Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Navy parent with an older kid who is completely indifferent about the move to Chantilly. They are both great schools. And for all of the talk of community, my child is in middle school with a lot of kids who will go to Chantilly. So it is hard to make friends and know you won't see them in high school. But if Navy gets zoned out of Oakton, then Crossfield should as well. It would make no sense to leave Crossfield there.

Crossfield mounted a huge defense and a website. They’re not only successfully petitioned to stay at Oakton, but also now have successfully been given permission to come to Franklin MS, even though Carson is closer to them. They now don’t want Carson because Carson will feed to Skyview.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Navy parent with an older kid who is completely indifferent about the move to Chantilly. They are both great schools. And for all of the talk of community, my child is in middle school with a lot of kids who will go to Chantilly. So it is hard to make friends and know you won't see them in high school. But if Navy gets zoned out of Oakton, then Crossfield should as well. It would make no sense to leave Crossfield there.

Crossfield mounted a huge defense and a website. They’re not only successfully petitioned to stay at Oakton, but also now have successfully been given permission to come to Franklin MS, even though Carson is closer to them. They now don’t want Carson because Carson will feed to Skyview.

How do you know they have been successful?

Looking at the options from XYZ, it appears that they just moved pieces around with no understanding at all of the purpose and results.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, they should just set the boundaries for Skyview and let the rest sort out. Westfield will still have plenty of kids. Chantilly will be smaller.
They may need to do something about Centreville overcrowding and send some of those kids to Westfield.

PP here.
I meant that Chantilly will be less crowded--not smaller than Westfield.

It does seem to me that moving those Cub Run kids who attend Chantilly to Westfield might be reasonable.

The dividing line here should be Route 28, not Walney Road. Moving the kids in the small sliver in between from Chantilly to Westfields is crazy.

Why is it crazy? That area is one of the closest to Westfield HS that's not already zoned there (no S in Westfield BTW-where do you live where you don't know the name of the schools?)

I live in the Chantilly pyramid. You?

Many of those students can/do walk to Chantilly, which isn't an option for WestfielD (happy?).

It looks pretty far to regularly walk (3 miles) but assuming that's true, so what?

Which part of Lee's Corner is three miles from Chantilly? Most is far less than two miles. And, many do walk.

And, to the person who thinks that the sliver that goes to Cub Run should not cross 28. you are suggesting that Lee's Corner cross 28--and they are way further away from it.
Lee's Corner is ONE stoplight away from Chantilly for more than 90% of the students.

Its around three miles to Chantilly High school from that piece of Cub Run they are moving to Westfield from Chantillly. PP was saying kids walk from that area to CHS.

My front door (in this area) to CHS is 1.8 miles walking, 2 miles driving. My kid walks it all the time.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Navy parent with an older kid who is completely indifferent about the move to Chantilly. They are both great schools. And for all of the talk of community, my child is in middle school with a lot of kids who will go to Chantilly. So it is hard to make friends and know you won't see them in high school. But if Navy gets zoned out of Oakton, then Crossfield should as well. It would make no sense to leave Crossfield there.

Crossfield mounted a huge defense and a website. They’re not only successfully petitioned to stay at Oakton, but also now have successfully been given permission to come to Franklin MS, even though Carson is closer to them. They now don’t want Carson because Carson will feed to Skyview.

I’m actually more impressed with what Lees Corner has been able to put together in much less time. They also have a stronger argument.

Keeping Crossfield at Oakton is causing messy boundaries elsewhere. Had Lees Corner been involved in that first round of maps, I don’t think Crossfield would have been catered to so much. I wonder if the school board regrets giving them so much influence now.

[Anonymous]

I think the consultants were given specific instructions on SOME neighborhoods. RIO people, and the Walney Oaks people who somehow got Reid to publicly promise they wouldn't be moved even though they are right next to the Westfield zone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the consultants were given specific instructions on SOME neighborhoods. RIO people, and the Walney Oaks people who somehow got Reid to publicly promise they wouldn't be moved even though they are right next to the Westfield zone.

Dirty politics and gerrymandering at its finest. There is no scenario that shouldn’t have RIO moving to either Skyview or South Lakes (both in their backyard)

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Navy parent with an older kid who is completely indifferent about the move to Chantilly. They are both great schools. And for all of the talk of community, my child is in middle school with a lot of kids who will go to Chantilly. So it is hard to make friends and know you won't see them in high school. But if Navy gets zoned out of Oakton, then Crossfield should as well. It would make no sense to leave Crossfield there.

Crossfield mounted a huge defense and a website. They’re not only successfully petitioned to stay at Oakton, but also now have successfully been given permission to come to Franklin MS, even though Carson is closer to them. They now don’t want Carson because Carson will feed to Skyview.

How do you know they have been successful?

Looking at the options from XYZ, it appears that they just moved pieces around with no understanding at all of the purpose and results.

Because each of their 3 scenarios has them going to Franklin MS. None left them at Carson.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Navy parent with an older kid who is completely indifferent about the move to Chantilly. They are both great schools. And for all of the talk of community, my child is in middle school with a lot of kids who will go to Chantilly. So it is hard to make friends and know you won't see them in high school. But if Navy gets zoned out of Oakton, then Crossfield should as well. It would make no sense to leave Crossfield there.

Crossfield mounted a huge defense and a website. They’re not only successfully petitioned to stay at Oakton, but also now have successfully been given permission to come to Franklin MS, even though Carson is closer to them. They now don’t want Carson because Carson will feed to Skyview.

How do you know they have been successful?

Looking at the options from XYZ, it appears that they just moved pieces around with no understanding at all of the purpose and results.

Because each of their 3 scenarios has them going to Franklin MS. None left them at Carson.

It’s also on their own Rooted in Oakton website. They specifically asked to be moved to Franklin MS so their cohort could remain whole and move together with more kids to Oakton to continue their “community.”

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Anonymous wrote:I think the consultants were given specific instructions on SOME neighborhoods. RIO people, and the Walney Oaks people who somehow got Reid to publicly promise they wouldn't be moved even though they are right next to the Westfield zone.

Dirty politics and gerrymandering at its finest. There is no scenario that shouldn’t have RIO moving to either Skyview or South Lakes (both in their backyard)

+1 agree. We need to contact the school board and voice our opinions.

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Anonymous wrote:Navy mommies are outdoing the Rios tonight. God forbid their first grader gets moved to Chantilly from Oakton. Half the distance and a fairly equal school. Where is the humanity??? Welp!

LOL. I heard that. A clueless parent who literally said “distance doesn’t matter so much as keeping them with friends.” For a first grader!!!

Are you on the spectrum? By first grade my kid had deep friendships with classmates.

I feel sorry for your kids that they have a parent that thinks distance is the only factor to consider in schools.

You and PP are learning, shockingly apparently in real-time, that it is not just about rankings and distance, most of us care about our community above all else. Community is what makes a school desirable.

I’m curious why you chose to use being on the spectrum as an insult? Do you think it’s ok to insult people by claiming they have a disability? Gross.

There is no such thing as a “deep” friendship in 1st grade. By the time your child gets to high school, friendships will have changed a dozen times. In fact, middle school is a time where kids will make a ton of new friends that will go to their high school. Absolutely no one is making a decision about high schools based on the opinions of a first grade parent. In each scenario your own child will get to stay at their assigned elementary school anyway. And maybe you don’t realize it, but in 2 of the 3 scenarios, your entire community would actually feed into the same high school! If your child’s friendship is so deep by first grade, wouldn’t you want that? So what is the problem?

And when you are talking about high school, you must understand distance is a major factor. That’s what we heard time and time again at the meeting last night. High schoolers often have to stay after for activities or service hours or to make up tests. Kids involved in band or orchestra may have to stay after to practice. Or they have to return to school for an evening event. High schoolers also stay up later doing homework and need more sleep. Getting up earlier for a further commute isn’t an option. You don’t understand any of this because you have a 1st grader.

A symptom of being on the spectrum is often the inability to see anyone’s opinion but your own and to not fully understand social cues and dynamics.

You’ve only confirmed our suspicion.

You know what the symptoms of being an idiot and an a$$hole are? Throwing around disabilities as insults and not understanding the bigger picture when it comes to “community” and high schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Navy mommies are outdoing the Rios tonight. God forbid their first grader gets moved to Chantilly from Oakton. Half the distance and a fairly equal school. Where is the humanity??? Welp!

LOL. I heard that. A clueless parent who literally said “distance doesn’t matter so much as keeping them with friends.” For a first grader!!!

Are you on the spectrum? By first grade my kid had deep friendships with classmates.

I feel sorry for your kids that they have a parent that thinks distance is the only factor to consider in schools.

You and PP are learning, shockingly apparently in real-time, that it is not just about rankings and distance, most of us care about our community above all else. Community is what makes a school desirable.

I’m curious why you chose to use being on the spectrum as an insult? Do you think it’s ok to insult people by claiming they have a disability? Gross.

There is no such thing as a “deep” friendship in 1st grade. By the time your child gets to high school, friendships will have changed a dozen times. In fact, middle school is a time where kids will make a ton of new friends that will go to their high school. Absolutely no one is making a decision about high schools based on the opinions of a first grade parent. In each scenario your own child will get to stay at their assigned elementary school anyway. And maybe you don’t realize it, but in 2 of the 3 scenarios, your entire community would actually feed into the same high school! If your child’s friendship is so deep by first grade, wouldn’t you want that? So what is the problem?

And when you are talking about high school, you must understand distance is a major factor. That’s what we heard time and time again at the meeting last night. High schoolers often have to stay after for activities or service hours or to make up tests. Kids involved in band or orchestra may have to stay after to practice. Or they have to return to school for an evening event. High schoolers also stay up later doing homework and need more sleep. Getting up earlier for a further commute isn’t an option. You don’t understand any of this because you have a 1st grader.

A symptom of being on the spectrum is often the inability to see anyone’s opinion but your own and to not fully understand social cues and dynamics.

You’ve only confirmed our suspicion.

You know what the symptoms of being an idiot and an a$$hole are? Throwing around disabilities as insults and not understanding the bigger picture when it comes to “community” and high schools.

+1

But, I do agree that PP is mistaken with thinking her first grader will still have a deep friendship with the same person in high school. She may not even have a deep friendship with the same girl by the time she gets to third grade.

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Anonymous wrote:Navy mommies are outdoing the Rios tonight. God forbid their first grader gets moved to Chantilly from Oakton. Half the distance and a fairly equal school. Where is the humanity??? Welp!

LOL. I heard that. A clueless parent who literally said “distance doesn’t matter so much as keeping them with friends.” For a first grader!!!

Are you on the spectrum? By first grade my kid had deep friendships with classmates.

I feel sorry for your kids that they have a parent that thinks distance is the only factor to consider in schools.

You and PP are learning, shockingly apparently in real-time, that it is not just about rankings and distance, most of us care about our community above all else. Community is what makes a school desirable.

I’m curious why you chose to use being on the spectrum as an insult? Do you think it’s ok to insult people by claiming they have a disability? Gross.

There is no such thing as a “deep” friendship in 1st grade. By the time your child gets to high school, friendships will have changed a dozen times. In fact, middle school is a time where kids will make a ton of new friends that will go to their high school. Absolutely no one is making a decision about high schools based on the opinions of a first grade parent. In each scenario your own child will get to stay at their assigned elementary school anyway. And maybe you don’t realize it, but in 2 of the 3 scenarios, your entire community would actually feed into the same high school! If your child’s friendship is so deep by first grade, wouldn’t you want that? So what is the problem?

And when you are talking about high school, you must understand distance is a major factor. That’s what we heard time and time again at the meeting last night. High schoolers often have to stay after for activities or service hours or to make up tests. Kids involved in band or orchestra may have to stay after to practice. Or they have to return to school for an evening event. High schoolers also stay up later doing homework and need more sleep. Getting up earlier for a further commute isn’t an option. You don’t understand any of this because you have a 1st grader.

A symptom of being on the spectrum is often the inability to see anyone’s opinion but your own and to not fully understand social cues and dynamics.

You’ve only confirmed our suspicion.

You know what the symptoms of being an idiot and an a$$hole are? Throwing around disabilities as insults and not understanding the bigger picture when it comes to “community” and high schools.

+1

But, I do agree that PP is mistaken with thinking her first grader will still have a deep friendship with the same person in high school. She may not even have a deep friendship with the same girl by the time she gets to third grade.

So true! Happened to my kid, one year they were inseparable and the following year they were worse enemies. This is NOT a valid reason to oppose boundary changes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Navy parent with an older kid who is completely indifferent about the move to Chantilly. They are both great schools. And for all of the talk of community, my child is in middle school with a lot of kids who will go to Chantilly. So it is hard to make friends and know you won't see them in high school. But if Navy gets zoned out of Oakton, then Crossfield should as well. It would make no sense to leave Crossfield there.

Crossfield mounted a huge defense and a website. They’re not only successfully petitioned to stay at Oakton, but also now have successfully been given permission to come to Franklin MS, even though Carson is closer to them. They now don’t want Carson because Carson will feed to Skyview.

How do you know they have been successful?

Looking at the options from XYZ, it appears that they just moved pieces around with no understanding at all of the purpose and results.

Because each of their 3 scenarios has them going to Franklin MS. None left them at Carson.

It’s also on their own Rooted in Oakton website. They specifically asked to be moved to Franklin MS so their cohort could remain whole and move together with more kids to Oakton to continue their “community.”

Setting aside how annoying the RIO group is, it does make sense for them to move to Franklin if they are staying at Oakton. Shifting schools moving to Skyview between Franklin and Carson to limit split feeders is a logical thing to do.

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Anonymous wrote:Navy mommies are outdoing the Rios tonight. God forbid their first grader gets moved to Chantilly from Oakton. Half the distance and a fairly equal school. Where is the humanity??? Welp!

LOL. I heard that. A clueless parent who literally said “distance doesn’t matter so much as keeping them with friends.” For a first grader!!!

Are you on the spectrum? By first grade my kid had deep friendships with classmates.

I feel sorry for your kids that they have a parent that thinks distance is the only factor to consider in schools.

You and PP are learning, shockingly apparently in real-time, that it is not just about rankings and distance, most of us care about our community above all else. Community is what makes a school desirable.

I’m curious why you chose to use being on the spectrum as an insult? Do you think it’s ok to insult people by claiming they have a disability? Gross.

There is no such thing as a “deep” friendship in 1st grade. By the time your child gets to high school, friendships will have changed a dozen times. In fact, middle school is a time where kids will make a ton of new friends that will go to their high school. Absolutely no one is making a decision about high schools based on the opinions of a first grade parent. In each scenario your own child will get to stay at their assigned elementary school anyway. And maybe you don’t realize it, but in 2 of the 3 scenarios, your entire community would actually feed into the same high school! If your child’s friendship is so deep by first grade, wouldn’t you want that? So what is the problem?

And when you are talking about high school, you must understand distance is a major factor. That’s what we heard time and time again at the meeting last night. High schoolers often have to stay after for activities or service hours or to make up tests. Kids involved in band or orchestra may have to stay after to practice. Or they have to return to school for an evening event. High schoolers also stay up later doing homework and need more sleep. Getting up earlier for a further commute isn’t an option. You don’t understand any of this because you have a 1st grader.

A symptom of being on the spectrum is often the inability to see anyone’s opinion but your own and to not fully understand social cues and dynamics.

You’ve only confirmed our suspicion.

You know what the symptoms of being an idiot and an a$$hole are? Throwing around disabilities as insults and not understanding the bigger picture when it comes to “community” and high schools.

+1

But, I do agree that PP is mistaken with thinking her first grader will still have a deep friendship with the same person in high school. She may not even have a deep friendship with the same girl by the time she gets to third grade.

So true! Happened to my kid, one year they were inseparable and the following year they were worse enemies. This is NOT a valid reason to oppose boundary changes.

+2

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Navy parent with an older kid who is completely indifferent about the move to Chantilly. They are both great schools. And for all of the talk of community, my child is in middle school with a lot of kids who will go to Chantilly. So it is hard to make friends and know you won't see them in high school. But if Navy gets zoned out of Oakton, then Crossfield should as well. It would make no sense to leave Crossfield there.

Crossfield mounted a huge defense and a website. They’re not only successfully petitioned to stay at Oakton, but also now have successfully been given permission to come to Franklin MS, even though Carson is closer to them. They now don’t want Carson because Carson will feed to Skyview.

How do you know they have been successful?

Looking at the options from XYZ, it appears that they just moved pieces around with no understanding at all of the purpose and results.

Because each of their 3 scenarios has them going to Franklin MS. None left them at Carson.

It’s also on their own Rooted in Oakton website. They specifically asked to be moved to Franklin MS so their cohort could remain whole and move together with more kids to Oakton to continue their “community.”

Setting aside how annoying the RIO group is, it does make sense for them to move to Franklin if they are staying at Oakton. Shifting schools moving to Skyview between Franklin and Carson to limit split feeders is a logical thing to do.

Except in doing that, they will displace Navy families who are also going to Oakton HS and Chantilly HS. One of the scenarios has Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and then back to Oakton HS, as well as Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and Chantilly HS. So Navy will now feed into 2 middle schools all so Crossfield can go to one MS (Franklin) and stay together at Oakton HS. Does that sound fair to you?