Court: TJ's New Admission Policy Does Not Discriminate

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Anonymous wrote:The trigger for the change was the rampant test buying and cheating which they had to stop.


Define rampant.


Dp

If the test is prone to being bought or cheated on, then it doesn’t matter if 5% of the people have it, or 50%.

Yeah, they want to keep cheating because they are the ones with the advantage.


One of the many centers doing this took out an ad in the paper claiming that 30% of the TJ freshman class had gone to their center and included student names. Now if just one center had 30% of the students, I'd expect the actual number to be closer to 90%. Basically if you didn't have advanced access to the test questions, you had almost no chance of competing or being selected with that process.


Just because they had a high success rate, doesn’t mean they were cheating.

I still stand by my original point that “ If the test is prone to being bought or cheated on, then it doesn’t matter if 5% of the people have it, or 50%.”


It was way more than 50%, and although you may not care about cheating, the school board did so changed the selection criteria accordingly.


You keep lying about that. The school board never mentioned it.


Stop it with the facts. That's not how this board works.


Yes stop it with the imaginary facts that contradict proven truths!
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Anonymous wrote:Let's demolish racial discrimination in school admissions - only days till the ruling!


It will be a great day for diversity of ideas, equitable admissions process and inclusion of Asians as a disadvantaged minority group. Amen.


I heard Asians were the majority at TJ.


Yes they are which makes all this talk about discrimination seem off.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Let's demolish racial discrimination in school admissions - only days till the ruling!


It will be a great day for diversity of ideas, equitable admissions process and inclusion of Asians as a disadvantaged minority group. Amen.


I heard Asians were the majority at TJ.


Yes they are which makes all this talk about discrimination seem off.


Why is your logic so simplistic? It makes one think you never got beyond long division in school.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's demolish racial discrimination in school admissions - only days till the ruling!


It will be a great day for diversity of ideas, equitable admissions process and inclusion of Asians as a disadvantaged minority group. Amen.


I heard Asians were the majority at TJ.


Yes they are which makes all this talk about discrimination seem off.


Why is your logic so simplistic? It makes one think you never got beyond long division in school.


Asians are 15% of the county population and only 70% of all TJ students. It's literally nuts some people see this as discrimination. They doing better than any other group.
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When a group of people is good enough to fill 95% of a team, 70% does feel like discrimination.

Another example, the NBA, Athletics teams, NFL, NHL...Well, Asians are not represented per their population % there and NO ONE seems to be saying "Let's fix this"
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Anonymous wrote:When a group of people is good enough to fill 95% of a team, 70% does feel like discrimination.

Another example, the NBA, Athletics teams, NFL, NHL...Well, Asians are not represented per their population % there and NO ONE seems to be saying "Let's fix this"


Why should someone else be expected to represent Asian American interests? If they want it so badly, Asian Americans need to develop their own diversity, equity & inclusion industry, financially and politically, to assert their census status as a minority populace, and defend merit based access to advanced education.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When a group of people is good enough to fill 95% of a team, 70% does feel like discrimination.

Another example, the NBA, Athletics teams, NFL, NHL...Well, Asians are not represented per their population % there and NO ONE seems to be saying "Let's fix this"


Why should someone else be expected to represent Asian American interests? If they want it so badly, Asian Americans need to develop their own diversity, equity & inclusion industry, financially and politically, to assert their census status as a minority populace, and defend merit based access to advanced education.


We are.... at the Supreme court
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:When a group of people is good enough to fill 95% of a team, 70% does feel like discrimination.

Another example, the NBA, Athletics teams, NFL, NHL...Well, Asians are not represented per their population % there and NO ONE seems to be saying "Let's fix this"


Why should someone else be expected to represent Asian American interests? If they want it so badly, Asian Americans need to develop their own diversity, equity & inclusion industry, financially and politically, to assert their census status as a minority populace, and defend merit based access to advanced education.


Not sure about any of that but glad that FCPS has raised the merit standards for TJ by eliminating the rampant cheating that had tainted admissions in previous years.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When a group of people is good enough to fill 95% of a team, 70% does feel like discrimination.

Another example, the NBA, Athletics teams, NFL, NHL...Well, Asians are not represented per their population % there and NO ONE seems to be saying "Let's fix this"


Why should someone else be expected to represent Asian American interests? If they want it so badly, Asian Americans need to develop their own diversity, equity & inclusion industry, financially and politically, to assert their census status as a minority populace, and defend merit based access to advanced education.


Not sure about any of that but glad that FCPS has raised the merit standards for TJ by eliminating the rampant cheating that had tainted admissions in previous years.

Continually calling a bunch of kids cheaters without any proof doesn’t seem right.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When a group of people is good enough to fill 95% of a team, 70% does feel like discrimination.

Another example, the NBA, Athletics teams, NFL, NHL...Well, Asians are not represented per their population % there and NO ONE seems to be saying "Let's fix this"


Why should someone else be expected to represent Asian American interests? If they want it so badly, Asian Americans need to develop their own diversity, equity & inclusion industry, financially and politically, to assert their census status as a minority populace, and defend merit based access to advanced education.


Not sure about any of that but glad that FCPS has raised the merit standards for TJ by eliminating the rampant cheating that had tainted admissions in previous years.


Hmm.... Do you have any proof/reference? Looking at the performance for AMC 10 etc. it seems class of 2025 and beyond are lagging behind other local schools. PSAT/NMSQT this year will be another benchmark for the class of 2025. Science Olympiad and other Science/Math/Academic competitions will still have some seniors. Drama and other non-stem activities including sports; maybe is getting better
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When a group of people is good enough to fill 95% of a team, 70% does feel like discrimination.

Another example, the NBA, Athletics teams, NFL, NHL...Well, Asians are not represented per their population % there and NO ONE seems to be saying "Let's fix this"


Why should someone else be expected to represent Asian American interests? If they want it so badly, Asian Americans need to develop their own diversity, equity & inclusion industry, financially and politically, to assert their census status as a minority populace, and defend merit based access to advanced education.


Not sure about any of that but glad that FCPS has raised the merit standards for TJ by eliminating the rampant cheating that had tainted admissions in previous years.

Continually calling a bunch of kids cheaters without any proof doesn’t seem right.


The proof was posted here many many times. Wealthy families were gaming admissions by purchasing access to the test questions from various prep centers. The final straw was when one center took out an ad in the paper to boast how 30% of TJ's entering class were their clients and listed their names.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When a group of people is good enough to fill 95% of a team, 70% does feel like discrimination.

Another example, the NBA, Athletics teams, NFL, NHL...Well, Asians are not represented per their population % there and NO ONE seems to be saying "Let's fix this"


Why should someone else be expected to represent Asian American interests? If they want it so badly, Asian Americans need to develop their own diversity, equity & inclusion industry, financially and politically, to assert their census status as a minority populace, and defend merit based access to advanced education.


Not sure about any of that but glad that FCPS has raised the merit standards for TJ by eliminating the rampant cheating that had tainted admissions in previous years.


Hmm.... Do you have any proof/reference? Looking at the performance for AMC 10 etc. it seems class of 2025 and beyond are lagging behind other local schools. PSAT/NMSQT this year will be another benchmark for the class of 2025. Science Olympiad and other Science/Math/Academic competitions will still have some seniors. Drama and other non-stem activities including sports; maybe is getting better


That's not what I heard. The new students are stronger than ever whereas the previous classes mostly got in because of test buying.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When a group of people is good enough to fill 95% of a team, 70% does feel like discrimination.

Another example, the NBA, Athletics teams, NFL, NHL...Well, Asians are not represented per their population % there and NO ONE seems to be saying "Let's fix this"


Why should someone else be expected to represent Asian American interests? If they want it so badly, Asian Americans need to develop their own diversity, equity & inclusion industry, financially and politically, to assert their census status as a minority populace, and defend merit based access to advanced education.


Not sure about any of that but glad that FCPS has raised the merit standards for TJ by eliminating the rampant cheating that had tainted admissions in previous years.


Hmm.... Do you have any proof/reference? Looking at the performance for AMC 10 etc. it seems class of 2025 and beyond are lagging behind other local schools. PSAT/NMSQT this year will be another benchmark for the class of 2025. Science Olympiad and other Science/Math/Academic competitions will still have some seniors. Drama and other non-stem activities including sports; maybe is getting better


That's not what I heard. The new students are stronger than ever whereas the previous classes mostly got in because of test buying.


It’s not something you “heard.” It’s something you repeat ad nauseum with no proof to advance your political agenda.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When a group of people is good enough to fill 95% of a team, 70% does feel like discrimination.

Another example, the NBA, Athletics teams, NFL, NHL...Well, Asians are not represented per their population % there and NO ONE seems to be saying "Let's fix this"


Why should someone else be expected to represent Asian American interests? If they want it so badly, Asian Americans need to develop their own diversity, equity & inclusion industry, financially and politically, to assert their census status as a minority populace, and defend merit based access to advanced education.


Not sure about any of that but glad that FCPS has raised the merit standards for TJ by eliminating the rampant cheating that had tainted admissions in previous years.


Hmm.... Do you have any proof/reference? Looking at the performance for AMC 10 etc. it seems class of 2025 and beyond are lagging behind other local schools. PSAT/NMSQT this year will be another benchmark for the class of 2025. Science Olympiad and other Science/Math/Academic competitions will still have some seniors. Drama and other non-stem activities including sports; maybe is getting better


That's not what I heard. The new students are stronger than ever whereas the previous classes mostly got in because of test buying.


True but some are in denial because they miss being able to buy their average but prepped children into TJ.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When a group of people is good enough to fill 95% of a team, 70% does feel like discrimination.

Another example, the NBA, Athletics teams, NFL, NHL...Well, Asians are not represented per their population % there and NO ONE seems to be saying "Let's fix this"


Why should someone else be expected to represent Asian American interests? If they want it so badly, Asian Americans need to develop their own diversity, equity & inclusion industry, financially and politically, to assert their census status as a minority populace, and defend merit based access to advanced education.


Not sure about any of that but glad that FCPS has raised the merit standards for TJ by eliminating the rampant cheating that had tainted admissions in previous years.

Continually calling a bunch of kids cheaters without any proof doesn’t seem right.


The proof was posted here many many times. Wealthy families were gaming admissions by purchasing access to the test questions from various prep centers. The final straw was when one center took out an ad in the paper to boast how 30% of TJ's entering class were their clients and listed their names.

Post it. Repeating this over and over is not proof.
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