Unvaccinated Students & School Closures

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The OP's point is that the unvaxxed are hurting the educational attainmnent of the vaxxed, by leading to more school shut-downs. The OP would like schools to stay open. The suggested solution is to keep the unvaxxed off school grounds. But, if you don't allow unvaxxed kids to learn in person, you should also not allow unvaxxed teacher to teach in person. Probably not allowing the unvaxxed teachers to teach in person will hurt school reopening (and will impact the vaxxed kids' education). Ergo, only allowing the vaxxed on school grounds doesn't actually help the OP's desire to have consistent in-person learning for kids.

The Mayor's order makes clear that teachers gotta show up for work. Wear a mask or get vaccinated is the new rule. The status to the kids is irrelevant to the Mayor's Order with regard to teachers.

[Anonymous]

When it comes to quarantine it won’t matter if your teacher is vaccinated or not. We had quarantined at my school and I was vaccinated. The kids still went home. I had to teach from my classroom alone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When it comes to quarantine it won’t matter if your teacher is vaccinated or not. We had quarantined at my school and I was vaccinated. The kids still went home. I had to teach from my classroom alone.

There is no quarantine, Sherlock. Get off your couch and report.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The OP's point is that the unvaxxed are hurting the educational attainmnent of the vaxxed, by leading to more school shut-downs. The OP would like schools to stay open. The suggested solution is to keep the unvaxxed off school grounds. But, if you don't allow unvaxxed kids to learn in person, you should also not allow unvaxxed teacher to teach in person. Probably not allowing the unvaxxed teachers to teach in person will hurt school reopening (and will impact the vaxxed kids' education). Ergo, only allowing the vaxxed on school grounds doesn't actually help the OP's desire to have consistent in-person learning for kids.

The Mayor's order makes clear that teachers gotta show up for work. Wear a mask or get vaccinated is the new rule. The status to the kids is irrelevant to the Mayor's Order with regard to teachers.

Oh, for sure, the teachers should show up, vaxxed or not. The unvaxxed teachers are also going to cause the same issues as the unvaxxed students. (E.g., greater likelihood than their vaxxed peers of having covid and exposing the class, greater likelihood of creating an exposure-based quarantine).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When it comes to quarantine it won’t matter if your teacher is vaccinated or not. We had quarantined at my school and I was vaccinated. The kids still went home. I had to teach from my classroom alone.

Well, if DCHealth / OSSE follow CDC guidelines eventually the vaccinated wouldn't have to quarantine. Meaning you could continue to teach in person.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When it comes to quarantine it won’t matter if your teacher is vaccinated or not. We had quarantined at my school and I was vaccinated. The kids still went home. I had to teach from my classroom alone.

There is no quarantine, Sherlock. Get off your couch and report.

There are still exposure-based quarantines, Watson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:why would middle and high schools close when there is a positive case? CDC guidance says vaccinated people don't have to quarantine when exposed. Send the unvaccinated home and let the sane, vaccinated students continue their education.

Fauci just said the other day that vaccinated people can spread Covid, particularly the delta variant. If true, that means there is no logic to allowing vaccinated without masks and unvaccinated with when you are talking about indoors for hours with the same people in which circumstances spread is more readily likely even at low virus rates

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:why would middle and high schools close when there is a positive case? CDC guidance says vaccinated people don't have to quarantine when exposed. Send the unvaccinated home and let the sane, vaccinated students continue their education.

Fauci just said the other day that vaccinated people can spread Covid, particularly the delta variant. If true, that means there is no logic to allowing vaccinated without masks and unvaccinated with when you are talking about indoors for hours with the same people in which circumstances spread is more readily likely even at low virus rates

You're in no position to question the Mayor's order. Teachers must report, vaccinated or not. There is no quarantine any more. The jig us up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:why would middle and high schools close when there is a positive case? CDC guidance says vaccinated people don't have to quarantine when exposed. Send the unvaccinated home and let the sane, vaccinated students continue their education.

Fauci just said the other day that vaccinated people can spread Covid, particularly the delta variant. If true, that means there is no logic to allowing vaccinated without masks and unvaccinated with when you are talking about indoors for hours with the same people in which circumstances spread is more readily likely even at low virus rates

I'm not disagreeing with the facts of what you said (that vaxxed people can carry and spread covid), but the probability of vaxxed people carrying and spreading covid is much lower. There has to come a point where we decide the that the risk is low enough that we relax certain rules.

I don't know what that is wrt the delta variant, but I'm taking cues from the CDC rather than adopting a zero-risk approach, myself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:why would middle and high schools close when there is a positive case? CDC guidance says vaccinated people don't have to quarantine when exposed. Send the unvaccinated home and let the sane, vaccinated students continue their education.

Fauci just said the other day that vaccinated people can spread Covid, particularly the delta variant. If true, that means there is no logic to allowing vaccinated without masks and unvaccinated with when you are talking about indoors for hours with the same people in which circumstances spread is more readily likely even at low virus rates

You're in no position to question the Mayor's order. Teachers must report, vaccinated or not. There is no quarantine any more. The jig us up.

Friend, I think you are perceiving something that isn't there. The educators that at least are commenting on this thread have no where suggested they are not coming in to work in the Fall.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:why would middle and high schools close when there is a positive case? CDC guidance says vaccinated people don't have to quarantine when exposed. Send the unvaccinated home and let the sane, vaccinated students continue their education.

This is a DCPS policy.

That is a pre-vaccination policy. I don't believe DCPS has updated its policies for this school year. Still waiting for DOH to issue new guidance following the CDC new guidance.

Actually how would it work if there are different quarantine rules for the vaccinated and unvaccinated? One would have to disclose vaccination status, but that brings privacy concerns. So why not just lie if one is unvaccinated? Since we won't be able to know who is vaccinated or not, and given that some people will lie about being vaccinated, that means erring on the side of safety and making everyone quarantine.

Schools have been collecting student vaccination info since forever. There has never been privacy concerns about your school knowing you got your tdap booster at age 11. I dont see why covid vaccine info would be any different. If there is a covid outbreak in a school, unvaccinated students should quarantine away, obviously, for their health and safety. Vaccinated students shouldn’t have to worry.

[Anonymous]

No more quarantining. Please.
Teachers, students, anyone.

We have got to move on with life.
I sincerely hope that if one of my kids has covid exposure they DO NOT report it. This has gone on way too long.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:why would middle and high schools close when there is a positive case? CDC guidance says vaccinated people don't have to quarantine when exposed. Send the unvaccinated home and let the sane, vaccinated students continue their education.

Fauci just said the other day that vaccinated people can spread Covid, particularly the delta variant. If true, that means there is no logic to allowing vaccinated without masks and unvaccinated with when you are talking about indoors for hours with the same people in which circumstances spread is more readily likely even at low virus rates

You're in no position to question the Mayor's order. Teachers must report, vaccinated or not. There is no quarantine any more. The jig us up.

Friend, I think you are perceiving something that isn't there. The educators that at least are commenting on this thread have no where suggested they are not coming in to work in the Fall.

Then it's simply a whine-fest without any purpose other than hot air. Give your mattress a break and report.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:why would middle and high schools close when there is a positive case? CDC guidance says vaccinated people don't have to quarantine when exposed. Send the unvaccinated home and let the sane, vaccinated students continue their education.

This is a DCPS policy.

That is a pre-vaccination policy. I don't believe DCPS has updated its policies for this school year. Still waiting for DOH to issue new guidance following the CDC new guidance.

Actually how would it work if there are different quarantine rules for the vaccinated and unvaccinated? One would have to disclose vaccination status, but that brings privacy concerns. So why not just lie if one is unvaccinated? Since we won't be able to know who is vaccinated or not, and given that some people will lie about being vaccinated, that means erring on the side of safety and making everyone quarantine.

Schools have been collecting student vaccination info since forever. There has never been privacy concerns about your school knowing you got your tdap booster at age 11. I dont see why covid vaccine info would be any different. If there is a covid outbreak in a school, unvaccinated students should quarantine away, obviously, for their health and safety. Vaccinated students shouldn’t have to worry.

Privacy concerns are among the teachers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:why would middle and high schools close when there is a positive case? CDC guidance says vaccinated people don't have to quarantine when exposed. Send the unvaccinated home and let the sane, vaccinated students continue their education.

This is a DCPS policy.

That is a pre-vaccination policy. I don't believe DCPS has updated its policies for this school year. Still waiting for DOH to issue new guidance following the CDC new guidance.

Actually how would it work if there are different quarantine rules for the vaccinated and unvaccinated? One would have to disclose vaccination status, but that brings privacy concerns. So why not just lie if one is unvaccinated? Since we won't be able to know who is vaccinated or not, and given that some people will lie about being vaccinated, that means erring on the side of safety and making everyone quarantine.

Schools have been collecting student vaccination info since forever. There has never been privacy concerns about your school knowing you got your tdap booster at age 11. I dont see why covid vaccine info would be any different. If there is a covid outbreak in a school, unvaccinated students should quarantine away, obviously, for their health and safety. Vaccinated students shouldn’t have to worry.

Privacy concerns are among the teachers.

The Mayor's Order dispenses with the privacy concerns and puts the burden on the teachers: show your proof of vaccination, then no mask required; no proof of vaccination, then you gots to wear the mask. Pretty simple stuff.