New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

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Anonymous wrote:My guess is they’ll talk about playoffs (GA and ECNL) again in their next podcast. But yeah, they seemed to agree that the ECNL had good teams after those top teams and the GA did not. But maybe things have changed over the past year?

Those coaches are really experienced coaches!

this is correct. outside of about 15 GA clubs, the quality drops off significantly. it is just the way it is right now.

The quality of every league increases over time. Also every league has the top performers then generally everyone else.

Its not like the bottom half of GA is any different then the bottom half of ECNL. Im sure some parents want to try and think one turd smells better then the others. The truth is they both stink.

Except that's not true - the bottom half of the GA is significantly worse than the bottom half of the ECNL. This is proven in tournaments all over the country every year where they play each other.

Bottom half of each are about the same. Both leagues probably have 2-3 teams that clearly stand out in conference and the rest are below average.

Seems like the college coaches in the video PP mentioned disagree. No offense, but I'll take their opinion over yours.

You're arguing about which team that doesn't win is "better" when it comes to the league that they play in. Step back and think about what you're saying. It doesnt matter. Take off the college scholarship goggles your clubs is selling you. If you spent as much time and money as you've spent on youth soccer your kid could easily get a scholorship in anything else.

Getting better as an individual player requires playing against the best competition available, regardless of whether your goal is a scholarship or just individual development.

It depends on what age. At u11 I'd

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Anonymous wrote:My guess is they’ll talk about playoffs (GA and ECNL) again in their next podcast. But yeah, they seemed to agree that the ECNL had good teams after those top teams and the GA did not. But maybe things have changed over the past year?

Those coaches are really experienced coaches!

this is correct. outside of about 15 GA clubs, the quality drops off significantly. it is just the way it is right now.

The quality of every league increases over time. Also every league has the top performers then generally everyone else.

Its not like the bottom half of GA is any different then the bottom half of ECNL. Im sure some parents want to try and think one turd smells better then the others. The truth is they both stink.

Except that's not true - the bottom half of the GA is significantly worse than the bottom half of the ECNL. This is proven in tournaments all over the country every year where they play each other.

Bottom half of each are about the same. Both leagues probably have 2-3 teams that clearly stand out in conference and the rest are below average.

Seems like the college coaches in the video PP mentioned disagree. No offense, but I'll take their opinion over yours.

You're arguing about which team that doesn't win is "better" when it comes to the league that they play in. Step back and think about what you're saying. It doesnt matter. Take off the college scholarship goggles your clubs is selling you. If you spent as much time and money as you've spent on youth soccer your kid could easily get a scholorship in anything else.

Getting better as an individual player requires playing against the best competition available, regardless of whether your goal is a scholarship or just individual development.

It depends on what age. At u11 I'd

It depends on what age. At u11 I'd agree that it doesnt matter. However if the team doesnt win by u14 the trajectory is set. Your kid's team is everyone else's punching bag. This wont change as they get older.

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Anonymous wrote:My guess is they’ll talk about playoffs (GA and ECNL) again in their next podcast. But yeah, they seemed to agree that the ECNL had good teams after those top teams and the GA did not. But maybe things have changed over the past year?

Those coaches are really experienced coaches!

this is correct. outside of about 15 GA clubs, the quality drops off significantly. it is just the way it is right now.

The quality of every league increases over time. Also every league has the top performers then generally everyone else.

Its not like the bottom half of GA is any different then the bottom half of ECNL. Im sure some parents want to try and think one turd smells better then the others. The truth is they both stink.

Except that's not true - the bottom half of the GA is significantly worse than the bottom half of the ECNL. This is proven in tournaments all over the country every year where they play each other.

Bottom half of each are about the same. Both leagues probably have 2-3 teams that clearly stand out in conference and the rest are below average.

Seems like the college coaches in the video PP mentioned disagree. No offense, but I'll take their opinion over yours.

You're arguing about which team that doesn't win is "better" when it comes to the league that they play in. Step back and think about what you're saying. It doesnt matter. Take off the college scholarship goggles your clubs is selling you. If you spent as much time and money as you've spent on youth soccer your kid could easily get a scholorship in anything else.

Getting better as an individual player requires playing against the best competition available, regardless of whether your goal is a scholarship or just individual development.

Which goes back to previous posters point, EACH league and conference has 2-3 decent teams and the other 9 teams are not strong. Now some conference's are stonger than others in each league.

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Anonymous wrote:My guess is they’ll talk about playoffs (GA and ECNL) again in their next podcast. But yeah, they seemed to agree that the ECNL had good teams after those top teams and the GA did not. But maybe things have changed over the past year?

Those coaches are really experienced coaches!

this is correct. outside of about 15 GA clubs, the quality drops off significantly. it is just the way it is right now.

The quality of every league increases over time. Also every league has the top performers then generally everyone else.

Its not like the bottom half of GA is any different then the bottom half of ECNL. Im sure some parents want to try and think one turd smells better then the others. The truth is they both stink.

Except that's not true - the bottom half of the GA is significantly worse than the bottom half of the ECNL. This is proven in tournaments all over the country every year where they play each other.

100% as well as look how many are committed from each league and the turnout of the college coaches to their tournaments

GA just had their showcase and playoffs tournaments. they have to combine them cause if they had them separately, the college coach turnout would be worse. around 125 D1 college programs showed up. now ECNL is having their playoffs and over 225 PLUS will be there. huge difference which tells all you need to know.

Bottom half of each are about the same. Both leagues probably have 2-3 teams that clearly stand out in conference and the rest are below average.

Seems like the college coaches in the video PP mentioned disagree. No offense, but I'll take their opinion over yours.

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Anonymous wrote:My guess is they’ll talk about playoffs (GA and ECNL) again in their next podcast. But yeah, they seemed to agree that the ECNL had good teams after those top teams and the GA did not. But maybe things have changed over the past year?

Those coaches are really experienced coaches!

this is correct. outside of about 15 GA clubs, the quality drops off significantly. it is just the way it is right now.

The quality of every league increases over time. Also every league has the top performers then generally everyone else.

Its not like the bottom half of GA is any different then the bottom half of ECNL. Im sure some parents want to try and think one turd smells better then the others. The truth is they both stink.

Except that's not true - the bottom half of the GA is significantly worse than the bottom half of the ECNL. This is proven in tournaments all over the country every year where they play each other.

Bottom half of each are about the same. Both leagues probably have 2-3 teams that clearly stand out in conference and the rest are below average.

Seems like the college coaches in the video PP mentioned disagree. No offense, but I'll take their opinion over yours.

You're arguing about which team that doesn't win is "better" when it comes to the league that they play in. Step back and think about what you're saying. It doesnt matter. Take off the college scholarship goggles your clubs is selling you. If you spent as much time and money as you've spent on youth soccer your kid could easily get a scholorship in anything else.

Getting better as an individual player requires playing against the best competition available, regardless of whether your goal is a scholarship or just individual development.

Which goes back to previous posters point, EACH league and conference has 2-3 decent teams and the other 9 teams are not strong. Now some conference's are stonger than others in each league.

Not true if you accept the college coach's view that talent extends a lot deeper into the league in ECNL than GA. Sounds like you'll face better competition against a mid-tier ECNL team than a mid-tier GA team. Not everyone has the talent or the geographic location to play for one of the very top GA or ECNL teams. Still need to decide what the best environment for your DD to develop is. The fact that some teams in each league or conference are stronger than others isn't the point. It's where you'll get the best competition to foster development. In some areas, that might be GA. In others, ECNL. On average, most accept that RIGHT NOW the talent runs deeper into the league in ECNL. That may change, but some GA bots want to fight the premise, but only with words and not data.

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Anonymous wrote:My guess is they’ll talk about playoffs (GA and ECNL) again in their next podcast. But yeah, they seemed to agree that the ECNL had good teams after those top teams and the GA did not. But maybe things have changed over the past year?

Those coaches are really experienced coaches!

this is correct. outside of about 15 GA clubs, the quality drops off significantly. it is just the way it is right now.

The quality of every league increases over time. Also every league has the top performers then generally everyone else.

Its not like the bottom half of GA is any different then the bottom half of ECNL. Im sure some parents want to try and think one turd smells better then the others. The truth is they both stink.

Except that's not true - the bottom half of the GA is significantly worse than the bottom half of the ECNL. This is proven in tournaments all over the country every year where they play each other.

Bottom half of each are about the same. Both leagues probably have 2-3 teams that clearly stand out in conference and the rest are below average.

Seems like the college coaches in the video PP mentioned disagree. No offense, but I'll take their opinion over yours.

You're arguing about which team that doesn't win is "better" when it comes to the league that they play in. Step back and think about what you're saying. It doesnt matter. Take off the college scholarship goggles your clubs is selling you. If you spent as much time and money as you've spent on youth soccer your kid could easily get a scholorship in anything else.

Getting better as an individual player requires playing against the best competition available, regardless of whether your goal is a scholarship or just individual development.

Which goes back to previous posters point, EACH league and conference has 2-3 decent teams and the other 9 teams are not strong. Now some conference's are stonger than others in each league.

Not true if you accept the college coach's view that talent extends a lot deeper into the league in ECNL than GA. Sounds like you'll face better competition against a mid-tier ECNL team than a mid-tier GA team. Not everyone has the talent or the geographic location to play for one of the very top GA or ECNL teams. Still need to decide what the best environment for your DD to develop is. The fact that some teams in each league or conference are stronger than others isn't the point. It's where you'll get the best competition to foster development. In some areas, that might be GA. In others, ECNL. On average, most accept that RIGHT NOW the talent runs deeper into the league in ECNL. That may change, but some GA bots want to fight the premise, but only with words and not data.

It's where you'll get the best competition to foster development. -- If that were true, USYS would be winning/keeping all the talent. They lose their talent -- after developing it better than most everyone else -- because their platform can't attract the recruiters. The reality is the top dogs in GA and ECNL only stay that way because they market their platform for college recruiting. Tons of players in their clubs who played years on the top teams end up quitting/changing sports once even more highly touted players are brought in to take their places.

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Anonymous wrote:My guess is they’ll talk about playoffs (GA and ECNL) again in their next podcast. But yeah, they seemed to agree that the ECNL had good teams after those top teams and the GA did not. But maybe things have changed over the past year?

Those coaches are really experienced coaches!

this is correct. outside of about 15 GA clubs, the quality drops off significantly. it is just the way it is right now.

The quality of every league increases over time. Also every league has the top performers then generally everyone else.

Its not like the bottom half of GA is any different then the bottom half of ECNL. Im sure some parents want to try and think one turd smells better then the others. The truth is they both stink.

Except that's not true - the bottom half of the GA is significantly worse than the bottom half of the ECNL. This is proven in tournaments all over the country every year where they play each other.

Bottom half of each are about the same. Both leagues probably have 2-3 teams that clearly stand out in conference and the rest are below average.

Seems like the college coaches in the video PP mentioned disagree. No offense, but I'll take their opinion over yours.

You're arguing about which team that doesn't win is "better" when it comes to the league that they play in. Step back and think about what you're saying. It doesnt matter. Take off the college scholarship goggles your clubs is selling you. If you spent as much time and money as you've spent on youth soccer your kid could easily get a scholorship in anything else.

Getting better as an individual player requires playing against the best competition available, regardless of whether your goal is a scholarship or just individual development.

Which goes back to previous posters point, EACH league and conference has 2-3 decent teams and the other 9 teams are not strong. Now some conference's are stonger than others in each league.

Not true if you accept the college coach's view that talent extends a lot deeper into the league in ECNL than GA. Sounds like you'll face better competition against a mid-tier ECNL team than a mid-tier GA team. Not everyone has the talent or the geographic location to play for one of the very top GA or ECNL teams. Still need to decide what the best environment for your DD to develop is. The fact that some teams in each league or conference are stronger than others isn't the point. It's where you'll get the best competition to foster development. In some areas, that might be GA. In others, ECNL. On average, most accept that RIGHT NOW the talent runs deeper into the league in ECNL. That may change, but some GA bots want to fight the premise, but only with words and not data.

It's where you'll get the best competition to foster development. -- If that were true, USYS would be winning/keeping all the talent. They lose their talent -- after developing it better than most everyone else -- because their platform can't attract the recruiters. The reality is the top dogs in GA and ECNL only stay that way because they market their platform for college recruiting. Tons of players in their clubs who played years on the top teams end up quitting/changing sports once even more highly touted players are brought in to take their places.

100% agree with this! USYS put their head in the sand and didn't realize - or worse, did realize and didn't do anything about it - that at some point, college recruiting had changed and if a platform didn't give that to its players/teams, then they would find a platform that did. Frankly, ENCL and GA's power and influence over college coaches (especially on the girls side) is concerning. But USYS did nothing and now its basically dead on the top level ... it will always be there and will always "crown" a national championship, but its level is so low compared to even 4 years ago that is concerning.

[Anonymous]

GA showcase and playoff just finished. 159 D1 colleges showed up. down from 172 last year. what is happening to the GA? every time I walked by the playoff games there were coaches but the regular showcase games were barely 5-8 college coaches on the sideline watching. very worrisome

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Anonymous wrote:GA showcase and playoff just finished. 159 D1 colleges showed up. down from 172 last year. what is happening to the GA? every time I walked by the playoff games there were coaches but the regular showcase games were barely 5-8 college coaches on the sideline watching. very worrisome

Do you have that bridge in jersey still for sale? I maybe want to buy it.

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Anonymous wrote:GA showcase and playoff just finished. 159 D1 colleges showed up. down from 172 last year. what is happening to the GA? every time I walked by the playoff games there were coaches but the regular showcase games were barely 5-8 college coaches on the sideline watching. very worrisome

Actually it seems ECNL really must be worried about GA gaining ground with all these seemingly never-ending attacks.

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Anonymous wrote:GA showcase and playoff just finished. 159 D1 colleges showed up. down from 172 last year. what is happening to the GA? every time I walked by the playoff games there were coaches but the regular showcase games were barely 5-8 college coaches on the sideline watching. very worrisome

Actually it seems ECNL really must be worried about GA gaining ground with all these seemingly never-ending attacks.

hmm. interesting

https://x.com/ImYouthSoccer/status/1939020978790748277/photo/1

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Anonymous wrote:GA showcase and playoff just finished. 159 D1 colleges showed up. down from 172 last year. what is happening to the GA? every time I walked by the playoff games there were coaches but the regular showcase games were barely 5-8 college coaches on the sideline watching. very worrisome

Actually it seems ECNL really must be worried about GA gaining ground with all these seemingly never-ending attacks.

They are, its that simple. It's also why they're trying so hard to say anything negative about GA.

Here's what they're really worried about. Every player that commits from a GA club ECNL parents see as one less ECNL committment. With the new 28 player max rosters theres going to be even less spots to be had.

For girls what will happen over time is GA/ECNL will get 80%-90% of all the college players.

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Anonymous wrote:GA showcase and playoff just finished. 159 D1 colleges showed up. down from 172 last year. what is happening to the GA? every time I walked by the playoff games there were coaches but the regular showcase games were barely 5-8 college coaches on the sideline watching. very worrisome

Actually it seems ECNL really must be worried about GA gaining ground with all these seemingly never-ending attacks.

hmm. interesting

https://x.com/ImYouthSoccer/status/1939020978790748277/photo/1

Ahh yes, the AI enhanced and cherry picked (didnt include 2024 GA playoffs recruiter #'s) ECNL coaches account. Sorry, nobody believes this guy anymore.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:GA showcase and playoff just finished. 159 D1 colleges showed up. down from 172 last year. what is happening to the GA? every time I walked by the playoff games there were coaches but the regular showcase games were barely 5-8 college coaches on the sideline watching. very worrisome

Actually it seems ECNL really must be worried about GA gaining ground with all these seemingly never-ending attacks.

hmm. interesting

https://x.com/ImYouthSoccer/status/1939020978790748277/photo/1

Ahh yes, the AI enhanced and cherry picked (didnt include 2024 GA playoffs recruiter #'s) ECNL coaches account. Sorry, nobody believes this guy anymore.

The AI enhanced number of ECNL players comment is correct. Also the image is AI created.

However, 2025 GA playoff coach and recruiter numbers werent included not 2024. FYI 2025 GA had more recruiters and coaches at their event than they'd ever had before.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:GA showcase and playoff just finished. 159 D1 colleges showed up. down from 172 last year. what is happening to the GA? every time I walked by the playoff games there were coaches but the regular showcase games were barely 5-8 college coaches on the sideline watching. very worrisome

Actually it seems ECNL really must be worried about GA gaining ground with all these seemingly never-ending attacks.

hmm. interesting

https://x.com/ImYouthSoccer/status/1939020978790748277/photo/1

Ahh yes, the AI enhanced and cherry picked (didnt include 2024 GA playoffs recruiter #'s) ECNL coaches account. Sorry, nobody believes this guy anymore.

thank you for going to the GA website and counting the D1 coaches signed up. seeing that you did, are you saying the number of 159 is incorrect or correct?