Hegseth's Grand Summoning

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is really weird how focused on appearance and loyalty to Trump Hegseth is. He wants toy soldiers. Toy soldiers looks good on the parade ground.

There is a revolution in combat operations going on in the Ukraine-Russian war. Only a few US special operations units are training up the current state of drone warfare. There is no wide spread training taking place on how to prepare for drone warfare.

The drones have created a 20-30 miles buffer zone around the frontlines. It’s just a no man’s land where vehicles and soldiers cannot operate. Ukrainians sunk 1/3 of the Russian navy with basically remote control jet skis.

I heard on public radio that Ukraine will manufacture one million drones this year, drones that can travel hundreds of miles to take out strategic targets. Ukraine is becoming a leader in military production out of the necessity of defending against this Russian invasion, and I am glad that there is a silver lining for them that they will have such expertise and manufacturing capability so they can rebuild and fund their rebirth after they defeat Putin and begin their next chapter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is nothing in the statement from the US attorney for DC talking about legal or registered shotguns or rifles. It just say the US attorney will not bring charges. Though they do leave an opening to charge if agents make up some charge.

They will still take your weapon at security checkpoints. Taking guns(registered or not) and demanding proof of citizenship are all they are doing at security checkpoints in DC. 222 guns were seized at checkpoints.

Hey why don’t you go down to the mall and walk around with a shotgun or rifle. You know to test the 2nd amendment. Tell us how it goes!

Perhaps you should dig a little deeper.

“The U.S. Attorney for D.C., Jeanine Pirro, announced a significant policy change: federal prosecutors will no longer pursue felony charges for carrying registered rifles or shotguns in the city, a shift seen as aligning with recent Supreme Court rulings and criticized by gun control advocates as a public safety risk. While registered long guns can now be carried openly, illegal firearms, concealed carry violations, and crimes by prohibited individuals are still subject to prosecution.

What's Changing

Focus on Illegal Firearms: Federal prosecutors, under the new policy, will concentrate on getting illegal firearms off the streets and prosecuting violent gun crimes, instead of targeting lawful gun owners with registered weapons.

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If “security checkpoints” are at government buildings, yes, they will take your gun. It’s a similar procedure to the TSA at IAD or DCA.

Any stops on city streets where they find unregistered guns, illegally possessed guns, illegally concealed guns and stolen guns would obviously lead to felony arrests and removal of the firearms. Why are you glossing over this? Why are you not more concerned that 222 firearms fell into these alarming categories?

Again, are you for illegal guns on the streets of D.C.?

We are against open carry of legal firearms by non-MPD non-military people in our city. There is no hunting in DC, so for what purpose do people want to open carry long guns in the city?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe people I know were summoned here from overseas for this.

Speechless.

+1

This is an abomination and I am pretty confident most of the top brass see it the same way.

Then they should resign their commissions. Regardless of how “right” the brass may be, they serve at the pleasure of the democratically elected civilian leadership of the country. If they really believe this is an abomination, then they need to resign.

You are upset with the wrong people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He said FAFO. I would have loved to see those admirals, generals, colonels, get up and walk out. There he was in his suit and tie in front of all those in uniform and his think little stripe of colors. Sad sad day.

Have you ever been in a military unit? Doesn't sound like it.

I was only in JROTC, but I come from a long serving military family - every generation since the revolution - and I get what you mean.

I saw photos that were taken of the audience inside the room; stone faced or poker faced, whichever you prefer. The word on the street is that the general consensus was absolute disgust with what they heard and that they were summoned to hear it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He said FAFO. I would have loved to see those admirals, generals, colonels, get up and walk out. There he was in his suit and tie in front of all those in uniform and his think little stripe of colors. Sad sad day.

Have you ever been in a military unit? Doesn't sound like it.

I was only in JROTC, but I come from a long serving military family - every generation since the revolution - and I get what you mean.

I saw photos that were taken of the audience inside the room; stone faced or poker faced, whichever you prefer. The word on the street is that the general consensus was absolute disgust with what they heard and that they were summoned to hear it.

I’m the OP and I have to imagine the disgust these brave men (and hopefully women) felt listening to these speeches, threats made (if you don’t like what we are saying leave and see what happens) being told that hazing and instilling fear in our troops is the future of our military. Being scolded for not cheering for frump. This is shameful.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He said FAFO. I would have loved to see those admirals, generals, colonels, get up and walk out. There he was in his suit and tie in front of all those in uniform and his think little stripe of colors. Sad sad day.

Have you ever been in a military unit? Doesn't sound like it.

I was only in JROTC, but I come from a long serving military family - every generation since the revolution - and I get what you mean.

I saw photos that were taken of the audience inside the room; stone faced or poker faced, whichever you prefer. The word on the street is that the general consensus was absolute disgust with what they heard and that they were summoned to hear it.

I’m the OP and I have to imagine the disgust these brave men (and hopefully women) felt listening to these speeches, threats made (if you don’t like what we are saying leave and see what happens) being told that hazing and instilling fear in our troops is the future of our military. Being scolded for not cheering for frump. This is shameful.

I'm sure there are some that feel as you do. Most likely approve of most, but not all of the changes. And, there are some who are all for it.

I think of someone I know on an ROTC hike/march. They had a time limit and his group was falling behind. He had to carry a female cadet's backpack because she was slowing them down. Some of what Hegseth said has value.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He said FAFO. I would have loved to see those admirals, generals, colonels, get up and walk out. There he was in his suit and tie in front of all those in uniform and his think little stripe of colors. Sad sad day.

Have you ever been in a military unit? Doesn't sound like it.

I was only in JROTC, but I come from a long serving military family - every generation since the revolution - and I get what you mean.

I saw photos that were taken of the audience inside the room; stone faced or poker faced, whichever you prefer. The word on the street is that the general consensus was absolute disgust with what they heard and that they were summoned to hear it.

I’m the OP and I have to imagine the disgust these brave men (and hopefully women) felt listening to these speeches, threats made (if you don’t like what we are saying leave and see what happens) being told that hazing and instilling fear in our troops is the future of our military. Being scolded for not cheering for frump. This is shameful.

I'm sure there are some that feel as you do. Most likely approve of most, but not all of the changes. And, there are some who are all for it.

I think of someone I know on an ROTC hike/march. They had a time limit and his group was falling behind. He had to carry a female cadet's backpack because she was slowing them down. Some of what Hegseth said has value.

You see the difference between not leaving someone behind and hazing right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He said FAFO. I would have loved to see those admirals, generals, colonels, get up and walk out. There he was in his suit and tie in front of all those in uniform and his think little stripe of colors. Sad sad day.

Have you ever been in a military unit? Doesn't sound like it.

I was only in JROTC, but I come from a long serving military family - every generation since the revolution - and I get what you mean.

I saw photos that were taken of the audience inside the room; stone faced or poker faced, whichever you prefer. The word on the street is that the general consensus was absolute disgust with what they heard and that they were summoned to hear it.

I’m the OP and I have to imagine the disgust these brave men (and hopefully women) felt listening to these speeches, threats made (if you don’t like what we are saying leave and see what happens) being told that hazing and instilling fear in our troops is the future of our military. Being scolded for not cheering for frump. This is shameful.

I'm sure there are some that feel as you do. Most likely approve of most, but not all of the changes. And, there are some who are all for it.

I think of someone I know on an ROTC hike/march. They had a time limit and his group was falling behind. He had to carry a female cadet's backpack because she was slowing them down. Some of what Hegseth said has value.

Your random ROTC anecdote has minuscule significance to the appropriateness of Hegseth's comments today. I'm sure the military has plenty of actually relevant data, plus knowledge of the importance, or lack thereof, of pushups to modern warfare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Today's spectacle was the most dangerous and deranged thing we've seen out of this Administration yet.

Agree. I’ve been stress eating all day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He said FAFO. I would have loved to see those admirals, generals, colonels, get up and walk out. There he was in his suit and tie in front of all those in uniform and his think little stripe of colors. Sad sad day.

Have you ever been in a military unit? Doesn't sound like it.

I was only in JROTC, but I come from a long serving military family - every generation since the revolution - and I get what you mean.

I saw photos that were taken of the audience inside the room; stone faced or poker faced, whichever you prefer. The word on the street is that the general consensus was absolute disgust with what they heard and that they were summoned to hear it.

I’m the OP and I have to imagine the disgust these brave men (and hopefully women) felt listening to these speeches, threats made (if you don’t like what we are saying leave and see what happens) being told that hazing and instilling fear in our troops is the future of our military. Being scolded for not cheering for frump. This is shameful.

I'm sure there are some that feel as you do. Most likely approve of most, but not all of the changes. And, there are some who are all for it.

I think of someone I know on an ROTC hike/march. They had a time limit and his group was falling behind. He had to carry a female cadet's backpack because she was slowing them down. Some of what Hegseth said has value.

lol ROTC? Really? So what? There are tons of people(men and women) who join and quit ROTC. ROTC cadets actually are evaluated for 4 weeks in the summer between your junior and senior year.

Never heard of a forced march in ROTC. Maybe it was for an EIB? The final graded event is a 12-mile foot march which must be completed in three hours or less. That is not really hard to do.

I think you are trying to say women should not be in the military because they can not keep up with any male? Were you in the military? I have seen a lot of men who can not keep up with women. Specially many of the support units. It’s not like all female who are in combat roles have to pass a standardized physical test that has no gender bias. Oh wait they do!

Next you will be posting about changing ROE because killing civilians always works out well in the end. It separates the good guys(and countries) from the bad ones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He said FAFO. I would have loved to see those admirals, generals, colonels, get up and walk out. There he was in his suit and tie in front of all those in uniform and his think little stripe of colors. Sad sad day.

Have you ever been in a military unit? Doesn't sound like it.

I was only in JROTC, but I come from a long serving military family - every generation since the revolution - and I get what you mean.

I saw photos that were taken of the audience inside the room; stone faced or poker faced, whichever you prefer. The word on the street is that the general consensus was absolute disgust with what they heard and that they were summoned to hear it.

I’m the OP and I have to imagine the disgust these brave men (and hopefully women) felt listening to these speeches, threats made (if you don’t like what we are saying leave and see what happens) being told that hazing and instilling fear in our troops is the future of our military. Being scolded for not cheering for frump. This is shameful.

I'm sure there are some that feel as you do. Most likely approve of most, but not all of the changes. And, there are some who are all for it.

I think of someone I know on an ROTC hike/march. They had a time limit and his group was falling behind. He had to carry a female cadet's backpack because she was slowing them down. Some of what Hegseth said has value.

What is this, 1919?

Enjoy hiking away from 500 drones controlled from 500 miles away.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He said FAFO. I would have loved to see those admirals, generals, colonels, get up and walk out. There he was in his suit and tie in front of all those in uniform and his think little stripe of colors. Sad sad day.

Have you ever been in a military unit? Doesn't sound like it.

I was only in JROTC, but I come from a long serving military family - every generation since the revolution - and I get what you mean.

I saw photos that were taken of the audience inside the room; stone faced or poker faced, whichever you prefer. The word on the street is that the general consensus was absolute disgust with what they heard and that they were summoned to hear it.

I’m the OP and I have to imagine the disgust these brave men (and hopefully women) felt listening to these speeches, threats made (if you don’t like what we are saying leave and see what happens) being told that hazing and instilling fear in our troops is the future of our military. Being scolded for not cheering for frump. This is shameful.

I'm sure there are some that feel as you do. Most likely approve of most, but not all of the changes. And, there are some who are all for it.

I think of someone I know on an ROTC hike/march. They had a time limit and his group was falling behind. He had to carry a female cadet's backpack because she was slowing them down. Some of what Hegseth said has value.

lol ROTC? Really? So what? There are tons of people(men and women) who join and quit ROTC. ROTC cadets actually are evaluated for 4 weeks in the summer between your junior and senior year.

Never heard of a forced march in ROTC. Maybe it was for an EIB? The final graded event is a 12-mile foot march which must be completed in three hours or less. That is not really hard to do.

I think you are trying to say women should not be in the military because they can not keep up with any male? Were you in the military? I have seen a lot of men who can not keep up with women. Specially many of the support units. It’s not like all female who are in combat roles have to pass a standardized physical test that has no gender bias. Oh wait they do!

Next you will be posting about changing ROE because killing civilians always works out well in the end. It separates the good guys(and countries) from the bad ones.

Sure, it was anecdotal. It was also true. You do know that most ROTC students get tuition and a stipend? And, yes, well aware of LDAC or whatever the current name is at Ft Lewis.
And, if you listened to the speech, Hegseth also said that there were also men who would not meet the standard.

Yes, we had a big discussion about ROE in my house today. No one is calling for NO ROE, just reasonable ones. A year or so ago, DH and his military buddies were discussing their ROE in Vietnam compared to what their kids were required in Afghanistan. There were issues then, too, with the requirements. But, lately, it has been worse.

And, there is a place in DOD for those in support roles that do not require the PT test. It is called civilian jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He said FAFO. I would have loved to see those admirals, generals, colonels, get up and walk out. There he was in his suit and tie in front of all those in uniform and his think little stripe of colors. Sad sad day.

Have you ever been in a military unit? Doesn't sound like it.

I was only in JROTC, but I come from a long serving military family - every generation since the revolution - and I get what you mean.

I saw photos that were taken of the audience inside the room; stone faced or poker faced, whichever you prefer. The word on the street is that the general consensus was absolute disgust with what they heard and that they were summoned to hear it.

I’m the OP and I have to imagine the disgust these brave men (and hopefully women) felt listening to these speeches, threats made (if you don’t like what we are saying leave and see what happens) being told that hazing and instilling fear in our troops is the future of our military. Being scolded for not cheering for frump. This is shameful.

I'm sure there are some that feel as you do. Most likely approve of most, but not all of the changes. And, there are some who are all for it.

I think of someone I know on an ROTC hike/march. They had a time limit and his group was falling behind. He had to carry a female cadet's backpack because she was slowing them down. Some of what Hegseth said has value.

lol ROTC? Really? So what? There are tons of people(men and women) who join and quit ROTC. ROTC cadets actually are evaluated for 4 weeks in the summer between your junior and senior year.

Never heard of a forced march in ROTC. Maybe it was for an EIB? The final graded event is a 12-mile foot march which must be completed in three hours or less. That is not really hard to do.

I think you are trying to say women should not be in the military because they can not keep up with any male? Were you in the military? I have seen a lot of men who can not keep up with women. Specially many of the support units. It’s not like all female who are in combat roles have to pass a standardized physical test that has no gender bias. Oh wait they do!

Next you will be posting about changing ROE because killing civilians always works out well in the end. It separates the good guys(and countries) from the bad ones.

Sure, it was anecdotal. It was also true. You do know that most ROTC students get tuition and a stipend? And, yes, well aware of LDAC or whatever the current name is at Ft Lewis.
And, if you listened to the speech, Hegseth also said that there were also men who would not meet the standard.

Yes, we had a big discussion about ROE in my house today. No one is calling for NO ROE, just reasonable ones. A year or so ago, DH and his military buddies were discussing their ROE in Vietnam compared to what their kids were required in Afghanistan. There were issues then, too, with the requirements. But, lately, it has been worse.

And, there is a place in DOD for those in support roles that do not require the PT test. It is called civilian jobs.

The military is having a hard enough time recruiting. This Hegseth nonsense will only make that so much worse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He said FAFO. I would have loved to see those admirals, generals, colonels, get up and walk out. There he was in his suit and tie in front of all those in uniform and his think little stripe of colors. Sad sad day.

Have you ever been in a military unit? Doesn't sound like it.

I was only in JROTC, but I come from a long serving military family - every generation since the revolution - and I get what you mean.

I saw photos that were taken of the audience inside the room; stone faced or poker faced, whichever you prefer. The word on the street is that the general consensus was absolute disgust with what they heard and that they were summoned to hear it.

I’m the OP and I have to imagine the disgust these brave men (and hopefully women) felt listening to these speeches, threats made (if you don’t like what we are saying leave and see what happens) being told that hazing and instilling fear in our troops is the future of our military. Being scolded for not cheering for frump. This is shameful.

I'm sure there are some that feel as you do. Most likely approve of most, but not all of the changes. And, there are some who are all for it.

I think of someone I know on an ROTC hike/march. They had a time limit and his group was falling behind. He had to carry a female cadet's backpack because she was slowing them down. Some of what Hegseth said has value.

lol ROTC? Really? So what? There are tons of people(men and women) who join and quit ROTC. ROTC cadets actually are evaluated for 4 weeks in the summer between your junior and senior year.

Never heard of a forced march in ROTC. Maybe it was for an EIB? The final graded event is a 12-mile foot march which must be completed in three hours or less. That is not really hard to do.

I think you are trying to say women should not be in the military because they can not keep up with any male? Were you in the military? I have seen a lot of men who can not keep up with women. Specially many of the support units. It’s not like all female who are in combat roles have to pass a standardized physical test that has no gender bias. Oh wait they do!

Next you will be posting about changing ROE because killing civilians always works out well in the end. It separates the good guys(and countries) from the bad ones.

Sure, it was anecdotal. It was also true. You do know that most ROTC students get tuition and a stipend? And, yes, well aware of LDAC or whatever the current name is at Ft Lewis.
And, if you listened to the speech, Hegseth also said that there were also men who would not meet the standard.

Yes, we had a big discussion about ROE in my house today. No one is calling for NO ROE, just reasonable ones. A year or so ago, DH and his military buddies were discussing their ROE in Vietnam compared to what their kids were required in Afghanistan. There were issues then, too, with the requirements. But, lately, it has been worse.

And, there is a place in DOD for those in support roles that do not require the PT test. It is called civilian jobs.

The military is having a hard enough time recruiting. This Hegseth nonsense will only make that so much worse.

We'll see. They claim it has improved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I see you did not link the article and made things up. The Trump AG in DC said they would not prosecute people for carrying shotguns or rifles. This was not link to registration, stolen guns, ccw, etc. or hand guns.

I used AI. Isn’t that the new thing people use here?

I never make things up. Feel free to try and point something out.

I’m still waiting for links to stories about legally possessed and registered handguns being taken from citizens at D.C. checkpoints. Again, I’ll keep waiting.

Here’s a Duke law article.

“The change, as announced by Pirro, involves instructing attorneys within the D.C. U.S. Attorney’s Office “not to seek felony charges against people who are carrying rifles or shotguns” in public. The shift relates only to long guns, not handguns. It apparently involves only long guns for which the owner has sought and obtained a valid registration certificate, as Pirro did not mention any changes to D.C.’s registration requirements and stated that her shift simply “preclude[s ] a separate charge of possession of a registered rifle or shotgun” being carried in a public space. Registered long guns, then, can be carried in public without the risk of arrest under the new policy.”

https://firearmslaw.duke.edu/2025/09/whats-happening-with-washington-d-c-s-public-carry-laws

You desperately want to be right, but you’re woefully uninformed.