Let them reap what they sow

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Anonymous wrote:We live in a different America clearly, and the disgusting trash won.

But I so wish for it all to work out just as we know it will. Let them lose their healthcare and social security and welfare. Let them all get deported, every single one of them. Let our stocks go up while they wallow in their paycheck to paycheck. Let their families go hungry and sick. Let Musk cut the government in half, all of it. Let their women bleed out in hospitals.

We will be fine but I cannot wait, cannot I tell you, for them to reap what they sow.

Very typical thinking for progressives. You want the "other" to suffer while your stocks go up. Everyone senses your hatred. And you are not winning elections with your spite.

Trump and the Reps literally just won an election with their spite! Trump = spite.
Spite clearly works. So does playing dirty. And so I am done with my kindness, open-mindedness and compassion.

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Out of spite, I think Ds should hang back for a few elections at the federal level. Let the Rs turn the US into the hellhole they desire. Then we can revisit the value of government regulation and government services. Maybe they need to feel the pain first.

Moron we are already feeling the pain which is why Democrats lost so badly. Why do over 70% of Americans feel like the country is moving in the wrong direction if the Democrats were doing such a fantastic job? They have held office for the past 12 out of 16 years. A majority of people believe they are worse off today than they were in 2020. Why are so many people moving to red states? The definition of insanity is continuing to do the same thing over and over again expecting different results.

Because of the pandemic, world-wide supply chain, etc.

People would be in an even worse place if Trump had won in 2020. Ds gave us a soft landing. Just look at how the US is recovering compared to other countries.

Well people who understand economics and can read and process real news understand that. But majority of the 51% don't understand that and don't want to.

That is really condescending. The entire globe suffered from inflation. It was not as bad in the United States as it was in other places. That is not impossible or even that difficult to grasp.

Except apparently it is.

But who cares how stupid they are. What matters is reaching them with an effective message. Meet them where they are. We apparently didn't do that this time, and now we have what we have.

Who cares. Inflation is 100% Trump's problem to fix now, and he promised he would fix it.

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Anonymous wrote:We live in a different America clearly, and the disgusting trash won.

But I so wish for it all to work out just as we know it will. Let them lose their healthcare and social security and welfare. Let them all get deported, every single one of them. Let our stocks go up while they wallow in their paycheck to paycheck. Let their families go hungry and sick. Let Musk cut the government in half, all of it. Let their women bleed out in hospitals.

We will be fine but I cannot wait, cannot I tell you, for them to reap what they sow.

Very typical thinking for progressives. You want the "other" to suffer while your stocks go up. Everyone senses your hatred. And you are not winning elections with your spite.

So what should we do? Storming the Capitol? Telling the rally goers s to shoot our opponents? Shoot the press? Punch an old lady?

Rethink your policies.

Pity, I thought the storming part could be fun, like partying?

What policy? You mean get a white dictator as candidate?

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Anonymous wrote:Are people really convinced that Trump is going to be bad for the working and middle class?

I think tariffs are a terrible idea, but everything else I'm seeing from Trump is far better for than what Biden/Harris put forward. For most Americans, it would be very foolish to vote for Democrats.

Good for you.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this knee jerk attitude so popular right now?
I called my mom to commiserate and she said the same things about keeping our chins up, we'll be great, they'll suffer and maybe learn their lesson.
Maybe it's just a fleeting sentiment and will fade, I hope. I told her dd and many other young women will suffer too, we won't be fine and dandy.
I don't think I want to see the struggling LC people get a harsher blow, even if they do parrot the vile propaganda. The MC/UMC trumpsters, I feel more indifferent to, they could handle taking their medicine but even then, the suffering to come from deregulation and program cuts (especially in health care and elder care) is a bit too much karma.

People are just venting. When you see someone drawing, you will always help. You don't give an F what party they belong.

Not anymore.

I can see people would no longer drive to NYC to help New Yorkers after 9/11, but I can't see people let other people drawn. I am from a f-ed up country and we still save lives.

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Anonymous wrote:We live in a different America clearly, and the disgusting trash won.

But I so wish for it all to work out just as we know it will. Let them lose their healthcare and social security and welfare. Let them all get deported, every single one of them. Let our stocks go up while they wallow in their paycheck to paycheck. Let their families go hungry and sick. Let Musk cut the government in half, all of it. Let their women bleed out in hospitals.

We will be fine but I cannot wait, cannot I tell you, for them to reap what they sow.

Very typical thinking for progressives. You want the "other" to suffer while your stocks go up. Everyone senses your hatred. And you are not winning elections with your spite.

Trump and the Reps literally just won an election with their spite! Trump = spite.
Spite clearly works. So does playing dirty. And so I am done with my kindness, open-mindedness and compassion.

+1

Out of spite, I think Ds should hang back for a few elections at the federal level. Let the Rs turn the US into the hellhole they desire. Then we can revisit the value of government regulation and government services. Maybe they need to feel the pain first.

Moron we are already feeling the pain which is why Democrats lost so badly. Why do over 70% of Americans feel like the country is moving in the wrong direction if the Democrats were doing such a fantastic job? They have held office for the past 12 out of 16 years. A majority of people believe they are worse off today than they were in 2020. Why are so many people moving to red states? The definition of insanity is continuing to do the same thing over and over again expecting different results.

Because of the pandemic, world-wide supply chain, etc.

People would be in an even worse place if Trump had won in 2020. Ds gave us a soft landing. Just look at how the US is recovering compared to other countries.

Well people who understand economics and can read and process real news understand that. But majority of the 51% don't understand that and don't want to.

That is really condescending. The entire globe suffered from inflation. It was not as bad in the United States as it was in other places. That is not impossible or even that difficult to grasp.

Except apparently it is.

But who cares how stupid they are. What matters is reaching them with an effective message. Meet them where they are. We apparently didn't do that this time, and now we have what we have.

Who cares. Inflation is 100% Trump's problem to fix now, and he promised he would fix it.

Biden already fixed it, though. He did an incredible job stewarding this economy through impossible times - and now we have low inflation (though still higher prices) and low unemployment. Trump is inheriting yet another great economy that he's going to do some things to. But people voted for him, and maybe the economy is strong enough to endure what he tries to do. I'm certainly not rooting for a recession or painful inflation again.

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I wonder what would happened to the 54 million people on Obama care when it is finally overturned...

Obamacare isn’t going anywhere. Too many red states have approved it and will not give it up. It’s all talk.

You can tell yourself that but did you not pay attention to what Trump, Vance and Johnson said? They’re going to fix it. They want to put people in risk pools so that young healthy people don’t “have to subsidize” the elderly and those with preexisting conditions.

So what you are saying is the government is going to subsidize the subsidies, through taxes on the younger workers. I plan to retire early and will need the ACA. That is works for me too.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope you are a caricature of a democrat and fake. If not you should reflect a little bit about your values, because blaming poor Americans for an outcome you don't like and wishing them physical harm in such a hateful way is pretty awful.

I'm not the OP but let's be perfectly honest here: Anyone who voted for Trump, or who abstained from voting, does not have ANYONE to blame for anything to go wrong in the next 4 years but themselves. If their wages don't go up, if their grocery and heathcare costs don't come down, if their rents don't come down, if they still can't afford to buy a house, that's THEIR OWN FAULT.

There's no escaping that.

He won the popular vote. Finger pointing and stupid, smug, blinkered arrogance are your fatal character flaws.

To add: Democratic strategists CURRENTLY ON MSNBC collectively AGREE that the economic messaging to poorer traditional Democratic voters was poor. But hey you know better right!? Right!

I've said it for years. I support Democrats and most of the Democrat agenda, but they totally SUCK at messaging.

Stop this. You can’t tell people something they don’t want to hear. You can’t rationalize with irrational people. These are people who think pandemic gas prices were because of trump and not because none of use were driving anywhere. They’re willfully ignorant and no amount of ass kissing will change them.

This. I’m tired of being lectured about not caring about The Forgotten American. I’m a real American too. And I’ve worked hard and delayed gratification. And I believe it’s my responsibility as an American to try and level the playing field so all Americans get opportunities. But we are held back by bitter aggrieved people who won’t lift a finger to help themselves and think they are entitled to make dumb choices and not suffer the consequences.

Every American who isn't MAGA has just been forgotten. We're "absolute garbage" and "scum."
MAGAs are no longer entitled to the victim complex.

Don't forget the "enemy within." I expect my membership card in the mail any day now.

And don't forget the "deep state" and "the system". It is supposed to be powerful and omnipresent but can't do shit to Trump.

They hamstrung his first presidency with lies like Russia collusion and got him impeached twice for nonsense.

He was the president, not a whinny little b-tch.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone who voted Trump worry about Social Security cuts and tariffs, or nah?

It’s all insults and MAGA hats until someone gets hurt. The invisible hand of the market will not bow to GOP lies.

Yep. They thought tariffs would be good for America and that China would be paying them. That is not at all how it works. The only way it would benefit American business is if American business has the ability to source domestic materials at a competitive rate, to retool for domestic production at a competitive rate, and so on, and that takes years to do - and in other instances we still can't source or produce the materials as cheaply as foreign countries can, and inevitably costs go up, and companies need to be able to recover those costs to stay in business, which drives cost increases and inflation.

We told them this. We explained it. We warned them. They instead all chose to double down in their happy little bubble of Trump lies and delusions.

Let this be a learning moment for them.

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Anonymous wrote:We live in a different America clearly, and the disgusting trash won.

But I so wish for it all to work out just as we know it will. Let them lose their healthcare and social security and welfare. Let them all get deported, every single one of them. Let our stocks go up while they wallow in their paycheck to paycheck. Let their families go hungry and sick. Let Musk cut the government in half, all of it. Let their women bleed out in hospitals.

We will be fine but I cannot wait, cannot I tell you, for them to reap what they sow.

Very typical thinking for progressives. You want the "other" to suffer while your stocks go up. Everyone senses your hatred. And you are not winning elections with your spite.

Trump and the Reps literally just won an election with their spite! Trump = spite.
Spite clearly works. So does playing dirty. And so I am done with my kindness, open-mindedness and compassion.

+1

Out of spite, I think Ds should hang back for a few elections at the federal level. Let the Rs turn the US into the hellhole they desire. Then we can revisit the value of government regulation and government services. Maybe they need to feel the pain first.

Moron we are already feeling the pain which is why Democrats lost so badly. Why do over 70% of Americans feel like the country is moving in the wrong direction if the Democrats were doing such a fantastic job? They have held office for the past 12 out of 16 years. A majority of people believe they are worse off today than they were in 2020. Why are so many people moving to red states? The definition of insanity is continuing to do the same thing over and over again expecting different results.

Because of the pandemic, world-wide supply chain, etc.

People would be in an even worse place if Trump had won in 2020. Ds gave us a soft landing. Just look at how the US is recovering compared to other countries.

Well people who understand economics and can read and process real news understand that. But majority of the 51% don't understand that and don't want to.

That is really condescending. The entire globe suffered from inflation. It was not as bad in the United States as it was in other places. That is not impossible or even that difficult to grasp.

Except apparently it is.

But who cares how stupid they are. What matters is reaching them with an effective message. Meet them where they are. We apparently didn't do that this time, and now we have what we have.

Who cares. Inflation is 100% Trump's problem to fix now, and he promised he would fix it.

Right, all while lowering taxes, deporting people, raising tariffs, and lowering the costs of consumer goods.

Really interested in seeing how this is going to work.

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Anonymous wrote:We live in a different America clearly, and the disgusting trash won.

But I so wish for it all to work out just as we know it will. Let them lose their healthcare and social security and welfare. Let them all get deported, every single one of them. Let our stocks go up while they wallow in their paycheck to paycheck. Let their families go hungry and sick. Let Musk cut the government in half, all of it. Let their women bleed out in hospitals.

We will be fine but I cannot wait, cannot I tell you, for them to reap what they sow.

Very typical thinking for progressives. You want the "other" to suffer while your stocks go up. Everyone senses your hatred. And you are not winning elections with your spite.

Trump and the Reps literally just won an election with their spite! Trump = spite.
Spite clearly works. So does playing dirty. And so I am done with my kindness, open-mindedness and compassion.

+1

Out of spite, I think Ds should hang back for a few elections at the federal level. Let the Rs turn the US into the hellhole they desire. Then we can revisit the value of government regulation and government services. Maybe they need to feel the pain first.

Moron we are already feeling the pain which is why Democrats lost so badly. Why do over 70% of Americans feel like the country is moving in the wrong direction if the Democrats were doing such a fantastic job? They have held office for the past 12 out of 16 years. A majority of people believe they are worse off today than they were in 2020. Why are so many people moving to red states? The definition of insanity is continuing to do the same thing over and over again expecting different results.

Because of the pandemic, world-wide supply chain, etc.

People would be in an even worse place if Trump had won in 2020. Ds gave us a soft landing. Just look at how the US is recovering compared to other countries.

Well people who understand economics and can read and process real news understand that. But majority of the 51% don't understand that and don't want to.

That is really condescending. The entire globe suffered from inflation. It was not as bad in the United States as it was in other places. That is not impossible or even that difficult to grasp.

Except apparently it is.

But who cares how stupid they are. What matters is reaching them with an effective message. Meet them where they are. We apparently didn't do that this time, and now we have what we have.

Who cares. Inflation is 100% Trump's problem to fix now, and he promised he would fix it.

Right, all while lowering taxes, deporting people, raising tariffs, and lowering the costs of consumer goods.

Really interested in seeing how this is going to work.

On day one! Oh, and they’ll let him do it, because when you’re a celebrity, they let you do anything.

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Anonymous wrote:And here we go.

Several companies are already digging into their year-end cash to buy supplies and components in advance of the coming tariffs.

For my own company we're trying to buy an entire years' worth of certain components to get ahead of the curve. We're having to do this so we can honor contract pricing for current customers.

And no, the exporters do not pay the tariff, despite what Trump says.

Will you still get your year-end bonus?

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Anonymous wrote:We live in a different America clearly, and the disgusting trash won.

But I so wish for it all to work out just as we know it will. Let them lose their healthcare and social security and welfare. Let them all get deported, every single one of them. Let our stocks go up while they wallow in their paycheck to paycheck. Let their families go hungry and sick. Let Musk cut the government in half, all of it. Let their women bleed out in hospitals.

We will be fine but I cannot wait, cannot I tell you, for them to reap what they sow.

Very typical thinking for progressives. You want the "other" to suffer while your stocks go up. Everyone senses your hatred. And you are not winning elections with your spite.

So what should we do? Storming the Capitol? Telling the rally goers s to shoot our opponents? Shoot the press? Punch an old lady?

Rethink your policies.

Pity, I thought the storming part could be fun, like partying?

What policy? You mean get a white dictator as candidate?

Immigration for one

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Anonymous wrote:We live in a different America clearly, and the disgusting trash won.

But I so wish for it all to work out just as we know it will. Let them lose their healthcare and social security and welfare. Let them all get deported, every single one of them. Let our stocks go up while they wallow in their paycheck to paycheck. Let their families go hungry and sick. Let Musk cut the government in half, all of it. Let their women bleed out in hospitals.

We will be fine but I cannot wait, cannot I tell you, for them to reap what they sow.

I feel somewhat the same. I’m sick over this but ultimately it’s not going to affect my life. It’ll mostly hurt the people who voted for him.

Except for women. This is tragic for all women and girls (and men who actually care about them), regardless of their economic position or political persuasion.

Well then the women (and men who actually care about them) in red state should have voted in their own self interest. Women in blue states will be fine and wealthy women everywhere will be fine.

You understand that federal legislation affects everyone, right? Even women in blue states?

Are they going to take my passport too? Are we North Korea now? Do explain.

I'll be happy to explain. Perhaps you should read the articles about the women who died because doctors would not provide the life-saving reproductive medical care in time. These were adult women with wanted pregnancies. These weren't abortions that they had time to seek overseas or even in another state. They were denied EMERGENCY medical care. Let that sink in. I have no idea how those women vote. The point is that all women, even those with passports, will suffer if they need emergency care that has been outlawed by federal legislation introduced and passed by a Republican Congress, signed by Trump, and upheld by the Republican Supreme Court. I hope that is clear enough for you.

And the family voted for Trump.

How do you know they voted for Drumpf

It was on the Texas subreddit.

Wow. Her family did not like or love her. That’s just an inconvenient truth. Disposable. So sad, but women are treated like this in so many cultures. A thing. A commodity. A possession that can be replaced. On to the next one.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this knee jerk attitude so popular right now?
I called my mom to commiserate and she said the same things about keeping our chins up, we'll be great, they'll suffer and maybe learn their lesson.
Maybe it's just a fleeting sentiment and will fade, I hope. I told her dd and many other young women will suffer too, we won't be fine and dandy.
I don't think I want to see the struggling LC people get a harsher blow, even if they do parrot the vile propaganda. The MC/UMC trumpsters, I feel more indifferent to, they could handle taking their medicine but even then, the suffering to come from deregulation and program cuts (especially in health care and elder care) is a bit too much karma.

People are just venting. When you see someone drawing, you will always help. You don't give an F what party they belong.

Not anymore.

I can see people would no longer drive to NYC to help New Yorkers after 9/11, but I can't see people let other people drawn. I am from a f-ed up country and we still save lives.

When you try to save a drowning person, they typically drown you trying to step on your head. Food for thought.

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Anonymous wrote:We live in a different America clearly, and the disgusting trash won.

But I so wish for it all to work out just as we know it will. Let them lose their healthcare and social security and welfare. Let them all get deported, every single one of them. Let our stocks go up while they wallow in their paycheck to paycheck. Let their families go hungry and sick. Let Musk cut the government in half, all of it. Let their women bleed out in hospitals.

We will be fine but I cannot wait, cannot I tell you, for them to reap what they sow.

I feel somewhat the same. I’m sick over this but ultimately it’s not going to affect my life. It’ll mostly hurt the people who voted for him.

+1. Its just mental health preservation. I just can't care any more about people who don't want my help. Trump can help them. I'm sure it will work out great! I give up.

Yup just to preserve my own sanity. No marches and pointless organizing. I will vote when the time comes.

It will be horrible but gonna focus inward (local community, family) not outward.