Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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Anonymous wrote:I think the consultants were given specific instructions on SOME neighborhoods. RIO people, and the Walney Oaks people who somehow got Reid to publicly promise they wouldn't be moved even though they are right next to the Westfield zone.

Dirty politics and gerrymandering at its finest. There is no scenario that shouldn’t have RIO moving to either Skyview or South Lakes (both in their backyard)

💯 That is exactly it. RIO getting special treatment. Wonder why??

Word is they paid someone off or have someone from the group working in Gatehouse. $$$$$ talks. And the Oakton community has a lot of money.

Is is the same group that made a website and raised thousands on a gofundme to fight a church that was trying to build afford housing on their own land?

I've no idea? But the plans for that housing had one egress going between daycare parking and the daycare. The other egress went out into a residential culdesac in Frankin Farm. Lots of valid complaints that would also cut trees along Parkway. Totally different issue.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Navy parent with an older kid who is completely indifferent about the move to Chantilly. They are both great schools. And for all of the talk of community, my child is in middle school with a lot of kids who will go to Chantilly. So it is hard to make friends and know you won't see them in high school. But if Navy gets zoned out of Oakton, then Crossfield should as well. It would make no sense to leave Crossfield there.

Crossfield mounted a huge defense and a website. They’re not only successfully petitioned to stay at Oakton, but also now have successfully been given permission to come to Franklin MS, even though Carson is closer to them. They now don’t want Carson because Carson will feed to Skyview.

How do you know they have been successful?

Looking at the options from XYZ, it appears that they just moved pieces around with no understanding at all of the purpose and results.

Because each of their 3 scenarios has them going to Franklin MS. None left them at Carson.

It’s also on their own Rooted in Oakton website. They specifically asked to be moved to Franklin MS so their cohort could remain whole and move together with more kids to Oakton to continue their “community.”

Setting aside how annoying the RIO group is, it does make sense for them to move to Franklin if they are staying at Oakton. Shifting schools moving to Skyview between Franklin and Carson to limit split feeders is a logical thing to do.

Except in doing that, they will displace Navy families who are also going to Oakton HS and Chantilly HS. One of the scenarios has Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and then back to Oakton HS, as well as Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and Chantilly HS. So Navy will now feed into 2 middle schools all so Crossfield can go to one MS (Franklin) and stay together at Oakton HS. Does that sound fair to you?

Right now Crossfield is split between 3 middle schools Franklin - Hughes - Carson and 3 high schools. In the new scenarios, it still splits between into Franklin and Hughes. Everyone ripping on Crossfield but what you're calling unfair is what we've been doing for years.

There is only one neighborhood that goes to Hughes from Crossfield and you know it. They are totally isolated over at Hughes. All of their friends are at Carson.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Navy parent with an older kid who is completely indifferent about the move to Chantilly. They are both great schools. And for all of the talk of community, my child is in middle school with a lot of kids who will go to Chantilly. So it is hard to make friends and know you won't see them in high school. But if Navy gets zoned out of Oakton, then Crossfield should as well. It would make no sense to leave Crossfield there.

Crossfield mounted a huge defense and a website. They’re not only successfully petitioned to stay at Oakton, but also now have successfully been given permission to come to Franklin MS, even though Carson is closer to them. They now don’t want Carson because Carson will feed to Skyview.

How do you know they have been successful?

Looking at the options from XYZ, it appears that they just moved pieces around with no understanding at all of the purpose and results.

Because each of their 3 scenarios has them going to Franklin MS. None left them at Carson.

It’s also on their own Rooted in Oakton website. They specifically asked to be moved to Franklin MS so their cohort could remain whole and move together with more kids to Oakton to continue their “community.”

Setting aside how annoying the RIO group is, it does make sense for them to move to Franklin if they are staying at Oakton. Shifting schools moving to Skyview between Franklin and Carson to limit split feeders is a logical thing to do.

Except in doing that, they will displace Navy families who are also going to Oakton HS and Chantilly HS. One of the scenarios has Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and then back to Oakton HS, as well as Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and Chantilly HS. So Navy will now feed into 2 middle schools all so Crossfield can go to one MS (Franklin) and stay together at Oakton HS. Does that sound fair to you?

Currently, Navy is a split feeder. Most kids go to Oakton, but some closer to Chantilly attend Chantilly. Draft 2 has this split happening earlier, with the Chantilly middle school, Rocky Run. That makes sense for the kids who are currently bound for Chantilly, doesn't it? The problem is the kids zoned for Oakton being redirected to Rocky Run. Seems like that could be corrected, even with Crossfield at Oakton.

For some reason, Draft 2 has Crossfield kids who are zoned to South Lakes being moved to Franklin for middle school, but remaining at South Lakes for HS. If those kids are not moved to Franklin, but remain zoned to Hughes, there should be no need to "displace" Navy. Navy kids zoned for Oakton HS could stay at Franklin.

It could but they could literally be starting middle school with no one if most of their friends are Oakton HS friends. It’s hard enough at a split feeder. But at least at Franklin they were with familiar peers and could meet new kids going to Chantilly HS. There’s a nice balance of Oakton and Chantilly kids now at Franklin which helps tremendously with the branch ioff to a different high school. But I agree that scenario is the least disruptive. If we truly want to fix the split feeder at Navy though, moving Navy kids who currently go to Oakton over to Chantilly actually makes more sense location wise.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Navy parent with an older kid who is completely indifferent about the move to Chantilly. They are both great schools. And for all of the talk of community, my child is in middle school with a lot of kids who will go to Chantilly. So it is hard to make friends and know you won't see them in high school. But if Navy gets zoned out of Oakton, then Crossfield should as well. It would make no sense to leave Crossfield there.

Crossfield mounted a huge defense and a website. They’re not only successfully petitioned to stay at Oakton, but also now have successfully been given permission to come to Franklin MS, even though Carson is closer to them. They now don’t want Carson because Carson will feed to Skyview.

How do you know they have been successful?

Looking at the options from XYZ, it appears that they just moved pieces around with no understanding at all of the purpose and results.

Because each of their 3 scenarios has them going to Franklin MS. None left them at Carson.

It’s also on their own Rooted in Oakton website. They specifically asked to be moved to Franklin MS so their cohort could remain whole and move together with more kids to Oakton to continue their “community.”

Setting aside how annoying the RIO group is, it does make sense for them to move to Franklin if they are staying at Oakton. Shifting schools moving to Skyview between Franklin and Carson to limit split feeders is a logical thing to do.

Except in doing that, they will displace Navy families who are also going to Oakton HS and Chantilly HS. One of the scenarios has Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and then back to Oakton HS, as well as Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and Chantilly HS. So Navy will now feed into 2 middle schools all so Crossfield can go to one MS (Franklin) and stay together at Oakton HS. Does that sound fair to you?

Right now Crossfield is split between 3 middle schools Franklin - Hughes - Carson and 3 high schools. In the new scenarios, it still splits between into Franklin and Hughes. Everyone ripping on Crossfield but what you're calling unfair is what we've been doing for years.

There is only one neighborhood that goes to Hughes from Crossfield and you know it. They are totally isolated over at Hughes. All of their friends are at Carson.

Didn’t that neighborhood fight to stay at Hughes/South Lakes during the boundary review? They tried to get moved to Hunters Woods because they’re mostly isolated from the rest of the Crossfield boundaries (even though the school is in their backyard.)

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Navy parent with an older kid who is completely indifferent about the move to Chantilly. They are both great schools. And for all of the talk of community, my child is in middle school with a lot of kids who will go to Chantilly. So it is hard to make friends and know you won't see them in high school. But if Navy gets zoned out of Oakton, then Crossfield should as well. It would make no sense to leave Crossfield there.

Crossfield mounted a huge defense and a website. They’re not only successfully petitioned to stay at Oakton, but also now have successfully been given permission to come to Franklin MS, even though Carson is closer to them. They now don’t want Carson because Carson will feed to Skyview.

How do you know they have been successful?

Looking at the options from XYZ, it appears that they just moved pieces around with no understanding at all of the purpose and results.

I can remember when some in that neighborhood fought to be sent to South Lakes. Others fought to stay at Oakton. It was ugly.

Because each of their 3 scenarios has them going to Franklin MS. None left them at Carson.

It’s also on their own Rooted in Oakton website. They specifically asked to be moved to Franklin MS so their cohort could remain whole and move together with more kids to Oakton to continue their “community.”

Setting aside how annoying the RIO group is, it does make sense for them to move to Franklin if they are staying at Oakton. Shifting schools moving to Skyview between Franklin and Carson to limit split feeders is a logical thing to do.

Except in doing that, they will displace Navy families who are also going to Oakton HS and Chantilly HS. One of the scenarios has Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and then back to Oakton HS, as well as Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and Chantilly HS. So Navy will now feed into 2 middle schools all so Crossfield can go to one MS (Franklin) and stay together at Oakton HS. Does that sound fair to you?

Right now Crossfield is split between 3 middle schools Franklin - Hughes - Carson and 3 high schools. In the new scenarios, it still splits between into Franklin and Hughes. Everyone ripping on Crossfield but what you're calling unfair is what we've been doing for years.

There is only one neighborhood that goes to Hughes from Crossfield and you know it. They are totally isolated over at Hughes. All of their friends are at Carson.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Navy parent with an older kid who is completely indifferent about the move to Chantilly. They are both great schools. And for all of the talk of community, my child is in middle school with a lot of kids who will go to Chantilly. So it is hard to make friends and know you won't see them in high school. But if Navy gets zoned out of Oakton, then Crossfield should as well. It would make no sense to leave Crossfield there.

Crossfield mounted a huge defense and a website. They’re not only successfully petitioned to stay at Oakton, but also now have successfully been given permission to come to Franklin MS, even though Carson is closer to them. They now don’t want Carson because Carson will feed to Skyview.

How do you know they have been successful?

Looking at the options from XYZ, it appears that they just moved pieces around with no understanding at all of the purpose and results.

Because each of their 3 scenarios has them going to Franklin MS. None left them at Carson.

It’s also on their own Rooted in Oakton website. They specifically asked to be moved to Franklin MS so their cohort could remain whole and move together with more kids to Oakton to continue their “community.”

Setting aside how annoying the RIO group is, it does make sense for them to move to Franklin if they are staying at Oakton. Shifting schools moving to Skyview between Franklin and Carson to limit split feeders is a logical thing to do.

Except in doing that, they will displace Navy families who are also going to Oakton HS and Chantilly HS. One of the scenarios has Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and then back to Oakton HS, as well as Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and Chantilly HS. So Navy will now feed into 2 middle schools all so Crossfield can go to one MS (Franklin) and stay together at Oakton HS. Does that sound fair to you?

Right now Crossfield is split between 3 middle schools Franklin - Hughes - Carson and 3 high schools. In the new scenarios, it still splits between into Franklin and Hughes. Everyone ripping on Crossfield but what you're calling unfair is what we've been doing for years.

There is only one neighborhood that goes to Hughes from Crossfield and you know it. They are totally isolated over at Hughes. All of their friends are at Carson.

I think we're on the same side here.. Crossfield should stay together, unless you're saying those kids like being isolated at Hughes

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Navy parent with an older kid who is completely indifferent about the move to Chantilly. They are both great schools. And for all of the talk of community, my child is in middle school with a lot of kids who will go to Chantilly. So it is hard to make friends and know you won't see them in high school. But if Navy gets zoned out of Oakton, then Crossfield should as well. It would make no sense to leave Crossfield there.

Crossfield mounted a huge defense and a website. They’re not only successfully petitioned to stay at Oakton, but also now have successfully been given permission to come to Franklin MS, even though Carson is closer to them. They now don’t want Carson because Carson will feed to Skyview.

I’m actually more impressed with what Lees Corner has been able to put together in much less time. They also have a stronger argument.

Keeping Crossfield at Oakton is causing messy boundaries elsewhere. Had Lees Corner been involved in that first round of maps, I don’t think Crossfield would have been catered to so much. I wonder if the school board regrets giving them so much influence now.

The problem Lees Corner has is that there isn't another logical group to move to Westfield in their stead. So they have a good argument, but everyone else has a better argument.

The problem Lees Corner has is that Walney Rd got moved to Westfield first and successfully convinced Reid not to move them. Lees Corner’s burden is being the next most low hanging fruit with no other branches to divert attention to.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Navy parent with an older kid who is completely indifferent about the move to Chantilly. They are both great schools. And for all of the talk of community, my child is in middle school with a lot of kids who will go to Chantilly. So it is hard to make friends and know you won't see them in high school. But if Navy gets zoned out of Oakton, then Crossfield should as well. It would make no sense to leave Crossfield there.

That they did. It’s the Fox Mill Woods neighborhood.

Crossfield mounted a huge defense and a website. They’re not only successfully petitioned to stay at Oakton, but also now have successfully been given permission to come to Franklin MS, even though Carson is closer to them. They now don’t want Carson because Carson will feed to Skyview.

How do you know they have been successful?

Looking at the options from XYZ, it appears that they just moved pieces around with no understanding at all of the purpose and results.

Because each of their 3 scenarios has them going to Franklin MS. None left them at Carson.

It’s also on their own Rooted in Oakton website. They specifically asked to be moved to Franklin MS so their cohort could remain whole and move together with more kids to Oakton to continue their “community.”

Setting aside how annoying the RIO group is, it does make sense for them to move to Franklin if they are staying at Oakton. Shifting schools moving to Skyview between Franklin and Carson to limit split feeders is a logical thing to do.

Except in doing that, they will displace Navy families who are also going to Oakton HS and Chantilly HS. One of the scenarios has Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and then back to Oakton HS, as well as Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and Chantilly HS. So Navy will now feed into 2 middle schools all so Crossfield can go to one MS (Franklin) and stay together at Oakton HS. Does that sound fair to you?

Right now Crossfield is split between 3 middle schools Franklin - Hughes - Carson and 3 high schools. In the new scenarios, it still splits between into Franklin and Hughes. Everyone ripping on Crossfield but what you're calling unfair is what we've been doing for years.

There is only one neighborhood that goes to Hughes from Crossfield and you know it. They are totally isolated over at Hughes. All of their friends are at Carson.

Didn’t that neighborhood fight to stay at Hughes/South Lakes during the boundary review? They tried to get moved to Hunters Woods because they’re mostly isolated from the rest of the Crossfield boundaries (even though the school is in their backyard.)

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Navy parent with an older kid who is completely indifferent about the move to Chantilly. They are both great schools. And for all of the talk of community, my child is in middle school with a lot of kids who will go to Chantilly. So it is hard to make friends and know you won't see them in high school. But if Navy gets zoned out of Oakton, then Crossfield should as well. It would make no sense to leave Crossfield there.

Crossfield mounted a huge defense and a website. They’re not only successfully petitioned to stay at Oakton, but also now have successfully been given permission to come to Franklin MS, even though Carson is closer to them. They now don’t want Carson because Carson will feed to Skyview.

How do you know they have been successful?

Looking at the options from XYZ, it appears that they just moved pieces around with no understanding at all of the purpose and results.

Because each of their 3 scenarios has them going to Franklin MS. None left them at Carson.

It’s also on their own Rooted in Oakton website. They specifically asked to be moved to Franklin MS so their cohort could remain whole and move together with more kids to Oakton to continue their “community.”

Setting aside how annoying the RIO group is, it does make sense for them to move to Franklin if they are staying at Oakton. Shifting schools moving to Skyview between Franklin and Carson to limit split feeders is a logical thing to do.

Except in doing that, they will displace Navy families who are also going to Oakton HS and Chantilly HS. One of the scenarios has Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and then back to Oakton HS, as well as Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and Chantilly HS. So Navy will now feed into 2 middle schools all so Crossfield can go to one MS (Franklin) and stay together at Oakton HS. Does that sound fair to you?

Right now Crossfield is split between 3 middle schools Franklin - Hughes - Carson and 3 high schools. In the new scenarios, it still splits between into Franklin and Hughes. Everyone ripping on Crossfield but what you're calling unfair is what we've been doing for years.

There is only one neighborhood that goes to Hughes from Crossfield and you know it. They are totally isolated over at Hughes. All of their friends are at Carson.

I think we're on the same side here.. Crossfield should stay together, unless you're saying those kids like being isolated at Hughes

Sure but not by moving all of Crossfield to Franklin MS and displacing Navy families. Currently Navy elementary feeds 100% to Franklin MS. Our elementary is already a split feeder to 2 high schools. We are used to that. Now we are faced with yet another split feeder in middle school all becuase Crossfield wants to move to Franklin MS? I don’t get why Crossfield can’t remain zoned to Carson. Crossfield can handle split feeder middle schools because won’t they all join back again for high school? Navy never gets to do that.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Navy parent with an older kid who is completely indifferent about the move to Chantilly. They are both great schools. And for all of the talk of community, my child is in middle school with a lot of kids who will go to Chantilly. So it is hard to make friends and know you won't see them in high school. But if Navy gets zoned out of Oakton, then Crossfield should as well. It would make no sense to leave Crossfield there.

Crossfield - Franklin/Carson - Oakton.

Hughes has nothing to do with Crossfiled Oakton.

Crossfield mounted a huge defense and a website. They’re not only successfully petitioned to stay at Oakton, but also now have successfully been given permission to come to Franklin MS, even though Carson is closer to them. They now don’t want Carson because Carson will feed to Skyview.

How do you know they have been successful?

Looking at the options from XYZ, it appears that they just moved pieces around with no understanding at all of the purpose and results.

Because each of their 3 scenarios has them going to Franklin MS. None left them at Carson.

It’s also on their own Rooted in Oakton website. They specifically asked to be moved to Franklin MS so their cohort could remain whole and move together with more kids to Oakton to continue their “community.”

Setting aside how annoying the RIO group is, it does make sense for them to move to Franklin if they are staying at Oakton. Shifting schools moving to Skyview between Franklin and Carson to limit split feeders is a logical thing to do.

Except in doing that, they will displace Navy families who are also going to Oakton HS and Chantilly HS. One of the scenarios has Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and then back to Oakton HS, as well as Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and Chantilly HS. So Navy will now feed into 2 middle schools all so Crossfield can go to one MS (Franklin) and stay together at Oakton HS. Does that sound fair to you?

Right now Crossfield is split between 3 middle schools Franklin - Hughes - Carson and 3 high schools. In the new scenarios, it still splits between into Franklin and Hughes. Everyone ripping on Crossfield but what you're calling unfair is what we've been doing for years.

There is only one neighborhood that goes to Hughes from Crossfield and you know it. They are totally isolated over at Hughes. All of their friends are at Carson.

I think we're on the same side here.. Crossfield should stay together, unless you're saying those kids like being isolated at Hughes

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Navy parent with an older kid who is completely indifferent about the move to Chantilly. They are both great schools. And for all of the talk of community, my child is in middle school with a lot of kids who will go to Chantilly. So it is hard to make friends and know you won't see them in high school. But if Navy gets zoned out of Oakton, then Crossfield should as well. It would make no sense to leave Crossfield there.

Crossfield/ Oakton had nothing to do with Hughes.

Crossfield mounted a huge defense and a website. They’re not only successfully petitioned to stay at Oakton, but also now have successfully been given permission to come to Franklin MS, even though Carson is closer to them. They now don’t want Carson because Carson will feed to Skyview.

How do you know they have been successful?

Looking at the options from XYZ, it appears that they just moved pieces around with no understanding at all of the purpose and results.

Because each of their 3 scenarios has them going to Franklin MS. None left them at Carson.

It’s also on their own Rooted in Oakton website. They specifically asked to be moved to Franklin MS so their cohort could remain whole and move together with more kids to Oakton to continue their “community.”

Setting aside how annoying the RIO group is, it does make sense for them to move to Franklin if they are staying at Oakton. Shifting schools moving to Skyview between Franklin and Carson to limit split feeders is a logical thing to do.

Except in doing that, they will displace Navy families who are also going to Oakton HS and Chantilly HS. One of the scenarios has Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and then back to Oakton HS, as well as Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and Chantilly HS. So Navy will now feed into 2 middle schools all so Crossfield can go to one MS (Franklin) and stay together at Oakton HS. Does that sound fair to you?

Right now Crossfield is split between 3 middle schools Franklin - Hughes - Carson and 3 high schools. In the new scenarios, it still splits between into Franklin and Hughes. Everyone ripping on Crossfield but what you're calling unfair is what we've been doing for years.

There is only one neighborhood that goes to Hughes from Crossfield and you know it. They are totally isolated over at Hughes. All of their friends are at Carson.

I think we're on the same side here.. Crossfield should stay together, unless you're saying those kids like being isolated at Hughes

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Navy parent with an older kid who is completely indifferent about the move to Chantilly. They are both great schools. And for all of the talk of community, my child is in middle school with a lot of kids who will go to Chantilly. So it is hard to make friends and know you won't see them in high school. But if Navy gets zoned out of Oakton, then Crossfield should as well. It would make no sense to leave Crossfield there.

Crossfield mounted a huge defense and a website. They’re not only successfully petitioned to stay at Oakton, but also now have successfully been given permission to come to Franklin MS, even though Carson is closer to them. They now don’t want Carson because Carson will feed to Skyview.

How do you know they have been successful?

Looking at the options from XYZ, it appears that they just moved pieces around with no understanding at all of the purpose and results.

Because each of their 3 scenarios has them going to Franklin MS. None left them at Carson.

It’s also on their own Rooted in Oakton website. They specifically asked to be moved to Franklin MS so their cohort could remain whole and move together with more kids to Oakton to continue their “community.”

Setting aside how annoying the RIO group is, it does make sense for them to move to Franklin if they are staying at Oakton. Shifting schools moving to Skyview between Franklin and Carson to limit split feeders is a logical thing to do.

Except in doing that, they will displace Navy families who are also going to Oakton HS and Chantilly HS. One of the scenarios has Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and then back to Oakton HS, as well as Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and Chantilly HS. So Navy will now feed into 2 middle schools all so Crossfield can go to one MS (Franklin) and stay together at Oakton HS. Does that sound fair to you?

Right now Crossfield is split between 3 middle schools Franklin - Hughes - Carson and 3 high schools. In the new scenarios, it still splits between into Franklin and Hughes. Everyone ripping on Crossfield but what you're calling unfair is what we've been doing for years.

There is only one neighborhood that goes to Hughes from Crossfield and you know it. They are totally isolated over at Hughes. All of their friends are at Carson.

I think we're on the same side here.. Crossfield should stay together, unless you're saying those kids like being isolated at Hughes

Sure but not by moving all of Crossfield to Franklin MS and displacing Navy families. Currently Navy elementary feeds 100% to Franklin MS. Our elementary is already a split feeder to 2 high schools. We are used to that. Now we are faced with yet another split feeder in middle school all becuase Crossfield wants to move to Franklin MS? I don’t get why Crossfield can’t remain zoned to Carson. Crossfield can handle split feeder middle schools because won’t they all join back again for high school? Navy never gets to do that.

No they don't get to do that... Hughes goes to South Lakes, Carson goes to Oakton, Franklin goes to Chantilly... With the new scenarios Franklin goes to Westfield, Franklin goes to South Lakes, and Franklin goes to Oakton or Skyview

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Navy parent with an older kid who is completely indifferent about the move to Chantilly. They are both great schools. And for all of the talk of community, my child is in middle school with a lot of kids who will go to Chantilly. So it is hard to make friends and know you won't see them in high school. But if Navy gets zoned out of Oakton, then Crossfield should as well. It would make no sense to leave Crossfield there.

Crossfield mounted a huge defense and a website. They’re not only successfully petitioned to stay at Oakton, but also now have successfully been given permission to come to Franklin MS, even though Carson is closer to them. They now don’t want Carson because Carson will feed to Skyview.

I’m actually more impressed with what Lees Corner has been able to put together in much less time. They also have a stronger argument.

Keeping Crossfield at Oakton is causing messy boundaries elsewhere. Had Lees Corner been involved in that first round of maps, I don’t think Crossfield would have been catered to so much. I wonder if the school board regrets giving them so much influence now.

The problem Lees Corner has is that there isn't another logical group to move to Westfield in their stead. So they have a good argument, but everyone else has a better argument.

Not a Lee's Corner family here: you are dead wrong. I don't know how you can claim that there is not a more logical group to move to Westfield. Cub Run/Chantilly, for one. (And, there is new construction in that area.) After that, Bull Run.

The logical move to Westfield would be part time academies taking up space in C hantilly. SPED centers like Kilmer Center show up on CIPs as gross square bricks and mortar footage and net of SPED centers. FCPS does not do that for HS academies whose out of boundary except for Edison STEM are not counted in membership

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Navy parent with an older kid who is completely indifferent about the move to Chantilly. They are both great schools. And for all of the talk of community, my child is in middle school with a lot of kids who will go to Chantilly. So it is hard to make friends and know you won't see them in high school. But if Navy gets zoned out of Oakton, then Crossfield should as well. It would make no sense to leave Crossfield there.

Crossfield mounted a huge defense and a website. They’re not only successfully petitioned to stay at Oakton, but also now have successfully been given permission to come to Franklin MS, even though Carson is closer to them. They now don’t want Carson because Carson will feed to Skyview.

I’m actually more impressed with what Lees Corner has been able to put together in much less time. They also have a stronger argument.

Keeping Crossfield at Oakton is causing messy boundaries elsewhere. Had Lees Corner been involved in that first round of maps, I don’t think Crossfield would have been catered to so much. I wonder if the school board regrets giving them so much influence now.

The problem Lees Corner has is that there isn't another logical group to move to Westfield in their stead. So they have a good argument, but everyone else has a better argument.

Westfield will just have to stay under capacity. Or move more kids from Franklin Farm to Skyview and let more Westfield kids stay at Westfield. But you don’t uproot an entire community (Lees Corner) that is in walking distance of Chantilly HS to backfill Westfield HS all because one group refuses to move from their beloved Oakton which is literally 9 miles away from them.

Well, certainly this can happen, as its one of 2 out of 3 suggested versions.

If you don't live in Lees Corner, the suggestion seems very reasonable. I think the CVHS people who are much farther away should get to stay, and you should have to move if those are the only two options on the table. But I also agree with you that the RIO people should be sent much closer to their house (South Lakes or Skyview). It seems less disruptive to not move half of Westfield over to Skyview because there aren't any natural areas to move to Westfield (except that one part of Cub Run). Keep some of the current kids at Westfield and fill Skyview with Franklin Farm.

What current kids... Coates? Floris? McNair? You have to be kidding.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Navy parent with an older kid who is completely indifferent about the move to Chantilly. They are both great schools. And for all of the talk of community, my child is in middle school with a lot of kids who will go to Chantilly. So it is hard to make friends and know you won't see them in high school. But if Navy gets zoned out of Oakton, then Crossfield should as well. It would make no sense to leave Crossfield there.

Crossfield mounted a huge defense and a website. They’re not only successfully petitioned to stay at Oakton, but also now have successfully been given permission to come to Franklin MS, even though Carson is closer to them. They now don’t want Carson because Carson will feed to Skyview.

How do you know they have been successful?

Looking at the options from XYZ, it appears that they just moved pieces around with no understanding at all of the purpose and results.

Because each of their 3 scenarios has them going to Franklin MS. None left them at Carson.

It’s also on their own Rooted in Oakton website. They specifically asked to be moved to Franklin MS so their cohort could remain whole and move together with more kids to Oakton to continue their “community.”

Setting aside how annoying the RIO group is, it does make sense for them to move to Franklin if they are staying at Oakton. Shifting schools moving to Skyview between Franklin and Carson to limit split feeders is a logical thing to do.

Except in doing that, they will displace Navy families who are also going to Oakton HS and Chantilly HS. One of the scenarios has Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and then back to Oakton HS, as well as Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and Chantilly HS. So Navy will now feed into 2 middle schools all so Crossfield can go to one MS (Franklin) and stay together at Oakton HS. Does that sound fair to you?

Right now Crossfield is split between 3 middle schools Franklin - Hughes - Carson and 3 high schools. In the new scenarios, it still splits between into Franklin and Hughes. Everyone ripping on Crossfield but what you're calling unfair is what we've been doing for years.

There is only one neighborhood that goes to Hughes from Crossfield and you know it. They are totally isolated over at Hughes. All of their friends are at Carson.

I think we're on the same side here.. Crossfield should stay together, unless you're saying those kids like being isolated at Hughes

Sure but not by moving all of Crossfield to Franklin MS and displacing Navy families. Currently Navy elementary feeds 100% to Franklin MS. Our elementary is already a split feeder to 2 high schools. We are used to that. Now we are faced with yet another split feeder in middle school all becuase Crossfield wants to move to Franklin MS? I don’t get why Crossfield can’t remain zoned to Carson. Crossfield can handle split feeder middle schools because won’t they all join back again for high school? Navy never gets to do that.

No they don't get to do that... Hughes goes to South Lakes, Carson goes to Oakton, Franklin goes to Chantilly... With the new scenarios Franklin goes to Westfield, Franklin goes to South Lakes, and Franklin goes to Oakton or Skyview

I don't see that scenario at all. Which one sends Franklin to South Lakes or Westfield?

And, as to Lee's Corner, I think what a lot of people are missing is that there is a very large gap on the map that has no housing but lots of traffic and traffic lights.