside when he was acting up, we talked about it at home, we read books that I thought might help about friendship...I put in the work). This week was his birthday, and more recent friends all replied sincerely on social media "I love that kid" "such good energy" "love his spirit"... It may take time, but you will find your people.

I needed to hear this today, thanks.