Public Trump Impeachment Hearing Mega Thread

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Analysis: The first two witnesses called Wednesday testified to President Trump's scheme, but lacked the pizzazz necessary to capture public attention.

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1194830580896145408


Shorter: Impeachment hearing was a snoozefest.



Yeah. If you’ve got an eighth grade education. It isn’t supposed to be entertaining. Sorry if reasoning is hard for you.


Not PP, but that is probably true for most of the US. We got a whole lot of stupid here.
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Anonymous wrote:Summary: “I heard it from a friend who, heard it from a friend who, heard it from another you were messing around.”

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Oh. You got the talking points text they were sending around to the press too, huh?


Nope. Been listening to this all day without comments or ads.


But are your ears and mind open to what you are actually hearing?


Definitely. And I all heard was “I heard this second hand and it didn’t sound like something I like”



Dude, the evidence is ALL there. The summary of the call was released. Trump not only admitted it on TV, he went on to ask China to interfere too! And the aid wasn't released until their treason hit the news.

This is you:


Stupid memes don't make treasure out of the crapshow that was today.


So if all of the secondhand information is shown to be true, then will you be fine with whatever Trump has been doing this year?

That's what your response implies. Either that or you think that the secondhand information will not be shown to be true, in the next hearings.


it's not true just because someone else says it is true. But I'm not surprised, given how DCUM loves to speculate, believes anything that passes you by. There's SO much information to come out so I'll just remain skeptical.



There is *much* more information to come out. But, the White House is blocking it. Why? There are other witnesses that can give testimony, but the White House is blocking them, too. Why?


Because as we saw yesterday, it’s all passed along BS. Then Schiff claimed he didn’t know who the whistleblower was. They need to stay clean away.
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So this is the plan, just say it is nothing, say it is nothing, president admits it, it is still nothing, guiliani admits it, still it is nothing? Basically keep lying until people stop arguing with you because are you are intellectually challenged?
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What proof is there that Schiff met with, or knows who the Whsitleblower is directly? None. Conjecture and another distraction from the core story.
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Anonymous wrote:For the people who have been saying that this is business as usual, you had two high ranking career public servants with nearly 80 years of service between them who stated that they had never in their long careers under Presidents of both parties encountered a President who used the powerful levers of foreign policy under his control for personal gain.


They also said they never in their long years of serving did they see a Vice President tell a foreign country to stop their investigation in 6 hours or no aid.

Whoa - I missed this yesterday.


Actually, they didn't answer the question. They both stayed absolutely silent, which could have lots of meanings. Maybe they hadn't, maybe they had but it was classified, maybe it didn't occur in the first place.

Not true. They answered. I was listening.
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Anonymous wrote:What proof is there that Schiff met with, or knows who the Whsitleblower is directly? None. Conjecture and another distraction from the core story.


We'll never know since Schiff won't testify and he will not let the WB testify. At least one of his staffers knows who it is.

And, if Schiff doesn't know who it is, how is he going to prevent members of Congress from stating his name or referring them for an ethics violation? How will he know?
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Anonymous wrote:For the people who have been saying that this is business as usual, you had two high ranking career public servants with nearly 80 years of service between them who stated that they had never in their long careers under Presidents of both parties encountered a President who used the powerful levers of foreign policy under his control for personal gain.


They also said they never in their long years of serving did they see a Vice President tell a foreign country to stop their investigation in 6 hours or no aid.

Whoa - I missed this yesterday.


Actually, they didn't answer the question. They both stayed absolutely silent, which could have lots of meanings. Maybe they hadn't, maybe they had but it was classified, maybe it didn't occur in the first place.


Maybe they recognized it for what it was- a conspiracy theory


Are you saying that believing that Biden demanded Ukraine stop the investigation into Burisma is a conspiracy theory?


It is a conspiracy theory. It has been debunked based on timing and broader context - it was bi-partisan to get rid of the Prosecutor, because HE WASN'T INVESTIGATING THE CORRUPTION - this was US Policy, and EU Policy. It was done because it was policy and not for Biden's personal gain. If you think this is real, then you have fallen prey to propaganda.


When Democrats use the term conspiracy theory, they are trying to hide the truth. You guys HONESTLY think Hunter Biden was qualified? He said himself he got the job due to who his father is.


So what? Do you know why everyone wanted the prosecutor gone? Because he wasn't investigating Burisma. Or others.
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Anonymous wrote:What proof is there that Schiff met with, or knows who the Whsitleblower is directly? None. Conjecture and another distraction from the core story.


We'll never know since Schiff won't testify and he will not let the WB testify. At least one of his staffers knows who it is.

And, if Schiff doesn't know who it is, how is he going to prevent members of Congress from stating his name or referring them for an ethics violation? How will he know?


If this is actually the most important issue to you, then I won't call you unAmerican. I'll just call you a poor excuse for an American.
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Anonymous wrote:For the people who have been saying that this is business as usual, you had two high ranking career public servants with nearly 80 years of service between them who stated that they had never in their long careers under Presidents of both parties encountered a President who used the powerful levers of foreign policy under his control for personal gain.


They also said they never in their long years of serving did they see a Vice President tell a foreign country to stop their investigation in 6 hours or no aid.

Whoa - I missed this yesterday.


Actually, they didn't answer the question. They both stayed absolutely silent, which could have lots of meanings. Maybe they hadn't, maybe they had but it was classified, maybe it didn't occur in the first place.


Maybe they recognized it for what it was- a conspiracy theory


Are you saying that believing that Biden demanded Ukraine stop the investigation into Burisma is a conspiracy theory?


It is a conspiracy theory. It has been debunked based on timing and broader context - it was bi-partisan to get rid of the Prosecutor, because HE WASN'T INVESTIGATING THE CORRUPTION - this was US Policy, and EU Policy. It was done because it was policy and not for Biden's personal gain. If you think this is real, then you have fallen prey to propaganda.


When Democrats use the term conspiracy theory, they are trying to hide the truth. You guys HONESTLY think Hunter Biden was qualified? He said himself he got the job due to who his father is.


Do you think Ivanka and Jared are qualified? No, and they are in far greater positions of power and *appointed* by her father. Nepotism at its worst; are you up in arms about this?

I doubt Hunter Biden was qualified, but that fact alone is immaterial to any of this discussion. The various allegations of corruption or wrong-doing by the Bidens has been debunked. You either need to keep up or stop lying if you are still on that track.
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from that liberal rag the Wall Street Journal on the testimony yesterday:

Kent Says Joe Biden Did Nothing Improper in Ukraine

George Kent—a career State Department foreign service officer with deep experience in Ukraine—rejected the notion that Joe Biden improperly interfered in Ukrainian domestic politics for the benefit of his son's company.

The central allegation is that Mr. Biden pressured Ukraine to fire Viktor Shokin from his job as prosecutor general of Ukraine in order to shield the energy company Burisma from scrutiny. Mr. Biden's son, Hunter Biden, was a board member of Burisma at the time.

Asked if there is any truth Mr. Trump’s theory that Mr. Biden asked to protect his son’s interests, Mr. Kent replied: "None whatsoever."

Mr. Biden did push for Mr. Shokin's removal. However, that was broadly in line with the policy of the United States and its international partners, who saw Mr. Shokin as insufficiently aggressive on corruption.

Asked if Mr. Biden acted in the interests of the United States in pursuing policies in Ukraine, Mr. Kent replied: "He did."

The Wall Street Journal has previously reported that Mr. Shokin appeared to be slowwalking an investigation of Burisma—not aggressively pursuing one, as Mr. Trump and his allies have alleged.

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/public-impeachment-hearing-taylor-kent/card/1573667389
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Anonymous wrote:For the people who have been saying that this is business as usual, you had two high ranking career public servants with nearly 80 years of service between them who stated that they had never in their long careers under Presidents of both parties encountered a President who used the powerful levers of foreign policy under his control for personal gain.


They also said they never in their long years of serving did they see a Vice President tell a foreign country to stop their investigation in 6 hours or no aid.

Whoa - I missed this yesterday.


Actually, they didn't answer the question. They both stayed absolutely silent, which could have lots of meanings. Maybe they hadn't, maybe they had but it was classified, maybe it didn't occur in the first place.


Maybe they recognized it for what it was- a conspiracy theory


Are you saying that believing that Biden demanded Ukraine stop the investigation into Burisma is a conspiracy theory?


It is a conspiracy theory. It has been debunked based on timing and broader context - it was bi-partisan to get rid of the Prosecutor, because HE WASN'T INVESTIGATING THE CORRUPTION - this was US Policy, and EU Policy. It was done because it was policy and not for Biden's personal gain. If you think this is real, then you have fallen prey to propaganda.


When Democrats use the term conspiracy theory, they are trying to hide the truth. You guys HONESTLY think Hunter Biden was qualified? He said himself he got the job due to who his father is.


Are you actually saying that it is okay to hold up military aid that was already approved by congress to our ally, who desperately needs it (and in fact 55 human beings were murdered because it was delayed) in order to force an investigation of a politician's child having a cushy position? Because WTF is going on in your brain? Did you sleep through the fact that the white house is now filled with grifting kids who are taking the US for every red cent they can get their money grubbing hands on? Let's talk about how Kushner did a deal with Saudi and ended going from serious debt to being solvent, and then gave the green light for the journalist investigating it to be murdered and dismembered. Let's talk about that.
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Anonymous wrote:What proof is there that Schiff met with, or knows who the Whsitleblower is directly? None. Conjecture and another distraction from the core story.


We'll never know since Schiff won't testify and he will not let the WB testify. At least one of his staffers knows who it is.

And, if Schiff doesn't know who it is, how is he going to prevent members of Congress from stating his name or referring them for an ethics violation? How will he know?


The whistleblower followed the correct protocol. This has been confirmed many times. Multiple witnesses and Trump himself have confirmed the whistleblower's allegations. The kerfuffle about the whistleblower is nothing more than another asinine attempt by the GOP to distract from the wrongdoing of this POTUS. They want to out the whistleblower, so that they can attack him/her and try to pretend that that would negate the reality of what Trump did, i.e., provide more distractions from the truth. They don't care that if they try to focus the attention on the whistleblower, they will put him/her in danger from all the crazy Trump fans. The POTUS himself made a threat on the whistleblower's life. The protection of the whistleblower is important for that person's safety and for the safety of future whistleblowers.
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Anonymous wrote:For the people who have been saying that this is business as usual, you had two high ranking career public servants with nearly 80 years of service between them who stated that they had never in their long careers under Presidents of both parties encountered a President who used the powerful levers of foreign policy under his control for personal gain.


They also said they never in their long years of serving did they see a Vice President tell a foreign country to stop their investigation in 6 hours or no aid.

Whoa - I missed this yesterday.


Actually, they didn't answer the question. They both stayed absolutely silent, which could have lots of meanings. Maybe they hadn't, maybe they had but it was classified, maybe it didn't occur in the first place.


Maybe they recognized it for what it was- a conspiracy theory


Are you saying that believing that Biden demanded Ukraine stop the investigation into Burisma is a conspiracy theory?


It is a conspiracy theory. It has been debunked based on timing and broader context - it was bi-partisan to get rid of the Prosecutor, because HE WASN'T INVESTIGATING THE CORRUPTION - this was US Policy, and EU Policy. It was done because it was policy and not for Biden's personal gain. If you think this is real, then you have fallen prey to propaganda.


When Democrats use the term conspiracy theory, they are trying to hide the truth. You guys HONESTLY think Hunter Biden was qualified? He said himself he got the job due to who his father is.


Are you actually saying that it is okay to hold up military aid that was already approved by congress to our ally, who desperately needs it (and in fact 55 human beings were murdered because it was delayed) in order to force an investigation of a politician's child having a cushy position? Because WTF is going on in your brain? Did you sleep through the fact that the white house is now filled with grifting kids who are taking the US for every red cent they can get their money grubbing hands on? Let's talk about how Kushner did a deal with Saudi and ended going from serious debt to being solvent, and then gave the green light for the journalist investigating it to be murdered and dismembered. Let's talk about that.


Amen. Anyone still barking up this tree about Hunter Biden is scarily stupid or morally bankrupt. Where is the outrage about Trumps kids?
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I don't think most people on corporate boards got their positions because of their qualifications.

W's oil company, Cheney as CEO of Halliburton, Barr's kids, DiGenova's kid, Anthony Kennedy's kid, Scalia's kid, Chelsea's reporting gig, Ivanka, Jared, Ronan Farrow, any Kennedy, Colin Powell's kid, the third Baldwin, Stallone's brother, Kavanaugh's daughter's starting role on the MS basketball team, etc etc. It's sketchy but not illegal.

On the other hand, using public resources to extort a country into manufacturing an investigation into a political rivial is highly illegal and a clearcut abuse of power.
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Anonymous wrote:For the people who have been saying that this is business as usual, you had two high ranking career public servants with nearly 80 years of service between them who stated that they had never in their long careers under Presidents of both parties encountered a President who used the powerful levers of foreign policy under his control for personal gain.


They also said they never in their long years of serving did they see a Vice President tell a foreign country to stop their investigation in 6 hours or no aid.

Whoa - I missed this yesterday.


Actually, they didn't answer the question. They both stayed absolutely silent, which could have lots of meanings. Maybe they hadn't, maybe they had but it was classified, maybe it didn't occur in the first place.


Maybe they recognized it for what it was- a conspiracy theory


Are you saying that believing that Biden demanded Ukraine stop the investigation into Burisma is a conspiracy theory?


It is a conspiracy theory. It has been debunked based on timing and broader context - it was bi-partisan to get rid of the Prosecutor, because HE WASN'T INVESTIGATING THE CORRUPTION - this was US Policy, and EU Policy. It was done because it was policy and not for Biden's personal gain. If you think this is real, then you have fallen prey to propaganda.


When Democrats use the term conspiracy theory, they are trying to hide the truth. You guys HONESTLY think Hunter Biden was qualified? He said himself he got the job due to who his father is.


A private company hiring a private citizen. What would be the reaction, if say, Hunter Biden were a senior white house aid, raking in $82M a year from who knows where?
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Anonymous wrote:What proof is there that Schiff met with, or knows who the Whsitleblower is directly? None. Conjecture and another distraction from the core story.


We'll never know since Schiff won't testify and he will not let the WB testify. At least one of his staffers knows who it is.

And, if Schiff doesn't know who it is, how is he going to prevent members of Congress from stating his name or referring them for an ethics violation? How will he know?


If the GOP start rattling off the name of someone who's identity hasn't been part of the discussion or witness list to date, that would be a pretty big tell, no? As it is, there are two or three people who the right wing mob have "identified" as the whistleblower, and they have been wrong, yet those peoples live, and their families lives, are in danger.
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