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You proved most of PP’s points. And the change coming to TJ demonstrates the discomfort with the arrogance and tone-deaf behavior. |
So lower the standards of the best high school in VA and often the country so it won’t be the best anymore. Sounds like an amazing plan. Educational values come from family. Shoving URMs into TJ won’t solve anything. They would probably be better off graduating at the top of their neighborhood schools unless they would have gone to TJ without a lottery. |
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" The discrimination of Asian immigrants mirrors that of the discrimination of immigrants more than a century ago. "
Covid-19 is the Chinese Lusitania. The 1890 Tariff - which for the first time categorized worsted as a woolen - attracted the German woolen and worsted industry to America. German-Americans were celebrated until the Lusitania was sunk by an a single torpedo from a German U-boat - and 198 American citizens drowned. The 1918 Trading With the Enemy Act empowered Alien Property Custodian A. Mitchell Palmer to seize and auction those same German-American textile mills for pennies on the dollar to cronies. Why fight discrimination? Go home. You'll never win. There is a reason there is a continent of Asia. |
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Wow, they are literally flying blind.
Blow it up and see what happens without models, data, and common sense. The only certainty is that Asian families will be negatively affected and this is driven by a Board with no Asian (maybe one?) representation. |
Aren’t a lot of the Asian students at TJ Indian or Indian-American? How do you not realize Rachna is Indian-American? |
My bad. I just tuned in and am new to all this. She actually seems sympathetic. |
I was told my English is really good a few years ago in the DC area. I was born in America but am of Indian origin. You’re deluding yourself. |
Re bolded comment, this made me laugh. This still happens. Maybe not as persistently as in the past decades but the underlying current is still very much there. I am considered highly successful, in a senior position in a profession filled with graduates from Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Ivies, Duke, Gtown, UVA etc. I live in an affluent area of NOVA. People in professional or neighborhood settings have commented on how polished and articulate I am. Or point out that I speak without an accent. Most of my Asian-American friends with similar levels of success have their own stories about these types of situations. You kind of laugh it off because success helps wash over a lot of things. But it is still not pleasant, and it is a form of microaggression. |
Oh my gawd. Get over yourself. People don't form these opinions based on a vacuum. It's natural human behavior for us to hold simplified views of the world around us, especially things of little significance or importance to our personal lives. That all BMW drivers are aholes is one such belief. While it may seem offensive for others to be surprised by your excellent English, it's a common fact that most Asians in this country are first generation immigrants, with English as a second language, often learned during teenage years, leading to an audible accent. As time goes on, we have more and more Asians in this country that have a great command of English, and speak with little to no accent, and therefore people's perception changes naturally. That some are still impressed by your English doesn't somehow make it an aggression. Personally, I am glad when someone mentions to me that my English is excellent, wondering if I was born in the US. I am eager to share that I came to the US in my teenage years, but that I had a wonderful English teacher who personally recorded cassette tapes to help me with my enunciation. Next time this person encounters another Asian who speaks English well, he will be less surprised by it, and less likely to make a comment. People don't make these comments because they are impolite, but because they are misinformed. Being misinformed is the natural state, and it's not a reason to dislike someone for it. You ought to know better. |
Except they dare not ask the same question to Africans or other blacks. |
Wow, so many things in this previous post. PP really doesn't get it. Even the cited "common fact" that most Asians in this country are first generations is wrong. Also, Asian-Americans that are getting these comments are not first generation. They are often second, third generations who have spent their entire lives here in the US, which is the whole point about why these types of statements about being impressed with one's English is offensive. |
LOL, one of the famous Biden gaffs is that he characterized Obama as, and I quote: ""I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Chris Rock also had a specific bit about white people's compliment for Collin Powell being "He speaks so well" or "He is so well spoken". |
PP here, my facts are based on real actual data: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/09/08/key-facts-about-asian-americans/ Among adult Asian Americans in the US, 73% are foreign born. When your average non-Asian American meet an Asian adult like the victim of micro aggressions above, their default assumption that the Asian is of foreign birth is statistically accurate. You may not like it, but this is simply the common fact. |
Interesting how you didn't include the rest of the information: "The modern immigration wave from Asia has accounted for one-quarter of all immigrants who have arrived in the U.S. since 1965. Today 59% of the U.S. Asian population was born in another country. That share rises to 73% among adult Asians. Yet, when and how Asian immigrants arrived in the U.S. varies, which helps explain why some groups have greater shares of U.S. born or foreign born among their populations. For example, only 27% of Japanese, who began arriving in the 19th century as plantation workers in what is now the state of Hawaii, are immigrants. By contrast, many Bhutanese arrived recently as refugees, and nearly all (92%) are foreign born." As this study suggests, Asians are not a monolithic group. It's not appropriate for anyone to have a default assumptions about Asian-Americans or others. |
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Thank you pp for those statistics. I would like to hear a direct explanation of why people find it offensive to hear “your English is so good.” If their objection is something along the lines of, “you’d never say that to a white person,” the answer is that as an Asian American you look outwardly like many people whose first language is not English, and white people don’t.
I have always considered myself a liberal but I think the characterization of many things as microaggressions has gone too far. I read a recent frustrated article by an African American doctor who was offended that she is sometimes not seen as a doctor at first glance. She acknowledged in her piece that 90% of people who look like her in her hospital are nursing staff and janitorial. So why is someone a monster if they accidentally assume something that is accurate 90% of the time? |