demoralized in MCPS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Tenure has become 3 years of being a yes man and STFU about the issues of grade inflation, violence, bullying, and disrespect in the profession. When you open your mouth to try to do your job you will be a target of harrassment and will never get tenure. Isn't it ironic don't u think.

https://youtu.be/A6ajoHrYe_M

Heres one. It is of students bullying a teacher and filming it. The Sub does not report it. Why??? Probably because reporting will give you more problems then you started with. Why didn't she call security, more problems. Now do you understand the plight? The unions admit there is a big problem with students and admin bullying teacher. It is well documented and on the record. It is well documented (such as here) that admin don't want to address it. So when I hear this poster say blah blah blah you're not even tenured. I say f off you industry scab and you are a waste of space and you should quit and make room for passionate educators.

THat's a cinch compared to any private-sector job. Teachers are so lucky.

NP. Right. That's why MCPS currently has 168 unfilled teaching positions as of today, one week into the 2nd quarter. Because teachers are so lucky, and their job is a cinch. Such a cinch that they literally can't pay anyone to do it. Many of those jobs have been posted since the start of the year and there's no even marginally qualified applicants to fill them, 3 months later. So lucky!

A job being a great job does not mean there are limitless qualified applicants. MCPS is being picky and it’s a good thing because it is a long process to fire people who should not be in the classroom.

lol! Picky?

They were holding "walk ins" where people would drop off their resumes! This system is a hot mess. Even in a "good" school, the teaching is mediocre at best b/c people are too damn tired to keep up with the administrative crap thrown their way.

168 unfilled teaching positions? wow! I had no idea. I'm only PT now - told my husband I'm not even sure I can make it through the year! Never again would I take on a full load- not in my content area.

Autonomy is dead. The profession is dead. Sadly, the new ones entering - if they stay - don't get it b/c they have never tasted the freedom we once had.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tenure has become 3 years of being a yes man and STFU about the issues of grade inflation, violence, bullying, and disrespect in the profession. When you open your mouth to try to do your job you will be a target of harrassment and will never get tenure. Isn't it ironic don't u think.

https://youtu.be/A6ajoHrYe_M

Heres one. It is of students bullying a teacher and filming it. The Sub does not report it. Why??? Probably because reporting will give you more problems then you started with. Why didn't she call security, more problems. Now do you understand the plight? The unions admit there is a big problem with students and admin bullying teacher. It is well documented and on the record. It is well documented (such as here) that admin don't want to address it. So when I hear this poster say blah blah blah you're not even tenured. I say f off you industry scab and you are a waste of space and you should quit and make room for passionate educators.

THat's a cinch compared to any private-sector job. Teachers are so lucky.

NP. Right. That's why MCPS currently has 168 unfilled teaching positions as of today, one week into the 2nd quarter. Because teachers are so lucky, and their job is a cinch. Such a cinch that they literally can't pay anyone to do it. Many of those jobs have been posted since the start of the year and there's no even marginally qualified applicants to fill them, 3 months later. So lucky!

A job being a great job does not mean there are limitless qualified applicants. MCPS is being picky and it’s a good thing because it is a long process to fire people who should not be in the classroom.

lol! Picky?

They were holding "walk ins" where people would drop off their resumes! This system is a hot mess. Even in a "good" school, the teaching is mediocre at best b/c people are too damn tired to keep up with the administrative crap thrown their way.

168 unfilled teaching positions? wow! I had no idea. I'm only PT now - told my husband I'm not even sure I can make it through the year! Never again would I take on a full load- not in my content area.

Autonomy is dead. The profession is dead. Sadly, the new ones entering - if they stay - don't get it b/c they have never tasted the freedom we once had.

If they are taking anyone, how could they have 168 infilled positions?

[Anonymous]

That's actually even worse-- if they've lowered standards and STILL can't fill positions, then the problem is really bad.

[Anonymous]

https://thermtide.com/9320/popular/the-mcps-50-percent-inadequately-prepares-students-for-the-future/

Question for a lawyer. If teachers got their career progress stunted because they did not understand the nuanced inflation policies or had not received training on these nearly fraudulent acts, would they have a case in court? Expecting a teacher to adopt anti educational implements that lead to students and teachers throwing the rule book out the window and disregarding respect and logic seems clearly illegal and unethical on many levels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tenure has become 3 years of being a yes man and STFU about the issues of grade inflation, violence, bullying, and disrespect in the profession. When you open your mouth to try to do your job you will be a target of harrassment and will never get tenure. Isn't it ironic don't u think.

https://youtu.be/A6ajoHrYe_M

Heres one. It is of students bullying a teacher and filming it. The Sub does not report it. Why??? Probably because reporting will give you more problems then you started with. Why didn't she call security, more problems. Now do you understand the plight? The unions admit there is a big problem with students and admin bullying teacher. It is well documented and on the record. It is well documented (such as here) that admin don't want to address it. So when I hear this poster say blah blah blah you're not even tenured. I say f off you industry scab and you are a waste of space and you should quit and make room for passionate educators.

THat's a cinch compared to any private-sector job. Teachers are so lucky.

NP. Right. That's why MCPS currently has 168 unfilled teaching positions as of today, one week into the 2nd quarter. Because teachers are so lucky, and their job is a cinch. Such a cinch that they literally can't pay anyone to do it. Many of those jobs have been posted since the start of the year and there's no even marginally qualified applicants to fill them, 3 months later. So lucky!

A job being a great job does not mean there are limitless qualified applicants. MCPS is being picky and it’s a good thing because it is a long process to fire people who should not be in the classroom.

lol! Picky?

They were holding "walk ins" where people would drop off their resumes! This system is a hot mess. Even in a "good" school, the teaching is mediocre at best b/c people are too damn tired to keep up with the administrative crap thrown their way.

168 unfilled teaching positions? wow! I had no idea. I'm only PT now - told my husband I'm not even sure I can make it through the year! Never again would I take on a full load- not in my content area.

Autonomy is dead. The profession is dead. Sadly, the new ones entering - if they stay - don't get it b/c they have never tasted the freedom we once had.

If they are taking anyone, how could they have 168 infilled positions?

Because they aren't taking just anyone--they are filtering out the people who are ridiculously incompetent/unqualified or a possible safety hazard to the kids. But that's most of the applications. Maybe when some people graduate in December from education programs, there will be a surge in possible candidates, but I tend to doubt it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://thermtide.com/9320/popular/the-mcps-50-percent-inadequately-prepares-students-for-the-future/

Question for a lawyer. If teachers got their career progress stunted because they did not understand the nuanced inflation policies or had not received training on these nearly fraudulent acts, would they have a case in court? Expecting a teacher to adopt anti educational implements that lead to students and teachers throwing the rule book out the window and disregarding respect and logic seems clearly illegal and unethical on many levels.

Why exactly did MCPS let you go before tenure?

Why won’t other public schools systems or privates take you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://thermtide.com/9320/popular/the-mcps-50-percent-inadequately-prepares-students-for-the-future/

Question for a lawyer. If teachers got their career progress stunted because they did not understand the nuanced inflation policies or had not received training on these nearly fraudulent acts, would they have a case in court? Expecting a teacher to adopt anti educational implements that lead to students and teachers throwing the rule book out the window and disregarding respect and logic seems clearly illegal and unethical on many levels.

Why exactly did MCPS let you go before tenure?

Why won’t other public schools systems or privates take you?

That's not what I inferred from the post -- I inferred that they want to rebel and want to know if they have a legal leg to stand on if there's blowback.

[Anonymous]

Hello??? The fact that a person has no tenure means that they can be let go for no reason at all. There is no protection for standing up for what is right that is why most fall I line at the Beck and call of admin regardless of morality. It's called being a good fit. If you question inflation, violence, bullying, consequences etc you are obviously not a good fit. Why do you think education can't hold on to it's graduates anymore who are masters at their field. Good people choose morality over power and that is not a good fit for the folks at the top. The union loves money but are apathetic and don't prefer to protect and serve. Basically the system is corrupt. All the data points to these facts from attrition, to downward sat data, to inflated grades v standardized test comparison, to teacher quitting in masse, etc, etc etc.

What about the cold hard facts is hard to understand? Occam's Razor baby- the simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

[Anonymous]

Actually they are just taking anyone because theres not much of a pool of candidates left due to the demoralization.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mcps-expected-to-loosen-requirements-for-substitute-teachers/

The system has gone away from high standards to just lowering the bar somemore to look good, admin gets bonuses, and can fire at will after they bully newbies to fraud and inflate grades (problemsolved). Except it's bs and the union plays along. It's a game to some people. My advice is if you are a stressed teacher going through this don't play along. You might be gone either way after the pressure to do unethical things.

[Anonymous]

Many teachers are turning into morbidly obese monsters all to strive to be just like the overpaid King blob man himself Jack S. Disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actually they are just taking anyone because theres not much of a pool of candidates left due to the demoralization.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mcps-expected-to-loosen-requirements-for-substitute-teachers/

The system has gone away from high standards to just lowering the bar somemore to look good, admin gets bonuses, and can fire at will after they bully newbies to fraud and inflate grades (problemsolved). Except it's bs and the union plays along. It's a game to some people. My advice is if you are a stressed teacher going through this don't play along. You might be gone either way after the pressure to do unethical things.

Substitute teachers are not the same as certified classroom teachers. The standard for substitutes was lowered, but is still higher than most neighboring districts. The standards for certified teachers have actually increased with the result that fewer weak teachers are making it through the tenure process. Of course, this has caused some anger among novice teachers who didn’t make the cut.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many teachers are turning into morbidly obese monsters all to strive to be just like the overpaid King blob man himself Jack S. Disgusting.

I see 14:30 started drinking earlier than usual this Sunday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actually they are just taking anyone because theres not much of a pool of candidates left due to the demoralization.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mcps-expected-to-loosen-requirements-for-substitute-teachers/

The system has gone away from high standards to just lowering the bar somemore to look good, admin gets bonuses, and can fire at will after they bully newbies to fraud and inflate grades (problemsolved). Except it's bs and the union plays along. It's a game to some people. My advice is if you are a stressed teacher going through this don't play along. You might be gone either way after the pressure to do unethical things.

Yes, the system has lowered the bar, but not because of anything you mention. A substitute teacher gets paid 18$/hr. If you work an 8 hour a day shift as a substitute every day of the school year, you will only earn 25,920 dollars. TBH, most people with a college education can go out and find a job and make more than that. I tutor on a part time basis and can make that much if I work 15-20 hours a week. I'm more than qualified to substitute teach, but it isn't worth my time. There are many other part or full-time jobs a college-educated person can get that make much more money, especially now in an environment with 3.6% unemployment.

If you want more qualified people, you have to pay in some way -- salary, benefits, perks or good working conditions. Right now teaching doesn't have enough of those things to be competitive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually they are just taking anyone because theres not much of a pool of candidates left due to the demoralization.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mcps-expected-to-loosen-requirements-for-substitute-teachers/

The system has gone away from high standards to just lowering the bar somemore to look good, admin gets bonuses, and can fire at will after they bully newbies to fraud and inflate grades (problemsolved). Except it's bs and the union plays along. It's a game to some people. My advice is if you are a stressed teacher going through this don't play along. You might be gone either way after the pressure to do unethical things.

Yes, the system has lowered the bar, but not because of anything you mention. A substitute teacher gets paid 18$/hr. If you work an 8 hour a day shift as a substitute every day of the school year, you will only earn 25,920 dollars. TBH, most people with a college education can go out and find a job and make more than that. I tutor on a part time basis and can make that much if I work 15-20 hours a week. I'm more than qualified to substitute teach, but it isn't worth my time. There are many other part or full-time jobs a college-educated person can get that make much more money, especially now in an environment with 3.6% unemployment.

If you want more qualified people, you have to pay in some way -- salary, benefits, perks or good working conditions. Right now teaching doesn't have enough of those things to be competitive.

In this area, a good tutor earns $80-100/hour and can do so from his or her own home, plus not have to deal with discipline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually they are just taking anyone because theres not much of a pool of candidates left due to the demoralization.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mcps-expected-to-loosen-requirements-for-substitute-teachers/

The system has gone away from high standards to just lowering the bar somemore to look good, admin gets bonuses, and can fire at will after they bully newbies to fraud and inflate grades (problemsolved). Except it's bs and the union plays along. It's a game to some people. My advice is if you are a stressed teacher going through this don't play along. You might be gone either way after the pressure to do unethical things.

Substitute teachers are not the same as certified classroom teachers. The standard for substitutes was lowered, but is still higher than most neighboring districts. The standards for certified teachers have actually increased with the result that fewer weak teachers are making it through the tenure process. Of course, this has caused some anger among novice teachers who didn’t make the cut.

a few points:

Define not making the cut. Three different people can observe with three different outcomes - even WITH the supposedly stringent PGS guidelines in place.

Why doesn't MCPS share its numbers? We live in a neighboring county (both work in mcps), and the BOE lists names of those who retire, transfer, are promoted or who sever ties with the county. While listing names may be inefficient, CERTAINLY the county can share yearly stats.

Perhaps I'm missing something????

Finally, I've seen young teachers leave each year - good ones who can't stand the BS. No one should comment on the system unless s/he is part of this sick mess. no one