So what kind of King will Charles be?

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Anonymous wrote:The public appearances are a small portion of their work, most happens behind the scenes. King Charles is making a state visit, his first, to France next month. Sets the tone and clearly a break with the deceased Queen's priorities.


I am asking this sincerely: How so? Was the Queen more internally focused? I don't remember her making a lot of state visits that weren't part of the Commonwealth. But she had a 70 year reign and I'm not an avid royal watcher, so may I am wrong.

Does William have any particular "cause" or issue like Charles does with the environment or Kate with early childhood education?

William’s been working on this little thing called Earthshot……
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Anonymous wrote:Charles promoted William to PoW the second the Queen passed. It’s petty of him to hold out on the Edinburgh title for his brother who by all accounts has served loyally.

Why didn’t the Queen give it away after Prince Philip died?


+1. It might be too soon after Philip’s death.

The title automatically passed to Charles upon Philip's death, as his eldest son, now that the title has merged with the Crown, Charles can create the title again, and pass it on.


I don’t think he’ll give it to Edward. He doesn’t like Edward and it goes against his long standing position of slimming down the extra royals. Sophie was trying so hard to get close to the Queen in hopes that she would intervene. I’m guessing that this won’t sway Charles. I think he will not fill it and leave it for William to give to his second son instead.
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Anonymous wrote:Charles promoted William to PoW the second the Queen passed. It’s petty of him to hold out on the Edinburgh title for his brother who by all accounts has served loyally.

Why didn’t the Queen give it away after Prince Philip died?


+1. It might be too soon after Philip’s death.

The title automatically passed to Charles upon Philip's death, as his eldest son, now that the title has merged with the Crown, Charles can create the title again, and pass it on.


I don’t think he’ll give it to Edward. He doesn’t like Edward and it goes against his long standing position of slimming down the extra royals. Sophie was trying so hard to get close to the Queen in hopes that she would intervene. I’m guessing that this won’t sway Charles. I think he will not fill it and leave it for William to give to his second son instead.

I thought Andrew was the one Charles never liked. Edward has always seemed harmless and the royals will still need him and Sophie.
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Anonymous wrote:Charles promoted William to PoW the second the Queen passed. It’s petty of him to hold out on the Edinburgh title for his brother who by all accounts has served loyally.

Why didn’t the Queen give it away after Prince Philip died?


+1. It might be too soon after Philip’s death.

The title automatically passed to Charles upon Philip's death, as his eldest son, now that the title has merged with the Crown, Charles can create the title again, and pass it on.


I don’t think he’ll give it to Edward. He doesn’t like Edward and it goes against his long standing position of slimming down the extra royals. Sophie was trying so hard to get close to the Queen in hopes that she would intervene. I’m guessing that this won’t sway Charles. I think he will not fill it and leave it for William to give to his second son instead.

I thought Andrew was the one Charles never liked. Edward has always seemed harmless and the royals will still need him and Sophie.


I think there is longstanding animosity between Charles and Andrew that dates back to their childhood, but I think by the time Edward was born Charles basically no longer lived at home and therefore they have less of a brotherly relationship than like that of an uncle and nephew. I don't think he dislikes Edward so much as he does not see him as a core family member.

My wildcard suggestion is that he give it to Anne! Who otherwise doesn't have a real formal role in the family but is well liked and has little else to do with her children now grown.
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Anonymous wrote:Shall we place bets on who Charles gives new titles to? I think Edward will be named Duke of edinborough, but Archie and Lili will not be named prince or princess due to “slimming down the monarchy. Going forward George’s children will have titles but not Charlotte or Louis’s children.

The Sussex children became prince and princess as soon as their grandfather became king.


Theoretically. But not officially. Check the Royal website. The Wales were updated but not Archie and Lili.

https://www.royal.uk/succession

It’s possible it’s not going to happen.

There’s nothing official. They are prince and princess, providing their parents want to call them that. The only question is whether they get the HRH.


If they are going to be Prince and Princess, that sight will be updated. Someone has made a conscious choice not to do it (yet.) I’d be surprised if they are given HRH being that their parents are not allowed to use HRH.


I have to admit it would irritate me to no end that there's a Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie and my kids didn't get the same title. And I understand there is protocol and minutiae and differentiation between HRH and Prince/Princess, but it's these little digs that continue to drive gossip and create more ill will. If I was Charles, that would be my primary concern with my family legacy. Because there's no mistake about it, if God forbid a plague wipes out everyone from Charles to Louis, Harry is the monarch. Everyone knows that. Don't create an artificial distinction under the guise of slimming down the Royal family. It can be decided/implemented in William's generation.

Maybe it’s also a lesson to not go out and publicly trash your family and then expect that everything will remain peachy.


Maybe they should have treated his wife better.


Maybe she could have taken 5 minutes to figure out what she was getting herself into ahead of time. She could have spared everyone all the pain by storming off before her fairytale wedding. But we all know why that didn’t happen. If she wants the features of royal life, she has to live there and participate. [/quote]

Marlarkey. DCUM tell women all the time they do not have to deal with their in-laws if they are being treated badly.
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Anonymous wrote:Charles promoted William to PoW the second the Queen passed. It’s petty of him to hold out on the Edinburgh title for his brother who by all accounts has served loyally.

Why didn’t the Queen give it away after Prince Philip died?


+1. It might be too soon after Philip’s death.

The title automatically passed to Charles upon Philip's death, as his eldest son, now that the title has merged with the Crown, Charles can create the title again, and pass it on.


I don’t think he’ll give it to Edward. He doesn’t like Edward and it goes against his long standing position of slimming down the extra royals. Sophie was trying so hard to get close to the Queen in hopes that she would intervene. I’m guessing that this won’t sway Charles. I think he will not fill it and leave it for William to give to his second son instead.

I thought Andrew was the one Charles never liked. Edward has always seemed harmless and the royals will still need him and Sophie.


I think there is longstanding animosity between Charles and Andrew that dates back to their childhood, but I think by the time Edward was born Charles basically no longer lived at home and therefore they have less of a brotherly relationship than like that of an uncle and nephew. I don't think he dislikes Edward so much as he does not see him as a core family member.

My wildcard suggestion is that he give it to Anne! Who otherwise doesn't have a real formal role in the family but is well liked and has little else to do with her children now grown.


She is the Princess Royal and doesn’t need another title.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Charles promoted William to PoW the second the Queen passed. It’s petty of him to hold out on the Edinburgh title for his brother who by all accounts has served loyally.

Why didn’t the Queen give it away after Prince Philip died?


+1. It might be too soon after Philip’s death.

The title automatically passed to Charles upon Philip's death, as his eldest son, now that the title has merged with the Crown, Charles can create the title again, and pass it on.


I don’t think he’ll give it to Edward. He doesn’t like Edward and it goes against his long standing position of slimming down the extra royals. Sophie was trying so hard to get close to the Queen in hopes that she would intervene. I’m guessing that this won’t sway Charles. I think he will not fill it and leave it for William to give to his second son instead.


LOL, are you part of Edward and Sophie’s innermost circle of confidantes? Didn’t think so. You know absolutely nothing. There are some ridiculously self-important posters in this form.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Charles promoted William to PoW the second the Queen passed. It’s petty of him to hold out on the Edinburgh title for his brother who by all accounts has served loyally.

Why didn’t the Queen give it away after Prince Philip died?


+1. It might be too soon after Philip’s death.

The title automatically passed to Charles upon Philip's death, as his eldest son, now that the title has merged with the Crown, Charles can create the title again, and pass it on.


I don’t think he’ll give it to Edward. He doesn’t like Edward and it goes against his long standing position of slimming down the extra royals. Sophie was trying so hard to get close to the Queen in hopes that she would intervene. I’m guessing that this won’t sway Charles. I think he will not fill it and leave it for William to give to his second son instead.


It does not work that way, the RF does not renege on promises and titles earmarked and communicated, publicly communicated might i add. Whatever decisions Charles makes will be for the next Gen, William and Harry's kids and forward. Also, William will have a lot of say in that decision because once you put rules in place for how you slim the monarchy, you're not going back.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Charles promoted William to PoW the second the Queen passed. It’s petty of him to hold out on the Edinburgh title for his brother who by all accounts has served loyally.

Why didn’t the Queen give it away after Prince Philip died?


+1. It might be too soon after Philip’s death.

The title automatically passed to Charles upon Philip's death, as his eldest son, now that the title has merged with the Crown, Charles can create the title again, and pass it on.


I don’t think he’ll give it to Edward. He doesn’t like Edward and it goes against his long standing position of slimming down the extra royals. Sophie was trying so hard to get close to the Queen in hopes that she would intervene. I’m guessing that this won’t sway Charles. I think he will not fill it and leave it for William to give to his second son instead.


It does not work that way, the RF does not renege on promises and titles earmarked and communicated, publicly communicated might i add. Whatever decisions Charles makes will be for the next Gen, William and Harry's kids and forward. Also, William will have a lot of say in that decision because once you put rules in place for how you slim the monarchy, you're not going back.


I'm not sure. Since the title of Duke of Edinborough technically went to Charles upon Philips death (as eldest son) I think they needed to wait for Charles to ascend in order for all of his previous titles to become merged back into the crown. I think I read something about this. So it wasn't available to be given to someone else until the Queen passed away. We will see.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Charles promoted William to PoW the second the Queen passed. It’s petty of him to hold out on the Edinburgh title for his brother who by all accounts has served loyally.

Why didn’t the Queen give it away after Prince Philip died?


+1. It might be too soon after Philip’s death.

The title automatically passed to Charles upon Philip's death, as his eldest son, now that the title has merged with the Crown, Charles can create the title again, and pass it on.


I don’t think he’ll give it to Edward. He doesn’t like Edward and it goes against his long standing position of slimming down the extra royals. Sophie was trying so hard to get close to the Queen in hopes that she would intervene. I’m guessing that this won’t sway Charles. I think he will not fill it and leave it for William to give to his second son instead.


It does not work that way, the RF does not renege on promises and titles earmarked and communicated, publicly communicated might i add. Whatever decisions Charles makes will be for the next Gen, William and Harry's kids and forward. Also, William will have a lot of say in that decision because once you put rules in place for how you slim the monarchy, you're not going back.


I'm not sure. Since the title of Duke of Edinborough technically went to Charles upon Philips death (as eldest son) I think they needed to wait for Charles to ascend in order for all of his previous titles to become merged back into the crown. I think I read something about this. So it wasn't available to be given to someone else until the Queen passed away. We will see.


pp here. I don't disagree with you, i think it's just a matter of technicality why Edward does not have the title yet, there is no chance he does not get that title. Charles will not slim the monarchy by stripping titles or reneging on titles earmarked during his mothers reign. I think he'll change the criteria for who gets titles in the future.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Charles promoted William to PoW the second the Queen passed. It’s petty of him to hold out on the Edinburgh title for his brother who by all accounts has served loyally.

Why didn’t the Queen give it away after Prince Philip died?


+1. It might be too soon after Philip’s death.

The title automatically passed to Charles upon Philip's death, as his eldest son, now that the title has merged with the Crown, Charles can create the title again, and pass it on.


I don’t think he’ll give it to Edward. He doesn’t like Edward and it goes against his long standing position of slimming down the extra royals. Sophie was trying so hard to get close to the Queen in hopes that she would intervene. I’m guessing that this won’t sway Charles. I think he will not fill it and leave it for William to give to his second son instead.


It does not work that way, the RF does not renege on promises and titles earmarked and communicated, publicly communicated might i add. Whatever decisions Charles makes will be for the next Gen, William and Harry's kids and forward. Also, William will have a lot of say in that decision because once you put rules in place for how you slim the monarchy, you're not going back.


I'm not sure. Since the title of Duke of Edinborough technically went to Charles upon Philips death (as eldest son) I think they needed to wait for Charles to ascend in order for all of his previous titles to become merged back into the crown. I think I read something about this. So it wasn't available to be given to someone else until the Queen passed away. We will see.


pp here. I don't disagree with you, i think it's just a matter of technicality why Edward does not have the title yet, there is no chance he does not get that title. Charles will not slim the monarchy by stripping titles or reneging on titles earmarked during his mothers reign. I think he'll change the criteria for who gets titles in the future.


I suspect we'll know shortly after the end of the mourning period if anything is changing for Edward or the Sussex kids.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Charles promoted William to PoW the second the Queen passed. It’s petty of him to hold out on the Edinburgh title for his brother who by all accounts has served loyally.

Why didn’t the Queen give it away after Prince Philip died?


+1. It might be too soon after Philip’s death.

The title automatically passed to Charles upon Philip's death, as his eldest son, now that the title has merged with the Crown, Charles can create the title again, and pass it on.


I don’t think he’ll give it to Edward. He doesn’t like Edward and it goes against his long standing position of slimming down the extra royals. Sophie was trying so hard to get close to the Queen in hopes that she would intervene. I’m guessing that this won’t sway Charles. I think he will not fill it and leave it for William to give to his second son instead.


I think they should fight for Royal positions. Like MMA style fights. They can wear their silly costumes.
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Anonymous wrote:Charles promoted William to PoW the second the Queen passed. It’s petty of him to hold out on the Edinburgh title for his brother who by all accounts has served loyally.

Why didn’t the Queen give it away after Prince Philip died?


+1. It might be too soon after Philip’s death.

The title automatically passed to Charles upon Philip's death, as his eldest son, now that the title has merged with the Crown, Charles can create the title again, and pass it on.


I don’t think he’ll give it to Edward. He doesn’t like Edward and it goes against his long standing position of slimming down the extra royals. Sophie was trying so hard to get close to the Queen in hopes that she would intervene. I’m guessing that this won’t sway Charles. I think he will not fill it and leave it for William to give to his second son instead.


It does not work that way, the RF does not renege on promises and titles earmarked and communicated, publicly communicated might i add. Whatever decisions Charles makes will be for the next Gen, William and Harry's kids and forward. Also, William will have a lot of say in that decision because once you put rules in place for how you slim the monarchy, you're not going back.


I'm not sure. Since the title of Duke of Edinborough technically went to Charles upon Philips death (as eldest son) I think they needed to wait for Charles to ascend in order for all of his previous titles to become merged back into the crown. I think I read something about this. So it wasn't available to be given to someone else until the Queen passed away. We will see.


pp here. I don't disagree with you, i think it's just a matter of technicality why Edward does not have the title yet, there is no chance he does not get that title. Charles will not slim the monarchy by stripping titles or reneging on titles earmarked during his mothers reign. I think he'll change the criteria for who gets titles in the future.


I suspect we'll know shortly after the end of the mourning period if anything is changing for Edward or the Sussex kids.


No he’ll want and need the focus on himself not Edward or Harry. The delay will be attributed to waiting until after the coronation. As King the titles are his prerogative. Prince Philip had no power to grant it or promise it to anyone hence why it was only his wishes. There would be no reneging if Charles decided not to bestow it. The Queen could have done it but chose not to purposefully. Yes, Sophie is very, very thirsty for that title. Edward doesn’t seem to care, just wants to stay out of the press so he can stay in the closet.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Charles promoted William to PoW the second the Queen passed. It’s petty of him to hold out on the Edinburgh title for his brother who by all accounts has served loyally.

Why didn’t the Queen give it away after Prince Philip died?


+1. It might be too soon after Philip’s death.

The title automatically passed to Charles upon Philip's death, as his eldest son, now that the title has merged with the Crown, Charles can create the title again, and pass it on.


I don’t think he’ll give it to Edward. He doesn’t like Edward and it goes against his long standing position of slimming down the extra royals. Sophie was trying so hard to get close to the Queen in hopes that she would intervene. I’m guessing that this won’t sway Charles. I think he will not fill it and leave it for William to give to his second son instead.


I think they should fight for Royal positions. Like MMA style fights. They can wear their silly costumes.


My money is on Anne for all of it
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DoE has only been used three times since 1726. Charles doesn’t have to give it to anyone and may pass down to William when he is King. It will continue to pass down to next generation. I know they could create Duchess of E but does the Edinburg title to males?
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