
Did Langley parents oppose Herndon parents who took political action against unwanted changes to their school? DID Herndon parents take any action? Or just complain on a message board? Reading this thread and others it seems that no unified action was taken. Some people did make the decision for their own children to move or go private. |
Okay. Right now, Carson is a split feeder to: Oakton, Westfield, Chantilly and SLHS. And sends between 75 and 100 kids a year to TJ. It is the worst split feeder in the county. Or close. How about we not add a sixth high school to the mix? |
Parent of former Carson kids here. Most of the state winning teams are started by parents and run by parents and funded by parents. My kids debated. Over 100 kids trying out for 20 spots. Parents started debate. Parents ran debate. It ran in the evening in parents homes. Parents volunteered to coach and judge and monitor. Parents paid. Carson isn’t getting any after school funding that other schools aren’t. They are getting thousands of hours of parent volunteers and parents paying for the school based activities. |
I lived across from Blake Lane Park and moved away a few years ago. I haven’t followed this too closely. But, it’s a relatively diverse area SES wise— for Oakton. Lots of apartments and townhouses. $600,000 townhouses. But still, what passes for affordable housing in Vienna/ Oakton. If I were to guess at the underlying motivation, it would be traffic and not demographics. 123 is a disaster during rush hour, and those back roads are really a mess with people coming from both Fairfax and Vienna for the metro. Getting out of those neighborhoods is a mess in the mornings— before adding school buses and kiss and ride. And there is already not enough parking. If I still lived there, that would be my concern. But, I haven’t seen the proposed boundaries for the new ES. I am surprised one would be needed, because the kids now got to Oakton ES, and it had a huge renovation and expansion that finished not all that long ago. Plus, it’s a densely built area, and the green space is really nice. |
Well, it's apparently unfair that you all can spare time and money to give your kids extra. I suppose all extra curricular should be banned. |
Fair enough. People who complain publicly will be branded as racist. They should either put up and shut up or move. |
DP with experience from another F/R lunch challenged high school in FCPS. The problem with the extracurriculars is that the poorer schools have trouble getting volunteers AND money. We hear regularly that all of the high schools have trouble getting parent volunteers or that even at the big schools or wealthier schools the same parents do most of the volunteering. The difference at those schools is that the parents can come up with money to substitue for volunteering. That does not happen at the poorer schools. I would not claim, however, that the wealthier schools should not have the extracurricular activities. Though it is a reason to not concentrate poverty. |
It seems that if the FARMs kids are equally distributed they would have trouble getting home from activities. Almost 30% are FARMS. Evening out could mean that activities across the county take a major hit if there aren't quite enough parents in schools with money and time to give. There is a limit to how much some people can subsidize others without taking from their own children. |
^^ Exactly - and at schools where half or more are in poverty, it is up to the minority to pay into the PTA that keeps field trips and other things going. If you don't pay, your kids will lose. |
Herndon parents might be surprised at who would step up to help. But you would have to lead the effort. |
Sooo.... according to schooldigger from 2010 to 2017 test scores fell, FARMs has gone up dramatically as has the percentage of Hispanic students. The percentage of white students has gone down but overall enrollment is about the same. White enrollment has been going down since the late 1990s, with the first real drop in 1998 and dropping steadily since. White enrollment was 1149 in 2010 and 775 students in 2017. Looks like most white Herndon parents opted out for whatever reason. Of course it is unknown how many moved and how many went private. Interestingly enough, the numbers for black and Asian children have held steady for 20 years. Hispanic students increased their numbers and white students left in greater numbers every year. Many white people left. I don't know if it was due to issues with administration or teaching or the condition of the facilities, but they left. Maybe there was redistricting somewhere in there but the numbers dropped EVERY year. Most people chose the path of simply leaving. Left on its current trajectory, Herndon would be 80% Hispanic in 5-7 years, as the pace of white departure seems to be increasing. |
Yeah our charity has increased over the years with our income but so has what we can provide for our children. Once covering other people's children hurts our ability to fund education, savings and productive hobbies for our own something has to give and it won't be the needs of the children that we brought into the world. |
Blame all the middle class white people that abandoned Herndon. They exercised their free will to move or enroll their children in private school. They apparently didn't care what the rest of you thought about it. They are the ones that contributed to the higher FARMs percentages by removing their middle-class children. Look to your own neighbors instead of blaming Langley parents for being content with theirs. |
The bolded is the sentiment behind all of this. |
I don't think it's as much that as the huge influx of undocumented, poor immigrants. 818 unaccompanied minors in Fairfax County from October to May of this year. This is not sustainable for any school system. |