NY mom murdered

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I frankly don’t see why the police announced to the world that she had an affair(s). It seems to me that this is private behavior and it seems so cruel to her family to have people speculating on this.

It's fact, not speculation, and the only one to blame it on is the cheater. The police have no obligation to cover up for the cheater and I can't believe you would suggest they should.

On a separate note, I do not understand why he didn't just leave the body in the basement. Wheeling it away in the bag gave the police so much more evidence.

He does not seem very intelligent and didn't plan this, killed her in a fit of rage.

I think he thought he could dump it somewhere else or hide it, but he's such a tiny little man and he doesn't own a car and he got too tired carrying the body that he didn't get too far.

I don't think this was by any means 'compassion for her kid' as some suggest. The guy was a psychopath.

They always cite the cause of the crime and motive. Jilted, jealous lover, ex-affair partner, cheating are all the most common reasons for these violent crime of passion killings. Frankly, she put her entire family in such danger. This is what pisses me off about cheaters they bring potential psychos into the mix--angry betrayed spouses, psycho lovers they just met (and didn't know were psychos), etc. It's even more tragic when the ones that knew nothing about the cheating are killed--kids or spouse so they can get insurance or 'get them out of the way' w/out paying support/alimony. Somebody willing to cheat and play those games and lies is an unstable person.

Yeah. Anyone who buys that line after he stabbed her SIXTY times that he tried to move the body out of “compassion for her kid” is a moron.

Ok, genius. What made him decide to move the body out of the house, then?

He thought it could help cover up his crime. And he was too stupid, high, or scared to make observations and logical decisions?

That makes zero sense, no matter how dumb or high you are.

It makes a lot more sense than someone murdering a woman and then immediately, in the same state of mind, caring about her kids.

Someone in previous posts in this tangent called the handyman a "psychopath." No. This is a crime of passion. Psychopaths do not commit crimes of passion. Psychopaths carry out cold, premeditated plans. And then psychopaths don't hang around and turn themselves in and confess all th

.. confess all the details. He is not like a psychopath at all. Also, no priors.

Ok. Because normal people stab someone 60 times after a breakup. Sure.

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Anonymous wrote:All of you calling this family rich because their home is allegedly “worth” $2M have a skewed sense of NY real estate. Forest hills is a solidly middle class neighborhood for NYC. She/her family were definitely comfortable but not rich.

I think it’s likely equivalent to my close-in neighborhood. My home is $1.7 million. In that Queens neighborhood it would likely be $2.2 million. We also own a rowhouse in the city.

We are wealthy, but not what someone in the Midwest or other low cost areas would think people living in houses this expensive would live like as wealthy. Modest cars, saving $, not flashy. Living a very regular life but shop at whole foods instead of the piggy wiggly.

We both work too. We don’t have huge amounts of expendable income. It’s invested and we pay for private school and expensive kid activities.

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I frankly don’t see why the police announced to the world that she had an affair(s). It seems to me that this is private behavior and it seems so cruel to her family to have people speculating on this.

It's fact, not speculation, and the only one to blame it on is the cheater. The police have no obligation to cover up for the cheater and I can't believe you would suggest they should.

On a separate note, I do not understand why he didn't just leave the body in the basement. Wheeling it away in the bag gave the police so much more evidence.

He does not seem very intelligent and didn't plan this, killed her in a fit of rage.

I think he thought he could dump it somewhere else or hide it, but he's such a tiny little man and he doesn't own a car and he got too tired carrying the body that he didn't get too far.

I don't think this was by any means 'compassion for her kid' as some suggest. The guy was a psychopath.

They always cite the cause of the crime and motive. Jilted, jealous lover, ex-affair partner, cheating are all the most common reasons for these violent crime of passion killings. Frankly, she put her entire family in such danger. This is what pisses me off about cheaters they bring potential psychos into the mix--angry betrayed spouses, psycho lovers they just met (and didn't know were psychos), etc. It's even more tragic when the ones that knew nothing about the cheating are killed--kids or spouse so they can get insurance or 'get them out of the way' w/out paying support/alimony. Somebody willing to cheat and play those games and lies is an unstable person.

Yeah. Anyone who buys that line after he stabbed her SIXTY times that he tried to move the body out of “compassion for her kid” is a moron.

Ok, genius. What made him decide to move the body out of the house, then?

He thought it could help cover up his crime. And he was too stupid, high, or scared to make observations and logical decisions?

That makes zero sense, no matter how dumb or high you are.

It makes a lot more sense than someone murdering a woman and then immediately, in the same state of mind, caring about her kids.

Someone in previous posts in this tangent called the handyman a "psychopath." No. This is a crime of passion. Psychopaths do not commit crimes of passion. Psychopaths carry out cold, premeditated plans. And then psychopaths don't hang around and turn themselves in and confess all th

.. confess all the details. He is not like a psychopath at all. Also, no priors.

Ok. Because normal people stab someone 60 times after a breakup. Sure.

Yeah. People use that term for “crazy”, doing awful thinks.

Yes “sociopath” and “psychopath” have clinical definitions, but when someone hears that a person stabbed someone 60 times, first thought “what a psycho”. Many people have found out a partner betrayed them or were broken up with, but they don’t kill them —-let alone by stabbing multiple times. The “snapping part” is what is psycho.

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Anonymous wrote:Simply my take (from very afar), based on news/FB:

* Ms. Gaal truly loved her kids (relationship w/ her husband unclear)
* She was naturally beautiful (no matter her hair color/"work done")
* Like most of us, she was probably struggling w/ some form of mental illness
* She also really loved nature (most of her FB pics are of nature, a fact not mentioned in the nearly 30 pages of this post)
* She was very cultured, having traveled to many parts of the world and seems to have genuinely loved the people, foods, and the arts
* Like all of us, Ms. Gaal was a human being who make mistakes
* She and her family deserve respect

I live in a glass house, so no stones being thrown by me.

She may have loved her kids, but she took risks and left the younger one at home past midnight out drinking to meet men she met online. She also just chose not to come home one night without telling anyone. She was reported to be a regular at the bar alone. The things she was doing put her family in danger. If her son came downstairs that night, he likely would have been killed too. Think about that.

That is not being a good mother. Most chronic cheaters like this, as demonstrated, will give the lover preference over the kids.

He definitely would have killed the son too if he had walked in when he offed the mother. He knows the kid would have run to call 911 and been a witness. Thank his he slept through that.

You don't know that. Stop trying so hard to sensationalize this case even more than it already is.

New poster. I hope you're kidding. The woman goes to a local bar alone all the time, sleeps with her handyman for two years, might have slept with a slew of other people given the NYPD search for "boyfriends," and doesn't care about her children and was absent at least that night. And this is just the beginning of this story.

How many mothers here would leave a 13-year-old alone in the house while they went to a play with friends, stopped off to drink by themselves in a bar, and then let an affair partner in the house?

I'm pretty sure if my husband was traveling with my older son, I would be sure to be home one night with my 13-year-old instead of going out for the night with friends, drinking alone in a bar while my kid was home, and well, the rest of it all.

It’s so nice to hear sanity. If you spend time on the Relationship forum there are so many doing mental gymnastics and gaslighting to make themselves believe their choices and lifestyle make them happy so they aren’t morally wrong or affecting their kids/spouse. You start to think everyone is crazy.

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Sidebar, folks stop fooling yourselves. If you can afford a $1 Million or $2 Million dollar home in the USA you are rich. Not Oprah or Bill Gates RICH but rich. The fact that $2 Million in NY buys that house instead of a mansion in Georgia or Texas doesn’t make a difference. And expensive private schools and expensive extracurriculars are luxury items for most of America. $374,900 was the median US home value.

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I find it kind of surprising that her 13 year old didn’t look for her and was still in his bedroom when police came the next day. If I disappeared, I’m pretty sure my 13 year old would be looking all over the house for me and would have stumbled upon the significant amount of blood that was probably in that basement. So sad. Maybe he was used to his mom not being there so this was no big deal. Either way, what a sad case all around. I hope the dad knew about the affair so this wasn’t such a shock in addition to finding out his wife had been murdered.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it kind of surprising that her 13 year old didn’t look for her and was still in his bedroom when police came the next day. If I disappeared, I’m pretty sure my 13 year old would be looking all over the house for me and would have stumbled upon the significant amount of blood that was probably in that basement. So sad. Maybe he was used to his mom not being there so this was no big deal. Either way, what a sad case all around. I hope the dad knew about the affair so this wasn’t such a shock in addition to finding out his wife had been murdered.

I agree. I see it as a dysfunctional family. It is so sad.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it kind of surprising that her 13 year old didn’t look for her and was still in his bedroom when police came the next day. If I disappeared, I’m pretty sure my 13 year old would be looking all over the house for me and would have stumbled upon the significant amount of blood that was probably in that basement. So sad. Maybe he was used to his mom not being there so this was no big deal. Either way, what a sad case all around. I hope the dad knew about the affair so this wasn’t such a shock in addition to finding out his wife had been murdered.

13 year olds stay up late playing video games and then they sleep until noon.

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Husband and 12th grader son were in Ann Arbor, Mich. visiting UMich at time of murder. Husband is a UMich alum. Pretty odd for the victim / wife / mom to not go with them on kid’s official college visit. Which suggests marital issues, right?

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/04/21/wife-found-duffel-bag-husband-son-college-tour-ann-arbor/7358919001/

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Anonymous wrote:Husband and 12th grader son were in Ann Arbor, Mich. visiting UMich at time of murder. Husband is a UMich alum. Pretty odd for the victim / wife / mom to not go with them on kid’s official college visit. Which suggests marital issues, right?

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/04/21/wife-found-duffel-bag-husband-son-college-tour-ann-arbor/7358919001/

Not odd to me. Younger kid had school, so mom stayed home with him while dad & 17 yr old visited schools.

And come on, most marriages have some issues!

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This article says Bonola was a creeper who harassed the young women working at the local Starbucks to the point they had called the cops!

https://nypost.com/2022/04/22/orsolya-gaal-let-david-bonola-into-her-home-before-repeatedly-asking-him-leave/

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Anonymous wrote:Husband and 12th grader son were in Ann Arbor, Mich. visiting UMich at time of murder. Husband is a UMich alum. Pretty odd for the victim / wife / mom to not go with them on kid’s official college visit. Which suggests marital issues, right?

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/04/21/wife-found-duffel-bag-husband-son-college-tour-ann-arbor/7358919001/

No. That’s not weird. My husband and my daughter (a junior) are going to be taking 3 college trips (flying) this summer. I am not going because I have to stay home with our younger child who will also have a lot going on. I also work full time and would rather use that time for family vacation. DH owns his own business and has a much more flexible schedule than I do. We are happily married.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it kind of surprising that her 13 year old didn’t look for her and was still in his bedroom when police came the next day. If I disappeared, I’m pretty sure my 13 year old would be looking all over the house for me and would have stumbled upon the significant amount of blood that was probably in that basement. So sad. Maybe he was used to his mom not being there so this was no big deal. Either way, what a sad case all around. I hope the dad knew about the affair so this wasn’t such a shock in addition to finding out his wife had been murdered.

13 year olds stay up late playing video games and then they sleep until noon.

This. And they're perfectly accustomed to moms being out and about during the day, might call for her in the house but unlikely to investigate more deeply beyond that.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it kind of surprising that her 13 year old didn’t look for her and was still in his bedroom when police came the next day. If I disappeared, I’m pretty sure my 13 year old would be looking all over the house for me and would have stumbled upon the significant amount of blood that was probably in that basement. So sad. Maybe he was used to his mom not being there so this was no big deal. Either way, what a sad case all around. I hope the dad knew about the affair so this wasn’t such a shock in addition to finding out his wife had been murdered.

I agree. I see it as a dysfunctional family. It is so sad.

Definitely not the perfect family she displayed and cultivated on social media and to neighbors.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it kind of surprising that her 13 year old didn’t look for her and was still in his bedroom when police came the next day. If I disappeared, I’m pretty sure my 13 year old would be looking all over the house for me and would have stumbled upon the significant amount of blood that was probably in that basement. So sad. Maybe he was used to his mom not being there so this was no big deal. Either way, what a sad case all around. I hope the dad knew about the affair so this wasn’t such a shock in addition to finding out his wife had been murdered.

13 year olds stay up late playing video games and then they sleep until noon.

This. And they're perfectly accustomed to moms being out and about during the day, might call for her in the house but unlikely to investigate more deeply beyond that.

Well--yeah. She had stayed out all night before. I'm sure it happened not just when the husband called the police about it. She was a bar regular in the late night/morning hours according to local bartender.