TJ admissions decision - repercussions for Class of 2026

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In addition, 20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.
20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

Let's not forget all the sport teams need to have 20% asian representation. It doesn't matter if there are better qualified athletes. Asian students deserve 20% of the spots in the name of equity

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In addition, 20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.
20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

Ok. I’d love to see more Asian representation in education and government.

Also look into 8a certification for federal contracts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In addition, 20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.
20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

FCPS would love to get more people applying to be teachers. The same goes for FCPD and FCFD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In addition, 20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.
20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

Let's not forget all the sport teams need to have 20% asian representation. It doesn't matter if there are better qualified athletes. Asian students deserve 20% of the spots in the name of equity

Why? The goal of an athletic team is to win games. There is no goal that TJ has that is expressly competitive in nature. The fact that it has been adjudged one of the top high schools in the country doesn't make that its goal.

Its goal is to educate talented students with an eye towards preparing them for a STEM or STEM-adjacent career. I would almost argue that the STEM community writ large would be better served by TJ taking really bright kids who are not sure what they want to do when they grow up and inspiring them to pursue STEM, rather than just taking kids whose parents have already decided that they will be doctors or engineers and giving them cool toys to play with for four years... especially when those kids are probably going to get to play with those cool toys in the form of summer internships anyway.

[Anonymous]

The goal of an athletic team is not to win games. School funded sports are to develop good habits of physical fitness, develop school spirit and a sense of teamwork. You think Asian students don't deserve this? The teams are funded from the same money that is going to the TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In addition, 20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.
20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

Let's not forget all the sport teams need to have 20% asian representation. It doesn't matter if there are better qualified athletes. Asian students deserve 20% of the spots in the name of equity

Why? The goal of an athletic team is to win games. There is no goal that TJ has that is expressly competitive in nature. The fact that it has been adjudged one of the top high schools in the country doesn't make that its goal.

Its goal is to educate talented students with an eye towards preparing them for a STEM or STEM-adjacent career. I would almost argue that the STEM community writ large would be better served by TJ taking really bright kids who are not sure what they want to do when they grow up and inspiring them to pursue STEM, rather than just taking kids whose parents have already decided that they will be doctors or engineers and giving them cool toys to play with for four years... especially when those kids are probably going to get to play with those cool toys in the form of summer internships anyway.

Is the implication that the teams would not win games if they allowed Asians on the teams? Can you read back what you wrote and think about the implications of that? If you substitute sports teams for magnets in some of the sentences people are writing why aren't the same things true?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In addition, 20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.
20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

Let's not forget all the sport teams need to have 20% asian representation. It doesn't matter if there are better qualified athletes. Asian students deserve 20% of the spots in the name of equity

Why? The goal of an athletic team is to win games. There is no goal that TJ has that is expressly competitive in nature. The fact that it has been adjudged one of the top high schools in the country doesn't make that its goal.

Its goal is to educate talented students with an eye towards preparing them for a STEM or STEM-adjacent career. I would almost argue that the STEM community writ large would be better served by TJ taking really bright kids who are not sure what they want to do when they grow up and inspiring them to pursue STEM, rather than just taking kids whose parents have already decided that they will be doctors or engineers and giving them cool toys to play with for four years... especially when those kids are probably going to get to play with those cool toys in the form of summer internships anyway.

Oh boy, so many assumptions here! First, as a PP mentioned, team sports' main goals is to develop sportsmanship, encourage fitness,... Just as you said that TJ's original goal was not to become a top high school, sport teams were not originally created with the goal of winning games. Also, assuming that asian kids aren't as strong as others in some sports, would it not be good to allow them to participate? This will certainly benefit stronger athletes ie teach them empathy, the benefits of diversity and all that good stuff that many are saying TJ would benefit from if its students were more diverse. Lastly, why would you think that admitting asians in sport teams will cause the teams to become weaker? Maybe it's about time you look into your own prejudice and give some of these asian kids a chance to prove themselves just as you are advocating for the other minority groups to be given a chance to prove themselves academcally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In addition, 20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.
20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

Let's not forget all the sport teams need to have 20% asian representation. It doesn't matter if there are better qualified athletes. Asian students deserve 20% of the spots in the name of equity

Why? The goal of an athletic team is to win games. There is no goal that TJ has that is expressly competitive in nature. The fact that it has been adjudged one of the top high schools in the country doesn't make that its goal.

Its goal is to educate talented students with an eye towards preparing them for a STEM or STEM-adjacent career. I would almost argue that the STEM community writ large would be better served by TJ taking really bright kids who are not sure what they want to do when they grow up and inspiring them to pursue STEM, rather than just taking kids whose parents have already decided that they will be doctors or engineers and giving them cool toys to play with for four years... especially when those kids are probably going to get to play with those cool toys in the form of summer internships anyway.

Nah. The goal of public high school sport teams is to "to train students with an eye towards preparing them for a diverse society and dealing with people of other race, ethnicity and cultures, train them to work as a team, build school spirit and possibly winning as the last goal since winning as the main goal produces toxic environment and of course help them in college admissions game."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In addition, 20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.
20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

FCPS would love to get more people applying to be teachers. The same goes for FCPD and FCFD.

You have to adjust your lower expectation with POC - Asians must be :

- 20% of the school board; Asian representation: 0
- 20% of the top 100 administrative positions at FCPS; Asian representation: probably less than 3%
- 20% of the county teachers; Asian representation: probably less than 5%
- 20% of the county employees including the top 100 administrative positions; Asian representation: probably less than 3%
- 20% of the County Board of Supervisors; Asian representation: 0
- 20% of the County Judges; Asian representation: 0
- 20% of County prosecutors; Asian representation: probably less than 3%
- 20% of the County police officers; Asian representation: probably less than 3%
- 70% of TJ teachers; Asian representation: probably less than 5%
- Principal of TJ must be Asian;
- 20% of County Contracts and Grants; Asian representation: probably less than 3%
- 20% of county public schools' sport teams; Asian representation: probably less than 3%
- 20% of county schools' clubs and organization (including SGAs) members and officers: Asian representation: probably less than 5%

[Anonymous]

Has anyone done an audit of Asian representation at sports teams and have they surveyed different populations about discrimination and bias in sports?

[Anonymous]

Why are Indian and Chinese lumped together? We also need equal representation of each country in Asia. It’s pretty racist to say all the kids whose grandparents are from one hemisphere are the same and should be lumped together.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In addition, 20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.
20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

FCPS would love to get more people applying to be teachers. The same goes for FCPD and FCFD.

Well, it’s possible that asians aren’t motivated to apply because they think their chances of getting these positions are too small and don’t want to invest time into it. May be board/county/state should introduce point systems and give booster points for all the under represented races (use ‘some’ proxy classification that implies race) and relax criteria a bit in all the government positions so more Asians and other minorities will apply in future! What do you think?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are Indian and Chinese lumped together? We also need equal representation of each country in Asia. It’s pretty racist to say all the kids whose grandparents are from one hemisphere are the same and should be lumped together.

That’s very true. There are many countries/races from different parts of the world and everyone should get booster points based on their current representation in schools, all government jobs/positions etc. it’s well known fact that people from different ethnic groups tend to segregate themselves in different neighborhoods, it’s easier to introduce booster points based on where they live. You could also use type of jobs the applicants parents do and family income levels etc as alternative proxy classifications for race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In addition, 20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.
20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

FCPS would love to get more people applying to be teachers. The same goes for FCPD and FCFD.

Well, it’s possible that asians aren’t motivated to apply because they think their chances of getting these positions are too small and don’t want to invest time into it. May be board/county/state should introduce point systems and give booster points for all the under represented races (use ‘some’ proxy classification that implies race) and relax criteria a bit in all the government positions so more Asians and other minorities will apply in future! What do you think?

Sure. Go round up some applicants. We need more qualified teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In addition, 20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.
20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

FCPS would love to get more people applying to be teachers. The same goes for FCPD and FCFD.

Well, it’s possible that asians aren’t motivated to apply because they think their chances of getting these positions are too small and don’t want to invest time into it. May be board/county/state should introduce point systems and give booster points for all the under represented races (use ‘some’ proxy classification that implies race) and relax criteria a bit in all the government positions so more Asians and other minorities will apply in future! What do you think?

It's possible. It's possible that there are other reasons that asians aren't motivated to apply. They might be the same reasons that others aren't motivated to apply as well.