I’m 20w pregnant. My fiance told me he has herpes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tort Law 101: You need evidence of a harm in order to establish a claim. She does not have herpes..So, he didnt pass it to her. So, case dismissed. No.harm, no foul.

But she may have it…..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, he chose actions that hid the truth. For years. Whilst banging and cunnilinging away.
Who wants to keep a baby daddy like that?
Why have a spouse or live in like that?
What else will he choose to hide other things?
And no, not everyone has HSV2. Under 20% of US pop and declining by age group.
Not everyone has HSV1 either.
I don't. DH doesn't. Tested and rechecked because we have concierge doc and paid.

Your personal experience does not generalize to the entire pop. SORRY.

And you also cannot read and are inserting your own conclusions.

You are the one inserting conclusions. He has two positive tests, one from years ago. He knew he had a contagious STD and chose not to tell his girlfriend. He got her pregnant and chose not to tell her. He proposed and chose not to tell her. I don't care that some percent of people have this disease. It's my choice if I want to be with someone who has it, and he removed that choice. He committed sexual assault.

Knowingly giving someone herpes without their consent can be considered sexual assault or a criminal offense in many jurisdictions, as it violates the ability to give informed consent to sexual activity. Legal ramifications, including criminal charges and civil lawsuits, often stem from a failure to disclose a known STI before sexual contact.

Key Legal and Personal Considerations:
Legal Duty: Individuals with a known STI have a duty to inform sexual partners to allow them to make an informed decision.
Criminal Charges: Cases have occurred where failing to disclose herpes led to aggravated sexual assault charges.
Civil Liability: Victims may pursue civil action to receive compensation for medical bills, pain, and suffering.

Great idea - she should sue him for civil assault then try to get full custody.

wtf

. There have been suits filed and awards granted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These are one of those times that I am grateful to have health anxiety. It would never allow me to be intimate with someone without both of us being fully tested first.

Serious question, every time you’ve been intimate with someone you’ve asked to see their full panel? (herpes included since it’s not standard).

I’m a different person but yes. I had a lot of people tested and didn’t sleep with half of them. Once you get that first positive result from someone, you have to get everyone checked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, he chose actions that hid the truth. For years. Whilst banging and cunnilinging away.
Who wants to keep a baby daddy like that?
Why have a spouse or live in like that?
What else will he choose to hide other things?
And no, not everyone has HSV2. Under 20% of US pop and declining by age group.
Not everyone has HSV1 either.
I don't. DH doesn't. Tested and rechecked because we have concierge doc and paid.

Your personal experience does not generalize to the entire pop. SORRY.

And you also cannot read and are inserting your own conclusions.

You are the one inserting conclusions. He has two positive tests, one from years ago. He knew he had a contagious STD and chose not to tell his girlfriend. He got her pregnant and chose not to tell her. He proposed and chose not to tell her. I don't care that some percent of people have this disease. It's my choice if I want to be with someone who has it, and he removed that choice. He committed sexual assault.

Knowingly giving someone herpes without their consent can be considered sexual assault or a criminal offense in many jurisdictions, as it violates the ability to give informed consent to sexual activity. Legal ramifications, including criminal charges and civil lawsuits, often stem from a failure to disclose a known STI before sexual contact.

Key Legal and Personal Considerations:
Legal Duty: Individuals with a known STI have a duty to inform sexual partners to allow them to make an informed decision.
Criminal Charges: Cases have occurred where failing to disclose herpes led to aggravated sexual assault charges.
Civil Liability: Victims may pursue civil action to receive compensation for medical bills, pain, and suffering.

Again, you cannot read information correctly. That's not what was written. This is about the 4th time you've been told this.
Secondly, no, there is absolutely no legal ramifications for him or anyone here. None whatsoever. Google is really not your friend here as you are taking specific instances and suppositions out of context, well, because that is how you read material.

Explain that a 5th time but to Usher, R Kelly, Martin Sheen and Busta Rhymes…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are one of those times that I am grateful to have health anxiety. It would never allow me to be intimate with someone without both of us being fully tested first.

Serious question, every time you’ve been intimate with someone you’ve asked to see their full panel? (herpes included since it’s not standard).

I’m a different person but yes. I had a lot of people tested and didn’t sleep with half of them. Once you get that first positive result from someone, you have to get everyone checked.

But you DID ask them for test. There was no reason for OP’s fiancée to believe that herpes starts was important to her.

I had several men acknowledge they had it but after I explicitly asked for the test. I ended up not sleeping with them

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tort Law 101: You need evidence of a harm in order to establish a claim. She does not have herpes..So, he didnt pass it to her. So, case dismissed. No.harm, no foul.

But she may have it…..

Indeed, most people with genital herpes do not know they have it. Johns Hopkins says so right here. https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/herpes-hsv1-and-hsv2/genital-herpes

[Anonymous]

Is Jerry springer still alive?

We have new guests for his show.

[Anonymous]

This thread is a great example of what's so bad about the internet. It's full of twisted notions of herpes, how it is detected by the medical community, how it is spread, how it could affect a fetus, how it could affect a neonatal infant, how tort law works, how criminal law works, and so on. I can't remember the last time I read so many utterly incorrect statements written with such self-proclaimed authority by misinformed people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is a great example of what's so bad about the internet. It's full of twisted notions of herpes, how it is detected by the medical community, how it is spread, how it could affect a fetus, how it could affect a neonatal infant, how tort law works, how criminal law works, and so on. I can't remember the last time I read so many utterly incorrect statements written with such self-proclaimed authority by misinformed people.

Yes!! I have SO many questions after reading just 5 pages of this thread. I’m already exhausted trying to figure out who is right vs wrong.

The only thing I’m sure about: if I don’t have herpes by now, it’s due to plain luck.

So, is it now normal to insist on seeing a full panel + herpes result?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is a great example of what's so bad about the internet. It's full of twisted notions of herpes, how it is detected by the medical community, how it is spread, how it could affect a fetus, how it could affect a neonatal infant, how tort law works, how criminal law works, and so on. I can't remember the last time I read so many utterly incorrect statements written with such self-proclaimed authority by misinformed people.

Yes!! I have SO many questions after reading just 5 pages of this thread. I’m already exhausted trying to figure out who is right vs wrong.

The only thing I’m sure about: if I don’t have herpes by now, it’s due to plain luck.

So, is it now normal to insist on seeing a full panel + herpes result?

I think it’s normal for people who really don’t want herpes. That being said, I mostly don’t care about HSV-1. My ex had it and we were married for 20 years and I never got it. Also, I know it’s so common and you’d be more likely to find someone who has it versus not. But HSV-2? Yeah I don’t want that-so yes I ask. People mention that’s it’s a stigma, I don’t think that’s true with HSV-1. I’ve seen tons of people with cold sores and I don’t think people actually judge that at all. I think most know it’s inevitable and most get it in childhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is a great example of what's so bad about the internet. It's full of twisted notions of herpes, how it is detected by the medical community, how it is spread, how it could affect a fetus, how it could affect a neonatal infant, how tort law works, how criminal law works, and so on. I can't remember the last time I read so many utterly incorrect statements written with such self-proclaimed authority by misinformed people.

Yes!! I have SO many questions after reading just 5 pages of this thread. I’m already exhausted trying to figure out who is right vs wrong.

The only thing I’m sure about: if I don’t have herpes by now, it’s due to plain luck.

So, is it now normal to insist on seeing a full panel + herpes result?

I think it’s normal for people who really don’t want herpes. That being said, I mostly don’t care about HSV-1. My ex had it and we were married for 20 years and I never got it. Also, I know it’s so common and you’d be more likely to find someone who has it versus not. But HSV-2? Yeah I don’t want that-so yes I ask. People mention that’s it’s a stigma, I don’t think that’s true with HSV-1. I’ve seen tons of people with cold sores and I don’t think people actually judge that at all. I think most know it’s inevitable and most get it in childhood.

I date men with HSV1 but I avoid /dont allow them going down on me early in relationship. Knowledge is to protect myself from getting infected and to see if they would be open to take anti virals to keep me safe
I’m negative on both hsv1/2 and since heroes was recently linked to increased risk of brain disorders later in life, I prefer not to catch it while dating

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is a great example of what's so bad about the internet. It's full of twisted notions of herpes, how it is detected by the medical community, how it is spread, how it could affect a fetus, how it could affect a neonatal infant, how tort law works, how criminal law works, and so on. I can't remember the last time I read so many utterly incorrect statements written with such self-proclaimed authority by misinformed people.

Yes!! I have SO many questions after reading just 5 pages of this thread. I’m already exhausted trying to figure out who is right vs wrong.

The only thing I’m sure about: if I don’t have herpes by now, it’s due to plain luck.

So, is it now normal to insist on seeing a full panel + herpes result?

I think it’s normal for people who really don’t want herpes. That being said, I mostly don’t care about HSV-1. My ex had it and we were married for 20 years and I never got it. Also, I know it’s so common and you’d be more likely to find someone who has it versus not. But HSV-2? Yeah I don’t want that-so yes I ask. People mention that’s it’s a stigma, I don’t think that’s true with HSV-1. I’ve seen tons of people with cold sores and I don’t think people actually judge that at all. I think most know it’s inevitable and most get it in childhood.

I knew a sk..ky woman who was dating multiple men and gave them oral while she had active herpes outbreaks. She was my college roommate and shared it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is a great example of what's so bad about the internet. It's full of twisted notions of herpes, how it is detected by the medical community, how it is spread, how it could affect a fetus, how it could affect a neonatal infant, how tort law works, how criminal law works, and so on. I can't remember the last time I read so many utterly incorrect statements written with such self-proclaimed authority by misinformed people.

Yes!! I have SO many questions after reading just 5 pages of this thread. I’m already exhausted trying to figure out who is right vs wrong.

The only thing I’m sure about: if I don’t have herpes by now, it’s due to plain luck.

So, is it now normal to insist on seeing a full panel + herpes result?

I think it’s normal for people who really don’t want herpes. That being said, I mostly don’t care about HSV-1. My ex had it and we were married for 20 years and I never got it. Also, I know it’s so common and you’d be more likely to find someone who has it versus not. But HSV-2? Yeah I don’t want that-so yes I ask. People mention that’s it’s a stigma, I don’t think that’s true with HSV-1. I’ve seen tons of people with cold sores and I don’t think people actually judge that at all. I think most know it’s inevitable and most get it in childhood.

I knew a sk..ky woman who was dating multiple men and gave them oral while she had active herpes outbreaks. She was my college roommate and shared it

Ok? don’t really see how that’s relevant. your roommate isn’t a good person-that’s it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are one of those times that I am grateful to have health anxiety. It would never allow me to be intimate with someone without both of us being fully tested first.

Serious question, every time you’ve been intimate with someone you’ve asked to see their full panel? (herpes included since it’s not standard).

I’m a different person but yes. I had a lot of people tested and didn’t sleep with half of them. Once you get that first positive result from someone, you have to get everyone checked.

But you DID ask them for test. There was no reason for OP’s fiancée to believe that herpes starts was important to her.

I had several men acknowledge they had it but after I explicitly asked for the test. I ended up not sleeping with them

That’s correct. Nobody just volunteered that info. I had to ask and make further contact contingent on testing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is a great example of what's so bad about the internet. It's full of twisted notions of herpes, how it is detected by the medical community, how it is spread, how it could affect a fetus, how it could affect a neonatal infant, how tort law works, how criminal law works, and so on. I can't remember the last time I read so many utterly incorrect statements written with such self-proclaimed authority by misinformed people.

Don't forget that the majority of posters here simply cannot comprehend basic information, which is apparently how they got this way. That is the real issue. Herpes left the room days ago.