Sophie and Kate were best friends at the time of Kate's birthday party when the parents first realized Kevin was infatuated with S. |
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I liked this week's episode.
I also loved the bit with Kevin badly playing the guitar because it reminded me of a comedy website I read in college that had a video called "your roommate plays the indigo girls." I was delighted to find someone put it on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEvOZWhmNng |
Good episode. Nice twist with the Rebecca/Miguel relationship. And I loved Kevin's gesture to Miguel at the end. And I loved how the Rebecca/Kate relationship ended up. Maybe a little too sweet, but you see the roots of everything that has happened going all the way back to Rebecca and her mother. I'm not sure how much I buy the whole hysteria over Baby Jack getting fat, but it's clearly part of the setup to the beginning of the end of Kate's marriage. I get that Hailey doesn't have Kat and Toby's genes, but wouldn't you be equally focused on your children's diet? Loved Kevin and his annoying guitar. Hilarious. |
Agreed on all counts, thought this episode was very well done. |
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ok but with Rebecca being chastised by her Mom for eating (and the mom giving her just a sliver of pie) why isn't Rebecca fat? And, why is it Kate if Rebecca didn't make a big deal about snacking or pie or licking the spatula?
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Previous episodes have shown Rebecca trying to control Kate's diet, which was both awful and realistic. I loved seeing Kate stand up for herself and her determination to break the food-policing cycle, and it made me cringe to see Toby acknowledge genetics and to say "People are horrible to fat kids, and the solution is not to get fat, despite genetics." Yeah, Toby, and the solution to depression is to buck up and look on the bright side. Or, you know, you could be supportive of people and treat everyone as having value. Really disliking Toby, maybe for the first time. |
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I liked the episode. As always, Beth Pearson had the best lines:
“Aw baby, I love your heart. Dig your ambition. But the Pearson epitaph will read: ‘Lovely people, cried a lot, dramatic as hell Thanksgivings.'” |
Toby made serious lifestyle changes, focused on healthy diet and exercise, to lose a significant amount of weight. I think it's reasonable for him to suggest attention to diet and exercise would be beneficial for the kids, as someone who's been on both sides. Kate may have been dealt a worse genetic hand, but she doesn't seem particularly attentive to diet and exercise concerns. |
Jack's first food was avocado. Kate made sure he got a little of everything for his Thanksgiving dinner. Toby has spent the trip freaking out about sugar, subscribing to the myth that sugar makes kids hyper, and his idea of a great way to bond the family is to drop $$$ on a Big Green Egg. So who has the healthy relationship with food, again? |
I've never liked Toby-- too much over-the-top, super hero Jack energy for my liking. That was probably what drew Kate to him. I love Kate's character development and was thrilled Rebecca picked her as the understudy to Miguel's role as captain. Their tightening relationship the last two seasons has been great. The distance relationship while parenting dynamic hits close to home. The show nailed it so well. The sensitivity/guilt of the absent parent combined with disruption or questioning of parenting routines is really, really tough. The best part of the episode was the Miguel/Rebecca backstory. I think we could all surmise that Miguel had fallen in love with Rebecca and chose to distance himself as a result. The fact that Rebecca was so devastated by that was a wonderful surprise. And finally, what the heck is a sugar pie??? A flan, a tarte, a cheesecake, what? And what is the secret ingredient? FTR, my guess is almond extract. |
I don't think Toby was being totally honest in his criticism about sugar. I'm sure weight gain is a part of it, but it felt more like he was parroting back the hyperactivity criticism he got from Kate when kept the kids from their normal nap schedule during the last visit. He was still feeling bad about his previous screw up so threw the same words back at her. Note that when he first complained about what the kids were eating, he focused on hyperactivity. It was only later, in the calm after dinner, that he tried to shift his rationale to weight. |
| Interesting that Miguel and Kate are given the role of decision makers during Rebecca's decline, but neither have been shown at the "deathbed" scene. |
It seems to be a variation on a chess pie -- eggs, butter, sugar, flavoring (which would mean almond extract is a good guess) |
What drives me crazy is that it's all self inflicted! Could Toby really not find a fulfilling job in LA? We know they can live off one income, so it's not like they NEED to live with this arrangement. |
He had been out of work for quite a while and seemed to be feeling pretty desperate-- both professionally and because he was losing his mind as a SAHP. That storyline was written still in the depth of the pandemic, wasn't it, before we started to really see the economy pick up? So the calculation of what opportunities might still emerge closer to home was different than it would be today. I also think that he is loving the job, his ego is getting a big boost, so he seems less desperate to move back, which is playing into his sensitivity about being away. His guilt is making him target Kate. |