Public Trump Impeachment Hearing Mega Thread

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Second-hand in and of itself does not mean something is not true. Think about it. You have to weigh the evidence, consider whether e there’s corroborating evidence, then make a decision. The fact that something is secondhand doesn’t make it false s. Don’t be a fool. And quit insulting my intelligence – all of our intelligence — with some stupid ass talking point you were given.


+1 Also, you can't complain about "secondhand information" when many of the 'firsthand' witnesses have been blocked from testimony. If it was all perfect and clean, then Pompeo, Mulvaney, Bolton and the others would be beating down the doors to tell their story, and the State Department would be releasing all of the cables, emails and ophone records to prove it.

In fact, Rudy, Mulvaney and Trump have all admitted the crimes. The "transcript" of the perfect call shows the contours of a crime - release the FULL transcript. Depositions fill in missing details to timeline going back to April of this shakedown. At the moment, actual facts and testimony show a damning story of extortion, bribery and obstruction.
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Anonymous wrote:For the people who have been saying that this is business as usual, you had two high ranking career public servants with nearly 80 years of service between them who stated that they had never in their long careers under Presidents of both parties encountered a President who used the powerful levers of foreign policy under his control for personal gain.


They also said they never in their long years of serving did they see a Vice President tell a foreign country to stop their investigation in 6 hours or no aid.

Whoa - I missed this yesterday.

Me again. I assumed the VP in question was Pence. Are people still pushing the nonsense about Biden?


Not sure why you would think it was Pence when it was Biden who actually did it.


What did Biden do, other than carry out the bi-partisan policy of the United States of America?
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Anonymous wrote:For the people who have been saying that this is business as usual, you had two high ranking career public servants with nearly 80 years of service between them who stated that they had never in their long careers under Presidents of both parties encountered a President who used the powerful levers of foreign policy under his control for personal gain.


They also said they never in their long years of serving did they see a Vice President tell a foreign country to stop their investigation in 6 hours or no aid.

Whoa - I missed this yesterday.

Me again. I assumed the VP in question was Pence. Are people still pushing the nonsense about Biden?


Not sure why you would think it was Pence when it was Biden who actually did it.


What did Biden do, other than carry out the bi-partisan policy of the United States of America?

Biden openly pursued the official policy of the US and the policy we coordinated with the EU and the IMF
Anonymous
LOL

NBC News
@NBCNews
Analysis: The first two witnesses called Wednesday testified to President Trump's scheme, but lacked the pizzazz necessary to capture public attention.

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1194830580896145408


Shorter: Impeachment hearing was a snoozefest.
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Anonymous wrote:For the people who have been saying that this is business as usual, you had two high ranking career public servants with nearly 80 years of service between them who stated that they had never in their long careers under Presidents of both parties encountered a President who used the powerful levers of foreign policy under his control for personal gain.


They also said they never in their long years of serving did they see a Vice President tell a foreign country to stop their investigation in 6 hours or no aid.

Whoa - I missed this yesterday.

Me again. I assumed the VP in question was Pence. Are people still pushing the nonsense about Biden?


Not sure why you would think it was Pence when it was Biden who actually did it.


What did Biden do, other than carry out the bi-partisan policy of the United States of America?


Nothing. Absolutely nothing. He did what he was supposed to do. Like most patriotic public servants who take a OATH.
Anonymous
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NBC News
@NBCNews
Analysis: The first two witnesses called Wednesday testified to President Trump's scheme, but lacked the pizzazz necessary to capture public attention.

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1194830580896145408


Shorter: Impeachment hearing was a snoozefest.


Doing the right thing is not always exciting.

Trump won thanks in part to his 1930s Germany style rallies.

So yeah, I guess that’s winning.
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DP. What you are doing is not remaining skeptical. You are in full-on denial.

Enough has been made public. It's all laid out. You just don't want to admit it.

If this were Obama, you'd be screaming for impeachment.


Spot on!

And if this were Obama, Democrats would be doing exactly what the Republicans are doing right now: namely, that the impeachment effort is a sham, partisan, baseless, etc.

Such is the reality of politics today!

There. Is. No. Both. Sides.


Nope. He'd have been gone. There would have been a few Democrats that would have pulled shenanigans, sure, but he'd have resigned.

The GOP have, since the time of Newt Gingrich, been united in their messaging. Unfortunately, their messages have also been largely BS and short-sighted (how much money and power can I grab now, the rest of the world be damned). But they have been really good at delivering their lies. I'd admire it if it wasn't so damaging, unethical and awful.
Anonymous
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NBC News
@NBCNews
Analysis: The first two witnesses called Wednesday testified to President Trump's scheme, but lacked the pizzazz necessary to capture public attention.

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1194830580896145408


Shorter: Impeachment hearing was a snoozefest.



Yeah. If you’ve got an eighth grade education. It isn’t supposed to be entertaining. Sorry if reasoning is hard for you.
Anonymous
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NBC News
@NBCNews
Analysis: The first two witnesses called Wednesday testified to President Trump's scheme, but lacked the pizzazz necessary to capture public attention.

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1194830580896145408


Shorter: Impeachment hearing was a snoozefest.

Is it supposed to be entertainment?
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Anonymous wrote:I attended the hearing in person today.

Devin Nunes is an abomination. A sweaty mess, spewing lies and accusing the Dems of being dramatic while he was the biggest drama queen in the room.

Castor was a dumpster fire with high octane. What are they thinking?

Gym Jordan is the best the R's have, and that's really sad. He needs to get rid of his childish posters framing his seat and find a proper jacket. Watching the lies in person was just so supremely offensive - and Gym the sexual abuse denier needs to RESIGN.

Taylor and Kent were succinct, articulate and strong. NON-PARTISAN!

Schiff, Swalwell, and Castro were top notch. "Is attempted murder a crime?" YES IT IS! AS IS ATTEMPTED BRIBERY!

Signed,
A former R who will never again in my life vote for an R or respect anyone who does. The party is imploding on itself. Quite sad.


Schiff was top notch? After flat out denying that he knew the whistleblower's identity? That's rich, and probably the biggest lie of the day. If he doesnt' know the WB identity, how can he protect the WB's identity?


Boldface lie and libs shrug.
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Anonymous wrote:Summary: “I heard it from a friend who, heard it from a friend who, heard it from another you were messing around.”

REO Speedwagon


Oh. You got the talking points text they were sending around to the press too, huh?


Nope. Been listening to this all day without comments or ads.


But are your ears and mind open to what you are actually hearing?


Definitely. And I all heard was “I heard this second hand and it didn’t sound like something I like”



Dude, the evidence is ALL there. The summary of the call was released. Trump not only admitted it on TV, he went on to ask China to interfere too! And the aid wasn't released until their treason hit the news.

This is you:


Stupid memes don't make treasure out of the crapshow that was today.


So if all of the secondhand information is shown to be true, then will you be fine with whatever Trump has been doing this year?

That's what your response implies. Either that or you think that the secondhand information will not be shown to be true, in the next hearings.


it's not true just because someone else says it is true. But I'm not surprised, given how DCUM loves to speculate, believes anything that passes you by. There's SO much information to come out so I'll just remain skeptical.



There is *much* more information to come out. But, the White House is blocking it. Why? There are other witnesses that can give testimony, but the White House is blocking them, too. Why?


Because as we saw yesterday, it’s all passed along BS. Then Schiff claimed he didn’t know who the whistleblower was. They need to stay clean away.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I attended the hearing in person today.

Devin Nunes is an abomination. A sweaty mess, spewing lies and accusing the Dems of being dramatic while he was the biggest drama queen in the room.

Castor was a dumpster fire with high octane. What are they thinking?

Gym Jordan is the best the R's have, and that's really sad. He needs to get rid of his childish posters framing his seat and find a proper jacket. Watching the lies in person was just so supremely offensive - and Gym the sexual abuse denier needs to RESIGN.

Taylor and Kent were succinct, articulate and strong. NON-PARTISAN!

Schiff, Swalwell, and Castro were top notch. "Is attempted murder a crime?" YES IT IS! AS IS ATTEMPTED BRIBERY!

Signed,
A former R who will never again in my life vote for an R or respect anyone who does. The party is imploding on itself. Quite sad.


Schiff was top notch? After flat out denying that he knew the whistleblower's identity? That's rich, and probably the biggest lie of the day. If he doesnt' know the WB identity, how can he protect the WB's identity?


Boldface lie and libs shrug.

Meh. Trump and Co. have been lying their a$$es off since day one and cons have been shrugging just as long.
Anonymous
The testimony as a whole is dramatic - our president tried to enlist the help of a foreign government to ensure reelection, dragged careerists through the mud to do so, caused damage to national security all the while, caused Ukrainians to die while waiting for the aid that was ultimately released because the scheme was going public, and has lied about it over and over ever since. How is that not exciting enough for people? Why must it be entertaining to be important?

What I hate about our current world is the public need for drama. I'm a criminal defense lawyer and every day it's drama drama drama - people thinking their relationships are only relevant if they're fighting. Thinking that Real Housewives-esque drama is the only way to live, and that news only matters if it's dispensed in little drama-filled snippets.

Life isn't supposed to be drama. It's supposed to be about being a good person, caring for others, being ambitious without hurting other people.
We're never going to be ok as a country if we insist that exciting soundbites fill every public moment.
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Anonymous wrote:For the people who have been saying that this is business as usual, you had two high ranking career public servants with nearly 80 years of service between them who stated that they had never in their long careers under Presidents of both parties encountered a President who used the powerful levers of foreign policy under his control for personal gain.


They also said they never in their long years of serving did they see a Vice President tell a foreign country to stop their investigation in 6 hours or no aid.


STOP LYING.


Go back and listen to the testimony
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I attended the hearing in person today.

Devin Nunes is an abomination. A sweaty mess, spewing lies and accusing the Dems of being dramatic while he was the biggest drama queen in the room.

Castor was a dumpster fire with high octane. What are they thinking?

Gym Jordan is the best the R's have, and that's really sad. He needs to get rid of his childish posters framing his seat and find a proper jacket. Watching the lies in person was just so supremely offensive - and Gym the sexual abuse denier needs to RESIGN.

Taylor and Kent were succinct, articulate and strong. NON-PARTISAN!

Schiff, Swalwell, and Castro were top notch. "Is attempted murder a crime?" YES IT IS! AS IS ATTEMPTED BRIBERY!

Signed,
A former R who will never again in my life vote for an R or respect anyone who does. The party is imploding on itself. Quite sad.


Schiff was top notch? After flat out denying that he knew the whistleblower's identity? That's rich, and probably the biggest lie of the day. If he doesnt' know the WB identity, how can he protect the WB's identity?


Boldface lie and libs shrug.

You’re so so sad and un-American. The GOP is nothing but lies and felonies.
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