The White Lotus season 2

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Anonymous wrote:I think Harper wants someone to want her. And Ethan seems so uninterested in her that she's feeling annoyed.

Cameron on the other hand (for what are surely manipulative, underhanded reasons) is letting her know that he wants her. And as she feels more and more vulnerable as her relationship which she's based her life on seems unsure / not great, she's more vulnerable to Cameron's manipulation.

Also, as much as Cameron is an uber-douche he's also hot as hell. So, you know, in a weak moment she might go for that.

The main reason I don't think this is what is going on with the Harper/Ethan/Cameron/Daphne storyline is that it would too closely parallel what is going on with Portia. Like Portia's whole deal is that she wants a guy and she's been presented with Albie but he's not alpha enough for her at the moment so she's ditching him for this other guy. If it turns out that Harper is also just annoyed that Ethan isn't alpha enough for her and winds up cheating on him with Cameron, who is super alpha, I will frankly be annoyed because this is such a trite message about men and women ("women like bad boys, nice guys can't win"). It's boring.

So for that reason I don't think that's what will happen with Harper. I do sense the tension between her and Cameron, but I think there's a lot more hate on both sides than attraction. Cameron wants to win over Harper purely for power reasons (to prove to Ethan he can, and so he can manipulate Ethan more), and Harper just genuinely dislikes Cameron and everything he stands for even if she can acknowledge he's attractive. Her actual husband is also hot as hell so I don't think she's going to be that turned around by a guy just because he has Theo James' body.

I don't think she wants Ethan to be "alpha" - I think she wants him to want to have s** with his wife. (As someone whose husband lost interest in s** several years ago, this is a painfully relatable storyline.)

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Anonymous wrote:I think we will find out there was some kind of incident between Cameron and Ethan when they were roommates. Maybe some kind of hazing ritual, or Cameron doing something really awful while drunk, or maybe something worse. One theory I have is that Ethan is bi and Cameron suspected it, came onto Ethan in order to get it confirmed, and then Cameron revealed it was all a ruse to find out if Ethan would be into it and now Cameron uses this incident as silent blackmail against Ethan. And maybe that's why Ethan didn't feel like he could bail on the night with Ethan while the girls were gone, and why he is following "bro code" and not just telling Harper what happened since he didn't do anything wrong.

But I also think Harper is very sharp and might be sniffing this out. She has already noticed that Ethan acts different around Cameron and she knows he lied about the night with Cameron, but she's being very methodical in how she draws it out of him. I think she might intuitively understand the whole situation but she knows that the only way to protect her marriage is if Ethan tells her himself. I think she'd be fine with him being bi and also more than happy to help Ethan find a way to flip the tables on Cameron, but she needs Ethan to come clean with her, not just about the night at the hotel but about his whole past with Cameron.

I could be totally off base but that's how I'm reading what appears to be obvious subtext in that relationship.

Given what we know about Harper, she may be bi too - and I don't think she'd care if her husband is bi. She might care if he's cheating - or they might have some arrangement - but I don't think him being bi would faze her one bit.

Clearly she's got a heightened something around Cameron - she seems to loathe him and also to be titillated by him. I think if it's just that he and Ethan had a thing in college, she'd be relieved.

I disagree. For her character, faithfulness seems paramount. She is deeply upset by infidelity. It seems to be her deal breaker. She's also Puerto Rican, likely Catholic where infidelity is a 'sin'. I do not think she'd be okay with a 'bi' husband and certainly isn't going to condone gay sex behind her back.

She does want a man to want her and, even though she strongly protests, she is very jealous of Daphne and the way Cameron is into her and shows her physical affection, etc.

The bed scene with Portia at the end seemed foreboding. It looked like she was about to protest/not give consent. I think in that split second she was having second thoughts. I think that scene will end up being a 'date rape' thing.

You're conflating a bunch of things. Not all bi people cheat - and I'm not sure why you put bi in quotation marks. You can be bi and monogamous. I think if her husband were cheating with anyone - male or female - that would be devastating to her, especially because she is so neglected sexually. Her husband having attraction to men would not devastate her, I don't think - him cheating on her would.

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Anonymous wrote:Just heard a cool side-story on a podcast:

This picture was in the old man's room and Lucia saw it and did a sign of the cross. Apparently it's St. Lucy:

"Santa Lucia (Saint Lucy) is a Catholic saint who was born in Syracuse, Sicily, in 283 AD and was martyred at the age of 20...Lucia vowed at a young age to live her life in the service of Christ. Lucia’s mother attempted an arranged marriage for her daughter to a pagan man. When Lucia refused, the angry suitor reported her to Roman authorities, and Lucia subsequently was sentenced to life in a brothel and forced into prostitution."

What podcast? Sounds interesting.
I’m enjoying the season and love all yalls commentary. Some brilliant people on these boards.

Prestige TV: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-prestige-tv-podcast/id1586390793?i=1000586052467

Post Show Recaps: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-white-lotus-a-post-show-recap/id1643941016

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Anonymous wrote:I think we will find out there was some kind of incident between Cameron and Ethan when they were roommates. Maybe some kind of hazing ritual, or Cameron doing something really awful while drunk, or maybe something worse. One theory I have is that Ethan is bi and Cameron suspected it, came onto Ethan in order to get it confirmed, and then Cameron revealed it was all a ruse to find out if Ethan would be into it and now Cameron uses this incident as silent blackmail against Ethan. And maybe that's why Ethan didn't feel like he could bail on the night with Ethan while the girls were gone, and why he is following "bro code" and not just telling Harper what happened since he didn't do anything wrong.

But I also think Harper is very sharp and might be sniffing this out. She has already noticed that Ethan acts different around Cameron and she knows he lied about the night with Cameron, but she's being very methodical in how she draws it out of him. I think she might intuitively understand the whole situation but she knows that the only way to protect her marriage is if Ethan tells her himself. I think she'd be fine with him being bi and also more than happy to help Ethan find a way to flip the tables on Cameron, but she needs Ethan to come clean with her, not just about the night at the hotel but about his whole past with Cameron.

I could be totally off base but that's how I'm reading what appears to be obvious subtext in that relationship.

Given what we know about Harper, she may be bi too - and I don't think she'd care if her husband is bi. She might care if he's cheating - or they might have some arrangement - but I don't think him being bi would faze her one bit.

Clearly she's got a heightened something around Cameron - she seems to loathe him and also to be titillated by him. I think if it's just that he and Ethan had a thing in college, she'd be relieved.

I disagree. For her character, faithfulness seems paramount. She is deeply upset by infidelity. It seems to be her deal breaker. She's also Puerto Rican, likely Catholic where infidelity is a 'sin'. I do not think she'd be okay with a 'bi' husband and certainly isn't going to condone gay sex behind her back.

She does want a man to want her and, even though she strongly protests, she is very jealous of Daphne and the way Cameron is into her and shows her physical affection, etc.

The bed scene with Portia at the end seemed foreboding. It looked like she was about to protest/not give consent. I think in that split second she was having second thoughts. I think that scene will end up being a 'date rape' thing.

I hope not! The thing I like about this season is the theme of having fun. And I would hate for all the fun to be portrayed as bad (like when Lucia says to Cameron "Let's fun!)

Portia is young, has no commitments and wants to have some fun - he's fun and Albie isn't. Sure, Albie is a better catch if she wants to get married but sometimes you just want to have a good time and that's okay. Do women always have to choose the better catch??

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Anonymous wrote:I think we will find out there was some kind of incident between Cameron and Ethan when they were roommates. Maybe some kind of hazing ritual, or Cameron doing something really awful while drunk, or maybe something worse. One theory I have is that Ethan is bi and Cameron suspected it, came onto Ethan in order to get it confirmed, and then Cameron revealed it was all a ruse to find out if Ethan would be into it and now Cameron uses this incident as silent blackmail against Ethan. And maybe that's why Ethan didn't feel like he could bail on the night with Ethan while the girls were gone, and why he is following "bro code" and not just telling Harper what happened since he didn't do anything wrong.

But I also think Harper is very sharp and might be sniffing this out. She has already noticed that Ethan acts different around Cameron and she knows he lied about the night with Cameron, but she's being very methodical in how she draws it out of him. I think she might intuitively understand the whole situation but she knows that the only way to protect her marriage is if Ethan tells her himself. I think she'd be fine with him being bi and also more than happy to help Ethan find a way to flip the tables on Cameron, but she needs Ethan to come clean with her, not just about the night at the hotel but about his whole past with Cameron.

I could be totally off base but that's how I'm reading what appears to be obvious subtext in that relationship.

Given what we know about Harper, she may be bi too - and I don't think she'd care if her husband is bi. She might care if he's cheating - or they might have some arrangement - but I don't think him being bi would faze her one bit.

Clearly she's got a heightened something around Cameron - she seems to loathe him and also to be titillated by him. I think if it's just that he and Ethan had a thing in college, she'd be relieved.

I disagree. For her character, faithfulness seems paramount. She is deeply upset by infidelity. It seems to be her deal breaker. She's also Puerto Rican, likely Catholic where infidelity is a 'sin'. I do not think she'd be okay with a 'bi' husband and certainly isn't going to condone gay sex behind her back.

She does want a man to want her and, even though she strongly protests, she is very jealous of Daphne and the way Cameron is into her and shows her physical affection, etc.

The bed scene with Portia at the end seemed foreboding. It looked like she was about to protest/not give consent. I think in that split second she was having second thoughts. I think that scene will end up being a 'date rape' thing.

I hope not! The thing I like about this season is the theme of having fun. And I would hate for all the fun to be portrayed as bad (like when Lucia says to Cameron "Let's fun!)

Portia is young, has no commitments and wants to have some fun - he's fun and Albie isn't. Sure, Albie is a better catch if she wants to get married but sometimes you just want to have a good time and that's okay. Do women always have to choose the better catch??

DP. But Portia having fun doesn’t make for a great story. I think the guy, in tandem with the uncle and his posse, will just use Portia as an in to Tanya. To get money or whatever or is they want.

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Anonymous wrote:I think we will find out there was some kind of incident between Cameron and Ethan when they were roommates. Maybe some kind of hazing ritual, or Cameron doing something really awful while drunk, or maybe something worse. One theory I have is that Ethan is bi and Cameron suspected it, came onto Ethan in order to get it confirmed, and then Cameron revealed it was all a ruse to find out if Ethan would be into it and now Cameron uses this incident as silent blackmail against Ethan. And maybe that's why Ethan didn't feel like he could bail on the night with Ethan while the girls were gone, and why he is following "bro code" and not just telling Harper what happened since he didn't do anything wrong.

But I also think Harper is very sharp and might be sniffing this out. She has already noticed that Ethan acts different around Cameron and she knows he lied about the night with Cameron, but she's being very methodical in how she draws it out of him. I think she might intuitively understand the whole situation but she knows that the only way to protect her marriage is if Ethan tells her himself. I think she'd be fine with him being bi and also more than happy to help Ethan find a way to flip the tables on Cameron, but she needs Ethan to come clean with her, not just about the night at the hotel but about his whole past with Cameron.

I could be totally off base but that's how I'm reading what appears to be obvious subtext in that relationship.

Given what we know about Harper, she may be bi too - and I don't think she'd care if her husband is bi. She might care if he's cheating - or they might have some arrangement - but I don't think him being bi would faze her one bit.

Clearly she's got a heightened something around Cameron - she seems to loathe him and also to be titillated by him. I think if it's just that he and Ethan had a thing in college, she'd be relieved.

I disagree. For her character, faithfulness seems paramount. She is deeply upset by infidelity. It seems to be her deal breaker. She's also Puerto Rican, likely Catholic where infidelity is a 'sin'. I do not think she'd be okay with a 'bi' husband and certainly isn't going to condone gay sex behind her back.

She does want a man to want her and, even though she strongly protests, she is very jealous of Daphne and the way Cameron is into her and shows her physical affection, etc.

The bed scene with Portia at the end seemed foreboding. It looked like she was about to protest/not give consent. I think in that split second she was having second thoughts. I think that scene will end up being a 'date rape' thing.

I hope not! The thing I like about this season is the theme of having fun. And I would hate for all the fun to be portrayed as bad (like when Lucia says to Cameron "Let's fun!)

Portia is young, has no commitments and wants to have some fun - he's fun and Albie isn't. Sure, Albie is a better catch if she wants to get married but sometimes you just want to have a good time and that's okay. Do women always have to choose the better catch??

DP. But Portia having fun doesn’t make for a great story. I think the guy, in tandem with the uncle and his posse, will just use Portia as an in to Tanya. To get money or whatever or is they want.

Maybe that's the point - not everyone that just wants to have some fun has an ulterior motive.

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Anonymous wrote:I think we will find out there was some kind of incident between Cameron and Ethan when they were roommates. Maybe some kind of hazing ritual, or Cameron doing something really awful while drunk, or maybe something worse. One theory I have is that Ethan is bi and Cameron suspected it, came onto Ethan in order to get it confirmed, and then Cameron revealed it was all a ruse to find out if Ethan would be into it and now Cameron uses this incident as silent blackmail against Ethan. And maybe that's why Ethan didn't feel like he could bail on the night with Ethan while the girls were gone, and why he is following "bro code" and not just telling Harper what happened since he didn't do anything wrong.

But I also think Harper is very sharp and might be sniffing this out. She has already noticed that Ethan acts different around Cameron and she knows he lied about the night with Cameron, but she's being very methodical in how she draws it out of him. I think she might intuitively understand the whole situation but she knows that the only way to protect her marriage is if Ethan tells her himself. I think she'd be fine with him being bi and also more than happy to help Ethan find a way to flip the tables on Cameron, but she needs Ethan to come clean with her, not just about the night at the hotel but about his whole past with Cameron.

I could be totally off base but that's how I'm reading what appears to be obvious subtext in that relationship.

Given what we know about Harper, she may be bi too - and I don't think she'd care if her husband is bi. She might care if he's cheating - or they might have some arrangement - but I don't think him being bi would faze her one bit.

Clearly she's got a heightened something around Cameron - she seems to loathe him and also to be titillated by him. I think if it's just that he and Ethan had a thing in college, she'd be relieved.

I disagree. For her character, faithfulness seems paramount. She is deeply upset by infidelity. It seems to be her deal breaker. She's also Puerto Rican, likely Catholic where infidelity is a 'sin'. I do not think she'd be okay with a 'bi' husband and certainly isn't going to condone gay sex behind her back.

She does want a man to want her and, even though she strongly protests, she is very jealous of Daphne and the way Cameron is into her and shows her physical affection, etc.

The bed scene with Portia at the end seemed foreboding. It looked like she was about to protest/not give consent. I think in that split second she was having second thoughts. I think that scene will end up being a 'date rape' thing.

I hope not! The thing I like about this season is the theme of having fun. And I would hate for all the fun to be portrayed as bad (like when Lucia says to Cameron "Let's fun!)

Portia is young, has no commitments and wants to have some fun - he's fun and Albie isn't. Sure, Albie is a better catch if she wants to get married but sometimes you just want to have a good time and that's okay. Do women always have to choose the better catch??

DP. But Portia having fun doesn’t make for a great story. I think the guy, in tandem with the uncle and his posse, will just use Portia as an in to Tanya. To get money or whatever or is they want.

Do you think Greg is involved with that posse? Is it possible he didn’t want Portia to come so bad because she might mess up the grand plan. Now they are using her to their advantage?

[Anonymous]

I think Ethan secretly wants to divorce Harper. Maybe he got rich and lost interest in her, but he obviously has no interest in her sexuality and doesn’t even like her as a person.
Harper is really trying and looks like she suspected they have trouble in their marriage before, hence constant comparison “we are fine” etc. but this vacation really showed her the flaws in the marriage.

As we know with this show usually people don’t change and if they survive they probably will go back to what they were-miserable couple.
Or this season might have a different dinamic if alltogether.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we will find out there was some kind of incident between Cameron and Ethan when they were roommates. Maybe some kind of hazing ritual, or Cameron doing something really awful while drunk, or maybe something worse. One theory I have is that Ethan is bi and Cameron suspected it, came onto Ethan in order to get it confirmed, and then Cameron revealed it was all a ruse to find out if Ethan would be into it and now Cameron uses this incident as silent blackmail against Ethan. And maybe that's why Ethan didn't feel like he could bail on the night with Ethan while the girls were gone, and why he is following "bro code" and not just telling Harper what happened since he didn't do anything wrong.

But I also think Harper is very sharp and might be sniffing this out. She has already noticed that Ethan acts different around Cameron and she knows he lied about the night with Cameron, but she's being very methodical in how she draws it out of him. I think she might intuitively understand the whole situation but she knows that the only way to protect her marriage is if Ethan tells her himself. I think she'd be fine with him being bi and also more than happy to help Ethan find a way to flip the tables on Cameron, but she needs Ethan to come clean with her, not just about the night at the hotel but about his whole past with Cameron.

I could be totally off base but that's how I'm reading what appears to be obvious subtext in that relationship.

I watched the interview with all the actors and Theo said that Greg is the nastiest character on that show. So… might be something we don’t know yet.

Given what we know about Harper, she may be bi too - and I don't think she'd care if her husband is bi. She might care if he's cheating - or they might have some arrangement - but I don't think him being bi would faze her one bit.

Clearly she's got a heightened something around Cameron - she seems to loathe him and also to be titillated by him. I think if it's just that he and Ethan had a thing in college, she'd be relieved.

I disagree. For her character, faithfulness seems paramount. She is deeply upset by infidelity. It seems to be her deal breaker. She's also Puerto Rican, likely Catholic where infidelity is a 'sin'. I do not think she'd be okay with a 'bi' husband and certainly isn't going to condone gay sex behind her back.

She does want a man to want her and, even though she strongly protests, she is very jealous of Daphne and the way Cameron is into her and shows her physical affection, etc.

The bed scene with Portia at the end seemed foreboding. It looked like she was about to protest/not give consent. I think in that split second she was having second thoughts. I think that scene will end up being a 'date rape' thing.

I hope not! The thing I like about this season is the theme of having fun. And I would hate for all the fun to be portrayed as bad (like when Lucia says to Cameron "Let's fun!)

Portia is young, has no commitments and wants to have some fun - he's fun and Albie isn't. Sure, Albie is a better catch if she wants to get married but sometimes you just want to have a good time and that's okay. Do women always have to choose the better catch??

DP. But Portia having fun doesn’t make for a great story. I think the guy, in tandem with the uncle and his posse, will just use Portia as an in to Tanya. To get money or whatever or is they want.

Do you think Greg is involved with that posse? Is it possible he didn’t want Portia to come so bad because she might mess up the grand plan. Now they are using her to their advantage?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Harper wants someone to want her. And Ethan seems so uninterested in her that she's feeling annoyed.

Cameron on the other hand (for what are surely manipulative, underhanded reasons) is letting her know that he wants her. And as she feels more and more vulnerable as her relationship which she's based her life on seems unsure / not great, she's more vulnerable to Cameron's manipulation.

Also, as much as Cameron is an uber-douche he's also hot as hell. So, you know, in a weak moment she might go for that.

The main reason I don't think this is what is going on with the Harper/Ethan/Cameron/Daphne storyline is that it would too closely parallel what is going on with Portia. Like Portia's whole deal is that she wants a guy and she's been presented with Albie but he's not alpha enough for her at the moment so she's ditching him for this other guy. If it turns out that Harper is also just annoyed that Ethan isn't alpha enough for her and winds up cheating on him with Cameron, who is super alpha, I will frankly be annoyed because this is such a trite message about men and women ("women like bad boys, nice guys can't win"). It's boring.

So for that reason I don't think that's what will happen with Harper. I do sense the tension between her and Cameron, but I think there's a lot more hate on both sides than attraction. Cameron wants to win over Harper purely for power reasons (to prove to Ethan he can, and so he can manipulate Ethan more), and Harper just genuinely dislikes Cameron and everything he stands for even if she can acknowledge he's attractive. Her actual husband is also hot as hell so I don't think she's going to be that turned around by a guy just because he has Theo James' body.

I don't think she wants Ethan to be "alpha" - I think she wants him to want to have s** with his wife. (As someone whose husband lost interest in s** several years ago, this is a painfully relatable storyline.)

Why can’t you write sex?

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Anonymous wrote:I think we will find out there was some kind of incident between Cameron and Ethan when they were roommates. Maybe some kind of hazing ritual, or Cameron doing something really awful while drunk, or maybe something worse. One theory I have is that Ethan is bi and Cameron suspected it, came onto Ethan in order to get it confirmed, and then Cameron revealed it was all a ruse to find out if Ethan would be into it and now Cameron uses this incident as silent blackmail against Ethan. And maybe that's why Ethan didn't feel like he could bail on the night with Ethan while the girls were gone, and why he is following "bro code" and not just telling Harper what happened since he didn't do anything wrong.

But I also think Harper is very sharp and might be sniffing this out. She has already noticed that Ethan acts different around Cameron and she knows he lied about the night with Cameron, but she's being very methodical in how she draws it out of him. I think she might intuitively understand the whole situation but she knows that the only way to protect her marriage is if Ethan tells her himself. I think she'd be fine with him being bi and also more than happy to help Ethan find a way to flip the tables on Cameron, but she needs Ethan to come clean with her, not just about the night at the hotel but about his whole past with Cameron.

I could be totally off base but that's how I'm reading what appears to be obvious subtext in that relationship.

I watched the interview with all the actors and Thro said that Greg is the nastiest character. So…we might not know something.
I watched the interview with all the actors and Theo said that Greg is the nastiest character on that show. So… might be something we don’t know yet.

Given what we know about Harper, she may be bi too - and I don't think she'd care if her husband is bi. She might care if he's cheating - or they might have some arrangement - but I don't think him being bi would faze her one bit.

Clearly she's got a heightened something around Cameron - she seems to loathe him and also to be titillated by him. I think if it's just that he and Ethan had a thing in college, she'd be relieved.

I disagree. For her character, faithfulness seems paramount. She is deeply upset by infidelity. It seems to be her deal breaker. She's also Puerto Rican, likely Catholic where infidelity is a 'sin'. I do not think she'd be okay with a 'bi' husband and certainly isn't going to condone gay sex behind her back.

She does want a man to want her and, even though she strongly protests, she is very jealous of Daphne and the way Cameron is into her and shows her physical affection, etc.

The bed scene with Portia at the end seemed foreboding. It looked like she was about to protest/not give consent. I think in that split second she was having second thoughts. I think that scene will end up being a 'date rape' thing.

I hope not! The thing I like about this season is the theme of having fun. And I would hate for all the fun to be portrayed as bad (like when Lucia says to Cameron "Let's fun!)

Portia is young, has no commitments and wants to have some fun - he's fun and Albie isn't. Sure, Albie is a better catch if she wants to get married but sometimes you just want to have a good time and that's okay. Do women always have to choose the better catch??

DP. But Portia having fun doesn’t make for a great story. I think the guy, in tandem with the uncle and his posse, will just use Portia as an in to Tanya. To get money or whatever or is they want.

Do you think Greg is involved with that posse? Is it possible he didn’t want Portia to come so bad because she might mess up the grand plan. Now they are using her to their advantage?

[Anonymous]

I watched the interview with all the actors and Theo said that Greg is the nastiest character on that show. So… might be something we don’t know yet.

[Anonymous]

Theo also said in the interview that “your expectations will be blown”!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think Ethan secretly wants to divorce Harper. Maybe he got rich and lost interest in her, but he obviously has no interest in her sexuality and doesn’t even like her as a person.
Harper is really trying and looks like she suspected they have trouble in their marriage before, hence constant comparison “we are fine” etc. but this vacation really showed her the flaws in the marriage.

As we know with this show usually people don’t change and if they survive they probably will go back to what they were-miserable couple.
Or this season might have a different dinamic if alltogether.

Someone earlier said the previews show Harper will get with Cameron, and then Ethan will attack Cameron underwater and possibly kill him.

I think if that happens, following the whole alpha male storyline of the show, it will "fix" Ethan and Harper's relationship. Ethan will feel powerful and Harper will feel attracted. And they will turn into the seemingly happy couple that Cameron and Daphne once were, and now Daphne will be a widow. Though, same as Cameron and Daphne, maybe Ethan and Harper won't actually like one another anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:I think Harper wants someone to want her. And Ethan seems so uninterested in her that she's feeling annoyed.

Cameron on the other hand (for what are surely manipulative, underhanded reasons) is letting her know that he wants her. And as she feels more and more vulnerable as her relationship which she's based her life on seems unsure / not great, she's more vulnerable to Cameron's manipulation.

Also, as much as Cameron is an uber-douche he's also hot as hell. So, you know, in a weak moment she might go for that.

The main reason I don't think this is what is going on with the Harper/Ethan/Cameron/Daphne storyline is that it would too closely parallel what is going on with Portia. Like Portia's whole deal is that she wants a guy and she's been presented with Albie but he's not alpha enough for her at the moment so she's ditching him for this other guy. If it turns out that Harper is also just annoyed that Ethan isn't alpha enough for her and winds up cheating on him with Cameron, who is super alpha, I will frankly be annoyed because this is such a trite message about men and women ("women like bad boys, nice guys can't win"). It's boring.

So for that reason I don't think that's what will happen with Harper. I do sense the tension between her and Cameron, but I think there's a lot more hate on both sides than attraction. Cameron wants to win over Harper purely for power reasons (to prove to Ethan he can, and so he can manipulate Ethan more), and Harper just genuinely dislikes Cameron and everything he stands for even if she can acknowledge he's attractive. Her actual husband is also hot as hell so I don't think she's going to be that turned around by a guy just because he has Theo James' body.

I don't think she wants Ethan to be "alpha" - I think she wants him to want to have s** with his wife. (As someone whose husband lost interest in s** several years ago, this is a painfully relatable storyline.)

Why can’t you write sex?

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