American surfer kills his young son & daughter in Mexico then returns to the USA

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The people who have lost any sense of reality on this thread are the people who make a big emphasis on that this man was apparently possibly a Trump supporter.

He was a man with mental problems that has nothing to do with politics.

Look, some very tragic deaths happened in Baltimore recently. Young children killed by family members. Including a pair that were left in a car trunk by their aunt for, what, a year, before discovery. Do we want to speculate whether or not she was a Democratic supporter (given the stats for urban black voters)? No. It's not the point.

I would typically agree but in this case the killer was citing Qanon conspiracies as to why he was committing the murders

+1

Trumpism/Qanon is important here.

And if the baltimore killer was quoting some bizarre Obama conspiracy as to why she killed the kids yes I’d blame extremist politics for that too

False equivalence.

There is NOT a conspiracy theory ring supported by current D politicians and millions of D voters.

Cool it people.

How many children have been killed by their parents quoting whoever QAnon is? Is there a pattern of cult deaths?

No.

Good lord, the reasoning and logic on this thread is astonishing.

The man had major mental problems. It's no different from any other situations where family members kill children or parents or spouses.

It's sad and tragic, but rushing to blame it on your favorite bogeyman is hardly helpful and speaks more about you than it does about the man and his horrible deeds.

This mom killed her three children to save them from sex trafficking.
Reseda mom who admitted to drowning her 3 children had posted about depression, QAnon-style conspiracies
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/reseda-mom-who-admitted-to-drowning-her-3-children-had-posted-about-depression-qanon-style-conspiracies/

This is tragic. But everyone saying to get help for these people should read the article. The father of the kids was trying to get custody and kept filing with the court that he was concerned for the kids’ well being. CPS was notified. The dad had custody one day every two weeks. That is also on our social services system.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people who have lost any sense of reality on this thread are the people who make a big emphasis on that this man was apparently possibly a Trump supporter.

He was a man with mental problems that has nothing to do with politics.

Look, some very tragic deaths happened in Baltimore recently. Young children killed by family members. Including a pair that were left in a car trunk by their aunt for, what, a year, before discovery. Do we want to speculate whether or not she was a Democratic supporter (given the stats for urban black voters)? No. It's not the point.

I would typically agree but in this case the killer was citing Qanon conspiracies as to why he was committing the murders

+1

Trumpism/Qanon is important here.

And if the baltimore killer was quoting some bizarre Obama conspiracy as to why she killed the kids yes I’d blame extremist politics for that too

False equivalence.

There is NOT a conspiracy theory ring supported by current D politicians and millions of D voters.

Cool it people.

How many children have been killed by their parents quoting whoever QAnon is? Is there a pattern of cult deaths?

No.

Good lord, the reasoning and logic on this thread is astonishing.

The man had major mental problems. It's no different from any other situations where family members kill children or parents or spouses.

It's sad and tragic, but rushing to blame it on your favorite bogeyman is hardly helpful and speaks more about you than it does about the man and his horrible deeds.

It is a trend and it’s accelerating.

79 individuals have committed crimes “motivated” by QAnon as of March 2021.

Remember, Trump was supposed to return to power this month, per QAnon online propaganda. We should anticipate more QAnon related crimes in the coming weeks.

Academics at University of Maryland are tracking it:
https://www.start.umd.edu/sites/default/files/publications/local_attachments/START%20QAnon%20Research%20Brief_5_26.pdf

Trump was supposed to return to power tomorrow. Its the full moon for the QAnon nuts.

[Anonymous]

I would have panicked immediately too. Especially because he apparently didn’t take the younger child’s car seat with them. My husband would never take the kids somewhere without telling me (and let’s be honest he’d never take them somewhere alone without me unless it was a necessity.)

[Anonymous]

I'm surprised by all the people blaming the mom here. It's like when when a women gets raped or abused and people ask her what she was wearing or what she did to aggravate the abuser. Or targeting learning and behavior programs at the women who are being affected by abuse/rape rather than at the men who are causing it. It's the men who are causing the problem and the men who should be treated and studied and blamed. Let's put the blame where it really belongs.

(Of course we can have support programs for the women who are victimized, but let's not forget that it's the perpetrator of the violence and abuse that has caused the problem and deserves the blame.)

How much further would we be as a society if in addition to education about domestic violence and the cycles of violence for victims of abuse, there were actual programs for people at risk of committing domestic violence that were part of our every day life? Programs about how to deescalate your feelings of anger and control your behavior? Instead of just teaching women about exactly which point in a cycle of violence is the best one to try to escape your abuser?

[Anonymous]

Like, it's our own fault for teaching about rape and domestic violence as somehow being women's issues! They are really primarily men's issues! But somehow they get minimized in our culture as a female concern. That's actually the whole problem!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people who have lost any sense of reality on this thread are the people who make a big emphasis on that this man was apparently possibly a Trump supporter.

He was a man with mental problems that has nothing to do with politics.

Look, some very tragic deaths happened in Baltimore recently. Young children killed by family members. Including a pair that were left in a car trunk by their aunt for, what, a year, before discovery. Do we want to speculate whether or not she was a Democratic supporter (given the stats for urban black voters)? No. It's not the point.

I would typically agree but in this case the killer was citing Qanon conspiracies as to why he was committing the murders

+1

Trumpism/Qanon is important here.

And if the baltimore killer was quoting some bizarre Obama conspiracy as to why she killed the kids yes I’d blame extremist politics for that too

False equivalence.

There is NOT a conspiracy theory ring supported by current D politicians and millions of D voters.

Cool it people.

How many children have been killed by their parents quoting whoever QAnon is? Is there a pattern of cult deaths?

No.

Good lord, the reasoning and logic on this thread is astonishing.

The man had major mental problems. It's no different from any other situations where family members kill children or parents or spouses.

It's sad and tragic, but rushing to blame it on your favorite bogeyman is hardly helpful and speaks more about you than it does about the man and his horrible deeds.

It is a trend and it’s accelerating.

79 individuals have committed crimes “motivated” by QAnon as of March 2021.

Remember, Trump was supposed to return to power this month, per QAnon online propaganda. We should anticipate more QAnon related crimes in the coming weeks.

Academics at University of Maryland are tracking it:
https://www.start.umd.edu/sites/default/files/publications/local_attachments/START%20QAnon%20Research%20Brief_5_26.pdf

Trump was supposed to return to power tomorrow. Its the full moon for the QAnon nuts.

I don't know who the bigger nuts are, the QAnon people or the people who think QAnon poses a real threat.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:trumper for sure. Scum.

I’m not sure. Sounds like he had a mental break. This story is so sad.

No he is a Trumper Qanon person.

He said he knew it was wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:trumper for sure. Scum.

Don't jump to conclusions

Have you ever met a Democrat who believes in that QAnon bs?

Never met anyone sane who believes that stuff, and that guy was sadly, not sane.

No he was not insane.

He knew it was wrong. He was tricked by the right wing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people who have lost any sense of reality on this thread are the people who make a big emphasis on that this man was apparently possibly a Trump supporter.

He was a man with mental problems that has nothing to do with politics.

Look, some very tragic deaths happened in Baltimore recently. Young children killed by family members. Including a pair that were left in a car trunk by their aunt for, what, a year, before discovery. Do we want to speculate whether or not she was a Democratic supporter (given the stats for urban black voters)? No. It's not the point.

I would typically agree but in this case the killer was citing Qanon conspiracies as to why he was committing the murders

+1

Trumpism/Qanon is important here.

And if the baltimore killer was quoting some bizarre Obama conspiracy as to why she killed the kids yes I’d blame extremist politics for that too

False equivalence.

There is NOT a conspiracy theory ring supported by current D politicians and millions of D voters.

Cool it people.

How many children have been killed by their parents quoting whoever QAnon is? Is there a pattern of cult deaths?

No.

Good lord, the reasoning and logic on this thread is astonishing.

The man had major mental problems. It's no different from any other situations where family members kill children or parents or spouses.

It's sad and tragic, but rushing to blame it on your favorite bogeyman is hardly helpful and speaks more about you than it does about the man and his horrible deeds.

This mom killed her three children to save them from sex trafficking.
Reseda mom who admitted to drowning her 3 children had posted about depression, QAnon-style conspiracies
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/reseda-mom-who-admitted-to-drowning-her-3-children-had-posted-about-depression-qanon-style-conspiracies/

This is tragic. But everyone saying to get help for these people should read the article. The father of the kids was trying to get custody and kept filing with the court that he was concerned for the kids’ well being. CPS was notified. The dad had custody one day every two weeks. That is also on our social services system.

I agree that no trump supporters should raise kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people who have lost any sense of reality on this thread are the people who make a big emphasis on that this man was apparently possibly a Trump supporter.

He was a man with mental problems that has nothing to do with politics.

Look, some very tragic deaths happened in Baltimore recently. Young children killed by family members. Including a pair that were left in a car trunk by their aunt for, what, a year, before discovery. Do we want to speculate whether or not she was a Democratic supporter (given the stats for urban black voters)? No. It's not the point.

I would typically agree but in this case the killer was citing Qanon conspiracies as to why he was committing the murders

+1

Trumpism/Qanon is important here.

And if the baltimore killer was quoting some bizarre Obama conspiracy as to why she killed the kids yes I’d blame extremist politics for that too

False equivalence.

There is NOT a conspiracy theory ring supported by current D politicians and millions of D voters.

Cool it people.

How many children have been killed by their parents quoting whoever QAnon is? Is there a pattern of cult deaths?

No.

Good lord, the reasoning and logic on this thread is astonishing.

The man had major mental problems. It's no different from any other situations where family members kill children or parents or spouses.

It's sad and tragic, but rushing to blame it on your favorite bogeyman is hardly helpful and speaks more about you than it does about the man and his horrible deeds.

It is a trend and it’s accelerating.

79 individuals have committed crimes “motivated” by QAnon as of March 2021.

Remember, Trump was supposed to return to power this month, per QAnon online propaganda. We should anticipate more QAnon related crimes in the coming weeks.

Academics at University of Maryland are tracking it:
https://www.start.umd.edu/sites/default/files/publications/local_attachments/START%20QAnon%20Research%20Brief_5_26.pdf

Trump was supposed to return to power tomorrow. Its the full moon for the QAnon nuts.

I don't know who the bigger nuts are, the QAnon people or the people who think QAnon poses a real threat.

Well, there’s now at least 5 kids murdered by their parents because they believed this QAnon gibberish promoted by Republican elites. It’s a threat, in the same way Islamic jihad is a threat. It thrives on stochastic terror.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would have panicked immediately too. Especially because he apparently didn’t take the younger child’s car seat with them. My husband would never take the kids somewhere without telling me (and let’s be honest he’d never take them somewhere alone without me unless it was a necessity.)

Don't you have to wait 24 hours though? Isn't that what the cops will tell you? Especially when it's the other parent?

[Anonymous]

I wonder whether he will ever be sufficiently medicated to understand what he did.

I know someone it happened to (she'd had postpartum psychosis); she committed suicide in jail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people who have lost any sense of reality on this thread are the people who make a big emphasis on that this man was apparently possibly a Trump supporter.

He was a man with mental problems that has nothing to do with politics.

Look, some very tragic deaths happened in Baltimore recently. Young children killed by family members. Including a pair that were left in a car trunk by their aunt for, what, a year, before discovery. Do we want to speculate whether or not she was a Democratic supporter (given the stats for urban black voters)? No. It's not the point.

I would typically agree but in this case the killer was citing Qanon conspiracies as to why he was committing the murders

+1

Trumpism/Qanon is important here.

And if the baltimore killer was quoting some bizarre Obama conspiracy as to why she killed the kids yes I’d blame extremist politics for that too

This is really the thing, right? If she quoted some Obama conspiracy theory you'd probably NOT blame extremist politics because there aren't really any Obama-affiliated radical groups. The thing is that Trump is a creature of Q and of all those gross, dangerous conspiracy theories - so of course when those adherents commit violent acts citing Q as their reason, then it ties into politics. If Republicans and Trump had strongly denounced Qanon and it was just some fringey thing that crazy people believe then it might not be tied back to politics. It's that this insane thing is PART of the Republican part that makes it all so entangled and weird and especially awful.

Even more mindblowing is that there are MULTIPLE extremist groups tied to multiple murders being espoused by the mainstream Republican party.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people who have lost any sense of reality on this thread are the people who make a big emphasis on that this man was apparently possibly a Trump supporter.

He was a man with mental problems that has nothing to do with politics.

Look, some very tragic deaths happened in Baltimore recently. Young children killed by family members. Including a pair that were left in a car trunk by their aunt for, what, a year, before discovery. Do we want to speculate whether or not she was a Democratic supporter (given the stats for urban black voters)? No. It's not the point.

I would typically agree but in this case the killer was citing Qanon conspiracies as to why he was committing the murders

+1

Trumpism/Qanon is important here.

And if the baltimore killer was quoting some bizarre Obama conspiracy as to why she killed the kids yes I’d blame extremist politics for that too

False equivalence.

There is NOT a conspiracy theory ring supported by current D politicians and millions of D voters.

Cool it people.

How many children have been killed by their parents quoting whoever QAnon is? Is there a pattern of cult deaths?

No.

Good lord, the reasoning and logic on this thread is astonishing.

The man had major mental problems. It's no different from any other situations where family members kill children or parents or spouses.

It's sad and tragic, but rushing to blame it on your favorite bogeyman is hardly helpful and speaks more about you than it does about the man and his horrible deeds.

It is a trend and it’s accelerating.

79 individuals have committed crimes “motivated” by QAnon as of March 2021.

Remember, Trump was supposed to return to power this month, per QAnon online propaganda. We should anticipate more QAnon related crimes in the coming weeks.

Academics at University of Maryland are tracking it:
https://www.start.umd.edu/sites/default/files/publications/local_attachments/START%20QAnon%20Research%20Brief_5_26.pdf

Trump was supposed to return to power tomorrow. Its the full moon for the QAnon nuts.

I don't know who the bigger nuts are, the QAnon people or the people who think QAnon poses a real threat.

Well, there’s now at least 5 kids murdered by their parents because they believed this QAnon gibberish promoted by Republican elites. It’s a threat, in the same way Islamic jihad is a threat. It thrives on stochastic terror.

Plus multiple bombings or attempted bombings, shootings and attempted shootings...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people who have lost any sense of reality on this thread are the people who make a big emphasis on that this man was apparently possibly a Trump supporter.

He was a man with mental problems that has nothing to do with politics.

Look, some very tragic deaths happened in Baltimore recently. Young children killed by family members. Including a pair that were left in a car trunk by their aunt for, what, a year, before discovery. Do we want to speculate whether or not she was a Democratic supporter (given the stats for urban black voters)? No. It's not the point.

I would typically agree but in this case the killer was citing Qanon conspiracies as to why he was committing the murders

+1

Trumpism/Qanon is important here.

And if the baltimore killer was quoting some bizarre Obama conspiracy as to why she killed the kids yes I’d blame extremist politics for that too

False equivalence.

There is NOT a conspiracy theory ring supported by current D politicians and millions of D voters.

Cool it people.

How many children have been killed by their parents quoting whoever QAnon is? Is there a pattern of cult deaths?

No.

Good lord, the reasoning and logic on this thread is astonishing.

The man had major mental problems. It's no different from any other situations where family members kill children or parents or spouses.

It's sad and tragic, but rushing to blame it on your favorite bogeyman is hardly helpful and speaks more about you than it does about the man and his horrible deeds.

It is a trend and it’s accelerating.

79 individuals have committed crimes “motivated” by QAnon as of March 2021.

Remember, Trump was supposed to return to power this month, per QAnon online propaganda. We should anticipate more QAnon related crimes in the coming weeks.

Academics at University of Maryland are tracking it:
https://www.start.umd.edu/sites/default/files/publications/local_attachments/START%20QAnon%20Research%20Brief_5_26.pdf

Trump was supposed to return to power tomorrow. Its the full moon for the QAnon nuts.

I don't know who the bigger nuts are, the QAnon people or the people who think QAnon poses a real threat.

So you think the attack on the Capitol on Jan 6 was no big deal?