How long will the shutdown last?

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This article seems pretty hopeful. I’m starting to think there’s a chance this could end by Tuesday and we could get paid as normal. Thoughts?

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/06/reuters-america-up...g-u-s-government-shutdown.html


Sorry to break it to you, but this is about much more than Feds getting paid. It’s about national security for goodness sake!


You mean when TSA agents aren’t getting paid it’s a national security issue. I agree.


Let them call in sick or walk off the job. We can train enlisted military to run people through body scanners and metal detectors. NBD.


Cuz those military don't need to train for other things. Their really non-essential, just masquerading as essential.
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Anonymous wrote:No, we have regulations written by lifers who have no clue how damaging they are outside of their air conditioned and heated buildings. Federal bureaucrats are people in ivory towers who are NOT necessarily SMEs and they are beholden to a pay check and an agenda set forth by management in those federal departments. Those managers do not change from administration to administration. You understand what I'm telling you? A few at the top change and that's about it. Thus we get 3000 page bills that have all sorts of stuff packed (hidden) in them and referring to other documents that are virually impossible to trace. The federal register is far too big and far to damaging to everyday people.

We were never meant to be RULED by career politicians and bureaucrats. They were supposed to come to DC a couple of months out of the year and then go back home FFS. This federal leviathan is like a kingdom on steroids and has been since FDR.


Dear idiot,

Those 3000 page bills come Congress, not agencies. Congress is the elected body that passes legislation in the United States. You should watch that Schoolhouse Rock video about how a bill becomes a law.

Love,

Non-idiot


Shit. They don't even read it. You're telling me they write it? No.

Thousands of UNELECTED bureaucrats at federal agencies churn out blather all day. They get paid by the number of trees they kill.


Sorry you got caught violating a federal regulation (or something), but there is much, much more to the system than you seem to understand. Go to law school if you want to know more.
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We have many Reservists and Guardsmen who could cover their duties until the shutdown ends and new employees can be hired. There is no reason for the American traveling public to be inconvenienced.
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We have many Reservists and Guardsmen who could cover their duties until the shutdown ends and new employees can be hired. There is no reason for the American traveling public to be inconvenienced.


So you would inconvenience the private employers of these Reservists and Guardsmen and let them take the financial hit for this?
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^ Not sure it's legal to call out the Guard for a shutdown that is of the government's own making. Doesn't the government then have to put those people on full-time pay? Wouldn't that require that the government pass a bill to pay them?
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OMG- I just can’t with the stupid!
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We have many Reservists and Guardsmen who could cover their duties until the shutdown ends and new employees can be hired. There is no reason for the American traveling public to be inconvenienced.


So you would inconvenience the private employers of these Reservists and Guardsmen and let them take the financial hit for this?


If necessary for National Security? Yes, absolutely. That’s the deal.
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We have many Reservists and Guardsmen who could cover their duties until the shutdown ends and new employees can be hired. There is no reason for the American traveling public to be inconvenienced.


How about if Congress just ends the shutdown? Wouldn't that be a whole lot easier?
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I just read that the pilots' association has called for the TSA and air traffic controllers to be paid. And if you think you can just train some reservists to do these jobs overnight, you are sorely mistaken.

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I just read that the pilots' association has called for the TSA and air traffic controllers to be paid. And if you think you can just train some reservists to do these jobs overnight, you are sorely mistaken.



Absolutely you can. The Air Force has its own controllers, you know. Look up the air traffic control strike of the 1980s and see how that worked out.
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We have many Reservists and Guardsmen who could cover their duties until the shutdown ends and new employees can be hired. There is no reason for the American traveling public to be inconvenienced.


Hiring people is not cheap and we might need to import people to do these jobs given the low unemployment situation.
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We have many Reservists and Guardsmen who could cover their duties until the shutdown ends and new employees can be hired. There is no reason for the American traveling public to be inconvenienced.


How about if Congress just ends the shutdown? Wouldn't that be a whole lot easier?


100% agreed. Congress should approve the money for the wall so this whole sad saga can end.
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We have many Reservists and Guardsmen who could cover their duties until the shutdown ends and new employees can be hired. There is no reason for the American traveling public to be inconvenienced.


How about if Congress just ends the shutdown? Wouldn't that be a whole lot easier?


Trump and McConnell.

The House passed the same bill the Senate passed unanimously. Everyone but Trump and McConnell don't want the shutdown.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
We have many Reservists and Guardsmen who could cover their duties until the shutdown ends and new employees can be hired. There is no reason for the American traveling public to be inconvenienced.


How about if Congress just ends the shutdown? Wouldn't that be a whole lot easier?


100% agreed. Congress should approve the money for the wall so this whole sad saga can end.


What are the details of the $5.6 Billion you want to blindly approve? Given that Trump only spent 6% of the $1.6B authorized last year, why not figure out spending the rest of that before authorizing more?
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