Republicans and the debt ceiling

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Anonymous wrote:Wtf kind of koolaid is this guy drinking? Honestly. Yes, let’s collapse the economy to accomplish…. What?


He’s just admitting what the GOP wants. They think if they collapse the economy it will help them in the next election.


Might not have much of a country left by the next election if that’s the plan.


Not sure it matters much to them. Their only goal these days is to own the libs.
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Anonymous wrote:The House has passed a bill to raise the debt ceiling. Ball is in Senate court--along with the President.


A clean bill? Or did they just pretend to pass something that raises the debt if we ignore that it cuts veterans benefits or some irresponsible bill-killing stuff like that?


Ah yes, let's let the Senate pass a clean spending bill or perhaps one that cuts military spending by 25%, gets rid of the Bush and Trump tax cuts, makes capital gains taxes for those making more than $400K equal to the income tax, and eliminate the cap on social security payments. We'd be rolling in revenue and be able to fund ALL of President's priorities.

Lastly, don't think for a sec that if the shoe is on the foot, that Democrats won't decide to flip the script next time the debt limit is reached. We default. We go into a recession. If Republicans win the white house, then Democrats will happily hold the debt ceiling hostage to their wish list of demands. Careful what you wish for, PP. That's why it's always been a clean bill in the past.
Have the Dems ever done that (recently?) I seem to recall it being Republicans the ones to shut down the government, at least in the last 20 years.


No, they've never done this. They've acted in good faith under Republican Presidents and passed clean debt resolutions. Every. Single. Time. However, if the Republicans want to hold the country hostage and play brinksmanship with the economy in exchange for its wishlist, who's to stop the Democrats from doing so the next time a Republican is in the White House? Why wouldn't they? I would think the gloves come off once it's clear that the Republicans no longer ever negotiate in good faith.


What's to stop them? The fact that they have actual ethics and morals and the GOP knows they wouldn't harm hundreds of millions of people just to get their way on fiscal policy.


Democrats somehow believe the government should function and that threatening to burn down the government and crash the economy is dangerously stupid.


Reminder: GOP in House voted to raise the debt limit.
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Anonymous wrote:The House has passed a bill to raise the debt ceiling. Ball is in Senate court--along with the President.


A clean bill? Or did they just pretend to pass something that raises the debt if we ignore that it cuts veterans benefits or some irresponsible bill-killing stuff like that?


Ah yes, let's let the Senate pass a clean spending bill or perhaps one that cuts military spending by 25%, gets rid of the Bush and Trump tax cuts, makes capital gains taxes for those making more than $400K equal to the income tax, and eliminate the cap on social security payments. We'd be rolling in revenue and be able to fund ALL of President's priorities.

Lastly, don't think for a sec that if the shoe is on the foot, that Democrats won't decide to flip the script next time the debt limit is reached. We default. We go into a recession. If Republicans win the white house, then Democrats will happily hold the debt ceiling hostage to their wish list of demands. Careful what you wish for, PP. That's why it's always been a clean bill in the past.
Have the Dems ever done that (recently?) I seem to recall it being Republicans the ones to shut down the government, at least in the last 20 years.


No, they've never done this. They've acted in good faith under Republican Presidents and passed clean debt resolutions. Every. Single. Time. However, if the Republicans want to hold the country hostage and play brinksmanship with the economy in exchange for its wishlist, who's to stop the Democrats from doing so the next time a Republican is in the White House? Why wouldn't they? I would think the gloves come off once it's clear that the Republicans no longer ever negotiate in good faith.


What's to stop them? The fact that they have actual ethics and morals and the GOP knows they wouldn't harm hundreds of millions of people just to get their way on fiscal policy.


Democrats somehow believe the government should function and that threatening to burn down the government and crash the economy is dangerously stupid.


Reminder: GOP in House voted to raise the debt limit.


They did? A clean debt resolution? Oh, no? Just a Republicans wish list fever dream attached to it? No, that's not doing their job. That's preening for the base.
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Anonymous wrote:The House has passed a bill to raise the debt ceiling. Ball is in Senate court--along with the President.


A clean bill? Or did they just pretend to pass something that raises the debt if we ignore that it cuts veterans benefits or some irresponsible bill-killing stuff like that?


Ah yes, let's let the Senate pass a clean spending bill or perhaps one that cuts military spending by 25%, gets rid of the Bush and Trump tax cuts, makes capital gains taxes for those making more than $400K equal to the income tax, and eliminate the cap on social security payments. We'd be rolling in revenue and be able to fund ALL of President's priorities.

Lastly, don't think for a sec that if the shoe is on the foot, that Democrats won't decide to flip the script next time the debt limit is reached. We default. We go into a recession. If Republicans win the white house, then Democrats will happily hold the debt ceiling hostage to their wish list of demands. Careful what you wish for, PP. That's why it's always been a clean bill in the past.
Have the Dems ever done that (recently?) I seem to recall it being Republicans the ones to shut down the government, at least in the last 20 years.


No, they've never done this. They've acted in good faith under Republican Presidents and passed clean debt resolutions. Every. Single. Time. However, if the Republicans want to hold the country hostage and play brinksmanship with the economy in exchange for its wishlist, who's to stop the Democrats from doing so the next time a Republican is in the White House? Why wouldn't they? I would think the gloves come off once it's clear that the Republicans no longer ever negotiate in good faith.


What's to stop them? The fact that they have actual ethics and morals and the GOP knows they wouldn't harm hundreds of millions of people just to get their way on fiscal policy.


Democrats somehow believe the government should function and that threatening to burn down the government and crash the economy is dangerously stupid.


Reminder: GOP in House voted to raise the debt limit.


Provided, however, that any new money spent is paid using unicorn tears as currency. WHY WON'T DEMOCRATS NEGOTIATE?
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Anonymous wrote:The House has passed a bill to raise the debt ceiling. Ball is in Senate court--along with the President.


A clean bill? Or did they just pretend to pass something that raises the debt if we ignore that it cuts veterans benefits or some irresponsible bill-killing stuff like that?


Ah yes, let's let the Senate pass a clean spending bill or perhaps one that cuts military spending by 25%, gets rid of the Bush and Trump tax cuts, makes capital gains taxes for those making more than $400K equal to the income tax, and eliminate the cap on social security payments. We'd be rolling in revenue and be able to fund ALL of President's priorities.

Lastly, don't think for a sec that if the shoe is on the foot, that Democrats won't decide to flip the script next time the debt limit is reached. We default. We go into a recession. If Republicans win the white house, then Democrats will happily hold the debt ceiling hostage to their wish list of demands. Careful what you wish for, PP. That's why it's always been a clean bill in the past.
Have the Dems ever done that (recently?) I seem to recall it being Republicans the ones to shut down the government, at least in the last 20 years.


No, they've never done this. They've acted in good faith under Republican Presidents and passed clean debt resolutions. Every. Single. Time. However, if the Republicans want to hold the country hostage and play brinksmanship with the economy in exchange for its wishlist, who's to stop the Democrats from doing so the next time a Republican is in the White House? Why wouldn't they? I would think the gloves come off once it's clear that the Republicans no longer ever negotiate in good faith.


What's to stop them? The fact that they have actual ethics and morals and the GOP knows they wouldn't harm hundreds of millions of people just to get their way on fiscal policy.


Democrats somehow believe the government should function and that threatening to burn down the government and crash the economy is dangerously stupid.


Reminder: GOP in House voted to raise the debt limit.

GOP in House also voted to cut spending for veterans.
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Anonymous wrote:The House has passed a bill to raise the debt ceiling. Ball is in Senate court--along with the President.


A clean bill? Or did they just pretend to pass something that raises the debt if we ignore that it cuts veterans benefits or some irresponsible bill-killing stuff like that?


Ah yes, let's let the Senate pass a clean spending bill or perhaps one that cuts military spending by 25%, gets rid of the Bush and Trump tax cuts, makes capital gains taxes for those making more than $400K equal to the income tax, and eliminate the cap on social security payments. We'd be rolling in revenue and be able to fund ALL of President's priorities.

Lastly, don't think for a sec that if the shoe is on the foot, that Democrats won't decide to flip the script next time the debt limit is reached. We default. We go into a recession. If Republicans win the white house, then Democrats will happily hold the debt ceiling hostage to their wish list of demands. Careful what you wish for, PP. That's why it's always been a clean bill in the past.
Have the Dems ever done that (recently?) I seem to recall it being Republicans the ones to shut down the government, at least in the last 20 years.


There was an Obama shutdown. Ted Cruz was a new senator and was holding funding to implement the ACA hostage. I’m a Fed and had to work unpaid, but I still think it was a fight worth having.
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Look deeper in the poll. Independents swing toward Dems and Biden on the issues no one care about NOVA Dems or MAGA. Those votes or locked in. The small percentage of the country that is currently swing voters is the important piece.
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Anonymous wrote:The House has passed a bill to raise the debt ceiling. Ball is in Senate court--along with the President.


A clean bill? Or did they just pretend to pass something that raises the debt if we ignore that it cuts veterans benefits or some irresponsible bill-killing stuff like that?


Ah yes, let's let the Senate pass a clean spending bill or perhaps one that cuts military spending by 25%, gets rid of the Bush and Trump tax cuts, makes capital gains taxes for those making more than $400K equal to the income tax, and eliminate the cap on social security payments. We'd be rolling in revenue and be able to fund ALL of President's priorities.

Lastly, don't think for a sec that if the shoe is on the foot, that Democrats won't decide to flip the script next time the debt limit is reached. We default. We go into a recession. If Republicans win the white house, then Democrats will happily hold the debt ceiling hostage to their wish list of demands. Careful what you wish for, PP. That's why it's always been a clean bill in the past.
Have the Dems ever done that (recently?) I seem to recall it being Republicans the ones to shut down the government, at least in the last 20 years.


No, they've never done this. They've acted in good faith under Republican Presidents and passed clean debt resolutions. Every. Single. Time. However, if the Republicans want to hold the country hostage and play brinksmanship with the economy in exchange for its wishlist, who's to stop the Democrats from doing so the next time a Republican is in the White House? Why wouldn't they? I would think the gloves come off once it's clear that the Republicans no longer ever negotiate in good faith.


What's to stop them? The fact that they have actual ethics and morals and the GOP knows they wouldn't harm hundreds of millions of people just to get their way on fiscal policy.


Democrats somehow believe the government should function and that threatening to burn down the government and crash the economy is dangerously stupid.


Reminder: GOP in House voted to raise the debt limit.


The question was why are aren’t Democrats hypocritical obstructionists like Republicans when the White House is held by the other party.
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Anonymous wrote:The House has passed a bill to raise the debt ceiling. Ball is in Senate court--along with the President.


A clean bill? Or did they just pretend to pass something that raises the debt if we ignore that it cuts veterans benefits or some irresponsible bill-killing stuff like that?


Ah yes, let's let the Senate pass a clean spending bill or perhaps one that cuts military spending by 25%, gets rid of the Bush and Trump tax cuts, makes capital gains taxes for those making more than $400K equal to the income tax, and eliminate the cap on social security payments. We'd be rolling in revenue and be able to fund ALL of President's priorities.

Lastly, don't think for a sec that if the shoe is on the foot, that Democrats won't decide to flip the script next time the debt limit is reached. We default. We go into a recession. If Republicans win the white house, then Democrats will happily hold the debt ceiling hostage to their wish list of demands. Careful what you wish for, PP. That's why it's always been a clean bill in the past.
Have the Dems ever done that (recently?) I seem to recall it being Republicans the ones to shut down the government, at least in the last 20 years.


No, they've never done this. They've acted in good faith under Republican Presidents and passed clean debt resolutions. Every. Single. Time. However, if the Republicans want to hold the country hostage and play brinksmanship with the economy in exchange for its wishlist, who's to stop the Democrats from doing so the next time a Republican is in the White House? Why wouldn't they? I would think the gloves come off once it's clear that the Republicans no longer ever negotiate in good faith.


What's to stop them? The fact that they have actual ethics and morals and the GOP knows they wouldn't harm hundreds of millions of people just to get their way on fiscal policy.


Democrats somehow believe the government should function and that threatening to burn down the government and crash the economy is dangerously stupid.


Well then, during the budgeting process, you democrats can restrain yourself and not always come up with more and more ways to spend money we don't have instead of just whining every few years about the debt limit.

When the debt limit is passed, will you become more responsible or not?

Countries are voting with their feet. They're running away from the dollar because you insist on diluting it.
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Anonymous wrote:The House has passed a bill to raise the debt ceiling. Ball is in Senate court--along with the President.


A clean bill? Or did they just pretend to pass something that raises the debt if we ignore that it cuts veterans benefits or some irresponsible bill-killing stuff like that?


Ah yes, let's let the Senate pass a clean spending bill or perhaps one that cuts military spending by 25%, gets rid of the Bush and Trump tax cuts, makes capital gains taxes for those making more than $400K equal to the income tax, and eliminate the cap on social security payments. We'd be rolling in revenue and be able to fund ALL of President's priorities.

Lastly, don't think for a sec that if the shoe is on the foot, that Democrats won't decide to flip the script next time the debt limit is reached. We default. We go into a recession. If Republicans win the white house, then Democrats will happily hold the debt ceiling hostage to their wish list of demands. Careful what you wish for, PP. That's why it's always been a clean bill in the past.
Have the Dems ever done that (recently?) I seem to recall it being Republicans the ones to shut down the government, at least in the last 20 years.


No, they've never done this. They've acted in good faith under Republican Presidents and passed clean debt resolutions. Every. Single. Time. However, if the Republicans want to hold the country hostage and play brinksmanship with the economy in exchange for its wishlist, who's to stop the Democrats from doing so the next time a Republican is in the White House? Why wouldn't they? I would think the gloves come off once it's clear that the Republicans no longer ever negotiate in good faith.


What's to stop them? The fact that they have actual ethics and morals and the GOP knows they wouldn't harm hundreds of millions of people just to get their way on fiscal policy.


Democrats somehow believe the government should function and that threatening to burn down the government and crash the economy is dangerously stupid.


Well then, during the budgeting process, you democrats can restrain yourself and not always come up with more and more ways to spend money we don't have instead of just whining every few years about the debt limit.

When the debt limit is passed, will you become more responsible or not?

Countries are voting with their feet. They're running away from the dollar because you insist on diluting it.


Democrats are the only ones who ever pay for or offset the costs of their proposals. Democrats had “pay as you go” requirements in Congress and when Republicans took the House in 2001 they ditched PAYGO and blew up the budget and eventually crashed the economy. When Democrats took the House again they brought back PAYGO and enforced it. Then Republicans ditched it again and blew up the budget with Trump. You are clueless about the federal budget.
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Anonymous wrote:The House has passed a bill to raise the debt ceiling. Ball is in Senate court--along with the President.


A clean bill? Or did they just pretend to pass something that raises the debt if we ignore that it cuts veterans benefits or some irresponsible bill-killing stuff like that?


Ah yes, let's let the Senate pass a clean spending bill or perhaps one that cuts military spending by 25%, gets rid of the Bush and Trump tax cuts, makes capital gains taxes for those making more than $400K equal to the income tax, and eliminate the cap on social security payments. We'd be rolling in revenue and be able to fund ALL of President's priorities.

Lastly, don't think for a sec that if the shoe is on the foot, that Democrats won't decide to flip the script next time the debt limit is reached. We default. We go into a recession. If Republicans win the white house, then Democrats will happily hold the debt ceiling hostage to their wish list of demands. Careful what you wish for, PP. That's why it's always been a clean bill in the past.
Have the Dems ever done that (recently?) I seem to recall it being Republicans the ones to shut down the government, at least in the last 20 years.


No, they've never done this. They've acted in good faith under Republican Presidents and passed clean debt resolutions. Every. Single. Time. However, if the Republicans want to hold the country hostage and play brinksmanship with the economy in exchange for its wishlist, who's to stop the Democrats from doing so the next time a Republican is in the White House? Why wouldn't they? I would think the gloves come off once it's clear that the Republicans no longer ever negotiate in good faith.


What's to stop them? The fact that they have actual ethics and morals and the GOP knows they wouldn't harm hundreds of millions of people just to get their way on fiscal policy.


Democrats somehow believe the government should function and that threatening to burn down the government and crash the economy is dangerously stupid.


Well then, during the budgeting process, you democrats can restrain yourself and not always come up with more and more ways to spend money we don't have instead of just whining every few years about the debt limit.

When the debt limit is passed, will you become more responsible or not?

Countries are voting with their feet. They're running away from the dollar because you insist on diluting it.


Or you know, we could actually "Make America Great Again" and raise taxes on corporations and individuals to the levels on seen in the 1950s. You R's never ever think that raising taxes is the answer. We do, if it's well spent.
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Anonymous wrote:The House has passed a bill to raise the debt ceiling. Ball is in Senate court--along with the President.


A clean bill? Or did they just pretend to pass something that raises the debt if we ignore that it cuts veterans benefits or some irresponsible bill-killing stuff like that?


Ah yes, let's let the Senate pass a clean spending bill or perhaps one that cuts military spending by 25%, gets rid of the Bush and Trump tax cuts, makes capital gains taxes for those making more than $400K equal to the income tax, and eliminate the cap on social security payments. We'd be rolling in revenue and be able to fund ALL of President's priorities.

Lastly, don't think for a sec that if the shoe is on the foot, that Democrats won't decide to flip the script next time the debt limit is reached. We default. We go into a recession. If Republicans win the white house, then Democrats will happily hold the debt ceiling hostage to their wish list of demands. Careful what you wish for, PP. That's why it's always been a clean bill in the past.
Have the Dems ever done that (recently?) I seem to recall it being Republicans the ones to shut down the government, at least in the last 20 years.


No, they've never done this. They've acted in good faith under Republican Presidents and passed clean debt resolutions. Every. Single. Time. However, if the Republicans want to hold the country hostage and play brinksmanship with the economy in exchange for its wishlist, who's to stop the Democrats from doing so the next time a Republican is in the White House? Why wouldn't they? I would think the gloves come off once it's clear that the Republicans no longer ever negotiate in good faith.


What's to stop them? The fact that they have actual ethics and morals and the GOP knows they wouldn't harm hundreds of millions of people just to get their way on fiscal policy.


Democrats somehow believe the government should function and that threatening to burn down the government and crash the economy is dangerously stupid.


Well then, during the budgeting process, you democrats can restrain yourself and not always come up with more and more ways to spend money we don't have instead of just whining every few years about the debt limit.

When the debt limit is passed, will you become more responsible or not?

Countries are voting with their feet. They're running away from the dollar because you insist on diluting it.


Or you know, we could actually "Make America Great Again" and raise taxes on corporations and individuals to the levels on seen in the 1950s. You R's never ever think that raising taxes is the answer. We do, if it's well spent.


1950's? How about the 2010's first
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Anonymous wrote:The House has passed a bill to raise the debt ceiling. Ball is in Senate court--along with the President.


A clean bill? Or did they just pretend to pass something that raises the debt if we ignore that it cuts veterans benefits or some irresponsible bill-killing stuff like that?


Ah yes, let's let the Senate pass a clean spending bill or perhaps one that cuts military spending by 25%, gets rid of the Bush and Trump tax cuts, makes capital gains taxes for those making more than $400K equal to the income tax, and eliminate the cap on social security payments. We'd be rolling in revenue and be able to fund ALL of President's priorities.

Lastly, don't think for a sec that if the shoe is on the foot, that Democrats won't decide to flip the script next time the debt limit is reached. We default. We go into a recession. If Republicans win the white house, then Democrats will happily hold the debt ceiling hostage to their wish list of demands. Careful what you wish for, PP. That's why it's always been a clean bill in the past.
Have the Dems ever done that (recently?) I seem to recall it being Republicans the ones to shut down the government, at least in the last 20 years.


No, they've never done this. They've acted in good faith under Republican Presidents and passed clean debt resolutions. Every. Single. Time. However, if the Republicans want to hold the country hostage and play brinksmanship with the economy in exchange for its wishlist, who's to stop the Democrats from doing so the next time a Republican is in the White House? Why wouldn't they? I would think the gloves come off once it's clear that the Republicans no longer ever negotiate in good faith.


What's to stop them? The fact that they have actual ethics and morals and the GOP knows they wouldn't harm hundreds of millions of people just to get their way on fiscal policy.


Democrats somehow believe the government should function and that threatening to burn down the government and crash the economy is dangerously stupid.


Reminder: GOP in House voted to raise the debt limit.


With a 22% across the board funding cut. 22% of everything... defense, VA, Social Security, Medicare, schools, FDA, roads, FAA, etc
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Anonymous wrote:The House has passed a bill to raise the debt ceiling. Ball is in Senate court--along with the President.


A clean bill? Or did they just pretend to pass something that raises the debt if we ignore that it cuts veterans benefits or some irresponsible bill-killing stuff like that?


Ah yes, let's let the Senate pass a clean spending bill or perhaps one that cuts military spending by 25%, gets rid of the Bush and Trump tax cuts, makes capital gains taxes for those making more than $400K equal to the income tax, and eliminate the cap on social security payments. We'd be rolling in revenue and be able to fund ALL of President's priorities.

Lastly, don't think for a sec that if the shoe is on the foot, that Democrats won't decide to flip the script next time the debt limit is reached. We default. We go into a recession. If Republicans win the white house, then Democrats will happily hold the debt ceiling hostage to their wish list of demands. Careful what you wish for, PP. That's why it's always been a clean bill in the past.
Have the Dems ever done that (recently?) I seem to recall it being Republicans the ones to shut down the government, at least in the last 20 years.


No, they've never done this. They've acted in good faith under Republican Presidents and passed clean debt resolutions. Every. Single. Time. However, if the Republicans want to hold the country hostage and play brinksmanship with the economy in exchange for its wishlist, who's to stop the Democrats from doing so the next time a Republican is in the White House? Why wouldn't they? I would think the gloves come off once it's clear that the Republicans no longer ever negotiate in good faith.


What's to stop them? The fact that they have actual ethics and morals and the GOP knows they wouldn't harm hundreds of millions of people just to get their way on fiscal policy.


Democrats somehow believe the government should function and that threatening to burn down the government and crash the economy is dangerously stupid.


Reminder: GOP in House voted to raise the debt limit.


They have not come up with a budget only cuts. McCarthy feels the swinging breeze of the Sword of Damocles getting closer and closer to his pretty little neck in the form of losing his speakership. He made a deal with the GOP devils and now they want his pathetic soul.

If McCarthy wants to keep his job, he would do well to strike a deal with Jeffries and the Dems.
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