RM Cluster Overcrowding?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just sent an email to the Mayor and Mark Pierzchala to NOT set the threshold to 150%.

Mark Pierzchala needs to go. Mayor and Council elections in Rockville are November 2019.

Evidently he and the mayor hate each other and do t talk except to get city business done.

I’m definitely voting for Mark in the next election. I think it’s funny all these people that can’t vote in Rockville election[b]s are hating on him.

?? I would think that most parents with kids attending RM, and worried about overcrowding at RM would be able to vote in the Rockville election. Why would they not? Unless they don't actually live in bounds, which I know happens quite a bit in MCPS unfortunately.

DP.There are people zoned for Richard Montgomery HS who don't live in the City of Rockville, and there are also people who do live in the City of Rockville and aren't zoned for Richard Montgomery HS.

I do not believe that is true. Richard Montgomery draws from the City of Rockville. If you are zoned for RM, you must be living in the City of Rockville. What part of MoCo feeds into RM, but isn't considered City of Rockville?

[Anonymous]

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Really? It's not just two small areas, when you look at the rest of the RM area. Over the past 5 years, with all the overdevelopment in the are, there have been hundreds of new housing units put up in the RM cluster.

There are still vacancies at some of the apartment complexes near the Twinbrook Metro - at El Terano, at Escher, at Galvan. Plus, the new development of townhouses at Champman Row. If those all do fill up, it could potentially lead to hundreds of new students attending RM.

Why do you consider it overdevelopment?

It is overdevelopment when so many schools have portables. It is overdevelopment when class sizes are so large. It's overdevelopment when there are insufficient facilities to handle the amount of people in the area. RM is over capacity. My kid's ES has 800 kids and one instrumental music teacher because there are not funds for an additional one.

Developers enjoy pushing the idea that 'growth' is ALWAYS a good thing. Without always planning for traffic issues, or school overcrowding, or park space. MCPS has been overdeveloping for the past decade, uncontrolled, and it's led to quite a decline in the school system, and a decline in the general quality of life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just sent an email to the Mayor and Mark Pierzchala to NOT set the threshold to 150%.

Mark Pierzchala needs to go. Mayor and Council elections in Rockville are November 2019.

Evidently he and the mayor hate each other and do t talk except to get city business done.

I’m definitely voting for Mark in the next election. I think it’s funny all these people that can’t vote in Rockville election[b]s are hating on him.

?? I would think that most parents with kids attending RM, and worried about overcrowding at RM would be able to vote in the Rockville election. Why would they not? Unless they don't actually live in bounds, which I know happens quite a bit in MCPS unfortunately.

DP.There are people zoned for Richard Montgomery HS who don't live in the City of Rockville, and there are also people who do live in the City of Rockville and aren't zoned for Richard Montgomery HS.

I do not believe that is true. Richard Montgomery draws from the City of Rockville. If you are zoned for RM, you must be living in the City of Rockville. What part of MoCo feeds into RM, but isn't considered City of Rockville?

RM map: http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/RichardMontgomeryHS.pdf
City of Rockville map: http://rockvillemd.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=0aa9fe18b6c64b46a61230da64a2b2fd

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Really? It's not just two small areas, when you look at the rest of the RM area. Over the past 5 years, with all the overdevelopment in the are, there have been hundreds of new housing units put up in the RM cluster.

There are still vacancies at some of the apartment complexes near the Twinbrook Metro - at El Terano, at Escher, at Galvan. Plus, the new development of townhouses at Champman Row. If those all do fill up, it could potentially lead to hundreds of new students attending RM.

Why do you consider it overdevelopment?

It is overdevelopment when so many schools have portables. It is overdevelopment when class sizes are so large. It's overdevelopment when there are insufficient facilities to handle the amount of people in the area. RM is over capacity. My kid's ES has 800 kids and one instrumental music teacher because there are not funds for an additional one.

Developers enjoy pushing the idea that 'growth' is ALWAYS a good thing. Without always planning for traffic issues, or school overcrowding, or park space. MCPS has been overdeveloping for the past decade, uncontrolled, and it's led to quite a decline in the school system, and a decline in the general quality of life.

So if school capacity had kept up, you'd be fine with all of the new housing? The new housing presumably has not led to a decline in the general qualify of life of the people who have moved into it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just sent an email to the Mayor and Mark Pierzchala to NOT set the threshold to 150%.

Mark Pierzchala needs to go. Mayor and Council elections in Rockville are November 2019.

Evidently he and the mayor hate each other and do t talk except to get city business done.

I’m definitely voting for Mark in the next election. I think it’s funny all these people that can’t vote in Rockville elections are hating on him.

I live near RM and I don't care about mayor or any council member get along.

I simply going to vote against the person who wants RM to be at 150%. This kind of crazy person shouldn't be a council member for my city. I am going to ask all my neighbors to vote against this crazy person. Only way to get rid of such kinds are by voting them out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just sent an email to the Mayor and Mark Pierzchala to NOT set the threshold to 150%.

Mark Pierzchala needs to go. Mayor and Council elections in Rockville are November 2019.

Evidently he and the mayor hate each other and do t talk except to get city business done.

I’m definitely voting for Mark in the next election. I think it’s funny all these people that can’t vote in Rockville elections are hating on him.

I CAN vote in Rockville and will not vote for him. I used to support him but no more. I was not always a supporter of Mayor Newton but think she has been a sensible leader and a strong advocate for the City with the county and state.

Why? Just because he wants two small areas to continue to build? It won’t be in most of the city.

Mark Pierzchala is not lobbying to build two buildings or asking for 15 extra seats in RM due to two buildings.

Mark Pierzchala is lobbying to have 1000+ extra kids in RM without having capacity in school. That's what is asking when lobbying for 150% capacity in RM.

Huge difference between these two situations. Please don't spread misinformation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just sent an email to the Mayor and Mark Pierzchala to NOT set the threshold to 150%.

Mark Pierzchala needs to go. Mayor and Council elections in Rockville are November 2019.

Evidently he and the mayor hate each other and do t talk except to get city business done.

I’m definitely voting for Mark in the next election. I think it’s funny all these people that can’t vote in Rockville elections are hating on him.

I CAN vote in Rockville and will not vote for him. I used to support him but no more. I was not always a supporter of Mayor Newton but think she has been a sensible leader and a strong advocate for the City with the county and state.

Why? Just because he wants two small areas to continue to build? It won’t be in most of the city.

Mark Pierzchala is not lobbying to build two buildings or asking for 15 extra seats in RM due to two buildings.

Mark Pierzchala is lobbying to have 1000+ extra kids in RM without having capacity in school. That's what is asking when lobbying for 150% capacity in RM.

Huge difference between these two situations. Please don't spread misinformation.

OMG at 150% capacity RM would be almost like one of the DCC schools@@!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just sent an email to the Mayor and Mark Pierzchala to NOT set the threshold to 150%.

Mark Pierzchala needs to go. Mayor and Council elections in Rockville are November 2019.

Evidently he and the mayor hate each other and do t talk except to get city business done.

I’m definitely voting for Mark in the next election. I think it’s funny all these people that can’t vote in Rockville elections are hating on him.

I CAN vote in Rockville and will not vote for him. I used to support him but no more. I was not always a supporter of Mayor Newton but think she has been a sensible leader and a strong advocate for the City with the county and state.

Why? Just because he wants two small areas to continue to build? It won’t be in most of the city.

Mark Pierzchala is not lobbying to build two buildings or asking for 15 extra seats in RM due to two buildings.

Mark Pierzchala is lobbying to have 1000+ extra kids in RM without having capacity in school. That's what is asking when lobbying for 150% capacity in RM.

Huge difference between these two situations. Please don't spread misinformation.

OMG at 150% capacity RM would be almost like one of the DCC schools@@!

With over crowding and science on cart crap has already reduced RM to 56th percentile despite having IB in school. There are many schools with higher FARMs are rated higher. Making it 150% overcrowded is simply going to put near 25 percentile and property prices in RM will go down. There is reason that TB is still cheaper than Beall despite TB having more houses walk able to metro. School performance is a huge factor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:$2 million to help shore up Dawsons. Wow. That could have been used for the schools and made a huge impact. Instead, they shore up Dawson’s for 5 years and then it closes anyway (most likely).

How is the City giving Dawson's $2 million? They are funding $2 million over 5 years in the form of grants and loans to Town Center businesses. Dawson's has applied for funds and I am sure they will get some, but they are certainly not getting the entire $2 million.

Why can't they ask Federal Realty to lower the rent for Dawson's? Or, for that matter, why can't they ask Federal Realty to lower the rent for all of the businesses at RTC? That would go a long way, because businesses have complained about the high rents.

There is an abundance of empty retail space in Montgomery County. Federal Realty doesn't care if it's buildings remain empty, because they'll just consider it a write off. So, Rockville City taxpayers are paying Federal Realty to allow them to keep the rent artifically high? That makes ZERO sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Really? It's not just two small areas, when you look at the rest of the RM area. Over the past 5 years, with all the overdevelopment in the are, there have been hundreds of new housing units put up in the RM cluster.

There are still vacancies at some of the apartment complexes near the Twinbrook Metro - at El Terano, at Escher, at Galvan. Plus, the new development of townhouses at Champman Row. If those all do fill up, it could potentially lead to hundreds of new students attending RM.

Why do you consider it overdevelopment?

It is overdevelopment when so many schools have portables. It is overdevelopment when class sizes are so large. It's overdevelopment when there are insufficient facilities to handle the amount of people in the area. RM is over capacity. My kid's ES has 800 kids and one instrumental music teacher because there are not funds for an additional one.

Developers enjoy pushing the idea that 'growth' is ALWAYS a good thing. Without always planning for traffic issues, or school overcrowding, or park space. MCPS has been overdeveloping for the past decade, uncontrolled, and it's led to quite a decline in the school system, and a decline in the general quality of life.

Also, it's overdevelopment when there is so many empty residential and commercial units still waiting to be filled. How can the developers say there is a need for more high density housing, when there are so many high density housing units that remain empty?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:$2 million to help shore up Dawsons. Wow. That could have been used for the schools and made a huge impact. Instead, they shore up Dawson’s for 5 years and then it closes anyway (most likely).

How is the City giving Dawson's $2 million? They are funding $2 million over 5 years in the form of grants and loans to Town Center businesses. Dawson's has applied for funds and I am sure they will get some, but they are certainly not getting the entire $2 million.

Why can't they ask Federal Realty to lower the rent for Dawson's? Or, for that matter, why can't they ask Federal Realty to lower the rent for all of the businesses at RTC? That would go a long way, because businesses have complained about the high rents.

There is an abundance of empty retail space in Montgomery County. Federal Realty doesn't care if it's buildings remain empty, because they'll just consider it a write off. So, Rockville City taxpayers are paying Federal Realty to allow them to keep the rent artifically high? That makes ZERO sense.

Wow, I wasn't aware that my tax money is helping Federal Realty to keep rents artificially high. What a waste of money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Really? It's not just two small areas, when you look at the rest of the RM area. Over the past 5 years, with all the overdevelopment in the are, there have been hundreds of new housing units put up in the RM cluster.

There are still vacancies at some of the apartment complexes near the Twinbrook Metro - at El Terano, at Escher, at Galvan. Plus, the new development of townhouses at Champman Row. If those all do fill up, it could potentially lead to hundreds of new students attending RM.

Why do you consider it overdevelopment?

It is overdevelopment when so many schools have portables. It is overdevelopment when class sizes are so large. It's overdevelopment when there are insufficient facilities to handle the amount of people in the area. RM is over capacity. My kid's ES has 800 kids and one instrumental music teacher because there are not funds for an additional one.

Developers enjoy pushing the idea that 'growth' is ALWAYS a good thing. Without always planning for traffic issues, or school overcrowding, or park space. MCPS has been overdeveloping for the past decade, uncontrolled, and it's led to quite a decline in the school system, and a decline in the general quality of life.

Also, it's overdevelopment when there is so many empty residential and commercial units still waiting to be filled. How can the developers say there is a need for more high density housing, when there are so many high density housing units that remain empty?

How do you know that there are "so many" empty units? Builders lose money when their buildings don't sell. And construction is expensive. It's odd that they keep building stuff that they lose money on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

With over crowding and science on cart crap has already reduced RM to 56th percentile despite having IB in school. There are many schools with higher FARMs are rated higher. Making it 150% overcrowded is simply going to put near 25 percentile and property prices in RM will go down. There is reason that TB is still cheaper than Beall despite TB having more houses walk able to metro. School performance is a huge factor.

Please explain what "science on cart crap" is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Mark Pierzchala is not lobbying to build two buildings or asking for 15 extra seats in RM due to two buildings.

Mark Pierzchala is lobbying to have 1000+ extra kids in RM without having capacity in school. That's what is asking when lobbying for 150% capacity in RM.

Huge difference between these two situations. Please don't spread misinformation.

The capacity of RM is 2,236 students. 120% of capacity is 2,683 students. 150% of capacity is 3,354. 3,354 - 2,683 = 671 students.

Mark Pierzchala thinks that the limit for the City of Rockville to allow development plans should be raised from the projected enrollment 5 years out at Richard Montgomery HS being 2,683 to the projected enrollment being 3,354 - i.e., 671 more students than currently.

Note that this doesn't mean that the *actual* enrollment at Richard Montgomery would ever be 3,354. MCPS is building Crown HS (funding for the project starts in July 2019), and Richard Montgomery HS will be part of the rezoning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Really? It's not just two small areas, when you look at the rest of the RM area. Over the past 5 years, with all the overdevelopment in the are, there have been hundreds of new housing units put up in the RM cluster.

There are still vacancies at some of the apartment complexes near the Twinbrook Metro - at El Terano, at Escher, at Galvan. Plus, the new development of townhouses at Champman Row. If those all do fill up, it could potentially lead to hundreds of new students attending RM.

Why do you consider it overdevelopment?

It is overdevelopment when so many schools have portables. It is overdevelopment when class sizes are so large. It's overdevelopment when there are insufficient facilities to handle the amount of people in the area. RM is over capacity. My kid's ES has 800 kids and one instrumental music teacher because there are not funds for an additional one.

Developers enjoy pushing the idea that 'growth' is ALWAYS a good thing. Without always planning for traffic issues, or school overcrowding, or park space. MCPS has been overdeveloping for the past decade, uncontrolled, and it's led to quite a decline in the school system, and a decline in the general quality of life.

Also, it's overdevelopment when there is so many empty residential and commercial units still waiting to be filled. How can the developers say there is a need for more high density housing, when there are so many high density housing units that remain empty?

How do you know that there are "so many" empty units? Builders lose money when their buildings don't sell. And construction is expensive. It's odd that they keep building stuff that they lose money on.

It’s not odd because the landlords wire off the losses and are fine with the units being empty.

Do you live in the area? Drive around the Twinbrook Metro. There are tons of empty apartments there. When they do all fill, there will be even more kids at RM.