RM Cluster Overcrowding?

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Anonymous wrote:$2 million to help shore up Dawsons. Wow. That could have been used for the schools and made a huge impact. Instead, they shore up Dawson’s for 5 years and then it closes anyway (most likely).


How is the City giving Dawson's $2 million? They are funding $2 million over 5 years in the form of grants and loans to Town Center businesses. Dawson's has applied for funds and I am sure they will get some, but they are certainly not getting the entire $2 million.


Why can't they ask Federal Realty to lower the rent for Dawson's? Or, for that matter, why can't they ask Federal Realty to lower the rent for all of the businesses at RTC? That would go a long way, because businesses have complained about the high rents.

There is an abundance of empty retail space in Montgomery County. Federal Realty doesn't care if it's buildings remain empty, because they'll just consider it a write off. So, Rockville City taxpayers are paying Federal Realty to allow them to keep the rent artifically high? That makes ZERO sense.


Wow, I wasn't aware that my tax money is helping Federal Realty to keep rents artificially high. What a waste of money.


I agree. Federal Realty owns a good amount of commercial real estate in MoCo. They have shown themselves to be greedy and not interested in working with the citizens of the area. They were the ones who chased Barnes and noble out of Bethesda, when residents were sad to see B&N go.
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With over crowding and science on cart crap has already reduced RM to 56th percentile despite having IB in school. There are many schools with higher FARMs are rated higher. Making it 150% overcrowded is simply going to put near 25 percentile and property prices in RM will go down. There is reason that TB is still cheaper than Beall despite TB having more houses walk able to metro. School performance is a huge factor.


Please explain what "science on cart crap" is.


Science lab in cart. It's a bad situation.

Please speak to RM students. School not able to provide basic science lab is simply tragic and that's not unforeseen. This is what happens when you put 120 students in facility designed for 100 students and here we have our great council members trying to push it to 150 students to help developers.
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With over crowding and science on cart crap has already reduced RM to 56th percentile despite having IB in school. There are many schools with higher FARMs are rated higher. Making it 150% overcrowded is simply going to put near 25 percentile and property prices in RM will go down. There is reason that TB is still cheaper than Beall despite TB having more houses walk able to metro. School performance is a huge factor.


Please explain what "science on cart crap" is.


Science lab in cart. It's a bad situation.

Please speak to RM students. School not able to provide basic science lab is simply tragic and that's not unforeseen. This is what happens when you put 120 students in facility designed for 100 students and here we have our great council members trying to push it to 150 students to help developers.


You should have a word with the principal, then. My kid's high school is as over-capacity as RM, but the science labs are regular science labs.
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I agree. Federal Realty owns a good amount of commercial real estate in MoCo. They have shown themselves to be greedy and not interested in working with the citizens of the area. They were the ones who chased Barnes and noble out of Bethesda, when residents were sad to see B&N go.


Then the residents should have bought more stuff at B&N.
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Anonymous wrote:Just sent an email to the Mayor and Mark Pierzchala to NOT set the threshold to 150%.


Mark Pierzchala needs to go. Mayor and Council elections in Rockville are November 2019.


Evidently he and the mayor hate each other and do t talk except to get city business done.

I’m definitely voting for Mark in the next election. I think it’s funny all these people that can’t vote in Rockville elections are hating on him.


I live near RM and I don't care about mayor or any council member get along.

I simply going to vote against the person who wants RM to be at 150%. This kind of crazy person shouldn't be a council member for my city. I am going to ask all my neighbors to vote against this crazy person. Only way to get rid of such kinds are by voting them out.


This just shows you don’t get it. He doesn’t want it to be 150%. He wants to allow building at the town center and Twinbrook. The whole RM zone isn’t being increased and there won’t be enough students from those two areas to generate 150% capacity.
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Mark Pierzchala is not lobbying to build two buildings or asking for 15 extra seats in RM due to two buildings.

Mark Pierzchala is lobbying to have 1000+ extra kids in RM without having capacity in school.
That's what is asking when lobbying for 150% capacity in RM.

Huge difference between these two situations. Please don't spread misinformation.



The capacity of RM is 2,236 students. 120% of capacity is 2,683 students. 150% of capacity is 3,354. 3,354 - 2,683 = 671 students.

Mark Pierzchala thinks that the limit for the City of Rockville to allow development plans should be raised from the projected enrollment 5 years out at Richard Montgomery HS being 2,683 to the projected enrollment being 3,354 - i.e., 671 more students than currently.

Note that this doesn't mean that the *actual* enrollment at Richard Montgomery would ever be 3,354. MCPS is building Crown HS (funding for the project starts in July 2019), and Richard Montgomery HS will be part of the rezoning.


Mark Pierzchala thinks that it's a perfectly all right to have 150% students in RM HS.
That means he is lobbying for having 3354 kids in a facility designed for 2236 kids.



Increasing limit to 3,354 exactly means that Mark Pierzchala is perfectly fine to have 3354 students.


There is no confusion in that part and please don't confuse anyone. Everyone needs to vote out council members who don't care about education and only care about grocery stores and developers.

Crown doesn't have any start date right now. Constructions doesn't start in July 2019. Simply said, RM is not going to get any help in near future, but Mark Pierzchala is happy to make a crowded situation worse.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just sent an email to the Mayor and Mark Pierzchala to NOT set the threshold to 150%.


Mark Pierzchala needs to go. Mayor and Council elections in Rockville are November 2019.


Evidently he and the mayor hate each other and do t talk except to get city business done.

I’m definitely voting for Mark in the next election. I think it’s funny all these people that can’t vote in Rockville elections are hating on him.


I live near RM and I don't care about mayor or any council member get along.

I simply going to vote against the person who wants RM to be at 150%. This kind of crazy person shouldn't be a council member for my city. I am going to ask all my neighbors to vote against this crazy person. Only way to get rid of such kinds are by voting them out.


This just shows you don’t get it. He doesn’t want it to be 150%. He wants to allow building at the town center and Twinbrook. The whole RM zone isn’t being increased and there won’t be enough students from those two areas to generate 150% capacity.


If he doesn't want 150% then why the hell he is lobbying for 150%? If two zones are going to add 20 HS students then why not lobby for 121% which will accommodate those extra 20 HS students. Action speaks louder than words.






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Mark Pierzchala thinks that it's a perfectly all right to have 150% students in RM HS. [/b][b]That means he is lobbying for having 3354 kids in a facility designed for 2236 kids.

Increasing limit to 3,354 exactly means that Mark Pierzchala is perfectly fine to have 3354 students.

There is no confusion in that part and please don't confuse anyone. Everyone needs to vote out council members who don't care about education and only care about grocery stores and developers.

Crown doesn't have any start date right now. Constructions doesn't start in July 2019. Simply said, RM is not going to get any help in near future, but Mark Pierzchala is happy to make a crowded situation worse.



Well, I am not Mark Pierzchala (and neither are you, presumably), but from what he's said -- no, it doesn't mean that.

Also, of course Crown doesn't have a start date yet. That doesn't mean it won't happen. First you plan, then you put the contract out to bid, then you award the contract, then you build. That's totally standard.
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If he doesn't want 150% then why the hell he is lobbying for 150%? If two zones are going to add 20 HS students then why not lobby for 121% which will accommodate those extra 20 HS students. Action speaks louder than words.



Because he wants to the City of Rockville to be able to approve development applications that bring the projected enrollment in 5 years to greater than 120% but less than 150%, in the hopes that this will spur MCPS to increase capacity while also allowing needed development at Rockville Town Center and Twinbrook.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

With over crowding and science on cart crap has already reduced RM to 56th percentile despite having IB in school. There are many schools with higher FARMs are rated higher. Making it 150% overcrowded is simply going to put near 25 percentile and property prices in RM will go down. There is reason that TB is still cheaper than Beall despite TB having more houses walk able to metro. School performance is a huge factor.


Please explain what "science on cart crap" is.


Science lab in cart. It's a bad situation.

Please speak to RM students. School not able to provide basic science lab is simply tragic and that's not unforeseen. This is what happens when you put 120 students in facility designed for 100 students and here we have our great council members trying to push it to 150 students to help developers.


Could you type this in better English and actually eplain what you are talking about?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Mark Pierzchala is not lobbying to build two buildings or asking for 15 extra seats in RM due to two buildings.

Mark Pierzchala is lobbying to have 1000+ extra kids in RM without having capacity in school.
That's what is asking when lobbying for 150% capacity in RM.

Huge difference between these two situations. Please don't spread misinformation.



The capacity of RM is 2,236 students. 120% of capacity is 2,683 students. 150% of capacity is 3,354. 3,354 - 2,683 = 671 students.

Mark Pierzchala thinks that the limit for the City of Rockville to allow development plans should be raised from the projected enrollment 5 years out at Richard Montgomery HS being 2,683 to the projected enrollment being 3,354 - i.e., 671 more students than currently.

Note that this doesn't mean that the *actual* enrollment at Richard Montgomery would ever be 3,354. MCPS is building Crown HS (funding for the project starts in July 2019), and Richard Montgomery HS will be part of the rezoning.


Mark Pierzchala thinks that it's a perfectly all right to have 150% students in RM HS.
That means he is lobbying for having 3354 kids in a facility designed for 2236 kids.



Increasing limit to 3,354 exactly means that Mark Pierzchala is perfectly fine to have 3354 students.


There is no confusion in that part and please don't confuse anyone. Everyone needs to vote out council members who don't care about education and only care about grocery stores and developers.

Crown doesn't have any start date right now. Constructions doesn't start in July 2019. Simply said, RM is not going to get any help in near future, but Mark Pierzchala is happy to make a crowded situation worse.



Why are you making things up? He literally said this wouldn’t happen.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just sent an email to the Mayor and Mark Pierzchala to NOT set the threshold to 150%.


Mark Pierzchala needs to go. Mayor and Council elections in Rockville are November 2019.


Evidently he and the mayor hate each other and do t talk except to get city business done.

I’m definitely voting for Mark in the next election. I think it’s funny all these people that can’t vote in Rockville elections are hating on him.


I live near RM and I don't care about mayor or any council member get along.

I simply going to vote against the person who wants RM to be at 150%. This kind of crazy person shouldn't be a council member for my city. I am going to ask all my neighbors to vote against this crazy person. Only way to get rid of such kinds are by voting them out.


This just shows you don’t get it. He doesn’t want it to be 150%. He wants to allow building at the town center and Twinbrook. The whole RM zone isn’t being increased and there won’t be enough students from those two areas to generate 150% capacity.


If he doesn't want 150% then why the hell he is lobbying for 150%? If two zones are going to add 20 HS students then why not lobby for 121% which will accommodate those extra 20 HS students. Action speaks louder than words.








Since you clearly weren't at the meeting and haven't watched it, I'll do the hard work for you.

http://rockvillemd.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=3940
2:13:55

He literally addresses your concerns.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just sent an email to the Mayor and Mark Pierzchala to NOT set the threshold to 150%.


Mark Pierzchala needs to go. Mayor and Council elections in Rockville are November 2019.


Evidently he and the mayor hate each other and do t talk except to get city business done.

I’m definitely voting for Mark in the next election. I think it’s funny all these people that can’t vote in Rockville elections are hating on him.


I live near RM and I don't care about mayor or any council member get along.

I simply going to vote against the person who wants RM to be at 150%. This kind of crazy person shouldn't be a council member for my city. I am going to ask all my neighbors to vote against this crazy person. Only way to get rid of such kinds are by voting them out.


This just shows you don’t get it. He doesn’t want it to be 150%. He wants to allow building at the town center and Twinbrook. The whole RM zone isn’t being increased and there won’t be enough students from those two areas to generate 150% capacity.


If he doesn't want 150% then why the hell he is lobbying for 150%? If two zones are going to add 20 HS students then why not lobby for 121% which will accommodate those extra 20 HS students. Action speaks louder than words.








Since you clearly weren't at the meeting and haven't watched it, I'll do the hard work for you.

http://rockvillemd.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=3940
2:13:55

He literally addresses your concerns.


I posted this link but actually suggest you watch the entire discussion about it. The whole thing is good, including the information from the developer. All this hand wringing and over-the-top screaming about a thousand extra kids at RM is just hyperbole. In fact, if you watch the video, the Twinbrook build is 80% going to WJ and that area is going to be built out over TWO DECADES. Watch the video.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

With over crowding and science on cart crap has already reduced RM to 56th percentile despite having IB in school. There are many schools with higher FARMs are rated higher. Making it 150% overcrowded is simply going to put near 25 percentile and property prices in RM will go down. There is reason that TB is still cheaper than Beall despite TB having more houses walk able to metro. School performance is a huge factor.


Please explain what "science on cart crap" is.


Science lab in cart. It's a bad situation.

Please speak to RM students. School not able to provide basic science lab is simply tragic and that's not unforeseen. This is what happens when you put 120 students in facility designed for 100 students and here we have our great council members trying to push it to 150 students to help developers.


Could you type this in better English and actually eplain what you are talking about?


Wow. You are truly unpleasant.

The area that feeds into RM is incredibly diverse with many people who speak a first language other than English. It is likely that PP’s first language is not English.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
If he doesn't want 150% then why the hell he is lobbying for 150%? If two zones are going to add 20 HS students then why not lobby for 121% which will accommodate those extra 20 HS students. Action speaks louder than words.



Because he wants to the City of Rockville to be able to approve development applications that bring the projected enrollment in 5 years to greater than 120% but less than 150%, in the hopes that this will spur MCPS to increase capacity while also allowing needed development at Rockville Town Center and Twinbrook.


‘Needed’ development? Who NEEDS the development? I disagree that it is needed. And would argue, that it is detrimental.

Federal Realty needs the money, I guess. They are the ones benefitting from the City of Rockville funded grants.
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