The state of MCPS is atrocious

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Anonymous wrote:The current state of MCPS would actually be fine if it didn’t cost 3 billion plus a YEAR and much of it in things that don’t affect current classroom - defined (overly generous) pensions and (overly generous) healthcare, largely for their retirees. I think if this place offered the same (low) quality of school at 1/2 property tax DCUM wouldn’t like the ego hit but would be fine with it — because they would have more money for Larlo’s supplementation.

I hate how teachers and retired teachers insist on compensation and health insurance coverage. The nerve of 'em!

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It’s mostly admin and you know it.

It's mostly teachers and you know it. MCPS has:

13,994 professional (includes teachers) - 55.5%
9,741 supporting services - 38.6%
755 people in business operations/administrative - 3.0%
99 administrative - 0.4%

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/about/

That tells me nothing about how expenses are divided up. Please tell me you don’t teach.

That tells you who the employees are. When you're complaining about compensation, pensions, and health insurance, you're complaining about funding for people. Well, that's who the people are: 55.5% professional (including teachers), 38.6% supporting services, 3.0% business operations/administrative, 0.4% administrative.

I want to know who gets the bulk of the compensation funds. Your breakdown doesn’t tell me that.

This is basic stuff.

Of course it does. The bulk of the compensation funds goes to the bulk of the employees, which is the professional (including teachers) staff. Would you think the bulk of the compensation funds (assuming bulk = >50%) goes to 0.4% of the employees?

But you don't have to take my word for it! You can look at the MCPS operating budget tables. For positions, in dollars, for FY 2022 actual:

Professional (including teachers): $1,204,487,534 (69.8%)
Supporting services: $399,532,368 (23.2%)
Business/Operations Admin: $9,955,354 (0.6%)
Administrative: $111,473,903 (6.5%)
Total: $1,725,449,159

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/budget/fy2024/fy2024_summarybudget_final.pdf

That proves my point. Admin is 0.4% of MCPS employees and yet receives 6.5% of the compensation budget.

DP no it doesn't. You said "it's mostly admin and you know it". 6.5% is not "mostly" and of you got rid of all admin it would still be a drop in the bucket.

It’s still way more than proportionate.

And don’t think you can slap DP on a post and make me think it isn’t the person I’ve been talking to about this.

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Anonymous wrote:The current state of MCPS would actually be fine if it didn’t cost 3 billion plus a YEAR and much of it in things that don’t affect current classroom - defined (overly generous) pensions and (overly generous) healthcare, largely for their retirees. I think if this place offered the same (low) quality of school at 1/2 property tax DCUM wouldn’t like the ego hit but would be fine with it — because they would have more money for Larlo’s supplementation.

I hate how teachers and retired teachers insist on compensation and health insurance coverage. The nerve of 'em!

/s

It’s mostly admin and you know it.

It's mostly teachers and you know it. MCPS has:

13,994 professional (includes teachers) - 55.5%
9,741 supporting services - 38.6%
755 people in business operations/administrative - 3.0%
99 administrative - 0.4%

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/about/

That tells me nothing about how expenses are divided up. Please tell me you don’t teach.

That tells you who the employees are. When you're complaining about compensation, pensions, and health insurance, you're complaining about funding for people. Well, that's who the people are: 55.5% professional (including teachers), 38.6% supporting services, 3.0% business operations/administrative, 0.4% administrative.

I want to know who gets the bulk of the compensation funds. Your breakdown doesn’t tell me that.

This is basic stuff.

Of course it does. The bulk of the compensation funds goes to the bulk of the employees, which is the professional (including teachers) staff. Would you think the bulk of the compensation funds (assuming bulk = >50%) goes to 0.4% of the employees?

But you don't have to take my word for it! You can look at the MCPS operating budget tables. For positions, in dollars, for FY 2022 actual:

Professional (including teachers): $1,204,487,534 (69.8%)
Supporting services: $399,532,368 (23.2%)
Business/Operations Admin: $9,955,354 (0.6%)
Administrative: $111,473,903 (6.5%)
Total: $1,725,449,159

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/budget/fy2024/fy2024_summarybudget_final.pdf

That proves my point. Admin is 0.4% of MCPS employees and yet receives 6.5% of the compensation budget.

DP no it doesn't. You said "it's mostly admin and you know it". 6.5% is not "mostly" and of you got rid of all admin it would still be a drop in the bucket.

It’s still way more than proportionate.

And don’t think you can slap DP on a post and make me think it isn’t the person I’ve been talking to about this.

Lol, I appreciate the PP posting the budget numbers but that's not something I would ever take the time to do. Not my job to make you less ignorant.

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Anonymous wrote:The current state of MCPS would actually be fine if it didn’t cost 3 billion plus a YEAR and much of it in things that don’t affect current classroom - defined (overly generous) pensions and (overly generous) healthcare, largely for their retirees. I think if this place offered the same (low) quality of school at 1/2 property tax DCUM wouldn’t like the ego hit but would be fine with it — because they would have more money for Larlo’s supplementation.

I hate how teachers and retired teachers insist on compensation and health insurance coverage. The nerve of 'em!

/s

It’s mostly admin and you know it.

It's mostly teachers and you know it. MCPS has:

13,994 professional (includes teachers) - 55.5%
9,741 supporting services - 38.6%
755 people in business operations/administrative - 3.0%
99 administrative - 0.4%

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/about/

That tells me nothing about how expenses are divided up. Please tell me you don’t teach.

That tells you who the employees are. When you're complaining about compensation, pensions, and health insurance, you're complaining about funding for people. Well, that's who the people are: 55.5% professional (including teachers), 38.6% supporting services, 3.0% business operations/administrative, 0.4% administrative.

I want to know who gets the bulk of the compensation funds. Your breakdown doesn’t tell me that.

This is basic stuff.

Of course it does. The bulk of the compensation funds goes to the bulk of the employees, which is the professional (including teachers) staff. Would you think the bulk of the compensation funds (assuming bulk = >50%) goes to 0.4% of the employees?

But you don't have to take my word for it! You can look at the MCPS operating budget tables. For positions, in dollars, for FY 2022 actual:

Professional (including teachers): $1,204,487,534 (69.8%)
Supporting services: $399,532,368 (23.2%)
Business/Operations Admin: $9,955,354 (0.6%)
Administrative: $111,473,903 (6.5%)
Total: $1,725,449,159

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/budget/fy2024/fy2024_summarybudget_final.pdf

That proves my point. Admin is 0.4% of MCPS employees and yet receives 6.5% of the compensation budget.

DP no it doesn't. You said "it's mostly admin and you know it". 6.5% is not "mostly" and of you got rid of all admin it would still be a drop in the bucket.

It’s still way more than proportionate.

And don’t think you can slap DP on a post and make me think it isn’t the person I’ve been talking to about this.

Lol, I appreciate the PP posting the budget numbers but that's not something I would ever take the time to do. Not my job to make you less ignorant.

Ok?

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Anonymous wrote:The thing about everything being online, is that kids are not mature enough to regulate their computer usage. Elementary school and middle school kids are gaming and going on random websites instead of learning. Lots of distractions that having textbooks would sidetrack- at least until the kids get cell phones and are distracted that way.

-mcps educator

Elementary kids technically have textbooks. Benchmark (as problematic as it is)… they have magazines. There are Eureka workbooks for math…and also, both are online if need be. Pretty sure MCPS has this covered.

The problem is teachers don't use them.

Actually teachers in MCPS have to use them. Are parents here really this misinformed?

Not in the past few years. We follow what is going on.

Staff development teacher here. There’s not a single elementary school that wouldn’t use benchmark magazines or Eureka books. Been that way since 2020. Stop gaslighting this forum with your misinformation.

This is going to blow your mind, but half of the students in MCPS are not in elementary school. You are probably the same people saying that teachers aren't babysitters during the pandemic.
No shit, our teens don't need a sitter, they need a teacher or god forbid a textbook so parents can help with calculus and physics.

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Anonymous wrote:The current state of MCPS would actually be fine if it didn’t cost 3 billion plus a YEAR and much of it in things that don’t affect current classroom - defined (overly generous) pensions and (overly generous) healthcare, largely for their retirees. I think if this place offered the same (low) quality of school at 1/2 property tax DCUM wouldn’t like the ego hit but would be fine with it — because they would have more money for Larlo’s supplementation.

I hate how teachers and retired teachers insist on compensation and health insurance coverage. The nerve of 'em!

/s

It’s mostly admin and you know it.

It's mostly teachers and you know it. MCPS has:

13,994 professional (includes teachers) - 55.5%
9,741 supporting services - 38.6%
755 people in business operations/administrative - 3.0%
99 administrative - 0.4%

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/about/

That tells me nothing about how expenses are divided up. Please tell me you don’t teach.

That tells you who the employees are. When you're complaining about compensation, pensions, and health insurance, you're complaining about funding for people. Well, that's who the people are: 55.5% professional (including teachers), 38.6% supporting services, 3.0% business operations/administrative, 0.4% administrative.

I want to know who gets the bulk of the compensation funds. Your breakdown doesn’t tell me that.

This is basic stuff.

Of course it does. The bulk of the compensation funds goes to the bulk of the employees, which is the professional (including teachers) staff. Would you think the bulk of the compensation funds (assuming bulk = >50%) goes to 0.4% of the employees?

But you don't have to take my word for it! You can look at the MCPS operating budget tables. For positions, in dollars, for FY 2022 actual:

Professional (including teachers): $1,204,487,534 (69.8%)
Supporting services: $399,532,368 (23.2%)
Business/Operations Admin: $9,955,354 (0.6%)
Administrative: $111,473,903 (6.5%)
Total: $1,725,449,159

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/budget/fy2024/fy2024_summarybudget_final.pdf

That proves my point. Admin is 0.4% of MCPS employees and yet receives 6.5% of the compensation budget.

DP no it doesn't. You said "it's mostly admin and you know it". 6.5% is not "mostly" and of you got rid of all admin it would still be a drop in the bucket.

It’s still way more than proportionate.

And don’t think you can slap DP on a post and make me think it isn’t the person I’ve been talking to about this.

Lol, I appreciate the PP posting the budget numbers but that's not something I would ever take the time to do. Not my job to make you less ignorant.

Ok?

So getting back to the point, no you can't substantially reduce property taxes by cutting MCPS admin jobs. Sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:The current state of MCPS would actually be fine if it didn’t cost 3 billion plus a YEAR and much of it in things that don’t affect current classroom - defined (overly generous) pensions and (overly generous) healthcare, largely for their retirees. I think if this place offered the same (low) quality of school at 1/2 property tax DCUM wouldn’t like the ego hit but would be fine with it — because they would have more money for Larlo’s supplementation.

I hate how teachers and retired teachers insist on compensation and health insurance coverage. The nerve of 'em!

/s

It’s mostly admin and you know it.

It's mostly teachers and you know it. MCPS has:

13,994 professional (includes teachers) - 55.5%
9,741 supporting services - 38.6%
755 people in business operations/administrative - 3.0%
99 administrative - 0.4%

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/about/

That tells me nothing about how expenses are divided up. Please tell me you don’t teach.

That tells you who the employees are. When you're complaining about compensation, pensions, and health insurance, you're complaining about funding for people. Well, that's who the people are: 55.5% professional (including teachers), 38.6% supporting services, 3.0% business operations/administrative, 0.4% administrative.

I want to know who gets the bulk of the compensation funds. Your breakdown doesn’t tell me that.

This is basic stuff.

Of course it does. The bulk of the compensation funds goes to the bulk of the employees, which is the professional (including teachers) staff. Would you think the bulk of the compensation funds (assuming bulk = >50%) goes to 0.4% of the employees?

But you don't have to take my word for it! You can look at the MCPS operating budget tables. For positions, in dollars, for FY 2022 actual:

Professional (including teachers): $1,204,487,534 (69.8%)
Supporting services: $399,532,368 (23.2%)
Business/Operations Admin: $9,955,354 (0.6%)
Administrative: $111,473,903 (6.5%)
Total: $1,725,449,159

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/budget/fy2024/fy2024_summarybudget_final.pdf

That proves my point. Admin is 0.4% of MCPS employees and yet receives 6.5% of the compensation budget.

DP no it doesn't. You said "it's mostly admin and you know it". 6.5% is not "mostly" and of you got rid of all admin it would still be a drop in the bucket.

It’s still way more than proportionate.

And don’t think you can slap DP on a post and make me think it isn’t the person I’ve been talking to about this.

Lol, I appreciate the PP posting the budget numbers but that's not something I would ever take the time to do. Not my job to make you less ignorant.

Ok?

So getting back to the point, no you can't substantially reduce property taxes by cutting MCPS admin jobs. Sorry.

I’m not the person who proposed that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The current state of MCPS would actually be fine if it didn’t cost 3 billion plus a YEAR and much of it in things that don’t affect current classroom - defined (overly generous) pensions and (overly generous) healthcare, largely for their retirees. I think if this place offered the same (low) quality of school at 1/2 property tax DCUM wouldn’t like the ego hit but would be fine with it — because they would have more money for Larlo’s supplementation.

I hate how teachers and retired teachers insist on compensation and health insurance coverage. The nerve of 'em!

/s

It’s mostly admin and you know it.

It's mostly teachers and you know it. MCPS has:

13,994 professional (includes teachers) - 55.5%
9,741 supporting services - 38.6%
755 people in business operations/administrative - 3.0%
99 administrative - 0.4%

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/about/

That tells me nothing about how expenses are divided up. Please tell me you don’t teach.

That tells you who the employees are. When you're complaining about compensation, pensions, and health insurance, you're complaining about funding for people. Well, that's who the people are: 55.5% professional (including teachers), 38.6% supporting services, 3.0% business operations/administrative, 0.4% administrative.

I want to know who gets the bulk of the compensation funds. Your breakdown doesn’t tell me that.

This is basic stuff.

Of course it does. The bulk of the compensation funds goes to the bulk of the employees, which is the professional (including teachers) staff. Would you think the bulk of the compensation funds (assuming bulk = >50%) goes to 0.4% of the employees?

But you don't have to take my word for it! You can look at the MCPS operating budget tables. For positions, in dollars, for FY 2022 actual:

Professional (including teachers): $1,204,487,534 (69.8%)
Supporting services: $399,532,368 (23.2%)
Business/Operations Admin: $9,955,354 (0.6%)
Administrative: $111,473,903 (6.5%)
Total: $1,725,449,159

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/budget/fy2024/fy2024_summarybudget_final.pdf

That proves my point. Admin is 0.4% of MCPS employees and yet receives 6.5% of the compensation budget.

DP no it doesn't. You said "it's mostly admin and you know it". 6.5% is not "mostly" and of you got rid of all admin it would still be a drop in the bucket.

It’s still way more than proportionate.

And don’t think you can slap DP on a post and make me think it isn’t the person I’ve been talking to about this.

Lol, I appreciate the PP posting the budget numbers but that's not something I would ever take the time to do. Not my job to make you less ignorant.

Ok?

So getting back to the point, no you can't substantially reduce property taxes by cutting MCPS admin jobs. Sorry.

I’m not the person who proposed that.

Great, do you want a medal?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a Title One elementary school in MCPS. Our behaviors are off the charts this year. I honestly don't know how our admin continues to come to work each day. They constantly have kids in their offices. Even our staff development teacher, reading specialist, math coach AND both counselors are constantly with kids displaying behavior issues or eloping class. Admin can't suspend kids for running the halls, even in elementary school. I feel bad for our core team above because they can't do their actual jobs as they basically play security all day. I have some difficult kids but at least I can close my classroom door and ignore the chaos that's unfolding in rooms across the school.
Parents need to wake up and start parenting their kids rather than ignoring them on their phones or trying to be their friend. I applaud all of you who are trying your best to do right by your kids. Raise hell with the county council and board of ed. Your neighborhood school's principal can't do anything to make the changes we need to see.

You all need to work with the parents and let them know what's going on and have parents come in and volunteer and help vs. complaining. This isn't something new. Even before covid, may schools were closed to parents and yet, the teachers and admin complained bitterly about the parents. We cannot help if we don't know what's going on. Kids behave differently so they may be behaving at home and not school so if that's the situation it's on the teachers to communicate. We'd email the teachers and rarely get a response back.

Are you kidding me? At our focus school, we reach out non-stop to parents who do not answer, cut off their phones or give the wrong number, do not come in, say they will come in and do not show up or even call to cancel. For parent-teacher conferences, out of 17 kids, only 7 showed up. For the ones that did not, I sent home detailed reports outlining successes and areas that are in need of work in English and Spanish. I got no response. Not 1! Then, I actively called all the rest of the parents and was able to meet over the phone with 3 more. That is 10/17. My class had only 4 children out of 17 that were on or above grade level!!! I send home work and reading bags and nothing comes back. I advertise for parents to help out in the classroom, come on field trips, come join in on family storytime, send in pictures of their families for our family wall, etc. The list can go on and on. I get maybe 3% response. How am I supposed to feel? i put in 100% of my effort into my class and my kids. I track data, work tirelessly to correct behaviors gently and push them to be successful. I send pictures and updates to the class on remind through the parents phones so they can at least be a silent witness to their child's education and I only get 4 parents who have responded at all. Seriously! Parents need to step up! Stop having kids that you do not intend to even care about or try to raise. And, i do not want to hear excuses. I am a Mom of two myself, tutor, teach and coach and keep an immaculate house by myself. My kids have always scored well above average and one is in the top of her class in a magnet. We read everyday as a family for 30 minutes, I help with homework, and even take off one morning twice a year to volunteer at my kid's school. Most of my parents stay at home or work part-time so I am not even sure why they are not able to volunteer or answer my phone calls. I am not unique. This story is not unique. At a teacher conference that I was presenting in, almost all school face the same issues and can write the same stories. I will not even talk about the behavior because it is insane and not worth talking about. Teachers did not create this mess and are tired of getting blamed for it and giving up valuable teaching time for central office to wrack our brains about the mess and how we need to clean it up when we just follow the rules that are set and try our hardest (well, most of us). It is going to take everybody (government, parents and county admin) to clean this mess up. This is my last year, as I am working on switching careers. I know I will be missed because I am a phenomenal teacher and have many parents that I have worked with to help their children with over the years that have continued to share their child's success with me. I know I have made a difference but it is time to move on.

Let me guess. Title 1? In our (former) W elementary, you couldn’t get in that school but one day a year….

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Anonymous wrote:The current state of MCPS would actually be fine if it didn’t cost 3 billion plus a YEAR and much of it in things that don’t affect current classroom - defined (overly generous) pensions and (overly generous) healthcare, largely for their retirees. I think if this place offered the same (low) quality of school at 1/2 property tax DCUM wouldn’t like the ego hit but would be fine with it — because they would have more money for Larlo’s supplementation.

I hate how teachers and retired teachers insist on compensation and health insurance coverage. The nerve of 'em!

/s

Again your response proves my point…entitled teachers are defensive when you even question the expense of public schools. If MCPS teachers delivered Massachusetts public school results may not question the expense of these benefits but they don’t, not by a long shot…

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Anonymous wrote:The current state of MCPS would actually be fine if it didn’t cost 3 billion plus a YEAR and much of it in things that don’t affect current classroom - defined (overly generous) pensions and (overly generous) healthcare, largely for their retirees. I think if this place offered the same (low) quality of school at 1/2 property tax DCUM wouldn’t like the ego hit but would be fine with it — because they would have more money for Larlo’s supplementation.

I hate how teachers and retired teachers insist on compensation and health insurance coverage. The nerve of 'em!

/s

It’s mostly admin and you know it.

It's mostly teachers and you know it. MCPS has:

13,994 professional (includes teachers) - 55.5%
9,741 supporting services - 38.6%
755 people in business operations/administrative - 3.0%
99 administrative - 0.4%

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/about/

That tells me nothing about how expenses are divided up. Please tell me you don’t teach.

That tells you who the employees are. When you're complaining about compensation, pensions, and health insurance, you're complaining about funding for people. Well, that's who the people are: 55.5% professional (including teachers), 38.6% supporting services, 3.0% business operations/administrative, 0.4% administrative.

I want to know who gets the bulk of the compensation funds. Your breakdown doesn’t tell me that.

This is basic stuff.

Of course it does. The bulk of the compensation funds goes to the bulk of the employees, which is the professional (including teachers) staff. Would you think the bulk of the compensation funds (assuming bulk = >50%) goes to 0.4% of the employees?

But you don't have to take my word for it! You can look at the MCPS operating budget tables. For positions, in dollars, for FY 2022 actual:

Professional (including teachers): $1,204,487,534 (69.8%)
Supporting services: $399,532,368 (23.2%)
Business/Operations Admin: $9,955,354 (0.6%)
Administrative: $111,473,903 (6.5%)
Total: $1,725,449,159

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/budget/fy2024/fy2024_summarybudget_final.pdf

That proves my point. Admin is 0.4% of MCPS employees and yet receives 6.5% of the compensation budget.

DP no it doesn't. You said "it's mostly admin and you know it". 6.5% is not "mostly" and of you got rid of all admin it would still be a drop in the bucket.

It’s still way more than proportionate.

And don’t think you can slap DP on a post and make me think it isn’t the person I’ve been talking to about this.

Lol, I appreciate the PP posting the budget numbers but that's not something I would ever take the time to do. Not my job to make you less ignorant.

Ok?

So getting back to the point, no you can't substantially reduce property taxes by cutting MCPS admin jobs. Sorry.

I’m not the person who proposed that.

Great, do you want a medal?

Lol what?

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Anonymous wrote:The thing about everything being online, is that kids are not mature enough to regulate their computer usage. Elementary school and middle school kids are gaming and going on random websites instead of learning. Lots of distractions that having textbooks would sidetrack- at least until the kids get cell phones and are distracted that way.

-mcps educator

Elementary kids technically have textbooks. Benchmark (as problematic as it is)… they have magazines. There are Eureka workbooks for math…and also, both are online if need be. Pretty sure MCPS has this covered.

The problem is teachers don't use them.

Actually teachers in MCPS have to use them. Are parents here really this misinformed?

Not in the past few years. We follow what is going on.

Staff development teacher here. There’s not a single elementary school that wouldn’t use benchmark magazines or Eureka books. Been that way since 2020. Stop gaslighting this forum with your misinformation.

This is going to blow your mind, but half of the students in MCPS are not in elementary school. You are probably the same people saying that teachers aren't babysitters during the pandemic.
No shit, our teens don't need a sitter, they need a teacher or god forbid a textbook so parents can help with calculus and physics.

Benchmark and Eureka stop in ES, you are absolutely right. Without any structure, notes, nothing its very hard to learn without some kind of something, and not just a few slides.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a Title One elementary school in MCPS. Our behaviors are off the charts this year. I honestly don't know how our admin continues to come to work each day. They constantly have kids in their offices. Even our staff development teacher, reading specialist, math coach AND both counselors are constantly with kids displaying behavior issues or eloping class. Admin can't suspend kids for running the halls, even in elementary school. I feel bad for our core team above because they can't do their actual jobs as they basically play security all day. I have some difficult kids but at least I can close my classroom door and ignore the chaos that's unfolding in rooms across the school.
Parents need to wake up and start parenting their kids rather than ignoring them on their phones or trying to be their friend. I applaud all of you who are trying your best to do right by your kids. Raise hell with the county council and board of ed. Your neighborhood school's principal can't do anything to make the changes we need to see.

You all need to work with the parents and let them know what's going on and have parents come in and volunteer and help vs. complaining. This isn't something new. Even before covid, may schools were closed to parents and yet, the teachers and admin complained bitterly about the parents. We cannot help if we don't know what's going on. Kids behave differently so they may be behaving at home and not school so if that's the situation it's on the teachers to communicate. We'd email the teachers and rarely get a response back.

Are you kidding me? At our focus school, we reach out non-stop to parents who do not answer, cut off their phones or give the wrong number, do not come in, say they will come in and do not show up or even call to cancel. For parent-teacher conferences, out of 17 kids, only 7 showed up. For the ones that did not, I sent home detailed reports outlining successes and areas that are in need of work in English and Spanish. I got no response. Not 1! Then, I actively called all the rest of the parents and was able to meet over the phone with 3 more. That is 10/17. My class had only 4 children out of 17 that were on or above grade level!!! I send home work and reading bags and nothing comes back. I advertise for parents to help out in the classroom, come on field trips, come join in on family storytime, send in pictures of their families for our family wall, etc. The list can go on and on. I get maybe 3% response. How am I supposed to feel? i put in 100% of my effort into my class and my kids. I track data, work tirelessly to correct behaviors gently and push them to be successful. I send pictures and updates to the class on remind through the parents phones so they can at least be a silent witness to their child's education and I only get 4 parents who have responded at all. Seriously! Parents need to step up! Stop having kids that you do not intend to even care about or try to raise. And, i do not want to hear excuses. I am a Mom of two myself, tutor, teach and coach and keep an immaculate house by myself. My kids have always scored well above average and one is in the top of her class in a magnet. We read everyday as a family for 30 minutes, I help with homework, and even take off one morning twice a year to volunteer at my kid's school. Most of my parents stay at home or work part-time so I am not even sure why they are not able to volunteer or answer my phone calls. I am not unique. This story is not unique. At a teacher conference that I was presenting in, almost all school face the same issues and can write the same stories. I will not even talk about the behavior because it is insane and not worth talking about. Teachers did not create this mess and are tired of getting blamed for it and giving up valuable teaching time for central office to wrack our brains about the mess and how we need to clean it up when we just follow the rules that are set and try our hardest (well, most of us). It is going to take everybody (government, parents and county admin) to clean this mess up. This is my last year, as I am working on switching careers. I know I will be missed because I am a phenomenal teacher and have many parents that I have worked with to help their children with over the years that have continued to share their child's success with me. I know I have made a difference but it is time to move on.

Let me guess. Title 1? In our (former) W elementary, you couldn’t get in that school but one day a year….

Our focus school didn't let parents come except two parties a year and the open house.

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a Title One elementary school in MCPS. Our behaviors are off the charts this year. I honestly don't know how our admin continues to come to work each day. They constantly have kids in their offices. Even our staff development teacher, reading specialist, math coach AND both counselors are constantly with kids displaying behavior issues or eloping class. Admin can't suspend kids for running the halls, even in elementary school. I feel bad for our core team above because they can't do their actual jobs as they basically play security all day. I have some difficult kids but at least I can close my classroom door and ignore the chaos that's unfolding in rooms across the school.
Parents need to wake up and start parenting their kids rather than ignoring them on their phones or trying to be their friend. I applaud all of you who are trying your best to do right by your kids. Raise hell with the county council and board of ed. Your neighborhood school's principal can't do anything to make the changes we need to see.

You all need to work with the parents and let them know what's going on and have parents come in and volunteer and help vs. complaining. This isn't something new. Even before covid, may schools were closed to parents and yet, the teachers and admin complained bitterly about the parents. We cannot help if we don't know what's going on. Kids behave differently so they may be behaving at home and not school so if that's the situation it's on the teachers to communicate. We'd email the teachers and rarely get a response back.

Are you kidding me? At our focus school, we reach out non-stop to parents who do not answer, cut off their phones or give the wrong number, do not come in, say they will come in and do not show up or even call to cancel. For parent-teacher conferences, out of 17 kids, only 7 showed up. For the ones that did not, I sent home detailed reports outlining successes and areas that are in need of work in English and Spanish. I got no response. Not 1! Then, I actively called all the rest of the parents and was able to meet over the phone with 3 more. That is 10/17. My class had only 4 children out of 17 that were on or above grade level!!! I send home work and reading bags and nothing comes back. I advertise for parents to help out in the classroom, come on field trips, come join in on family storytime, send in pictures of their families for our family wall, etc. The list can go on and on. I get maybe 3% response. How am I supposed to feel? i put in 100% of my effort into my class and my kids. I track data, work tirelessly to correct behaviors gently and push them to be successful. I send pictures and updates to the class on remind through the parents phones so they can at least be a silent witness to their child's education and I only get 4 parents who have responded at all. Seriously! Parents need to step up! Stop having kids that you do not intend to even care about or try to raise. And, i do not want to hear excuses. I am a Mom of two myself, tutor, teach and coach and keep an immaculate house by myself. My kids have always scored well above average and one is in the top of her class in a magnet. We read everyday as a family for 30 minutes, I help with homework, and even take off one morning twice a year to volunteer at my kid's school. Most of my parents stay at home or work part-time so I am not even sure why they are not able to volunteer or answer my phone calls. I am not unique. This story is not unique. At a teacher conference that I was presenting in, almost all school face the same issues and can write the same stories. I will not even talk about the behavior because it is insane and not worth talking about. Teachers did not create this mess and are tired of getting blamed for it and giving up valuable teaching time for central office to wrack our brains about the mess and how we need to clean it up when we just follow the rules that are set and try our hardest (well, most of us). It is going to take everybody (government, parents and county admin) to clean this mess up. This is my last year, as I am working on switching careers. I know I will be missed because I am a phenomenal teacher and have many parents that I have worked with to help their children with over the years that have continued to share their child's success with me. I know I have made a difference but it is time to move on.

Let me guess. Title 1? In our (former) W elementary, you couldn’t get in that school but one day a year….

Our focus school didn't let parents come except two parties a year and the open house.

Just another reason why MCPS is such a terrible choice.

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So wait high schoolers in moco don’t even get textbooks anymore? Lmao what?!

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Anonymous wrote:So wait high schoolers in moco don’t even get textbooks anymore? Lmao what?!

And guess what — apparently we’re supposed to be ok with it and private school parents are idiots for opting out of this clown show!