Meghan and Prince Harry are moving to the U.S./Canada - OFFICIAL

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The people who hate MM can’t even get their narrative straight. Either she miscalculated and is now a complete nobody because she’s stupid or she Machiavellied her way into even more wealth and more fame.

I think it is both. She got her freedom, almost everything she wanted and won short term. While there is still interest she can hobnob with celebrities , be loud and "woke", go to.the Oscar's and have celebrities fall over themselves for her and live the high life on yachts with billionaires with no reprecussions.

But the public is fascination with them was their royalty and they are not that any more.

The long term implications are that there will be far less intrigue and interest surrounding them in the next 5 to 10 years. They were called the"young royals" but truth is are already late 30's and their time as "influencers" with the younger generation has a seriously short shelf life. Once they hit mid to late forties the shine will be off.

Long break before George and his sibs are old enough to take over that role. Unclear if anyone will even care about the monarchy in a decade.

Other than your wish, I don't know why you think that the BRF might fade into irrelevance.

I have no wish for them to disappear. It’s a quaint cultural hangover. Most nations have something totally frivolous they do for fun. But tastes change rapidly these days. With older Britons dying off and the younger generations being less emotionally tied to the BRF, who knows? You yourself said the 30-something members of the family were of fading influence. George is what 7? 8? It’ll be a while before he can take on that role.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The people who hate MM can’t even get their narrative straight. Either she miscalculated and is now a complete nobody because she’s stupid or she Machiavellied her way into even more wealth and more fame.

There are a bunch of people you're responding to - we don't think with one mind... I don't think she miscalculated - I think she played this really well. Don't you?

Nah, I actually think this is Harry’s plan. He’s long wanted out. His brother has three kids now and doesn’t need a spare. Hopefully, Charlotte and Louis will have an easier time forging their own lives after George has an heir.

I hope the royal family work out a better way to plan for the future of "spares". It seems that Princess Margaret and Prince Andrew struggled - hopefully after this phase, things work out better for Harry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people who hate MM can’t even get their narrative straight. Either she miscalculated and is now a complete nobody because she’s stupid or she Machiavellied her way into even more wealth and more fame.

I think it is both. She got her freedom, almost everything she wanted and won short term. While there is still interest she can hobnob with celebrities , be loud and "woke", go to.the Oscar's and have celebrities fall over themselves for her and live the high life on yachts with billionaires with no reprecussions.

But the public is fascination with them was their royalty and they are not that any more.

The long term implications are that there will be far less intrigue and interest surrounding them in the next 5 to 10 years. They were called the"young royals" but truth is are already late 30's and their time as "influencers" with the younger generation has a seriously short shelf life. Once they hit mid to late forties the shine will be off.

Long break before George and his sibs are old enough to take over that role. Unclear if anyone will even care about the monarchy in a decade.

Other than your wish, I don't know why you think that the BRF might fade into irrelevance.

I have no wish for them to disappear. It’s a quaint cultural hangover. Most nations have something totally frivolous they do for fun. But tastes change rapidly these days. With older Britons dying off and the younger generations being less emotionally tied to the BRF, who knows? You yourself said the 30-something members of the family were of fading influence. George is what 7? 8? It’ll be a while before he can take on that role.

In 10 years he'll certainly be the source of fascination. Meghan will be 48. No teen or young 20something is going to care about an aging millenial. Just like they don't today. Meghan has maybe five years of relevancy left by the standards of celebrityhood.

As all Hollywood actresses will tell you celebrityhood is not kind to aging people. Men have it better.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My take on all of this is that the truth about Andrew must be much, much worse than is public yet.

Interesting.

Maybe it is time to do away with royalty altogether. It's bad enough when regular rich assholes turn out to be pedophiles.

Agree. Harry and Meghan's friend Bradby announcing the tell all interview if H and M didn't get their way was straight up blackmail.. The Queen did what she could to save face but Harry and Meghan won.

The Queen is scared of them and that entire statement was nothing but PR spin. Her compliments towards Meghan were carefully wordeddamage control.

When Meghan finally divorces Harry (and she will) that tell all is going to be UGLY and she will get PAID. It's her ace.

Sleeping with 17-year olds may be morally disgusting but it doesn't qualify as pedophilia in my eyes.

If the Queen is scared of them, she's dumber than I thought, or maybe she doesn't have the instincts that every Arab mother learns when the pregnancy test comes up positive. One well timed heart attack and a well-publicized hospital visit would have been enough to turn H&M into black sheep in Britain forever. Maybe add a "palace source" commenting about an overheard shouting match and the Queen leaving the room shaky and ashen-faced. I swear sometimes white people have to be taught simple things.

Lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people who hate MM can’t even get their narrative straight. Either she miscalculated and is now a complete nobody because she’s stupid or she Machiavellied her way into even more wealth and more fame.

I think it is both. She got her freedom, almost everything she wanted and won short term. While there is still interest she can hobnob with celebrities , be loud and "woke", go to.the Oscar's and have celebrities fall over themselves for her and live the high life on yachts with billionaires with no reprecussions.

But the public is fascination with them was their royalty and they are not that any more.

The long term implications are that there will be far less intrigue and interest surrounding them in the next 5 to 10 years. They were called the"young royals" but truth is are already late 30's and their time as "influencers" with the younger generation has a seriously short shelf life. Once they hit mid to late forties the shine will be off.

Long break before George and his sibs are old enough to take over that role. Unclear if anyone will even care about the monarchy in a decade.

Other than your wish, I don't know why you think that the BRF might fade into irrelevance.

I have no wish for them to disappear. It’s a quaint cultural hangover. Most nations have something totally frivolous they do for fun. But tastes change rapidly these days. With older Britons dying off and the younger generations being less emotionally tied to the BRF, who knows? You yourself said the 30-something members of the family were of fading influence. George is what 7? 8? It’ll be a while before he can take on that role.

In 10 years he'll certainly be the source of fascination. Meghan will be 48. No teen or young 20something is going to care about an aging millenial. Just like they don't today. Meghan has maybe five years of relevancy left by the standards of celebrityhood.

As all Hollywood actresses will tell you celebrityhood is not kind to aging people. Men have it better.

A source of fascination and a person who can feed the public curiosity in the media are two different things.

William and Harry were officially off-limits until they left the equivalents of college at age 21/22.

No interviews, no paparazzi photos, staying way from all of their schools.

That's another 15 years for George. Plus he's basically going to 'disappear' in a year or so when he goes off to boarding school in the countryside with the rest of the nobles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people who hate MM can’t even get their narrative straight. Either she miscalculated and is now a complete nobody because she’s stupid or she Machiavellied her way into even more wealth and more fame.

There are a bunch of people you're responding to - we don't think with one mind... I don't think she miscalculated - I think she played this really well. Don't you?

Nah, I actually think this is Harry’s plan. He’s long wanted out. His brother has three kids now and doesn’t need a spare. Hopefully, Charlotte and Louis will have an easier time forging their own lives after George has an heir.

I hope the royal family work out a better way to plan for the future of "spares". It seems that Princess Margaret and Prince Andrew struggled - hopefully after this phase, things work out better for Harry.

Anne does a great job. Being royal is effectively her job and she always made clear her kids would have non royal lives. It's worked out well for her. And so far it seems to he working for the Wessexes.

Harry would have always known his life would require a different direction than Will. He could have used Anne as a role model. But it didn't work out that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My take on all of this is that the truth about Andrew must be much, much worse than is public yet.

Interesting.

Maybe it is time to do away with royalty altogether. It's bad enough when regular rich assholes turn out to be pedophiles.

Agree. Harry and Meghan's friend Bradby announcing the tell all interview if H and M didn't get their way was straight up blackmail.. The Queen did what she could to save face but Harry and Meghan won.

The Queen is scared of them and that entire statement was nothing but PR spin. Her compliments towards Meghan were carefully wordeddamage control.

When Meghan finally divorces Harry (and she will) that tell all is going to be UGLY and she will get PAID. It's her ace.

Sleeping with 17-year olds may be morally disgusting but it doesn't qualify as pedophilia in my eyes.

If the Queen is scared of them, she's dumber than I thought, or maybe she doesn't have the instincts that every Arab mother learns when the pregnancy test comes up positive. One well timed heart attack and a well-publicized hospital visit would have been enough to turn H&M into black sheep in Britain forever. Maybe add a "palace source" commenting about an overheard shouting match and the Queen leaving the room shaky and ashen-faced. I swear sometimes white people have to be taught simple things.

Lol

You never hear about 'shouting matches' with the Queen. Ever.

She's not really treated as a 'person' but an institution.

Plus they already tried the tears and anger routine by saying Meghan made post-partum Kate cry at the wedding 1.5 years ago.

People who care can't do anything about it and for Meghan supporters - well, Kate was clearly still in the weeds with her newborn.

So here we are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people who hate MM can’t even get their narrative straight. Either she miscalculated and is now a complete nobody because she’s stupid or she Machiavellied her way into even more wealth and more fame.

I think it is both. She got her freedom, almost everything she wanted and won short term. While there is still interest she can hobnob with celebrities , be loud and "woke", go to.the Oscar's and have celebrities fall over themselves for her and live the high life on yachts with billionaires with no reprecussions.

But the public is fascination with them was their royalty and they are not that any more.

The long term implications are that there will be far less intrigue and interest surrounding them in the next 5 to 10 years. They were called the"young royals" but truth is are already late 30's and their time as "influencers" with the younger generation has a seriously short shelf life. Once they hit mid to late forties the shine will be off.

Long break before George and his sibs are old enough to take over that role. Unclear if anyone will even care about the monarchy in a decade.

Other than your wish, I don't know why you think that the BRF might fade into irrelevance.

I have no wish for them to disappear. It’s a quaint cultural hangover. Most nations have something totally frivolous they do for fun. But tastes change rapidly these days. With older Britons dying off and the younger generations being less emotionally tied to the BRF, who knows? You yourself said the 30-something members of the family were of fading influence. George is what 7? 8? It’ll be a while before he can take on that role.

In 10 years he'll certainly be the source of fascination. Meghan will be 48. No teen or young 20something is going to care about an aging millenial. Just like they don't today. Meghan has maybe five years of relevancy left by the standards of celebrityhood.

As all Hollywood actresses will tell you celebrityhood is not kind to aging people. Men have it better.

A source of fascination and a person who can feed the public curiosity in the media are two different things.

William and Harry were officially off-limits until they left the equivalents of college at age 21/22.

No interviews, no paparazzi photos, staying way from all of their schools.

That's another 15 years for George. Plus he's basically going to 'disappear' in a year or so when he goes off to boarding school in the countryside with the rest of the nobles.

I'm the same age as Will. So I know he and Harry didn't "disappear." They were always in the presses. Heck, apparently Kate had a pin up of Will in her bedroom as a teenager!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people who hate MM can’t even get their narrative straight. Either she miscalculated and is now a complete nobody because she’s stupid or she Machiavellied her way into even more wealth and more fame.

There are a bunch of people you're responding to - we don't think with one mind... I don't think she miscalculated - I think she played this really well. Don't you?

Nah, I actually think this is Harry’s plan. He’s long wanted out. His brother has three kids now and doesn’t need a spare. Hopefully, Charlotte and Louis will have an easier time forging their own lives after George has an heir.

I hope the royal family work out a better way to plan for the future of "spares". It seems that Princess Margaret and Prince Andrew struggled - hopefully after this phase, things work out better for Harry.

Anne does a great job. Being royal is effectively her job and she always made clear her kids would have non royal lives. It's worked out well for her. And so far it seems to he working for the Wessexes.

Harry would have always known his life would require a different direction than Will. He could have used Anne as a role model. But it didn't work out that way.

Anne was a HUGE source of British media gossip from the 1970s - 1980s.

Sometime after the start of the 90s she a) banned all press from attending her media events, and b) the focus shifted over to Diana/Fergie.

Its not that Anne's some angel, she's weathered her share of scandals (from refusing to tell even the Queen she was engaged to her first husband having a bastard DURING THEIR MARRIAGE), she's just aged out of what's considered trendy and banned the reporters regardless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people who hate MM can’t even get their narrative straight. Either she miscalculated and is now a complete nobody because she’s stupid or she Machiavellied her way into even more wealth and more fame.

I think it is both. She got her freedom, almost everything she wanted and won short term. While there is still interest she can hobnob with celebrities , be loud and "woke", go to.the Oscar's and have celebrities fall over themselves for her and live the high life on yachts with billionaires with no reprecussions.

But the public is fascination with them was their royalty and they are not that any more.

The long term implications are that there will be far less intrigue and interest surrounding them in the next 5 to 10 years. They were called the"young royals" but truth is are already late 30's and their time as "influencers" with the younger generation has a seriously short shelf life. Once they hit mid to late forties the shine will be off.

Long break before George and his sibs are old enough to take over that role. Unclear if anyone will even care about the monarchy in a decade.

Other than your wish, I don't know why you think that the BRF might fade into irrelevance.

I have no wish for them to disappear. It’s a quaint cultural hangover. Most nations have something totally frivolous they do for fun. But tastes change rapidly these days. With older Britons dying off and the younger generations being less emotionally tied to the BRF, who knows? You yourself said the 30-something members of the family were of fading influence. George is what 7? 8? It’ll be a while before he can take on that role.

In 10 years he'll certainly be the source of fascination. Meghan will be 48. No teen or young 20something is going to care about an aging millenial. Just like they don't today. Meghan has maybe five years of relevancy left by the standards of celebrityhood.

As all Hollywood actresses will tell you celebrityhood is not kind to aging people. Men have it better.

A source of fascination and a person who can feed the public curiosity in the media are two different things.

William and Harry were officially off-limits until they left the equivalents of college at age 21/22.

No interviews, no paparazzi photos, staying way from all of their schools.

That's another 15 years for George. Plus he's basically going to 'disappear' in a year or so when he goes off to boarding school in the countryside with the rest of the nobles.

I'm the same age as Will. So I know he and Harry didn't "disappear." They were always in the presses. Heck, apparently Kate had a pin up of Will in her bedroom as a teenager!

They were trotted out for regularly scheduled press photos - just like George is now. Did you know where Will went to get pizza? Who his first kiss was?

The palace released TIDBITS - like William going to a Spice Girls concert - but nothing substantive. For instance, he wasn't pictured with the girls there but if he was the age he is now, there would have been a full-court press just like when he and Kate went to meet Beyonce/JayZ at the basketball game.

They did however allow Beatrice/Eugenie/Harry to be officially papped with the Spice Girls at a formal engagement with Charles.

[Anonymous]

Their statement is impersonal and terse. They got everything they wanted but still leaving bitterly. Whomever is doing their PR needs to just fire themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Their statement is impersonal and terse. They got everything they wanted but still leaving bitterly. Whomever is doing their PR needs to just fire themselves.

The Sussex' didn't release a statement...?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Their statement is impersonal and terse. They got everything they wanted but still leaving bitterly. Whomever is doing their PR needs to just fire themselves.

The Sussex' didn't release a statement...?

They did. It came out same time as Queen’s statement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Their statement is impersonal and terse. They got everything they wanted but still leaving bitterly. Whomever is doing their PR needs to just fire themselves.

The Sussex' didn't release a statement...?

They did. It came out same time as Queen’s statement.

There is no statement from them anywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people who hate MM can’t even get their narrative straight. Either she miscalculated and is now a complete nobody because she’s stupid or she Machiavellied her way into even more wealth and more fame.

There are a bunch of people you're responding to - we don't think with one mind... I don't think she miscalculated - I think she played this really well. Don't you?

Nah, I actually think this is Harry’s plan. He’s long wanted out. His brother has three kids now and doesn’t need a spare. Hopefully, Charlotte and Louis will have an easier time forging their own lives after George has an heir.

I hope the royal family work out a better way to plan for the future of "spares". It seems that Princess Margaret and Prince Andrew struggled - hopefully after this phase, things work out better for Harry.

Anne does a great job. Being royal is effectively her job and she always made clear her kids would have non royal lives. It's worked out well for her. And so far it seems to he working for the Wessexes.

Harry would have always known his life would require a different direction than Will. He could have used Anne as a role model. But it didn't work out that way.

She dosed a great work but was it her choice or is it forced on her. She has always lived under her sisters shadow doing what ever her sister doesn't want to do. Doesn't sound like a great life to me.