Would you take Tufts, Emory, Wash U over UVA?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:STL is a sh1thole and WashU grads are weirdos. Veto.
Emory? Too far South.
Tufts? Maybe.
UVA? Maybe, if Tufts isn’t an option.

Who are these people picking Tufts over UVa? I need to meet them.

If money doesn’t matter for sure tufts over uva, especially if I was a minority or not conventionally attractive, white, and southern.

Forty-percent of UVA's entering class of 2023 is minority, an all time high, so you would be quite wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:STL is a sh1thole and WashU grads are weirdos. Veto.
Emory? Too far South.
Tufts? Maybe.
UVA? Maybe, if Tufts isn’t an option.

Who are these people picking Tufts over UVa? I need to meet them.

Parchment has data on which school is chosen by cross admits and it is 75% Tufts and 25% UVA. The 95% confidence interval is Tufts 63.9% to 86.8% and UVA 13.2% to 36.1%. Parchment is based on actual data from high schools.

UVA gets most of its applicants from OOS and, while the admit rate is low at about 19%, the yield rate is pretty low as well. This is because UVA OOS costs are pretty much in line with private schools and it may well be offering aid packages with more loans vs grant aid vs. those privates. Tufts has an acceptance rate of only 14%. Its other stats are also quite strong. You are underestimating how well regarded it is in certain circles, particularly in the NE. Most of the cross admits to these schools are going to be OOS applicants.

BTW, I wouldn't argue choosing Tufts over UVA if you have in-state tuition.

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Tufts+University&with=University+of+Virginia

Parchment is one of the most unreliable sources on the web. It is worse than naviance.

Do you have another source to refute?

UVA no. 3 greatest public university after UCLA and Berkeley for the last 27 years. USN&WR. That's all I need to know. https://news.virginia.edu/content/us-news-19-rankings-rate-uva-no-3-public-and-no-2-best-value-among-publics

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:STL is a sh1thole and WashU grads are weirdos. Veto.
Emory? Too far South.
Tufts? Maybe.
UVA? Maybe, if Tufts isn’t an option.

Who are these people picking Tufts over UVa? I need to meet them.

Parchment has data on which school is chosen by cross admits and it is 75% Tufts and 25% UVA. The 95% confidence interval is Tufts 63.9% to 86.8% and UVA 13.2% to 36.1%. Parchment is based on actual data from high schools.

UVA gets most of its applicants from OOS and, while the admit rate is low at about 19%, the yield rate is pretty low as well. This is because UVA OOS costs are pretty much in line with private schools and it may well be offering aid packages with more loans vs grant aid vs. those privates. Tufts has an acceptance rate of only 14%. Its other stats are also quite strong. You are underestimating how well regarded it is in certain circles, particularly in the NE. Most of the cross admits to these schools are going to be OOS applicants.

BTW, I wouldn't argue choosing Tufts over UVA if you have in-state tuition.

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Tufts+University&with=University+of+Virginia

Parchment is one of the most unreliable sources on the web. It is worse than naviance.

Do you have another source to refute?

UVA no. 3 greatest public university after UCLA and Berkeley for the last 27 years. USN&WR. That's all I need to know. https://news.virginia.edu/content/us-news-19-rankings-rate-uva-no-3-public-and-no-2-best-value-among-publics

BOOM

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:STL is a sh1thole and WashU grads are weirdos. Veto.
Emory? Too far South.
Tufts? Maybe.
UVA? Maybe, if Tufts isn’t an option.

Who are these people picking Tufts over UVa? I need to meet them.

Parchment has data on which school is chosen by cross admits and it is 75% Tufts and 25% UVA. The 95% confidence interval is Tufts 63.9% to 86.8% and UVA 13.2% to 36.1%. Parchment is based on actual data from high schools.

UVA gets most of its applicants from OOS and, while the admit rate is low at about 19%, the yield rate is pretty low as well. This is because UVA OOS costs are pretty much in line with private schools and it may well be offering aid packages with more loans vs grant aid vs. those privates. Tufts has an acceptance rate of only 14%. Its other stats are also quite strong. You are underestimating how well regarded it is in certain circles, particularly in the NE. Most of the cross admits to these schools are going to be OOS applicants.

BTW, I wouldn't argue choosing Tufts over UVA if you have in-state tuition.

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Tufts+University&with=University+of+Virginia

Parchment is one of the most unreliable sources on the web. It is worse than naviance.

Do you have another source to refute?

UVA no. 3 greatest public university after UCLA and Berkeley for the last 27 years. USN&WR. That's all I need to know. https://news.virginia.edu/content/us-news-19-rankings-rate-uva-no-3-public-and-no-2-best-value-among-publics

BOOM

Which of course has absolutely nothing to do with the question at hand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:STL is a sh1thole and WashU grads are weirdos. Veto.
Emory? Too far South.
Tufts? Maybe.
UVA? Maybe, if Tufts isn’t an option.

Who are these people picking Tufts over UVa? I need to meet them.

Parchment has data on which school is chosen by cross admits and it is 75% Tufts and 25% UVA. The 95% confidence interval is Tufts 63.9% to 86.8% and UVA 13.2% to 36.1%. Parchment is based on actual data from high schools.

UVA gets most of its applicants from OOS and, while the admit rate is low at about 19%, the yield rate is pretty low as well. This is because UVA OOS costs are pretty much in line with private schools and it may well be offering aid packages with more loans vs grant aid vs. those privates. Tufts has an acceptance rate of only 14%. Its other stats are also quite strong. You are underestimating how well regarded it is in certain circles, particularly in the NE. Most of the cross admits to these schools are going to be OOS applicants.

BTW, I wouldn't argue choosing Tufts over UVA if you have in-state tuition.

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Tufts+University&with=University+of+Virginia

Parchment is one of the most unreliable sources on the web. It is worse than naviance.

Do you have another source to refute?

UVA no. 3 greatest public university after UCLA and Berkeley for the last 27 years. USN&WR. That's all I need to know. https://news.virginia.edu/content/us-news-19-rankings-rate-uva-no-3-public-and-no-2-best-value-among-publics

LOL. So the answer is, no, you don’t have a source to refute. Are you in HS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:STL is a sh1thole and WashU grads are weirdos. Veto.
Emory? Too far South.
Tufts? Maybe.
UVA? Maybe, if Tufts isn’t an option.

Who are these people picking Tufts over UVa? I need to meet them.

Parchment has data on which school is chosen by cross admits and it is 75% Tufts and 25% UVA. The 95% confidence interval is Tufts 63.9% to 86.8% and UVA 13.2% to 36.1%. Parchment is based on actual data from high schools.

UVA gets most of its applicants from OOS and, while the admit rate is low at about 19%, the yield rate is pretty low as well. This is because UVA OOS costs are pretty much in line with private schools and it may well be offering aid packages with more loans vs grant aid vs. those privates. Tufts has an acceptance rate of only 14%. Its other stats are also quite strong. You are underestimating how well regarded it is in certain circles, particularly in the NE. Most of the cross admits to these schools are going to be OOS applicants.

BTW, I wouldn't argue choosing Tufts over UVA if you have in-state tuition.

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Tufts+University&with=University+of+Virginia

Parchment is one of the most unreliable sources on the web. It is worse than naviance.

Do you have another source to refute?

Somehow Tufts gets decent students. Tufts has middle 50% on SAT of 1380-1530 and ACT of 31-34. UVA has middle 50% on SAT of 1330-1500 and ACT of 30-34.

LOL. “Somehow”. Maybe because it’s a decent school.

[Anonymous]

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Forty-percent of UVA's entering class of 2023 is minority, an all time high, so you would be quite wrong.

You're mistaken. 40% of admitted students, not attending.

The Class of 2023 speaks to the University’s commitment to making an affordable, world-class education available to high-achieving students from all walks of life. According to the Office of Admission’s preliminary data, a record 40 percent of the accepted students are minorities – an increase of 5 percent from last year. Additionally, offers to first-generation college students rose from 10 percent to 11.5 percent.

[Anonymous]

Clearly, an ivy IS worth it though I think and probably any other top ten if not ivy. But Probably not Emory, Tufts, or Wash U. What about over William and Mary though? They are ranked a fair bit higher than W&M. Clearly, not more than UVA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Clearly, an ivy IS worth it though I think and probably any other top ten if not ivy. But Probably not Emory, Tufts, or Wash U. What about over William and Mary though? They are ranked a fair bit higher than W&M. Clearly, not more than UVA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Clearly, an ivy IS worth it though I think and probably any other top ten if not ivy. But Probably not Emory, Tufts, or Wash U. What about over William and Mary though? They are ranked a fair bit higher than W&M. Clearly, not more than UVA.

Emory, Tufts, WashU vs. W&M in state? I don't think there would really be any outcome advantage for Emory, Tufts WashU over W&M. OP was interested in law admissions. Law schools in my view are interested in stats (LSAT and GPA) and school reputation is probably the tie breaker at the most selective (Harvard, Yale), but the preference there is bestowed largely among the top (Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, etc.), but diminishing rapidly. The same applies for medical school. W&M graduates have essentially the same LSAT and GPA scores as Emory and UVA grads. WashU and Tufts have higher LSATs, but that would be predictable because they have somewhat higher SATs coming in (and for top law schools you should be looking at 75th percentile SAT). WashU and Tufts grads on average may have some advantage due to that somewhat higher LSAT score, but I don't think an applicant from any of these schools would have very different odds if they had the same stats. A Harvard grad probably would, though (although the application reviewer would probably think they had a bad day on the LSAT).

Prestige matters more in some areas. If you want to get a prime spot on Wall Street for instance, they will recruit from select business schools, but they will recruit outside of business schools at top schools like Ivy. They don't do that elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly, an ivy IS worth it though I think and probably any other top ten if not ivy. But Probably not Emory, Tufts, or Wash U. What about over William and Mary though? They are ranked a fair bit higher than W&M. Clearly, not more than UVA.

Emory, Tufts, WashU vs. W&M in state? I don't think there would really be any outcome advantage for Emory, Tufts WashU over W&M. OP was interested in law admissions. Law schools in my view are interested in stats (LSAT and GPA) and school reputation is probably the tie breaker at the most selective (Harvard, Yale), but the preference there is bestowed largely among the top (Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, etc.), but diminishing rapidly. The same applies for medical school. W&M graduates have essentially the same LSAT and GPA scores as Emory and UVA grads. WashU and Tufts have higher LSATs, but that would be predictable because they have somewhat higher SATs coming in (and for top law schools you should be looking at 75th percentile SAT). WashU and Tufts grads on average may have some advantage due to that somewhat higher LSAT score, but I don't think an applicant from any of these schools would have very different odds if they had the same stats. A Harvard grad probably would, though (although the application reviewer would probably think they had a bad day on the LSAT).

Prestige matters more in some areas. If you want to get a prime spot on Wall Street for instance, they will recruit from select business schools, but they will recruit outside of business schools at top schools like Ivy. They don't do that elsewhere.

I wouldn't roll all the Ivy league in together. There is HYP at the top. By the time you get to Cornell, I don't think there is much advantage to Cornell over any of these schools, and if so, it would be in engineering.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly, an ivy IS worth it though I think and probably any other top ten if not ivy. But Probably not Emory, Tufts, or Wash U. What about over William and Mary though? They are ranked a fair bit higher than W&M. Clearly, not more than UVA.

This is probably someone just trying to troll William and Mary and not interested in an answer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Clearly, an ivy IS worth it though I think and probably any other top ten if not ivy. But Probably not Emory, Tufts, or Wash U. What about over William and Mary though? They are ranked a fair bit higher than W&M. Clearly, not more than UVA.

Cornell is worth it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clearly, an ivy IS worth it though I think and probably any other top ten if not ivy. But Probably not Emory, Tufts, or Wash U. What about over William and Mary though? They are ranked a fair bit higher than W&M. Clearly, not more than UVA.

Emory, Tufts, WashU vs. W&M in state? I don't think there would really be any outcome advantage for Emory, Tufts WashU over W&M. OP was interested in law admissions. Law schools in my view are interested in stats (LSAT and GPA) and school reputation is probably the tie breaker at the most selective (Harvard, Yale), but the preference there is bestowed largely among the top (Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, etc.), but diminishing rapidly. The same applies for medical school. W&M graduates have essentially the same LSAT and GPA scores as Emory and UVA grads. WashU and Tufts have higher LSATs, but that would be predictable because they have somewhat higher SATs coming in (and for top law schools you should be looking at 75th percentile SAT). WashU and Tufts grads on average may have some advantage due to that somewhat higher LSAT score, but I don't think an applicant from any of these schools would have very different odds if they had the same stats. A Harvard grad probably would, though (although the application reviewer would probably think they had a bad day on the LSAT).

Prestige matters more in some areas. If you want to get a prime spot on Wall Street for instance, they will recruit from select business schools, but they will recruit outside of business schools at top schools like Ivy. They don't do that elsewhere.

Not true! Vandy and Duke say hello. They recruit outside the business school when the undergrad does not have a business school, like the aforementioned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clearly, an ivy IS worth it though I think and probably any other top ten if not ivy. But Probably not Emory, Tufts, or Wash U. What about over William and Mary though? They are ranked a fair bit higher than W&M. Clearly, not more than UVA.

Emory, Tufts, WashU vs. W&M in state? I don't think there would really be any outcome advantage for Emory, Tufts WashU over W&M. OP was interested in law admissions. Law schools in my view are interested in stats (LSAT and GPA) and school reputation is probably the tie breaker at the most selective (Harvard, Yale), but the preference there is bestowed largely among the top (Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, etc.), but diminishing rapidly. The same applies for medical school. W&M graduates have essentially the same LSAT and GPA scores as Emory and UVA grads. WashU and Tufts have higher LSATs, but that would be predictable because they have somewhat higher SATs coming in (and for top law schools you should be looking at 75th percentile SAT). WashU and Tufts grads on average may have some advantage due to that somewhat higher LSAT score, but I don't think an applicant from any of these schools would have very different odds if they had the same stats. A Harvard grad probably would, though (although the application reviewer would probably think they had a bad day on the LSAT).

Prestige matters more in some areas. If you want to get a prime spot on Wall Street for instance, they will recruit from select business schools, but they will recruit outside of business schools at top schools like Ivy. They don't do that elsewhere.

Not true! Vandy and Duke say hello. They recruit outside the business school when the undergrad does not have a business school, like the aforementioned.

"Like Ivy" wasn't confined to just Ivy. I just know that when I worked in business consulting, there tended to be more liberal arts and sciences students from schools like Princeton than from elsewhere.