When sorority rush goes wrong

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve always enjoyed weeding out people stupid enough to list their (non-academic or industry) fraternity or sorority on their resume from the searches I’ve managed. Automatic no.

That’s a shame that you’re so biased that you don’t consider the full qualifications of candidates for hiring. Many of the students involved in their fraternity/sorority boards run organizations of 250+ people with large operating budgets, have risk management training, run charitable events, work within national guidelines, attend national leadership conferences, etc. It sounds like your company may be missing some recent grads who could be good candidates based on your reliance on Greek stereotypes.

[Anonymous]

That’s a shame that you’re so biased that you don’t consider the full qualifications of candidates for hiring. Many of the students involved in their fraternity/sorority boards run organizations of 250+ people with large operating budgets, have risk management training, run charitable events, work within national guidelines, attend national leadership conferences, etc. It sounds like your company may be missing some recent grads who could be good candidates based on your reliance on Greek stereotypes.

Well said.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Didn’t the northwestern female students close several sororities in recent years bc of historic racism or other reasons?

Alum here.
No it was woke BLM stuff.
But yes 4-5 chapters closed during COVID due to lack of members and lack of uni support.
The BLM blamed certain sororities and the school for not supporting black students.

Was it the ones who never accepted Black and brown girls?

No - not at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That’s a shame that you’re so biased that you don’t consider the full qualifications of candidates for hiring. Many of the students involved in their fraternity/sorority boards run organizations of 250+ people with large operating budgets, have risk management training, run charitable events, work within national guidelines, attend national leadership conferences, etc. It sounds like your company may be missing some recent grads who could be good candidates based on your reliance on Greek stereotypes.

Well said.

Dp, I wa an officer in my sorority and wouldn’t dream of including it on my resume. One can participate in Greek life while still having enough common sense to be aware of the stereotypes it invokes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That’s a shame that you’re so biased that you don’t consider the full qualifications of candidates for hiring. Many of the students involved in their fraternity/sorority boards run organizations of 250+ people with large operating budgets, have risk management training, run charitable events, work within national guidelines, attend national leadership conferences, etc. It sounds like your company may be missing some recent grads who could be good candidates based on your reliance on Greek stereotypes.

Well said.

Dp, I wa an officer in my sorority and wouldn’t dream of including it on my resume. One can participate in Greek life while still having enough common sense to be aware of the stereotypes it invokes. .

I see no purpose in including Greek executive officer experience on a resume many years after graduation, but what about when they apply to their first jobs? I think it would be a plus, when they don’t have a lot of professional experience yet. What about being treasurer/president for a campus organization? Would that be a plus?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That’s a shame that you’re so biased that you don’t consider the full qualifications of candidates for hiring. Many of the students involved in their fraternity/sorority boards run organizations of 250+ people with large operating budgets, have risk management training, run charitable events, work within national guidelines, attend national leadership conferences, etc. It sounds like your company may be missing some recent grads who could be good candidates based on your reliance on Greek stereotypes.

Well said.

Dp, I wa an officer in my sorority and wouldn’t dream of including it on my resume. One can participate in Greek life while still having enough common sense to be aware of the stereotypes it invokes.

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I see no purpose in including Greek executive officer experience on a resume many years after graduation, but what about when they apply to their first jobs? I think it would be a plus, when they don’t have a lot of professional experience yet. What about being treasurer/president for a campus organization? Would that be a plus?

I used to be like the PP and would scoff at anyone who put a leadership post at their frat/sorority on their resume but after speaking with the presidents of my own kids’ sororities I now see what a huge job it is. These kids are managing people and budgets and administrations and police and it’s a full time job. Any kid who volunteers to do that in college and is successful at it, is someone you want to hire.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LOL. Top 5 “things in common” thresholds for sororities:

1) Are you white and Christian
2) Are you pretty (bonus points for blonde)
3) Are you thin
4) Are you down to drink and be verrrryyyy “social” with fraternity brothers
5) Are you likely to STFU and do what you’re told

My daughter is a beautiful (inside and out), kind, hardworking, community-oriented young woman. She stands and speaks up for what she believes in. She, reflective of the overall stats for girls in sororities at Mich, has a higher GPA than the U Mich average (she has straight As). She is social and friendly, and if anyone said to her that she was "verrrryyy 'social' with fraternity brothers" she would likely tell you to go F*** yourself. So, on her behalf, and on behalf of other young women you are slandering as sexually promiscuous please go F*** yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That’s a shame that you’re so biased that you don’t consider the full qualifications of candidates for hiring. Many of the students involved in their fraternity/sorority boards run organizations of 250+ people with large operating budgets, have risk management training, run charitable events, work within national guidelines, attend national leadership conferences, etc. It sounds like your company may be missing some recent grads who could be good candidates based on your reliance on Greek stereotypes.

Well said.

Dp, I wa an officer in my sorority and wouldn’t dream of including it on my resume. One can participate in Greek life while still having enough common sense to be aware of the stereotypes it invokes.

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I see no purpose in including Greek executive officer experience on a resume many years after graduation, but what about when they apply to their first jobs? I think it would be a plus, when they don’t have a lot of professional experience yet. What about being treasurer/president for a campus organization? Would that be a plus?

Did you read my post to the end ? No, it isn’t a plus. People assume you are dumb and superficial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That’s a shame that you’re so biased that you don’t consider the full qualifications of candidates for hiring. Many of the students involved in their fraternity/sorority boards run organizations of 250+ people with large operating budgets, have risk management training, run charitable events, work within national guidelines, attend national leadership conferences, etc. It sounds like your company may be missing some recent grads who could be good candidates based on your reliance on Greek stereotypes.

Well said.

Dp, I wa an officer in my sorority and wouldn’t dream of including it on my resume. One can participate in Greek life while still having enough common sense to be aware of the stereotypes it invokes.

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I see no purpose in including Greek executive officer experience on a resume many years after graduation, but what about when they apply to their first jobs? I think it would be a plus, when they don’t have a lot of professional experience yet. What about being treasurer/president for a campus organization? Would that be a plus?

I used to be like the PP and would scoff at anyone who put a leadership post at their frat/sorority on their resume but after speaking with the presidents of my own kids’ sororities I now see what a huge job it is. These kids are managing people and budgets and administrations and police and it’s a full time job. Any kid who volunteers to do that in college and is successful at it, is someone you want to hire.

Oh boy, what don’t you understand about the majority of people having negative opinions about Greek life? It should never go on a resume. A hard working kid should want the focus on their gpa and other, more neutral, ecs.

[Anonymous]

My kid got many interviews bc president of frat and ifc executive board.
Private equity internship soph summer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid got many interviews bc president of frat and ifc executive board.
Private equity internship soph summer.

Exactly this! It's like any other networking connection to leverage early on. Those who find out the amount of responsibility and know-how it takes to run an on-campus Greek organization are often impressed. People who scoff at it or discount someone based on their choice of a Greek-lettered campus organization are missing out.

I wonder the other biases the poster who initially said they won't even consider hiring those with anything fraternity/sorority oriented on their resume harbors. College Democrats? Definitely out, probably a socialist. Young Republicans? Scratch that candidate, must be a MAGA! Varsity athlete? Probably can't even read and had other students take their exams for them. Nope! Graduate of a big, southern state school? Definitely a redneck with no class, no money, and no education. Next!

Sounds ridiculous, right? Let's not fall to base stereotypes about those involved in fraternity and sorority life. These are kids making their way in the world, with much to offer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL. Top 5 “things in common” thresholds for sororities:

1) Are you white and Christian
2) Are you pretty (bonus points for blonde)
3) Are you thin
4) Are you down to drink and be verrrryyyy “social” with fraternity brothers
5) Are you likely to STFU and do what you’re told

My daughter is a beautiful (inside and out), kind, hardworking, community-oriented young woman. She stands and speaks up for what she believes in. She, reflective of the overall stats for girls in sororities at Mich, has a higher GPA than the U Mich average (she has straight As). She is social and friendly, and if anyone said to her that she was "verrrryyy 'social' with fraternity brothers" she would likely tell you to go F*** yourself. So, on her behalf, and on behalf of other young women you are slandering as sexually promiscuous please go F*** yourself.

If she would use language like that, she is not a completely "beautiful woman."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That’s a shame that you’re so biased that you don’t consider the full qualifications of candidates for hiring. Many of the students involved in their fraternity/sorority boards run organizations of 250+ people with large operating budgets, have risk management training, run charitable events, work within national guidelines, attend national leadership conferences, etc. It sounds like your company may be missing some recent grads who could be good candidates based on your reliance on Greek stereotypes.

Well said.

Dp, I wa an officer in my sorority and wouldn’t dream of including it on my resume. One can participate in Greek life while still having enough common sense to be aware of the stereotypes it invokes.

.

I see no purpose in including Greek executive officer experience on a resume many years after graduation, but what about when they apply to their first jobs? I think it would be a plus, when they don’t have a lot of professional experience yet. What about being treasurer/president for a campus organization? Would that be a plus?

Did you read my post to the end ? No, it isn’t a plus. People assume you are dumb and superficial.

I disagree with this. For a first job, it's fine and expected to see greek leadership/ membership on a resume. But I see 35 and 40 year olds who still include this. At that point, it's embarrassing. Or should be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That’s a shame that you’re so biased that you don’t consider the full qualifications of candidates for hiring. Many of the students involved in their fraternity/sorority boards run organizations of 250+ people with large operating budgets, have risk management training, run charitable events, work within national guidelines, attend national leadership conferences, etc. It sounds like your company may be missing some recent grads who could be good candidates based on your reliance on Greek stereotypes.

Well said.

Dp, I wa an officer in my sorority and wouldn’t dream of including it on my resume. One can participate in Greek life while still having enough common sense to be aware of the stereotypes it invokes.

.

I see no purpose in including Greek executive officer experience on a resume many years after graduation, but what about when they apply to their first jobs? I think it would be a plus, when they don’t have a lot of professional experience yet. What about being treasurer/president for a campus organization? Would that be a plus?

Did you read my post to the end ? No, it isn’t a plus. People assume you are dumb and superficial.

I disagree with this. For a first job, it's fine and expected to see greek leadership/ membership on a resume. But I see 35 and 40 year olds who still include this. At that point, it's embarrassing. Or should be.

Anyone aged 35-40 who is including college activities and organizations on their resumes should probably move on to professional accomplishments and organizations, not just those who were in Greek organizations.

[Anonymous]

Has OP's daughter dropped out and joined the Army yet?