I’m 20w pregnant. My fiance told me he has herpes.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm very sorry you are going thru this. Unfortunately, I have a family member who went through something similar (i.e. a partner who had herpes) and I myself ended up with someone who had undisclosed herpes.

My view of this through my family member's experience shaped my own decision years later. My family member was pregnant, her husband had herpes. I don't know what the discussion was about that - whether he disclosed - prior to pregnancy, but I do know that she discovered that her baby was anencephalic (meaning developed without a brain) in the 8th month, as a consequence of herpes infection during pregnancy. She went through the trauma of deciding whether to have an abortion or birth the baby, the latter of which also involved thinking about whether the baby would be provided life saving supports like intubation, resuscitation, etc. if necessary. She decided to have an abortion, and when she went to the hospital for the procedure, she was informed that the baby was already without a heartbeat, and she ended up having a stillbirth. Because I worked in reproductive health policy at the time, the couple turned to me to ask questions about abortion, where to get one, how to handle the stillbirth, whether they should see the baby after birth, etc. The whole situation was heartbreaking.

More than 2 decades later, I came to find out that my partner, father of my child, also had herpes and actively hid the infection from me. I won't get into how I found out. He tried to convince me of what many are saying on this thread -- "it's only oral herpes, everyone has that and it's not dangerous". Except his oral herpes can be transmitted to my genitals through oral sex, so IMO he should have disclosed to me and let me make my own decision about whether to continue to have sex with him. He also tried to say he had it before we met, and it wasn't through any cheating, but that, OFC, turned out to be false.

TBH, I was never able to get past the lies. Sex with him started to feel very rapey to me - he was not giving me full informed consent to our sex. He lied about the herpes deliberately because he was afraid I would make a choice he didn't like, so he chose to control the information I had so that I would continue to sleep with him. I had no idea what was going on and exposed myself and a child (because I was pregnant after he knew he had herpes but before I knew he had herpes). Having had my family experience with pregnancy and herpes, I just could not accept the level of risk he was willing to place on me without my knowledge.

I asked him to move out. I kept full custody of our 2 children, who were only toddlers at the time, and he had visitation. Was it hard? Frightfully, but staying and raising children with a partner who was fundamentally a danger to me and the kids would have been way worse. The kind of person who would be so reckless and manipulative, also presented similar character problems as our children grew into adults. I was never going to be able to change him into the kind of person who would care about others, protect them and do the thing that would be hard for him but better for others.

There is not a day I have looked back and wished I stayed with him. I only wish I had left immediately, instead of taking a year to try and hear his side of the story (a story that he gaslight and trickle-truther about), get couples therapy, etc.

OFC, YMMV. What you decide to do is your choice.

I just wanted to share that it is OK to take this situation seriously and to end a relationship over it. I chose safety for myself, and that is OK.

Sorry this all happened to you PP. I also have a friend who lost a baby to a similar situation-late term baby developed without a brain. Not sure if she also has herpes but I have noticed her with a cold sore before so that could have been why.

Let's explain that. It's called anencephaly. It is a neural tube defect that begins in the first few weeks of pregnancy, one of the causes is a lack of folate, among others, as well as bad luck, like many congenital anomalies. No, it does not come from herpes for the love of God. Where the F did you come up with that? You need to realize thar millions of women have herpes, and no, it's not just the men spreading it around. There's HSV1 and HSV 2, and both can present upstairs and downstairs. If there is a possibility of a vaginal birth with herpes, there's all good ways to prevent that. It's NOT A PROBLEM.
What is worse? A staph infection, not even an STD. Mom can have that on her own, not partner driven.

Can the stupid ones just shut up today? The woman above decided to leave her husband with 2 kids over cold sores. I mean, there are crazy people. Let's not normalize it.

"This can cause a baby to grow without a brain"
"It's NOT A PROBLEM"

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Anonymous wrote:Where are some getting the fixation OP would be in for a custody fight if she ditched her fiancee?
Where does it say he even wants custody?
Depending on her state of residence custody may not automatically be 50 50 for a baby daddy.

Lol. So much stupid in one day. I have had enough.

Yea, let’s all grow fatherless babies if their bio dads had herpes

It’s NOT ABOUT HAVING HERPES.

It’s about being untrustworthy.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm very sorry you are going thru this. Unfortunately, I have a family member who went through something similar (i.e. a partner who had herpes) and I myself ended up with someone who had undisclosed herpes.

My view of this through my family member's experience shaped my own decision years later. My family member was pregnant, her husband had herpes. I don't know what the discussion was about that - whether he disclosed - prior to pregnancy, but I do know that she discovered that her baby was anencephalic (meaning developed without a brain) in the 8th month, as a consequence of herpes infection during pregnancy. She went through the trauma of deciding whether to have an abortion or birth the baby, the latter of which also involved thinking about whether the baby would be provided life saving supports like intubation, resuscitation, etc. if necessary. She decided to have an abortion, and when she went to the hospital for the procedure, she was informed that the baby was already without a heartbeat, and she ended up having a stillbirth. Because I worked in reproductive health policy at the time, the couple turned to me to ask questions about abortion, where to get one, how to handle the stillbirth, whether they should see the baby after birth, etc. The whole situation was heartbreaking.

More than 2 decades later, I came to find out that my partner, father of my child, also had herpes and actively hid the infection from me. I won't get into how I found out. He tried to convince me of what many are saying on this thread -- "it's only oral herpes, everyone has that and it's not dangerous". Except his oral herpes can be transmitted to my genitals through oral sex, so IMO he should have disclosed to me and let me make my own decision about whether to continue to have sex with him. He also tried to say he had it before we met, and it wasn't through any cheating, but that, OFC, turned out to be false.

TBH, I was never able to get past the lies. Sex with him started to feel very rapey to me - he was not giving me full informed consent to our sex. He lied about the herpes deliberately because he was afraid I would make a choice he didn't like, so he chose to control the information I had so that I would continue to sleep with him. I had no idea what was going on and exposed myself and a child (because I was pregnant after he knew he had herpes but before I knew he had herpes). Having had my family experience with pregnancy and herpes, I just could not accept the level of risk he was willing to place on me without my knowledge.

I asked him to move out. I kept full custody of our 2 children, who were only toddlers at the time, and he had visitation. Was it hard? Frightfully, but staying and raising children with a partner who was fundamentally a danger to me and the kids would have been way worse. The kind of person who would be so reckless and manipulative, also presented similar character problems as our children grew into adults. I was never going to be able to change him into the kind of person who would care about others, protect them and do the thing that would be hard for him but better for others.

There is not a day I have looked back and wished I stayed with him. I only wish I had left immediately, instead of taking a year to try and hear his side of the story (a story that he gaslight and trickle-truther about), get couples therapy, etc.

OFC, YMMV. What you decide to do is your choice.

I just wanted to share that it is OK to take this situation seriously and to end a relationship over it. I chose safety for myself, and that is OK.

Sorry this all happened to you PP. I also have a friend who lost a baby to a similar situation-late term baby developed without a brain. Not sure if she also has herpes but I have noticed her with a cold sore before so that could have been why.

Let's explain that. It's called anencephaly. It is a neural tube defect that begins in the first few weeks of pregnancy, one of the causes is a lack of folate, among others, as well as bad luck, like many congenital anomalies. No, it does not come from herpes for the love of God. Where the F did you come up with that? You need to realize thar millions of women have herpes, and no, it's not just the men spreading it around. There's HSV1 and HSV 2, and both can present upstairs and downstairs. If there is a possibility of a vaginal birth with herpes, there's all good ways to prevent that. It's NOT A PROBLEM.
What is worse? A staph infection, not even an STD. Mom can have that on her own, not partner driven.

Can the stupid ones just shut up today? The woman above decided to leave her husband with 2 kids over cold sores. I mean, there are crazy people. Let's not normalize it.

"There are three main types of neonatal herpes. Healthcare providers classify the condition according to the parts of a baby’s body that HSV affects:

Skin, eye and mouth disease (SEM disease). Fluid-filled blisters form on your baby’s skin, in their mouth and around their eyes.
CNS disease (brain disease). The virus grows and multiplies in your baby’s central nervous system, affecting their brain and spinal cord. Your baby may not have signs or symptoms early on, and blisters may not form on their skin.
Disseminated disease: The virus affects multiple parts of your baby’s body, including major organs like their liver and lungs. In some cases, it affects your baby’s brain."

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Anonymous wrote:OP - can he just be freaking out about a test that revealed an old infection ? Many people may not realize they have it. It’s a stressful time for both of you

He could be freaking out just as much as you do

He sent this last night:

“I did not cheat on you, I never have. I checked when I got home again because I didn't have the test results in front of me when I was telling you.

The last two tests that I have showing a positive test were in April 2022 which makes sense because I requested an STD panel after my divorce. And the most recent one was in January 2025. Even my 2022 results, My doctor said that I was "exposed" to an STD but there was no further follow-up because I had no symptoms and there was no back and forth on it. And even this wasn't verbal, this is me interpreting the the labs after the fact.

Then I was tested when I was in DC with you last year, I just did a general annual checkup. I did not request a herpes test. I have been going to the same doctor for 10 years in this HSV-2 panel was only on two of my screens. Again my doctor did not say anything to me about the results. I look more into my own health results as an as an entirety once I found out you were pregnant.”

He got divorced about 4 years ago…

That sounds fully credible OP. Up to you if you want to tank the relationship or not. Since you aren’t married and he is divorced, my guess is that this relationship was never going to go the distance anyway. I suggest just breaking up and working on a custody agreement. Easier on everyone.

Divorced people can’t get remarried and it work out?

I think a well-educated divorced man who hasn’t actually married his pregnant girlfriend by 20 weeks is probably not really that into the whole deal. Maybe he would have married her eventually but sounds like he is not really that enthusiastic.

Op here,

We got engaged in December. Our babymoon is (was supposed to be) next month - a few days in Miami then finishing the trip in PR. We planned on getting married on the beach, just the two of us. Then have a wedding with family and friends June 2027.

Have you started cancelling this stuff and rescheduling your flight for something else?

Luckily, I didn’t pay for anything. I plan on taking a trip with my girlfriends but I haven’t said or done anything yet. Needed time to wrap my head around things and get through my appointment first.

OP you need to come down to earth. Are you prepared to see your baby only 50% of the time? Because 50-50 custody is the norm, and no, a judge will not give you sole custody because you are breastfeeding or you are over-reacting to this.

I suggest you go to family therapy with your fiance to better understand what happened. While I would certainly be upset if I were you, unless there were other big issues, there is no way I would walk out on my baby’s father just for this. You truly are having a very intense reaction that many people would not have, and you need to wrap your head around that. There is more than one way to see this situation.

Thank you. I don’t think I’m overreacting at all, and I think a lot of people would have this reaction, especially a pregnant woman. You were willing to put my health, but more importantly our baby’s health at risk because you’re too much of a coward? If I hadn’t pressed that night when was he going to tell me? It wasn’t when he proposed, it wasn’t when he found out I was pregnant- so no major life event did it, so when? I just can’t wrap my mind around that. Then there’s the added layer of what else are you hiding? Along with a ton of resentment. He broke my trust in a major way. You can’t be with someone you don’t trust.

I don’t mind going to therapy for the sake of our baby, even if it’s just for coparenting but as of right now that’s all I can see for us. Maybe cooler heads will prevail because I definitely see what you’re saying. Maybe I’ll feel differently when the baby is actually here.

You ARE reacting a lot more intensely than other people would. That is the point. You feel how you feel but it is not the only possible option here. You are being very dramatic and it is not clear that it is warranted. He told you the truth but just not on the timeline you wanted.

Again if you want to lose custody of your baby 50% of the time because you prefer to play the victim instead of working things out, go ahead.

PP you are the epitome of the low standards accepting woman on this site that then comes whining about how terrible their life is. Stop trying to bring others down to your level.

I don't understand the mentality of "well he's a shit partner, but it could be worse!" Like yikes, please have some standards and self esteem.

Except- he isn't a sh!++ partner. All of you are inserting motivations that are simply not there. And this is from actual text of the OP who has explained what happened. You are dragging your own baggage in here.

I don’t want VD. And I consider anyone who would give me VD a sh!++Y partner

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Anonymous wrote:The nonchalant attitude so many of you have towards a highly infectious permanent condition that requires some folks to take daily medication to manage is kind of insane.

I am truly confused how some of you seem to think this is just no big deal at all. If someone gave me genital herpes because they decided their previous (not 1 but 2) positive results were unimportant would be infuriating to me. There is no way I would stay with such a person. Like How frekan dare you.

The nonchalant attitude the rest of you have about encouraging OP to kick her baby daddy to the curb before her baby even enters the world is equally insane

Agree. They think somehow OP will be a winner in this zero sum game. But- these posters don't have to live her upcoming life.
Ha! What does she win? Let's see:
1. She leaves a guy who loves her. And it's clear he does. Mistakes were made, but he loves her and the baby.

2. She will have a baby that she will have only partial custody of.

3. Boyfriend will immediately move on and there will be step mom, there absolutely will, right in the inception of this baby's life, so, yes, she is Mom, too.

4. OP will have zero, and I mean ZERO control over what happens when she drops off this 3 month old, 3 years old, 10 year old, 16 year old kid to him. All medical decisions will have to go through him. School, church, even scouts.

5. OP will not necessarily move on. She's a single mom now of an infant, toddler, kid, teenager. And we all know how that plays out on Tinder. Plus, her backstory will be that she left him as he had herpes- she will likely test positive at some point, because that will always be a possibility- added bonus points on the dating scene there, right?

6. She will be in court for the next 22 years working out child support , custody, college, because raising a kid in her own will be more $$ than she ever thought it will be. And she will always have to deal with Mom # 2- you know, the one who didn't care about the herpes at all, and married the Dad because he wants to have a family. Millions of people have herpes. Millions.
Meanwhile, she will start off broke because getting a lawyer over this will be very expensive...and they aren't even married. She thinks she will have some legal upper hand with money or custody over this herpes disclosure, and I am here to say, no- she will have nothing. It's not a deal breaker in court at all.

7. Boyfriend will have more kids with new wife, and that will be baby's family. Those kids will be siblings.
8. She will never be able to move away from the area, and Daddy (and step mom) will have requests and opinions that she doesn't like ..everything from school to camp to sports to clothes, vacations, friends. All out of OP's control now. But most woman assume they are in control, and are shocked to find out how quickly they have no control over their kid really. It'a staggeringly depressing and really frightening, so let's add the declining mental state to her list of developments.

She will have not won anything. She's angry now, but let's assume after this revelation she will have counseling and make an appropriate decision.


Don't dive into the gene pool without a life guard, people.

How can you say he loves her when he lied to her, infected her with an incurable disease and only came clean 4 years later? You're actually so insane for suggesting this is NBD and OP should stick by her lying diseased untrustworthy baby daddy.

All the rest of your reasons are just crap. Don't leave the liar who infected you with an incurable disease because... he may have more children? Jesus Christ your bar is beyond hell. I seriously hope that women never take this kind of advice. There is zero, I repeat ZERO reason that OP is better off staying with a lying AH who sexually assaulted her. What a shit take.

Because you are the one jumping to conclusions here about lying. Even with OP's bias here, and she of course has one- it's plain as day that he did not realize he had herpes 4 years ago. He actually said that. He did not understand it at all, like a lot of people here...just read this whole thread- this isn't a clear cut issue. He did realize it 4 months ago when something happened to make him check, and that would be the baby coming. So many people think they have it only when it shows up. This guy went through a very tough time trying to figure out what to say or do. No, he's not getting a pat in the back, but because he had no symptoms he could have NEVER said anything, ever. He realized now this could possibly affect the baby. It was clear by OP's post that he was in deep turmoil. He put the baby first.

He really didn't get it, that was clear. He isn't a liar, he isn't an abuser, he isn't a narcissist. He's dumb about herpes, so is OP. You are the one filling in a context that isn't there.

Both here are really naive, actually, and OP doesn't get to hold a torch of responsibility up because she is also late to the party. She never tested and didn't ask him to. Don't bring your personal issues into something that doesn't fit.

This thread should end. OP and boyfriend need counseling, and a doctor. That's all.

“So I tested positive for herpes 4 yrs ago but thought NAH can’t be me”
“I tested positive for herpes 1 year ago but thought NAH can’t be me”

Be so fu##ing for real right now.
Idk if he’s a narc, but he’s sure as fu## an abuser and a liar. 1000x he is. You are an abuse enabler by trying to coerce op to stay with her abuser. Disgusting.

And you are immature with no reading comprehension. Lol

Where's the issue in reading comprehension? He got tested years ago, was positive. Got tested more recently, positive again. He knew he had it and didn't tell op. He's a liar and potentially gave her an STD. Not sure how many you have that it's NBD, maybe youre a collector of sorts. Most of us aren't.

Anyone who dealt with medical professionals on this one would tell that doctors play herpes down a lot. He could have not placed any significant value in his positive tests until OP got pregnant. And then the doctors advised him it could affect the baby or he read online himself. So at that point he felt that it would be important to tell OP

Medical disclosures and their boundaries are grey area. I wouldn’t necessarily consider his decision making unethical unless OP clearly stated to him prior to having sex that heroes status was important to her

They play it down because of the mental health aspects of it.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm very sorry you are going thru this. Unfortunately, I have a family member who went through something similar (i.e. a partner who had herpes) and I myself ended up with someone who had undisclosed herpes.

My view of this through my family member's experience shaped my own decision years later. My family member was pregnant, her husband had herpes. I don't know what the discussion was about that - whether he disclosed - prior to pregnancy, but I do know that she discovered that her baby was anencephalic (meaning developed without a brain) in the 8th month, as a consequence of herpes infection during pregnancy. She went through the trauma of deciding whether to have an abortion or birth the baby, the latter of which also involved thinking about whether the baby would be provided life saving supports like intubation, resuscitation, etc. if necessary. She decided to have an abortion, and when she went to the hospital for the procedure, she was informed that the baby was already without a heartbeat, and she ended up having a stillbirth. Because I worked in reproductive health policy at the time, the couple turned to me to ask questions about abortion, where to get one, how to handle the stillbirth, whether they should see the baby after birth, etc. The whole situation was heartbreaking.

More than 2 decades later, I came to find out that my partner, father of my child, also had herpes and actively hid the infection from me. I won't get into how I found out. He tried to convince me of what many are saying on this thread -- "it's only oral herpes, everyone has that and it's not dangerous". Except his oral herpes can be transmitted to my genitals through oral sex, so IMO he should have disclosed to me and let me make my own decision about whether to continue to have sex with him. He also tried to say he had it before we met, and it wasn't through any cheating, but that, OFC, turned out to be false.

TBH, I was never able to get past the lies. Sex with him started to feel very rapey to me - he was not giving me full informed consent to our sex. He lied about the herpes deliberately because he was afraid I would make a choice he didn't like, so he chose to control the information I had so that I would continue to sleep with him. I had no idea what was going on and exposed myself and a child (because I was pregnant after he knew he had herpes but before I knew he had herpes). Having had my family experience with pregnancy and herpes, I just could not accept the level of risk he was willing to place on me without my knowledge.

I asked him to move out. I kept full custody of our 2 children, who were only toddlers at the time, and he had visitation. Was it hard? Frightfully, but staying and raising children with a partner who was fundamentally a danger to me and the kids would have been way worse. The kind of person who would be so reckless and manipulative, also presented similar character problems as our children grew into adults. I was never going to be able to change him into the kind of person who would care about others, protect them and do the thing that would be hard for him but better for others.

There is not a day I have looked back and wished I stayed with him. I only wish I had left immediately, instead of taking a year to try and hear his side of the story (a story that he gaslight and trickle-truther about), get couples therapy, etc.

OFC, YMMV. What you decide to do is your choice.

I just wanted to share that it is OK to take this situation seriously and to end a relationship over it. I chose safety for myself, and that is OK.

Sorry this all happened to you PP. I also have a friend who lost a baby to a similar situation-late term baby developed without a brain. Not sure if she also has herpes but I have noticed her with a cold sore before so that could have been why.

Let's explain that. It's called anencephaly. It is a neural tube defect that begins in the first few weeks of pregnancy, one of the causes is a lack of folate, among others, as well as bad luck, like many congenital anomalies. No, it does not come from herpes for the love of God. Where the F did you come up with that? You need to realize thar millions of women have herpes, and no, it's not just the men spreading it around. There's HSV1 and HSV 2, and both can present upstairs and downstairs. If there is a possibility of a vaginal birth with herpes, there's all good ways to prevent that. It's NOT A PROBLEM.
What is worse? A staph infection, not even an STD. Mom can have that on her own, not partner driven.

Can the stupid ones just shut up today? The woman above decided to leave her husband with 2 kids over cold sores. I mean, there are crazy people. Let's not normalize it.

I don’t have nor do I want cold sores or herpes. I’ve seen someone with a herpes infection on his mouth. It was horrible. Not sure why this is being downplayed.

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Anonymous wrote:The nonchalant attitude so many of you have towards a highly infectious permanent condition that requires some folks to take daily medication to manage is kind of insane.

I am truly confused how some of you seem to think this is just no big deal at all. If someone gave me genital herpes because they decided their previous (not 1 but 2) positive results were unimportant would be infuriating to me. There is no way I would stay with such a person. Like How frekan dare you.

The nonchalant attitude the rest of you have about encouraging OP to kick her baby daddy to the curb before her baby even enters the world is equally insane

Agree. They think somehow OP will be a winner in this zero sum game. But- these posters don't have to live her upcoming life.
Ha! What does she win? Let's see:
1. She leaves a guy who loves her. And it's clear he does. Mistakes were made, but he loves her and the baby.

2. She will have a baby that she will have only partial custody of.

3. Boyfriend will immediately move on and there will be step mom, there absolutely will, right in the inception of this baby's life, so, yes, she is Mom, too.

4. OP will have zero, and I mean ZERO control over what happens when she drops off this 3 month old, 3 years old, 10 year old, 16 year old kid to him. All medical decisions will have to go through him. School, church, even scouts.

5. OP will not necessarily move on. She's a single mom now of an infant, toddler, kid, teenager. And we all know how that plays out on Tinder. Plus, her backstory will be that she left him as he had herpes- she will likely test positive at some point, because that will always be a possibility- added bonus points on the dating scene there, right?

6. She will be in court for the next 22 years working out child support , custody, college, because raising a kid in her own will be more $$ than she ever thought it will be. And she will always have to deal with Mom # 2- you know, the one who didn't care about the herpes at all, and married the Dad because he wants to have a family. Millions of people have herpes. Millions.
Meanwhile, she will start off broke because getting a lawyer over this will be very expensive...and they aren't even married. She thinks she will have some legal upper hand with money or custody over this herpes disclosure, and I am here to say, no- she will have nothing. It's not a deal breaker in court at all.

7. Boyfriend will have more kids with new wife, and that will be baby's family. Those kids will be siblings.
8. She will never be able to move away from the area, and Daddy (and step mom) will have requests and opinions that she doesn't like ..everything from school to camp to sports to clothes, vacations, friends. All out of OP's control now. But most woman assume they are in control, and are shocked to find out how quickly they have no control over their kid really. It'a staggeringly depressing and really frightening, so let's add the declining mental state to her list of developments.

She will have not won anything. She's angry now, but let's assume after this revelation she will have counseling and make an appropriate decision.


Don't dive into the gene pool without a life guard, people.

How can you say he loves her when he lied to her, infected her with an incurable disease and only came clean 4 years later? You're actually so insane for suggesting this is NBD and OP should stick by her lying diseased untrustworthy baby daddy.

All the rest of your reasons are just crap. Don't leave the liar who infected you with an incurable disease because... he may have more children? Jesus Christ your bar is beyond hell. I seriously hope that women never take this kind of advice. There is zero, I repeat ZERO reason that OP is better off staying with a lying AH who sexually assaulted her. What a shit take.

Because you are the one jumping to conclusions here about lying. Even with OP's bias here, and she of course has one- it's plain as day that he did not realize he had herpes 4 years ago. He actually said that. He did not understand it at all, like a lot of people here...just read this whole thread- this isn't a clear cut issue. He did realize it 4 months ago when something happened to make him check, and that would be the baby coming. So many people think they have it only when it shows up. This guy went through a very tough time trying to figure out what to say or do. No, he's not getting a pat in the back, but because he had no symptoms he could have NEVER said anything, ever. He realized now this could possibly affect the baby. It was clear by OP's post that he was in deep turmoil. He put the baby first.

He really didn't get it, that was clear. He isn't a liar, he isn't an abuser, he isn't a narcissist. He's dumb about herpes, so is OP. You are the one filling in a context that isn't there.

Both here are really naive, actually, and OP doesn't get to hold a torch of responsibility up because she is also late to the party. She never tested and didn't ask him to. Don't bring your personal issues into something that doesn't fit.

This thread should end. OP and boyfriend need counseling, and a doctor. That's all.

“So I tested positive for herpes 4 yrs ago but thought NAH can’t be me”
“I tested positive for herpes 1 year ago but thought NAH can’t be me”

Be so fu##ing for real right now.
Idk if he’s a narc, but he’s sure as fu## an abuser and a liar. 1000x he is. You are an abuse enabler by trying to coerce op to stay with her abuser. Disgusting.

And you are immature with no reading comprehension. Lol

Where's the issue in reading comprehension? He got tested years ago, was positive. Got tested more recently, positive again. He knew he had it and didn't tell op. He's a liar and potentially gave her an STD. Not sure how many you have that it's NBD, maybe youre a collector of sorts. Most of us aren't.

Anyone who dealt with medical professionals on this one would tell that doctors play herpes down a lot. He could have not placed any significant value in his positive tests until OP got pregnant. And then the doctors advised him it could affect the baby or he read online himself. So at that point he felt that it would be important to tell OP

Medical disclosures and their boundaries are grey area. I wouldn’t necessarily consider his decision making unethical unless OP clearly stated to him prior to having sex that heroes status was important to her

They play it down because of the mental health aspects of it.

They play it down because it is just a rash and you can take good meds for it. It is a nothing burger medically.

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Anonymous wrote:The nonchalant attitude so many of you have towards a highly infectious permanent condition that requires some folks to take daily medication to manage is kind of insane.

I am truly confused how some of you seem to think this is just no big deal at all. If someone gave me genital herpes because they decided their previous (not 1 but 2) positive results were unimportant would be infuriating to me. There is no way I would stay with such a person. Like How frekan dare you.

The nonchalant attitude the rest of you have about encouraging OP to kick her baby daddy to the curb before her baby even enters the world is equally insane

Agree. They think somehow OP will be a winner in this zero sum game. But- these posters don't have to live her upcoming life.
Ha! What does she win? Let's see:
1. She leaves a guy who loves her. And it's clear he does. Mistakes were made, but he loves her and the baby.

2. She will have a baby that she will have only partial custody of.

3. Boyfriend will immediately move on and there will be step mom, there absolutely will, right in the inception of this baby's life, so, yes, she is Mom, too.

4. OP will have zero, and I mean ZERO control over what happens when she drops off this 3 month old, 3 years old, 10 year old, 16 year old kid to him. All medical decisions will have to go through him. School, church, even scouts.

5. OP will not necessarily move on. She's a single mom now of an infant, toddler, kid, teenager. And we all know how that plays out on Tinder. Plus, her backstory will be that she left him as he had herpes- she will likely test positive at some point, because that will always be a possibility- added bonus points on the dating scene there, right?

6. She will be in court for the next 22 years working out child support , custody, college, because raising a kid in her own will be more $$ than she ever thought it will be. And she will always have to deal with Mom # 2- you know, the one who didn't care about the herpes at all, and married the Dad because he wants to have a family. Millions of people have herpes. Millions.
Meanwhile, she will start off broke because getting a lawyer over this will be very expensive...and they aren't even married. She thinks she will have some legal upper hand with money or custody over this herpes disclosure, and I am here to say, no- she will have nothing. It's not a deal breaker in court at all.

7. Boyfriend will have more kids with new wife, and that will be baby's family. Those kids will be siblings.
8. She will never be able to move away from the area, and Daddy (and step mom) will have requests and opinions that she doesn't like ..everything from school to camp to sports to clothes, vacations, friends. All out of OP's control now. But most woman assume they are in control, and are shocked to find out how quickly they have no control over their kid really. It'a staggeringly depressing and really frightening, so let's add the declining mental state to her list of developments.

She will have not won anything. She's angry now, but let's assume after this revelation she will have counseling and make an appropriate decision.


Don't dive into the gene pool without a life guard, people.

How can you say he loves her when he lied to her, infected her with an incurable disease and only came clean 4 years later? You're actually so insane for suggesting this is NBD and OP should stick by her lying diseased untrustworthy baby daddy.

All the rest of your reasons are just crap. Don't leave the liar who infected you with an incurable disease because... he may have more children? Jesus Christ your bar is beyond hell. I seriously hope that women never take this kind of advice. There is zero, I repeat ZERO reason that OP is better off staying with a lying AH who sexually assaulted her. What a shit take.

Because you are the one jumping to conclusions here about lying. Even with OP's bias here, and she of course has one- it's plain as day that he did not realize he had herpes 4 years ago. He actually said that. He did not understand it at all, like a lot of people here...just read this whole thread- this isn't a clear cut issue. He did realize it 4 months ago when something happened to make him check, and that would be the baby coming. So many people think they have it only when it shows up. This guy went through a very tough time trying to figure out what to say or do. No, he's not getting a pat in the back, but because he had no symptoms he could have NEVER said anything, ever. He realized now this could possibly affect the baby. It was clear by OP's post that he was in deep turmoil. He put the baby first.

He really didn't get it, that was clear. He isn't a liar, he isn't an abuser, he isn't a narcissist. He's dumb about herpes, so is OP. You are the one filling in a context that isn't there.

Both here are really naive, actually, and OP doesn't get to hold a torch of responsibility up because she is also late to the party. She never tested and didn't ask him to. Don't bring your personal issues into something that doesn't fit.

This thread should end. OP and boyfriend need counseling, and a doctor. That's all.

“So I tested positive for herpes 4 yrs ago but thought NAH can’t be me”
“I tested positive for herpes 1 year ago but thought NAH can’t be me”

Be so fu##ing for real right now.
Idk if he’s a narc, but he’s sure as fu## an abuser and a liar. 1000x he is. You are an abuse enabler by trying to coerce op to stay with her abuser. Disgusting.

And you are immature with no reading comprehension. Lol

Where's the issue in reading comprehension? He got tested years ago, was positive. Got tested more recently, positive again. He knew he had it and didn't tell op. He's a liar and potentially gave her an STD. Not sure how many you have that it's NBD, maybe youre a collector of sorts. Most of us aren't.

Anyone who dealt with medical professionals on this one would tell that doctors play herpes down a lot. He could have not placed any significant value in his positive tests until OP got pregnant. And then the doctors advised him it could affect the baby or he read online himself. So at that point he felt that it would be important to tell OP

Medical disclosures and their boundaries are grey area. I wouldn’t necessarily consider his decision making unethical unless OP clearly stated to him prior to having sex that heroes status was important to her

They play it down because of the mental health aspects of it.

They play it down because it is just a rash and you can take good meds for it. It is a nothing burger medically.

What are the side effects of the meds? Who wants to be dependent on meds? You can take good meds for hiv too. Herpes causes dementia just like a bunch of other STDs like HIV and syphilis. It’s ok not to want herpes.

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Anonymous wrote:The nonchalant attitude so many of you have towards a highly infectious permanent condition that requires some folks to take daily medication to manage is kind of insane.

I am truly confused how some of you seem to think this is just no big deal at all. If someone gave me genital herpes because they decided their previous (not 1 but 2) positive results were unimportant would be infuriating to me. There is no way I would stay with such a person. Like How frekan dare you.

The nonchalant attitude the rest of you have about encouraging OP to kick her baby daddy to the curb before her baby even enters the world is equally insane

Agree. They think somehow OP will be a winner in this zero sum game. But- these posters don't have to live her upcoming life.
Ha! What does she win? Let's see:
1. She leaves a guy who loves her. And it's clear he does. Mistakes were made, but he loves her and the baby.

2. She will have a baby that she will have only partial custody of.

3. Boyfriend will immediately move on and there will be step mom, there absolutely will, right in the inception of this baby's life, so, yes, she is Mom, too.

4. OP will have zero, and I mean ZERO control over what happens when she drops off this 3 month old, 3 years old, 10 year old, 16 year old kid to him. All medical decisions will have to go through him. School, church, even scouts.

5. OP will not necessarily move on. She's a single mom now of an infant, toddler, kid, teenager. And we all know how that plays out on Tinder. Plus, her backstory will be that she left him as he had herpes- she will likely test positive at some point, because that will always be a possibility- added bonus points on the dating scene there, right?

6. She will be in court for the next 22 years working out child support , custody, college, because raising a kid in her own will be more $$ than she ever thought it will be. And she will always have to deal with Mom # 2- you know, the one who didn't care about the herpes at all, and married the Dad because he wants to have a family. Millions of people have herpes. Millions.
Meanwhile, she will start off broke because getting a lawyer over this will be very expensive...and they aren't even married. She thinks she will have some legal upper hand with money or custody over this herpes disclosure, and I am here to say, no- she will have nothing. It's not a deal breaker in court at all.

7. Boyfriend will have more kids with new wife, and that will be baby's family. Those kids will be siblings.
8. She will never be able to move away from the area, and Daddy (and step mom) will have requests and opinions that she doesn't like ..everything from school to camp to sports to clothes, vacations, friends. All out of OP's control now. But most woman assume they are in control, and are shocked to find out how quickly they have no control over their kid really. It'a staggeringly depressing and really frightening, so let's add the declining mental state to her list of developments.

She will have not won anything. She's angry now, but let's assume after this revelation she will have counseling and make an appropriate decision.


Don't dive into the gene pool without a life guard, people.

How can you say he loves her when he lied to her, infected her with an incurable disease and only came clean 4 years later? You're actually so insane for suggesting this is NBD and OP should stick by her lying diseased untrustworthy baby daddy.

All the rest of your reasons are just crap. Don't leave the liar who infected you with an incurable disease because... he may have more children? Jesus Christ your bar is beyond hell. I seriously hope that women never take this kind of advice. There is zero, I repeat ZERO reason that OP is better off staying with a lying AH who sexually assaulted her. What a shit take.

Because you are the one jumping to conclusions here about lying. Even with OP's bias here, and she of course has one- it's plain as day that he did not realize he had herpes 4 years ago. He actually said that. He did not understand it at all, like a lot of people here...just read this whole thread- this isn't a clear cut issue. He did realize it 4 months ago when something happened to make him check, and that would be the baby coming. So many people think they have it only when it shows up. This guy went through a very tough time trying to figure out what to say or do. No, he's not getting a pat in the back, but because he had no symptoms he could have NEVER said anything, ever. He realized now this could possibly affect the baby. It was clear by OP's post that he was in deep turmoil. He put the baby first.

He really didn't get it, that was clear. He isn't a liar, he isn't an abuser, he isn't a narcissist. He's dumb about herpes, so is OP. You are the one filling in a context that isn't there.

Both here are really naive, actually, and OP doesn't get to hold a torch of responsibility up because she is also late to the party. She never tested and didn't ask him to. Don't bring your personal issues into something that doesn't fit.

This thread should end. OP and boyfriend need counseling, and a doctor. That's all.

“So I tested positive for herpes 4 yrs ago but thought NAH can’t be me”
“I tested positive for herpes 1 year ago but thought NAH can’t be me”

Be so fu##ing for real right now.
Idk if he’s a narc, but he’s sure as fu## an abuser and a liar. 1000x he is. You are an abuse enabler by trying to coerce op to stay with her abuser. Disgusting.

And you are immature with no reading comprehension. Lol

Where's the issue in reading comprehension? He got tested years ago, was positive. Got tested more recently, positive again. He knew he had it and didn't tell op. He's a liar and potentially gave her an STD. Not sure how many you have that it's NBD, maybe youre a collector of sorts. Most of us aren't.

Anyone who dealt with medical professionals on this one would tell that doctors play herpes down a lot. He could have not placed any significant value in his positive tests until OP got pregnant. And then the doctors advised him it could affect the baby or he read online himself. So at that point he felt that it would be important to tell OP

Medical disclosures and their boundaries are grey area. I wouldn’t necessarily consider his decision making unethical unless OP clearly stated to him prior to having sex that heroes status was important to her

They play it down because of the mental health aspects of it.

They play it down because it is just a rash and you can take good meds for it. It is a nothing burger medically.

So is shingles, and I don't want that either! Go away rape apologist. This is not the space for you to victimize women.

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Anonymous wrote:The nonchalant attitude so many of you have towards a highly infectious permanent condition that requires some folks to take daily medication to manage is kind of insane.

I am truly confused how some of you seem to think this is just no big deal at all. If someone gave me genital herpes because they decided their previous (not 1 but 2) positive results were unimportant would be infuriating to me. There is no way I would stay with such a person. Like How frekan dare you.

The nonchalant attitude the rest of you have about encouraging OP to kick her baby daddy to the curb before her baby even enters the world is equally insane

Agree. They think somehow OP will be a winner in this zero sum game. But- these posters don't have to live her upcoming life.
Ha! What does she win? Let's see:
1. She leaves a guy who loves her. And it's clear he does. Mistakes were made, but he loves her and the baby.

2. She will have a baby that she will have only partial custody of.

3. Boyfriend will immediately move on and there will be step mom, there absolutely will, right in the inception of this baby's life, so, yes, she is Mom, too.

4. OP will have zero, and I mean ZERO control over what happens when she drops off this 3 month old, 3 years old, 10 year old, 16 year old kid to him. All medical decisions will have to go through him. School, church, even scouts.

5. OP will not necessarily move on. She's a single mom now of an infant, toddler, kid, teenager. And we all know how that plays out on Tinder. Plus, her backstory will be that she left him as he had herpes- she will likely test positive at some point, because that will always be a possibility- added bonus points on the dating scene there, right?

6. She will be in court for the next 22 years working out child support , custody, college, because raising a kid in her own will be more $$ than she ever thought it will be. And she will always have to deal with Mom # 2- you know, the one who didn't care about the herpes at all, and married the Dad because he wants to have a family. Millions of people have herpes. Millions.
Meanwhile, she will start off broke because getting a lawyer over this will be very expensive...and they aren't even married. She thinks she will have some legal upper hand with money or custody over this herpes disclosure, and I am here to say, no- she will have nothing. It's not a deal breaker in court at all.

7. Boyfriend will have more kids with new wife, and that will be baby's family. Those kids will be siblings.
8. She will never be able to move away from the area, and Daddy (and step mom) will have requests and opinions that she doesn't like ..everything from school to camp to sports to clothes, vacations, friends. All out of OP's control now. But most woman assume they are in control, and are shocked to find out how quickly they have no control over their kid really. It'a staggeringly depressing and really frightening, so let's add the declining mental state to her list of developments.

She will have not won anything. She's angry now, but let's assume after this revelation she will have counseling and make an appropriate decision.


Don't dive into the gene pool without a life guard, people.

How can you say he loves her when he lied to her, infected her with an incurable disease and only came clean 4 years later? You're actually so insane for suggesting this is NBD and OP should stick by her lying diseased untrustworthy baby daddy.

All the rest of your reasons are just crap. Don't leave the liar who infected you with an incurable disease because... he may have more children? Jesus Christ your bar is beyond hell. I seriously hope that women never take this kind of advice. There is zero, I repeat ZERO reason that OP is better off staying with a lying AH who sexually assaulted her. What a shit take.

Because you are the one jumping to conclusions here about lying. Even with OP's bias here, and she of course has one- it's plain as day that he did not realize he had herpes 4 years ago. He actually said that. He did not understand it at all, like a lot of people here...just read this whole thread- this isn't a clear cut issue. He did realize it 4 months ago when something happened to make him check, and that would be the baby coming. So many people think they have it only when it shows up. This guy went through a very tough time trying to figure out what to say or do. No, he's not getting a pat in the back, but because he had no symptoms he could have NEVER said anything, ever. He realized now this could possibly affect the baby. It was clear by OP's post that he was in deep turmoil. He put the baby first.

He really didn't get it, that was clear. He isn't a liar, he isn't an abuser, he isn't a narcissist. He's dumb about herpes, so is OP. You are the one filling in a context that isn't there.

Both here are really naive, actually, and OP doesn't get to hold a torch of responsibility up because she is also late to the party. She never tested and didn't ask him to. Don't bring your personal issues into something that doesn't fit.

This thread should end. OP and boyfriend need counseling, and a doctor. That's all.

“So I tested positive for herpes 4 yrs ago but thought NAH can’t be me”
“I tested positive for herpes 1 year ago but thought NAH can’t be me”

Be so fu##ing for real right now.
Idk if he’s a narc, but he’s sure as fu## an abuser and a liar. 1000x he is. You are an abuse enabler by trying to coerce op to stay with her abuser. Disgusting.

And you are immature with no reading comprehension. Lol

Where's the issue in reading comprehension? He got tested years ago, was positive. Got tested more recently, positive again. He knew he had it and didn't tell op. He's a liar and potentially gave her an STD. Not sure how many you have that it's NBD, maybe youre a collector of sorts. Most of us aren't.

Anyone who dealt with medical professionals on this one would tell that doctors play herpes down a lot. He could have not placed any significant value in his positive tests until OP got pregnant. And then the doctors advised him it could affect the baby or he read online himself. So at that point he felt that it would be important to tell OP

Medical disclosures and their boundaries are grey area. I wouldn’t necessarily consider his decision making unethical unless OP clearly stated to him prior to having sex that heroes status was important to her

They play it down because of the mental health aspects of it.

They play it down because it is just a rash and you can take good meds for it. It is a nothing burger medically.

My friend in college contracted genital herpes and the pain was so excruciating she ended up in the ER. I wouldn’t call that a “nothing burger”

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Anonymous wrote:The nonchalant attitude so many of you have towards a highly infectious permanent condition that requires some folks to take daily medication to manage is kind of insane.

I am truly confused how some of you seem to think this is just no big deal at all. If someone gave me genital herpes because they decided their previous (not 1 but 2) positive results were unimportant would be infuriating to me. There is no way I would stay with such a person. Like How frekan dare you.

The nonchalant attitude the rest of you have about encouraging OP to kick her baby daddy to the curb before her baby even enters the world is equally insane

Agree. They think somehow OP will be a winner in this zero sum game. But- these posters don't have to live her upcoming life.
Ha! What does she win? Let's see:
1. She leaves a guy who loves her. And it's clear he does. Mistakes were made, but he loves her and the baby.

2. She will have a baby that she will have only partial custody of.

3. Boyfriend will immediately move on and there will be step mom, there absolutely will, right in the inception of this baby's life, so, yes, she is Mom, too.

4. OP will have zero, and I mean ZERO control over what happens when she drops off this 3 month old, 3 years old, 10 year old, 16 year old kid to him. All medical decisions will have to go through him. School, church, even scouts.

5. OP will not necessarily move on. She's a single mom now of an infant, toddler, kid, teenager. And we all know how that plays out on Tinder. Plus, her backstory will be that she left him as he had herpes- she will likely test positive at some point, because that will always be a possibility- added bonus points on the dating scene there, right?

6. She will be in court for the next 22 years working out child support , custody, college, because raising a kid in her own will be more $$ than she ever thought it will be. And she will always have to deal with Mom # 2- you know, the one who didn't care about the herpes at all, and married the Dad because he wants to have a family. Millions of people have herpes. Millions.
Meanwhile, she will start off broke because getting a lawyer over this will be very expensive...and they aren't even married. She thinks she will have some legal upper hand with money or custody over this herpes disclosure, and I am here to say, no- she will have nothing. It's not a deal breaker in court at all.

7. Boyfriend will have more kids with new wife, and that will be baby's family. Those kids will be siblings.
8. She will never be able to move away from the area, and Daddy (and step mom) will have requests and opinions that she doesn't like ..everything from school to camp to sports to clothes, vacations, friends. All out of OP's control now. But most woman assume they are in control, and are shocked to find out how quickly they have no control over their kid really. It'a staggeringly depressing and really frightening, so let's add the declining mental state to her list of developments.

She will have not won anything. She's angry now, but let's assume after this revelation she will have counseling and make an appropriate decision.


Don't dive into the gene pool without a life guard, people.

How can you say he loves her when he lied to her, infected her with an incurable disease and only came clean 4 years later? You're actually so insane for suggesting this is NBD and OP should stick by her lying diseased untrustworthy baby daddy.

All the rest of your reasons are just crap. Don't leave the liar who infected you with an incurable disease because... he may have more children? Jesus Christ your bar is beyond hell. I seriously hope that women never take this kind of advice. There is zero, I repeat ZERO reason that OP is better off staying with a lying AH who sexually assaulted her. What a shit take.

Because you are the one jumping to conclusions here about lying. Even with OP's bias here, and she of course has one- it's plain as day that he did not realize he had herpes 4 years ago. He actually said that. He did not understand it at all, like a lot of people here...just read this whole thread- this isn't a clear cut issue. He did realize it 4 months ago when something happened to make him check, and that would be the baby coming. So many people think they have it only when it shows up. This guy went through a very tough time trying to figure out what to say or do. No, he's not getting a pat in the back, but because he had no symptoms he could have NEVER said anything, ever. He realized now this could possibly affect the baby. It was clear by OP's post that he was in deep turmoil. He put the baby first.

He really didn't get it, that was clear. He isn't a liar, he isn't an abuser, he isn't a narcissist. He's dumb about herpes, so is OP. You are the one filling in a context that isn't there.

Both here are really naive, actually, and OP doesn't get to hold a torch of responsibility up because she is also late to the party. She never tested and didn't ask him to. Don't bring your personal issues into something that doesn't fit.

This thread should end. OP and boyfriend need counseling, and a doctor. That's all.

“So I tested positive for herpes 4 yrs ago but thought NAH can’t be me”
“I tested positive for herpes 1 year ago but thought NAH can’t be me”

Be so fu##ing for real right now.
Idk if he’s a narc, but he’s sure as fu## an abuser and a liar. 1000x he is. You are an abuse enabler by trying to coerce op to stay with her abuser. Disgusting.

And you are immature with no reading comprehension. Lol

Where's the issue in reading comprehension? He got tested years ago, was positive. Got tested more recently, positive again. He knew he had it and didn't tell op. He's a liar and potentially gave her an STD. Not sure how many you have that it's NBD, maybe youre a collector of sorts. Most of us aren't.

Anyone who dealt with medical professionals on this one would tell that doctors play herpes down a lot. He could have not placed any significant value in his positive tests until OP got pregnant. And then the doctors advised him it could affect the baby or he read online himself. So at that point he felt that it would be important to tell OP

Medical disclosures and their boundaries are grey area. I wouldn’t necessarily consider his decision making unethical unless OP clearly stated to him prior to having sex that heroes status was important to her

They play it down because of the mental health aspects of it.

They play it down because it is just a rash and you can take good meds for it. It is a nothing burger medically.

What are the side effects of the meds? Who wants to be dependent on meds? You can take good meds for hiv too. Herpes causes dementia just like a bunch of other STDs like HIV and syphilis. It’s ok not to want herpes.

Sure it’s OK not to want herpes. That doesn’t change the fact that doctors don’t see it as serious (in the range of things you can have) and doesn’t justify extreme reactions (like leaving your husband because he has cold sores!)

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Anonymous wrote:The nonchalant attitude so many of you have towards a highly infectious permanent condition that requires some folks to take daily medication to manage is kind of insane.

I am truly confused how some of you seem to think this is just no big deal at all. If someone gave me genital herpes because they decided their previous (not 1 but 2) positive results were unimportant would be infuriating to me. There is no way I would stay with such a person. Like How frekan dare you.

The nonchalant attitude the rest of you have about encouraging OP to kick her baby daddy to the curb before her baby even enters the world is equally insane

Agree. They think somehow OP will be a winner in this zero sum game. But- these posters don't have to live her upcoming life.
Ha! What does she win? Let's see:
1. She leaves a guy who loves her. And it's clear he does. Mistakes were made, but he loves her and the baby.

2. She will have a baby that she will have only partial custody of.

3. Boyfriend will immediately move on and there will be step mom, there absolutely will, right in the inception of this baby's life, so, yes, she is Mom, too.

4. OP will have zero, and I mean ZERO control over what happens when she drops off this 3 month old, 3 years old, 10 year old, 16 year old kid to him. All medical decisions will have to go through him. School, church, even scouts.

5. OP will not necessarily move on. She's a single mom now of an infant, toddler, kid, teenager. And we all know how that plays out on Tinder. Plus, her backstory will be that she left him as he had herpes- she will likely test positive at some point, because that will always be a possibility- added bonus points on the dating scene there, right?

6. She will be in court for the next 22 years working out child support , custody, college, because raising a kid in her own will be more $$ than she ever thought it will be. And she will always have to deal with Mom # 2- you know, the one who didn't care about the herpes at all, and married the Dad because he wants to have a family. Millions of people have herpes. Millions.
Meanwhile, she will start off broke because getting a lawyer over this will be very expensive...and they aren't even married. She thinks she will have some legal upper hand with money or custody over this herpes disclosure, and I am here to say, no- she will have nothing. It's not a deal breaker in court at all.

7. Boyfriend will have more kids with new wife, and that will be baby's family. Those kids will be siblings.
8. She will never be able to move away from the area, and Daddy (and step mom) will have requests and opinions that she doesn't like ..everything from school to camp to sports to clothes, vacations, friends. All out of OP's control now. But most woman assume they are in control, and are shocked to find out how quickly they have no control over their kid really. It'a staggeringly depressing and really frightening, so let's add the declining mental state to her list of developments.

She will have not won anything. She's angry now, but let's assume after this revelation she will have counseling and make an appropriate decision.


Don't dive into the gene pool without a life guard, people.

How can you say he loves her when he lied to her, infected her with an incurable disease and only came clean 4 years later? You're actually so insane for suggesting this is NBD and OP should stick by her lying diseased untrustworthy baby daddy.

All the rest of your reasons are just crap. Don't leave the liar who infected you with an incurable disease because... he may have more children? Jesus Christ your bar is beyond hell. I seriously hope that women never take this kind of advice. There is zero, I repeat ZERO reason that OP is better off staying with a lying AH who sexually assaulted her. What a shit take.

Because you are the one jumping to conclusions here about lying. Even with OP's bias here, and she of course has one- it's plain as day that he did not realize he had herpes 4 years ago. He actually said that. He did not understand it at all, like a lot of people here...just read this whole thread- this isn't a clear cut issue. He did realize it 4 months ago when something happened to make him check, and that would be the baby coming. So many people think they have it only when it shows up. This guy went through a very tough time trying to figure out what to say or do. No, he's not getting a pat in the back, but because he had no symptoms he could have NEVER said anything, ever. He realized now this could possibly affect the baby. It was clear by OP's post that he was in deep turmoil. He put the baby first.

He really didn't get it, that was clear. He isn't a liar, he isn't an abuser, he isn't a narcissist. He's dumb about herpes, so is OP. You are the one filling in a context that isn't there.

Both here are really naive, actually, and OP doesn't get to hold a torch of responsibility up because she is also late to the party. She never tested and didn't ask him to. Don't bring your personal issues into something that doesn't fit.

This thread should end. OP and boyfriend need counseling, and a doctor. That's all.

“So I tested positive for herpes 4 yrs ago but thought NAH can’t be me”
“I tested positive for herpes 1 year ago but thought NAH can’t be me”

Be so fu##ing for real right now.
Idk if he’s a narc, but he’s sure as fu## an abuser and a liar. 1000x he is. You are an abuse enabler by trying to coerce op to stay with her abuser. Disgusting.

And you are immature with no reading comprehension. Lol

Where's the issue in reading comprehension? He got tested years ago, was positive. Got tested more recently, positive again. He knew he had it and didn't tell op. He's a liar and potentially gave her an STD. Not sure how many you have that it's NBD, maybe youre a collector of sorts. Most of us aren't.

Anyone who dealt with medical professionals on this one would tell that doctors play herpes down a lot. He could have not placed any significant value in his positive tests until OP got pregnant. And then the doctors advised him it could affect the baby or he read online himself. So at that point he felt that it would be important to tell OP

Medical disclosures and their boundaries are grey area. I wouldn’t necessarily consider his decision making unethical unless OP clearly stated to him prior to having sex that heroes status was important to her

They play it down because of the mental health aspects of it.

They play it down because it is just a rash and you can take good meds for it. It is a nothing burger medically.

So is shingles, and I don't want that either! Go away rape apologist. This is not the space for you to victimize women.

You are insane.

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Anonymous wrote:The nonchalant attitude so many of you have towards a highly infectious permanent condition that requires some folks to take daily medication to manage is kind of insane.

I am truly confused how some of you seem to think this is just no big deal at all. If someone gave me genital herpes because they decided their previous (not 1 but 2) positive results were unimportant would be infuriating to me. There is no way I would stay with such a person. Like How frekan dare you.

The nonchalant attitude the rest of you have about encouraging OP to kick her baby daddy to the curb before her baby even enters the world is equally insane

Agree. They think somehow OP will be a winner in this zero sum game. But- these posters don't have to live her upcoming life.
Ha! What does she win? Let's see:
1. She leaves a guy who loves her. And it's clear he does. Mistakes were made, but he loves her and the baby.

2. She will have a baby that she will have only partial custody of.

3. Boyfriend will immediately move on and there will be step mom, there absolutely will, right in the inception of this baby's life, so, yes, she is Mom, too.

4. OP will have zero, and I mean ZERO control over what happens when she drops off this 3 month old, 3 years old, 10 year old, 16 year old kid to him. All medical decisions will have to go through him. School, church, even scouts.

5. OP will not necessarily move on. She's a single mom now of an infant, toddler, kid, teenager. And we all know how that plays out on Tinder. Plus, her backstory will be that she left him as he had herpes- she will likely test positive at some point, because that will always be a possibility- added bonus points on the dating scene there, right?

6. She will be in court for the next 22 years working out child support , custody, college, because raising a kid in her own will be more $$ than she ever thought it will be. And she will always have to deal with Mom # 2- you know, the one who didn't care about the herpes at all, and married the Dad because he wants to have a family. Millions of people have herpes. Millions.
Meanwhile, she will start off broke because getting a lawyer over this will be very expensive...and they aren't even married. She thinks she will have some legal upper hand with money or custody over this herpes disclosure, and I am here to say, no- she will have nothing. It's not a deal breaker in court at all.

7. Boyfriend will have more kids with new wife, and that will be baby's family. Those kids will be siblings.
8. She will never be able to move away from the area, and Daddy (and step mom) will have requests and opinions that she doesn't like ..everything from school to camp to sports to clothes, vacations, friends. All out of OP's control now. But most woman assume they are in control, and are shocked to find out how quickly they have no control over their kid really. It'a staggeringly depressing and really frightening, so let's add the declining mental state to her list of developments.

She will have not won anything. She's angry now, but let's assume after this revelation she will have counseling and make an appropriate decision.


Don't dive into the gene pool without a life guard, people.

How can you say he loves her when he lied to her, infected her with an incurable disease and only came clean 4 years later? You're actually so insane for suggesting this is NBD and OP should stick by her lying diseased untrustworthy baby daddy.

All the rest of your reasons are just crap. Don't leave the liar who infected you with an incurable disease because... he may have more children? Jesus Christ your bar is beyond hell. I seriously hope that women never take this kind of advice. There is zero, I repeat ZERO reason that OP is better off staying with a lying AH who sexually assaulted her. What a shit take.

Because you are the one jumping to conclusions here about lying. Even with OP's bias here, and she of course has one- it's plain as day that he did not realize he had herpes 4 years ago. He actually said that. He did not understand it at all, like a lot of people here...just read this whole thread- this isn't a clear cut issue. He did realize it 4 months ago when something happened to make him check, and that would be the baby coming. So many people think they have it only when it shows up. This guy went through a very tough time trying to figure out what to say or do. No, he's not getting a pat in the back, but because he had no symptoms he could have NEVER said anything, ever. He realized now this could possibly affect the baby. It was clear by OP's post that he was in deep turmoil. He put the baby first.

He really didn't get it, that was clear. He isn't a liar, he isn't an abuser, he isn't a narcissist. He's dumb about herpes, so is OP. You are the one filling in a context that isn't there.

Both here are really naive, actually, and OP doesn't get to hold a torch of responsibility up because she is also late to the party. She never tested and didn't ask him to. Don't bring your personal issues into something that doesn't fit.

This thread should end. OP and boyfriend need counseling, and a doctor. That's all.

“So I tested positive for herpes 4 yrs ago but thought NAH can’t be me”
“I tested positive for herpes 1 year ago but thought NAH can’t be me”

Be so fu##ing for real right now.
Idk if he’s a narc, but he’s sure as fu## an abuser and a liar. 1000x he is. You are an abuse enabler by trying to coerce op to stay with her abuser. Disgusting.

And you are immature with no reading comprehension. Lol

Where's the issue in reading comprehension? He got tested years ago, was positive. Got tested more recently, positive again. He knew he had it and didn't tell op. He's a liar and potentially gave her an STD. Not sure how many you have that it's NBD, maybe youre a collector of sorts. Most of us aren't.

Anyone who dealt with medical professionals on this one would tell that doctors play herpes down a lot. He could have not placed any significant value in his positive tests until OP got pregnant. And then the doctors advised him it could affect the baby or he read online himself. So at that point he felt that it would be important to tell OP

Medical disclosures and their boundaries are grey area. I wouldn’t necessarily consider his decision making unethical unless OP clearly stated to him prior to having sex that heroes status was important to her

They play it down because of the mental health aspects of it.

They play it down because it is just a rash and you can take good meds for it. It is a nothing burger medically.

So is shingles, and I don't want that either! Go away rape apologist. This is not the space for you to victimize women.

You are insane.

Says the person defending sexual assault

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Anonymous wrote:The nonchalant attitude so many of you have towards a highly infectious permanent condition that requires some folks to take daily medication to manage is kind of insane.

I am truly confused how some of you seem to think this is just no big deal at all. If someone gave me genital herpes because they decided their previous (not 1 but 2) positive results were unimportant would be infuriating to me. There is no way I would stay with such a person. Like How frekan dare you.

The nonchalant attitude the rest of you have about encouraging OP to kick her baby daddy to the curb before her baby even enters the world is equally insane

Agree. They think somehow OP will be a winner in this zero sum game. But- these posters don't have to live her upcoming life.
Ha! What does she win? Let's see:
1. She leaves a guy who loves her. And it's clear he does. Mistakes were made, but he loves her and the baby.

2. She will have a baby that she will have only partial custody of.

3. Boyfriend will immediately move on and there will be step mom, there absolutely will, right in the inception of this baby's life, so, yes, she is Mom, too.

4. OP will have zero, and I mean ZERO control over what happens when she drops off this 3 month old, 3 years old, 10 year old, 16 year old kid to him. All medical decisions will have to go through him. School, church, even scouts.

5. OP will not necessarily move on. She's a single mom now of an infant, toddler, kid, teenager. And we all know how that plays out on Tinder. Plus, her backstory will be that she left him as he had herpes- she will likely test positive at some point, because that will always be a possibility- added bonus points on the dating scene there, right?

6. She will be in court for the next 22 years working out child support , custody, college, because raising a kid in her own will be more $$ than she ever thought it will be. And she will always have to deal with Mom # 2- you know, the one who didn't care about the herpes at all, and married the Dad because he wants to have a family. Millions of people have herpes. Millions.
Meanwhile, she will start off broke because getting a lawyer over this will be very expensive...and they aren't even married. She thinks she will have some legal upper hand with money or custody over this herpes disclosure, and I am here to say, no- she will have nothing. It's not a deal breaker in court at all.

7. Boyfriend will have more kids with new wife, and that will be baby's family. Those kids will be siblings.
8. She will never be able to move away from the area, and Daddy (and step mom) will have requests and opinions that she doesn't like ..everything from school to camp to sports to clothes, vacations, friends. All out of OP's control now. But most woman assume they are in control, and are shocked to find out how quickly they have no control over their kid really. It'a staggeringly depressing and really frightening, so let's add the declining mental state to her list of developments.

She will have not won anything. She's angry now, but let's assume after this revelation she will have counseling and make an appropriate decision.


Don't dive into the gene pool without a life guard, people.

How can you say he loves her when he lied to her, infected her with an incurable disease and only came clean 4 years later? You're actually so insane for suggesting this is NBD and OP should stick by her lying diseased untrustworthy baby daddy.

All the rest of your reasons are just crap. Don't leave the liar who infected you with an incurable disease because... he may have more children? Jesus Christ your bar is beyond hell. I seriously hope that women never take this kind of advice. There is zero, I repeat ZERO reason that OP is better off staying with a lying AH who sexually assaulted her. What a shit take.

Because you are the one jumping to conclusions here about lying. Even with OP's bias here, and she of course has one- it's plain as day that he did not realize he had herpes 4 years ago. He actually said that. He did not understand it at all, like a lot of people here...just read this whole thread- this isn't a clear cut issue. He did realize it 4 months ago when something happened to make him check, and that would be the baby coming. So many people think they have it only when it shows up. This guy went through a very tough time trying to figure out what to say or do. No, he's not getting a pat in the back, but because he had no symptoms he could have NEVER said anything, ever. He realized now this could possibly affect the baby. It was clear by OP's post that he was in deep turmoil. He put the baby first.

He really didn't get it, that was clear. He isn't a liar, he isn't an abuser, he isn't a narcissist. He's dumb about herpes, so is OP. You are the one filling in a context that isn't there.

Both here are really naive, actually, and OP doesn't get to hold a torch of responsibility up because she is also late to the party. She never tested and didn't ask him to. Don't bring your personal issues into something that doesn't fit.

This thread should end. OP and boyfriend need counseling, and a doctor. That's all.

“So I tested positive for herpes 4 yrs ago but thought NAH can’t be me”
“I tested positive for herpes 1 year ago but thought NAH can’t be me”

Be so fu##ing for real right now.
Idk if he’s a narc, but he’s sure as fu## an abuser and a liar. 1000x he is. You are an abuse enabler by trying to coerce op to stay with her abuser. Disgusting.

And you are immature with no reading comprehension. Lol

Where's the issue in reading comprehension? He got tested years ago, was positive. Got tested more recently, positive again. He knew he had it and didn't tell op. He's a liar and potentially gave her an STD. Not sure how many you have that it's NBD, maybe youre a collector of sorts. Most of us aren't.

Anyone who dealt with medical professionals on this one would tell that doctors play herpes down a lot. He could have not placed any significant value in his positive tests until OP got pregnant. And then the doctors advised him it could affect the baby or he read online himself. So at that point he felt that it would be important to tell OP

Medical disclosures and their boundaries are grey area. I wouldn’t necessarily consider his decision making unethical unless OP clearly stated to him prior to having sex that heroes status was important to her

They play it down because of the mental health aspects of it.

They play it down because it is just a rash and you can take good meds for it. It is a nothing burger medically.

So is shingles, and I don't want that either! Go away rape apologist. This is not the space for you to victimize women.

You are insane.

Says the person defending sexual assault

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When we were dating, my husband didn’t tell me had cold sores. When I found it, I didn’t think that was anywhere near close to a good reason to leave at all. We got married and have seven kids (12,11,9,7,4,3, infant). Its not that big of a deal, I don’t have HSV-1 and our kids don’t either.