Why did Kamala lose ?

[Anonymous]

Are any Democrats claiming that the election was rigged or stolen, as Republicans surely would be if Trump had lost?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1. inauthentic and disingenuous in every respect
2. suggested price controls as a means to control inflation - to any thinking voter, that is disqualifying
3. she is/was the VP of a President with extremely low approval ratings
4. couldn't identify a single issue she would have handled differently than Biden
5. never articulated an original thought or idea during her entire political career
6. illegal immigration is a major threat the the country, and she is perceived to have encouraged it for political ends
7. her voting record as a senator was extreme left, comparable to Bernie Sanders, and the US is a right of center nation
8. she chose an awful VP, who is hard left, a pathological liar, and bumbling
9. passed on a very good VP option, who would have helped her carry PA, apparently due to anti-semitism
10. she knew about Biden's failing mental ability, but covered it up, and continues to do so today
11. her husband is a low life who had sex with the nanny, and slapped an ex girlfriend
12. she cannot talk intelligently about issues, and ducked questions to the point where it was both comical and infuriating
13. she lied about her past, like working at McDonalds, growing up "middle class," etc., which fed into her inauthenticity problem
14. former staff say that she is a mean, nasty, abusive human being
15. she supported radical causes in 2020, such as defunding the police and posted bail for rioters
16. overplayed the race and gender cards, patronizing and condescending to minorities
17. she became a candidate with no primary process, even after she tanked in the 2019 primaries without winning any votes
18. overplayed the name calling against Trump - racist, rapist, Nazi, etc. she laid it on so thick that nobody listened.
19. the lawfare strategy backfired - it created sympathy for Trump and resentment toward Dems for abusing power
20. she is a lightweight who doesn't work hard and can't/won't educate herself about foreign and domestic policy
20. I could go on, but you get the point

She was the worst Presidential candidate in history. Popular vote of 47% is extremely low in the 50/50 world in which we live, and every one of her voters were either Trump haters, or lifetime knee-jerk democrats. A random unknown person could have been put on the ballot and gotten 47% or more of the popular vote. I don't think that Harris "won" a single vote based on anything she brought to the table.

Your analysis is spot-on.

Furthermore, having to be excited for a candidate only because she is a woman and a minority is insulting to voters.

[Anonymous]

The Dems are so smart Pennsylvania is now a swing state.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Because Harris is fake, and people see through her disingenuousness

Democrat here. This was it for me. She’s not authentic at all, she didn’t stand for anything. Her entire campaign was a script, same answers for everything. And would get super nervous when she got any pushback from an interview. I can’t explain it, but she didn’t feel like a real person or someone I could relate with.

At least I could relate to grandpa Joe and him being a nice decent family man, who’s kids had issues, like your average American family.

Kamala’s entire existence just felt too…phony. It also didn’t help her bragging about aligning with the Cheney’s, of all people. What were they thinking?!

As if Trump is "authentic?" The guy has been a con man and a grifter his whole life.

I wish the post and your response could be pinned.

The problem is actually your response. If someone says they want a better candidate with better policies, your instinct to scream back that the other party (that PP is not a member of) is worse (when PP did not make a Trump-supportive comment).

Do you truly not see the problem with this kind of pattern of deflection? It’s very representative of how we pretend we maintain the big tent as Democratic voters.

The biggest problem Dems have are not the candidates but their inability to listen. So many would be Democrats left the party after they spent four years being called Russian trolls whenever they brought up concerns or voiced that they thought Biden was not senile or well. Dems claimed he was “sharp as a tack”, and all the video clips were “fake Russian news/deep fakes”.

I've never been listened to by any Republican on DCUM and I've been posting here for almost 10 years. Never.

You usually just ignore me and repost the same dumb shit that I just spent time debunking with citations or pointing out the logical fallacy or whatever other flaw.

Don't say "Dems don't listen" without realizing that you don't listen.

Were you called Vlad or stupid? I bet not.

The condescension and vicious rancor is often from the left. The sitting president said Trump should be put in the bullseye hours before he was shot. He said he wanted to take Trump behind the gym and beat him up, he called Trump supporters garbage, Hillary called half the country baskets of deplorables. Let’s not forget Democrats call the Midwest flyover states. Republicans call it Americas heartland.

Words matter and the people hate Dems because they know they hate or look down on them. If you don’t like your countrymen or think they’re stupid or beyond repair, why do you want their votes? Democrats lack emotional maturity

Yes there are one or two incidents over the past decade you can point to but meanwhile Trump says these things every time he speaks and you give him a pass.

Trump repeatedly called us "horrible people" "scum" "absolute garbage" and so on and on and on and on and on - somehow the right wing feels like they are the only ones who've ever been insulted and offended and that they are the only ones entitled to be offended. Not to mention this bizarre idea that it's fine to ignore the insults your own leader hurls yet you want to decide who you vote on based on being offended at what some random stranger on DCUM is saying (and you don't even know if that person is in fact a Democrat or just some loser trying to mess with you and get a rise out of you).

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Anonymous wrote:I wasn’t surprised but give me your best analysis.

only 65% of us workers have college degrees.

the policies pushed by democrats are focused on the 35% and they have contempt for the working class.

1 - overwhelming immigration - legal and illegal -> lowers wages for US workers. good for elites and companies, bad for people
2 - inflation -> it hurt the 65% worse than the 35% who view it as bad but not a big deal.
3 - DEI and Trans -> anyone that has had to interact with DEI nonsense at large corporation knows this is a waste of money and time, do we really want gov paying for sex change operations
4 - H1XXB and OXXPT -> job outsourcing programs that Democrats expanded, really, the same party that claims they help US workers
5 - Harris -> poor candidate, just had nothing to offer.

Legal immigration pushes come from companies like Google and hurt a lot of US white collar workers, just very few people talk about it because nobody wants to cry for the poor unemployed computer science grad.

And 60+% college grads voted for Harris. Non college grads voted for Trump. So basically Trump got voted president by stupid people.

If you think your HVAC tech, mechanic, or anyone in the skilled trades is dumb I don't know what to say.

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Anonymous wrote:I wasn’t surprised but give me your best analysis.

only 65% of us workers have college degrees.

the policies pushed by democrats are focused on the 35% and they have contempt for the working class.

1 - overwhelming immigration - legal and illegal -> lowers wages for US workers. good for elites and companies, bad for people
2 - inflation -> it hurt the 65% worse than the 35% who view it as bad but not a big deal.
3 - DEI and Trans -> anyone that has had to interact with DEI nonsense at large corporation knows this is a waste of money and time, do we really want gov paying for sex change operations
4 - H1XXB and OXXPT -> job outsourcing programs that Democrats expanded, really, the same party that claims they help US workers
5 - Harris -> poor candidate, just had nothing to offer.

Legal immigration pushes come from companies like Google and hurt a lot of US white collar workers, just very few people talk about it because nobody wants to cry for the poor unemployed computer science grad.

And 60+% college grads voted for Harris. Non college grads voted for Trump. So basically Trump got voted president by stupid people.

Prime example of a condescending leftie

On behalf of all lefties, I want to apologize for condescending to you. It's just really hard when we are so much smarter.

[Anonymous]

Kamala is sitting at 66 million votes

Trump got 71 million votes (again)

But Joe got "81 million" - do people see how absurd that number is?

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Anonymous wrote:Depressed about result but at least this time I'm not surprised, these are some of the issues the independent people I know have said that are pulling them away from Democrats.

-lenient with illegal immigration
-tremendous impopularity of refugee cities whose budgets have been impacted by dealing with flood of migrants
-emphasis on wokeness, trans issues, DEI (all things that I care about but average person does not)
-perception that Trump will bring more blue collar jobs back home
-tremendous impopularity of Biden
-handling of Israel/Gaza war

+1. And Biden calling people “garbage” a week before the election didn’t help either (though I thought her response and distance to his comments was good).

Trump was calling Puerto Ricans garbage a week before the election, called for the suppression of the free press, and for Liz Cheneys execution all in the past week. Not sure why Dems are judged on a double standard. The question isn’t why Kamala lost - it’s why did trump win despite all of his disqualifying factors including counted felonies, staging a coup, being twice impeached for quid pro quo and trying to obstruct democracy, his general vileness and all the other corruption of his first term.

And I honestly have no idea. I am completely puzzled. Trump is a disaster of a candidate. My best guess is that voters just didn’t “like” Kamala for the same reasons they didn’t “like” Hillary- deeply rooted misogyny. The war in Gaza also likely fractured democratic support, not unlike Bernie bros in 2016.

1 million times this. How does an educated person ignored ALL of this and think he will do a "great job" at running our country while he also tanked his businesses 7 times.

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Anonymous wrote:Turns out the people don’t like inflation and mass illegal immigration.

Biden/Harris finally got a bipartisan plan and Trump told Republicana not to vote for it so he could win. Now he’ll take credit for it if it passes. If I were a democrat I would now not vote for it.

lol

Trump will shut down the border like he did last time. He won’t wait for bipartisan legislation. He will do what he wants whether it’s legal or not.

Isn’t that what should happen if we are being invaded?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kamala is sitting at 66 million votes

Trump got 71 million votes (again)

But Joe got "81 million" - do people see how absurd that number is?

People felt strongly about Joe vs. Donald.

No one really felt strongly about Kamala/Walz so clearly Donald’s voters won.

[Anonymous]

She lost through Democratic policies which don't have wide appeal, despite the media suggesting those policies are correct and popular. Economic policies which soak "someone else" through heavy taxation, promotion of irresponsibility (and increased taxes) by forgiving student loans freely taken out by people who are happy to not repay their legitimate debts, placement of unqualified people in government due only to their personal DEI/gender-related characteristics and not their professional competence, soft on crime policies which align with a narrative that criminality is not a matter of personal responsibility but due instead exclusively to external historical and environmental factors, support for "reparations" (more taxes, again) for some long-gone people (but not others who don't share the same racial group) in times of different social and political mores, and a belief that the role of government is to keep expanding, regulating, and limiting private activity so that market forces play a very limited role compared to government planning and government-desired outcomes (socialism/Marxism/communism), passive acceptance of illegal immigration and rewarding it with public benefits and eventual citizenship, promotion of biological males competing in sport as females, etc., etc.

These are not winning policy positions for more than half the electorate, apparently.

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Anonymous wrote:Depressed about result but at least this time I'm not surprised, these are some of the issues the independent people I know have said that are pulling them away from Democrats.

-lenient with illegal immigration
-tremendous impopularity of refugee cities whose budgets have been impacted by dealing with flood of migrants
-emphasis on wokeness, trans issues, DEI (all things that I care about but average person does not)
-perception that Trump will bring more blue collar jobs back home
-tremendous impopularity of Biden
-handling of Israel/Gaza war

+1. And Biden calling people “garbage” a week before the election didn’t help either (though I thought her response and distance to his comments was good).

Trump was calling Puerto Ricans garbage a week before the election, called for the suppression of the free press, and for Liz Cheneys execution all in the past week. Not sure why Dems are judged on a double standard. The question isn’t why Kamala lost - it’s why did trump win despite all of his disqualifying factors including counted felonies, staging a coup, being twice impeached for quid pro quo and trying to obstruct democracy, his general vileness and all the other corruption of his first term.

And I honestly have no idea. I am completely puzzled. Trump is a disaster of a candidate. My best guess is that voters just didn’t “like” Kamala for the same reasons they didn’t “like” Hillary- deeply rooted misogyny. The war in Gaza also likely fractured democratic support, not unlike Bernie bros in 2016.

1 million times this. How does an educated person ignored ALL of this and think he will do a "great job" at running our country while he also tanked his businesses 7 times.

+1 And everyone who worked for him during his first term left. I can't fathom how educated voters look at that and think that's a promising sign of effective leadership.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Dems are so smart Pennsylvania is now a swing state.

It's always been a swing state. If you drive through the middle of it, you can see why - it seems like every other home is abandoned. Just one crumbling structure after another. It's post-apocalyptic. I can see why people would rather vote for anything different, even something much worse.

[Anonymous]

I am not sure any current democrat could have won.
If you look at really a cross country, cross demographic decrease to the democrats candidates support they were doomed.

Their platform is just not popular, period.

Way too liberal for (obviously) most voting Americans. Unless they get with country’s more middle road they will lose in 2028 too. Does not matter who runs if they stick with same platform.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Ragin’ Cajun is always right.

1. It’s the economy, stupid
2. She had to be up by three points in each of the races. She wasn’t.

All the rest is window dressing. You don’t SHE answers a question straight? She’s not “likable”? She plays the race card? Have you seen her opponent? This would all not be an issue if food and housing prices were lower. It’s not due to a Democratic President that those things are the way they are.

The focus on “open borders” and “DEI” were also highly emphasized by outlets funded by foreign information efforts. They got people already feeling poor spun up on distracting issues. They got us pointing the finger at America’s problems at “others” who “took away our” something. Guns, jobs, safety, what have you. Don’t look at the big corporations record profits while they’re shifting jobs overseas and costs on you.

But at the end of the day, listen to Carville.

Always right? On Friday he was predicting Kamala would win.