Burgundy Farm

[Anonymous]

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Burgundy knocked it out of the park today for our early elementary class!


Awesome! What worked well?


Everything was well organized and we didn't have any tech issues. The teachers and content were extremely engaging, so much so that my young child was very enthusiastic about it the entire time. Hopefully the excitement doesn't wear off!

Right, but my son is at a public middle school, and he's enthusiastic about the virtual learning right now as well. Which makes me wonder why I am spending 35K for my daughter to go to Burgundy right now.

Yes. The DL at Burgundy is fine but it’s not 35K fine.

But no DL would be worth $35k. No one would be paying that for DL. So they could pull out all the bells and whistles and it's still DL - which is not how kids learn best, nor is it how a progressive, experiential learning program should be. So I think you have to think of it more like you are spending the money for a multi year investment in a school, community, and program that you want your child to experience. I agree it's a tough pill to swallow. But there's no way DL would ever be worth $35k, so you'll consistently be disappointed if you are waiting for that.

[Anonymous]

True, but other area privates (SSAS, ACDS) have developed a robust zoom schedule. Well, ACDS kids are on campus a few days a week too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Burgundy knocked it out of the park today for our early elementary class!


Awesome! What worked well?


Everything was well organized and we didn't have any tech issues. The teachers and content were extremely engaging, so much so that my young child was very enthusiastic about it the entire time. Hopefully the excitement doesn't wear off!

Right, but my son is at a public middle school, and he's enthusiastic about the virtual learning right now as well. Which makes me wonder why I am spending 35K for my daughter to go to Burgundy right now.

Yes. The DL at Burgundy is fine but it’s not 35K fine.

But no DL would be worth $35k. No one would be paying that for DL. So they could pull out all the bells and whistles and it's still DL - which is not how kids learn best, nor is it how a progressive, experiential learning program should be. So I think you have to think of it more like you are spending the money for a multi year investment in a school, community, and program that you want your child to experience. I agree it's a tough pill to swallow. But there's no way DL would ever be worth $35k, so you'll consistently be disappointed if you are waiting for that.

Or you could just be done with this ridiculous school that pretends to be progressive and outdoorsy but then when it matters most chooses to be neither.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:True, but other area privates (SSAS, ACDS) have developed a robust zoom schedule. Well, ACDS kids are on campus a few days a week too.

And some are even open in person! Burgundy has no excuse

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:sa

Right, but my son is at a public middle school, and he's enthusiastic about the virtual learning right now as well. Which makes me wonder why I am spending 35K for my daughter to go to Burgundy right now.

Yes. The DL at Burgundy is fine but it’s not 35K fine.

If we manage to go back on campus at some point during this school year, I'll be content having spent the $35K. If we're still distance learning in 2021-22, my family will have to tap out. Tuition is a real sacrifice for us, and it doesn't make sense for us to keep paying this much for DL -- even for high-quality DL, which I do think Burgundy is offering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:True, but other area privates (SSAS, ACDS) have developed a robust zoom schedule. Well, ACDS kids are on campus a few days a week too.

We have a pretty robust Zoom schedule and we are in Burgundy 1st grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Burgundy knocked it out of the park today for our early elementary class!


Awesome! What worked well?


Everything was well organized and we didn't have any tech issues. The teachers and content were extremely engaging, so much so that my young child was very enthusiastic about it the entire time. Hopefully the excitement doesn't wear off!

Right, but my son is at a public middle school, and he's enthusiastic about the virtual learning right now as well. Which makes me wonder why I am spending 35K for my daughter to go to Burgundy right now.

Yes. The DL at Burgundy is fine but it’s not 35K fine.

But no DL would be worth $35k. No one would be paying that for DL. So they could pull out all the bells and whistles and it's still DL - which is not how kids learn best, nor is it how a progressive, experiential learning program should be. So I think you have to think of it more like you are spending the money for a multi year investment in a school, community, and program that you want your child to experience. I agree it's a tough pill to swallow. But there's no way DL would ever be worth $35k, so you'll consistently be disappointed if you are waiting for that.

Why do I “have” to think about it that way? I don’t owe Burgundy this years tuition just because eventually one day when teachers are willing to do their job I can get the honor of paying 35K for in person. I am paying 35K now and I want in person now because that’s what I am paying for

[Anonymous]

But no DL would be worth $35k. No one would be paying that for DL. So they could pull out all the bells and whistles and it's still DL - which is not how kids learn best, nor is it how a progressive, experiential learning program should be. So I think you have to think of it more like you are spending the money for a multi year investment in a school, community, and program that you want your child to experience. I agree it's a tough pill to swallow. But there's no way DL would ever be worth $35k, so you'll consistently be disappointed if you are waiting for that.

I get that in one sense, but the problem is that we only entered this school in 6th last year, so the number of years we will be investing in it is necessarily limited.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:True, but other area privates (SSAS, ACDS) have developed a robust zoom schedule. Well, ACDS kids are on campus a few days a week too.

We have a pretty robust Zoom schedule and we are in Burgundy 1st grade.

SSAS does not have a whole day asynchronous. BFCDS does. Lucky teachers at BFCDS!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

But no DL would be worth $35k. No one would be paying that for DL. So they could pull out all the bells and whistles and it's still DL - which is not how kids learn best, nor is it how a progressive, experiential learning program should be. So I think you have to think of it more like you are spending the money for a multi year investment in a school, community, and program that you want your child to experience. I agree it's a tough pill to swallow. But there's no way DL would ever be worth $35k, so you'll consistently be disappointed if you are waiting for that.

I get that in one sense, but the problem is that we only entered this school in 6th last year, so the number of years we will be investing in it is necessarily limited.[/quote

This investment idea is so dumb. Yes private schools are communities and families are expected to give above and beyond tuition for long and short term improvements. But that doesn’t mean private schools can simply refuse to deliver in-person learning (hi Burgundy!) and insist that parents look the other way And keep shelling out big bucks as an “investment.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:True, but other area privates (SSAS, ACDS) have developed a robust zoom schedule. Well, ACDS kids are on campus a few days a week too.

We have a pretty robust Zoom schedule and we are in Burgundy 1st grade.

SSAS does not have a whole day asynchronous. BFCDS does. Lucky teachers at BFCDS!

Burgundy 1st grade parent here. We don't have any full days of asynchronous learning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

But no DL would be worth $35k. No one would be paying that for DL. So they could pull out all the bells and whistles and it's still DL - which is not how kids learn best, nor is it how a progressive, experiential learning program should be. So I think you have to think of it more like you are spending the money for a multi year investment in a school, community, and program that you want your child to experience. I agree it's a tough pill to swallow. But there's no way DL would ever be worth $35k, so you'll consistently be disappointed if you are waiting for that.

I get that in one sense, but the problem is that we only entered this school in 6th last year, so the number of years we will be investing in it is necessarily limited.[/quote

This investment idea is so dumb. Yes private schools are communities and families are expected to give above and beyond tuition for long and short term improvements. But that doesn’t mean private schools can simply refuse to deliver in-person learning (hi Burgundy!) and insist that parents look the other way And keep shelling out big bucks as an “investment.”

PP here. I totally agree. I was more just saying that it's crazy to try to debate whether DL is "good enough" to justify $35k. It's not, it never could be.

[Anonymous]

I’m the parent of a junior who attends Bishop Ireton High School not far from BFCDS and let me tell you.... teachers, administrators and the AMAZING head of school worked non stop all summer to develop a hybrid model. Classes began on August 24 and my daughter goes every other day she has in person then DL. It’s been AMAZING. We might not pay 35K (only $17) but the school is worth EVERY SINGLE PENNY. They presented a 29 pages plan to the state and it was approved. I am at awe at how well they’re doing and the people they hired so students follow the safety rules. Their DL in spring was pretty good too. She’s working and leaning and HAPPY. I used to be a BFCDS teacher and after 5 years I left. The administration sucks. Is Jeff still there?

[Anonymous]

What is wrong with the administration? Please describe. I’m an interested BFCDS parent. It’s evident there is a problem with leadership considering the school markets itself as a place for outdoor learning and now when it’s most important... not so much. I am really curious how we got to where we are? The Board? The teachers? Jeff? Elizabeth? At a minimum K-2 should be on campus like ACDS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is wrong with the administration? Please describe. I’m an interested BFCDS parent. It’s evident there is a problem with leadership considering the school markets itself as a place for outdoor learning and now when it’s most important... not so much. I am really curious how we got to where we are? The Board? The teachers? Jeff? Elizabeth? At a minimum K-2 should be on campus like ACDS.

Also interested in hearing thoughts on this. We will have a K kid next year and were very interested in Burgundy. Now...not so much.