Is there a timeline to return to school for fcps

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Anonymous wrote:I have seen exactly ZERO teachers speak at the schoolboard meeting in favor or returning to school.

Most people with a career who are passionate about what they do for a living would advocate for much less. Teachers seem quite happy sitting on their asses.

No you're not doing a good job, no more than a surgeon can direct a patient over zoom to preform their own operation. Its a complete and utter failure and it is now no longer any mystery whatsoever why American kids are lagging behind in education.

I’m assuming you are homeschooling since you think teachers are useless...right?

My kids go to private, 5 days a week, in person.

Our private Catholic K-8 school is 200 yards from a FCPS elementary that has been vacant for almost a year now.

My wife and I are both FCPS K-12 grads, we moved here for the school and still hope to one day send them back to that now vacant school. But the prospect of that happening is growing smaller every day.

Okay, well bye! I don’t know why you are here if your kids don’t go to FCPS. Mine do and their teachers are incredible. Leadership....whew...

Like I said, we want our kids to go to FCPS. We moved here for FCPS. Both my wife and I are FCPS K-12 grades.

We didn't send our kids this year because why in gods name would we make a five year old go through virtual Kindergarten when there was another option available to us?

We hope to go back to FCPS because we think when open FCPS provide a better education then private. We value diversity and community. But right now FCPS is providing nothing more then a portal for teachers to play youtube clips through.

You say you think FCPS provides a better education, but you have 0 respect for the people who would be delivering that education.

Right now, no I do not.

I have yet to see a single concerted effort lead by staff to reopen schools. Until I see otherwise that's not only my opinion but the opinion of quite a bit of the general public.

Then, keep your kids in private. You make no sense. You want staff to organize to prove to you that they are working instead of working? If you don’t like FCPS, you have the option to continue in private.

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Anonymous wrote:To all the teachers who are saying they want to go back and their Union doesn't speak for you. I get it, and I 100% believe you.

But, the head of FEA (who spoke 1st again tonight at the SB meeting) has said they should not return to school until all children are vaccinated, which would be 2022 at the earliest. FEA may be small but they own half of the school board and the school board had been pushing the FEA agenda from day 1.

You say you are powerless?

I am in a union too (ALPA) and when my union started making unrealistic demands and in my mind embarrassing my profession I ran for Union leadership and changed the agenda). Until one of you do that and remove the ass clowns who lead FEA and FCFT then you are as responsible as them.

Maybe that's not fair, but if you want the insurance and the soon to happen collective bargaining then that's your burden.

Teacher associations are expensive, which is partly why teachers don't join. We can't lead change at the union level if we can't afford to join.

If you don't get involved then you don't get to push back when people blame teachers for the current situation.

You don't want to pay? Ok, then when people blame teachers for the current situation you have to sit and take it. You are in a position to make a change and chose not to. You can make all the excuses you want, but that's just how it is.

My dues are 2% of my salary, I make it work.

Or...here’s a wild idea. No. FEA has less than 3,000 members. They lack collective bargaining. They can SAY whatever they want. They have no actual power. Hell, I can say I’m a millionaire. It doesn’t mean I get a million dollars. Leadership also means you take a LOA from teaching, which effects retirement and healthcare. Most of us can’t afford to pay cobra prices, so parents can “stop blaming us.” So that’s a hard pass. Frankly, I don’t care who you all blame. When it comes time to go back, I’ll be there.

Fine, you don't want to put in the work.

That's your prerogative.

But when people take the FEA position to be the teacher position you don't get to push back because you didn't fight to change.

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Anonymous wrote:I have seen exactly ZERO teachers speak at the schoolboard meeting in favor or returning to school.

Most people with a career who are passionate about what they do for a living would advocate for much less. Teachers seem quite happy sitting on their asses.

No you're not doing a good job, no more than a surgeon can direct a patient over zoom to preform their own operation. Its a complete and utter failure and it is now no longer any mystery whatsoever why American kids are lagging behind in education.

I’m assuming you are homeschooling since you think teachers are useless...right?

My kids go to private, 5 days a week, in person.

Our private Catholic K-8 school is 200 yards from a FCPS elementary that has been vacant for almost a year now.

My wife and I are both FCPS K-12 grads, we moved here for the school and still hope to one day send them back to that now vacant school. But the prospect of that happening is growing smaller every day.

Okay, well bye! I don’t know why you are here if your kids don’t go to FCPS. Mine do and their teachers are incredible. Leadership....whew...

Like I said, we want our kids to go to FCPS. We moved here for FCPS. Both my wife and I are FCPS K-12 grades.

We didn't send our kids this year because why in gods name would we make a five year old go through virtual Kindergarten when there was another option available to us?

We hope to go back to FCPS because we think when open FCPS provide a better education then private. We value diversity and community. But right now FCPS is providing nothing more then a portal for teachers to play youtube clips through.

You said your kids don’t go to FCPS schools, so how do you know this. I have kids in two different schools and every single teacher has been incredible. My son got into an accident, and his teachers and counselors created a care package and dropped it off. They didn’t have to do that. You say you want your kids to go to FCPS, but I too don’t get why since you basically called it’s teachers lazy assholes?

Where is the teacher lead effort to reopen schools?

It's easy to come on here and say "FEA is dumb, I want to go back". Where is the organizing? Where is the messaging?

Right now, like it or not the word from teachers is they do not want to go back until 2022 when children are vaccinated. And until we here from some sort of associations that represents the will of teachers then that will continue to be the position of the teachers.

It's not on me to change that public opinion, its on the teachers.

I’d assume teachers are...working. I believe, and correct me teachers if I’m wrong, the message was made clear when there were few resignations and the FEA sick out went nowhere. If you are the PP, it sounds like your kids are in private. I’d like mine to actually have a teacher focused vs. organizing.

Union work is hard

Organizing is hard

Making a change is hard

If you don't want to do it that fine, it's hard.

But you don't get to say your union doesn't speak for you if you don't try to set the tone of the union.

So either sack up and make a difference, or don't fight back when you get blamed for your organizations faults.

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Anonymous wrote:To all the teachers who are saying they want to go back and their Union doesn't speak for you. I get it, and I 100% believe you.

But, the head of FEA (who spoke 1st again tonight at the SB meeting) has said they should not return to school until all children are vaccinated, which would be 2022 at the earliest. FEA may be small but they own half of the school board and the school board had been pushing the FEA agenda from day 1.

You say you are powerless?

I am in a union too (ALPA) and when my union started making unrealistic demands and in my mind embarrassing my profession I ran for Union leadership and changed the agenda). Until one of you do that and remove the ass clowns who lead FEA and FCFT then you are as responsible as them.

Maybe that's not fair, but if you want the insurance and the soon to happen collective bargaining then that's your burden.

Teacher associations are expensive, which is partly why teachers don't join. We can't lead change at the union level if we can't afford to join.

If you don't get involved then you don't get to push back when people blame teachers for the current situation.

You don't want to pay? Ok, then when people blame teachers for the current situation you have to sit and take it. You are in a position to make a change and chose not to. You can make all the excuses you want, but that's just how it is.

My dues are 2% of my salary, I make it work.

So when people say that the parents are doing a lousy job raising their children and that's part of the reason why education is failing, are you saying the parents don't have a valid reason to push back? Should the parents just sit there and take those comments?

Should they form a organization so that defending their ideas and viewpoints will be taken seriously?

Lastly, some of us live paycheck to paycheck. I'm glad that you can give 2% away, some can't. A few of us have to care for disabled family members and are saving for our child's future education and really don't have that extra money.

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Anonymous wrote:To all the teachers who are saying they want to go back and their Union doesn't speak for you. I get it, and I 100% believe you.

But, the head of FEA (who spoke 1st again tonight at the SB meeting) has said they should not return to school until all children are vaccinated, which would be 2022 at the earliest. FEA may be small but they own half of the school board and the school board had been pushing the FEA agenda from day 1.

You say you are powerless?

I am in a union too (ALPA) and when my union started making unrealistic demands and in my mind embarrassing my profession I ran for Union leadership and changed the agenda). Until one of you do that and remove the ass clowns who lead FEA and FCFT then you are as responsible as them.

Maybe that's not fair, but if you want the insurance and the soon to happen collective bargaining then that's your burden.

Teacher associations are expensive, which is partly why teachers don't join. We can't lead change at the union level if we can't afford to join.

If you don't get involved then you don't get to push back when people blame teachers for the current situation.

You don't want to pay? Ok, then when people blame teachers for the current situation you have to sit and take it. You are in a position to make a change and chose not to. You can make all the excuses you want, but that's just how it is.

My dues are 2% of my salary, I make it work.

Or...here’s a wild idea. No. FEA has less than 3,000 members. They lack collective bargaining. They can SAY whatever they want. They have no actual power. Hell, I can say I’m a millionaire. It doesn’t mean I get a million dollars. Leadership also means you take a LOA from teaching, which effects retirement and healthcare. Most of us can’t afford to pay cobra prices, so parents can “stop blaming us.” So that’s a hard pass. Frankly, I don’t care who you all blame. When it comes time to go back, I’ll be there.

Fine, you don't want to put in the work.

That's your prerogative.

But when people take the FEA position to be the teacher position you don't get to push back because you didn't fight to change.

As I said, I don’t care what position people take. You also don’t know what my efforts are to push for change.

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Anonymous wrote:I have seen exactly ZERO teachers speak at the schoolboard meeting in favor or returning to school.

Most people with a career who are passionate about what they do for a living would advocate for much less. Teachers seem quite happy sitting on their asses.

No you're not doing a good job, no more than a surgeon can direct a patient over zoom to preform their own operation. Its a complete and utter failure and it is now no longer any mystery whatsoever why American kids are lagging behind in education.

I’m assuming you are homeschooling since you think teachers are useless...right?

My kids go to private, 5 days a week, in person.

Our private Catholic K-8 school is 200 yards from a FCPS elementary that has been vacant for almost a year now.

My wife and I are both FCPS K-12 grads, we moved here for the school and still hope to one day send them back to that now vacant school. But the prospect of that happening is growing smaller every day.

Okay, well bye! I don’t know why you are here if your kids don’t go to FCPS. Mine do and their teachers are incredible. Leadership....whew...

Like I said, we want our kids to go to FCPS. We moved here for FCPS. Both my wife and I are FCPS K-12 grades.

We didn't send our kids this year because why in gods name would we make a five year old go through virtual Kindergarten when there was another option available to us?

We hope to go back to FCPS because we think when open FCPS provide a better education then private. We value diversity and community. But right now FCPS is providing nothing more then a portal for teachers to play youtube clips through.

You say you think FCPS provides a better education, but you have 0 respect for the people who would be delivering that education.

Right now, no I do not.

I have yet to see a single concerted effort lead by staff to reopen schools. Until I see otherwise that's not only my opinion but the opinion of quite a bit of the general public.

Then, keep your kids in private. You make no sense. You want staff to organize to prove to you that they are working instead of working? If you don’t like FCPS, you have the option to continue in private.

Yes, I would expect teachers to change the tone of their union if they don't like what their union is saying, that's how unions work.

Yes it is extra work, yes it is hard.

But if you aren't willing to put in the work then you don't get to abscond blame.

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Anonymous wrote:I have seen exactly ZERO teachers speak at the schoolboard meeting in favor or returning to school.

Most people with a career who are passionate about what they do for a living would advocate for much less. Teachers seem quite happy sitting on their asses.

No you're not doing a good job, no more than a surgeon can direct a patient over zoom to preform their own operation. Its a complete and utter failure and it is now no longer any mystery whatsoever why American kids are lagging behind in education.

I’m assuming you are homeschooling since you think teachers are useless...right?

My kids go to private, 5 days a week, in person.

Our private Catholic K-8 school is 200 yards from a FCPS elementary that has been vacant for almost a year now.

My wife and I are both FCPS K-12 grads, we moved here for the school and still hope to one day send them back to that now vacant school. But the prospect of that happening is growing smaller every day.

Okay, well bye! I don’t know why you are here if your kids don’t go to FCPS. Mine do and their teachers are incredible. Leadership....whew...

Like I said, we want our kids to go to FCPS. We moved here for FCPS. Both my wife and I are FCPS K-12 grades.

We didn't send our kids this year because why in gods name would we make a five year old go through virtual Kindergarten when there was another option available to us?

We hope to go back to FCPS because we think when open FCPS provide a better education then private. We value diversity and community. But right now FCPS is providing nothing more then a portal for teachers to play youtube clips through.

You say you think FCPS provides a better education, but you have 0 respect for the people who would be delivering that education.

Right now, no I do not.

I have yet to see a single concerted effort lead by staff to reopen schools. Until I see otherwise that's not only my opinion but the opinion of quite a bit of the general public.

Then, keep your kids in private. You make no sense. You want staff to organize to prove to you that they are working instead of working? If you don’t like FCPS, you have the option to continue in private.

Yes, I would expect teachers to change the tone of their union if they don't like what their union is saying, that's how unions work.

Yes it is extra work, yes it is hard.

But if you aren't willing to put in the work then you don't get to abscond blame.

I’m not a teacher, which I mentioned. I think you sound deranged. Please stay in private.

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Anonymous wrote:I have seen exactly ZERO teachers speak at the schoolboard meeting in favor or returning to school.

Most people with a career who are passionate about what they do for a living would advocate for much less. Teachers seem quite happy sitting on their asses.

No you're not doing a good job, no more than a surgeon can direct a patient over zoom to preform their own operation. Its a complete and utter failure and it is now no longer any mystery whatsoever why American kids are lagging behind in education.

I’m assuming you are homeschooling since you think teachers are useless...right?

My kids go to private, 5 days a week, in person.

Our private Catholic K-8 school is 200 yards from a FCPS elementary that has been vacant for almost a year now.

My wife and I are both FCPS K-12 grads, we moved here for the school and still hope to one day send them back to that now vacant school. But the prospect of that happening is growing smaller every day.

Okay, well bye! I don’t know why you are here if your kids don’t go to FCPS. Mine do and their teachers are incredible. Leadership....whew...

Like I said, we want our kids to go to FCPS. We moved here for FCPS. Both my wife and I are FCPS K-12 grades.

We didn't send our kids this year because why in gods name would we make a five year old go through virtual Kindergarten when there was another option available to us?

We hope to go back to FCPS because we think when open FCPS provide a better education then private. We value diversity and community. But right now FCPS is providing nothing more then a portal for teachers to play youtube clips through.

You said your kids don’t go to FCPS schools, so how do you know this. I have kids in two different schools and every single teacher has been incredible. My son got into an accident, and his teachers and counselors created a care package and dropped it off. They didn’t have to do that. You say you want your kids to go to FCPS, but I too don’t get why since you basically called it’s teachers lazy assholes?

Where is the teacher lead effort to reopen schools?

It's easy to come on here and say "FEA is dumb, I want to go back". Where is the organizing? Where is the messaging?

Right now, like it or not the word from teachers is they do not want to go back until 2022 when children are vaccinated. And until we here from some sort of associations that represents the will of teachers then that will continue to be the position of the teachers.

It's not on me to change that public opinion, its on the teachers.

I’d assume teachers are...working. I believe, and correct me teachers if I’m wrong, the message was made clear when there were few resignations and the FEA sick out went nowhere. If you are the PP, it sounds like your kids are in private. I’d like mine to actually have a teacher focused vs. organizing.

Union work is hard

Organizing is hard

Making a change is hard

If you don't want to do it that fine, it's hard.

But you don't get to say your union doesn't speak for you if you don't try to set the tone of the union.

So either sack up and make a difference, or don't fight back when you get blamed for your organizations faults.

Teachers, the people on this anonymous forum do not validate you as a person, parent and/or a teacher. Honestly who cares what they say? Half of them are probably trolls anyways. Just keep doing the best job you can.

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Anonymous wrote:To all the teachers who are saying they want to go back and their Union doesn't speak for you. I get it, and I 100% believe you.

But, the head of FEA (who spoke 1st again tonight at the SB meeting) has said they should not return to school until all children are vaccinated, which would be 2022 at the earliest. FEA may be small but they own half of the school board and the school board had been pushing the FEA agenda from day 1.

You say you are powerless?

I am in a union too (ALPA) and when my union started making unrealistic demands and in my mind embarrassing my profession I ran for Union leadership and changed the agenda). Until one of you do that and remove the ass clowns who lead FEA and FCFT then you are as responsible as them.

Maybe that's not fair, but if you want the insurance and the soon to happen collective bargaining then that's your burden.

Teacher associations are expensive, which is partly why teachers don't join. We can't lead change at the union level if we can't afford to join.

If you don't get involved then you don't get to push back when people blame teachers for the current situation.

You don't want to pay? Ok, then when people blame teachers for the current situation you have to sit and take it. You are in a position to make a change and chose not to. You can make all the excuses you want, but that's just how it is.

My dues are 2% of my salary, I make it work.

Or...here’s a wild idea. No. FEA has less than 3,000 members. They lack collective bargaining. They can SAY whatever they want. They have no actual power. Hell, I can say I’m a millionaire. It doesn’t mean I get a million dollars. Leadership also means you take a LOA from teaching, which effects retirement and healthcare. Most of us can’t afford to pay cobra prices, so parents can “stop blaming us.” So that’s a hard pass. Frankly, I don’t care who you all blame. When it comes time to go back, I’ll be there.

Fine, you don't want to put in the work.

That's your prerogative.

But when people take the FEA position to be the teacher position you don't get to push back because you didn't fight to change.

As I said, I don’t care what position people take. You also don’t know what my efforts are to push for change.

No I don't, please tell me. I'm not joking. I hope and pray there is strong push back to FEA among the ranks of FCPS teachers, but from what I have seen there is none.

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Anonymous wrote:I have seen exactly ZERO teachers speak at the schoolboard meeting in favor or returning to school.

Most people with a career who are passionate about what they do for a living would advocate for much less. Teachers seem quite happy sitting on their asses.

No you're not doing a good job, no more than a surgeon can direct a patient over zoom to preform their own operation. Its a complete and utter failure and it is now no longer any mystery whatsoever why American kids are lagging behind in education.

I’m assuming you are homeschooling since you think teachers are useless...right?

My kids go to private, 5 days a week, in person.

Our private Catholic K-8 school is 200 yards from a FCPS elementary that has been vacant for almost a year now.

My wife and I are both FCPS K-12 grads, we moved here for the school and still hope to one day send them back to that now vacant school. But the prospect of that happening is growing smaller every day.

Okay, well bye! I don’t know why you are here if your kids don’t go to FCPS. Mine do and their teachers are incredible. Leadership....whew...

Like I said, we want our kids to go to FCPS. We moved here for FCPS. Both my wife and I are FCPS K-12 grades.

We didn't send our kids this year because why in gods name would we make a five year old go through virtual Kindergarten when there was another option available to us?

We hope to go back to FCPS because we think when open FCPS provide a better education then private. We value diversity and community. But right now FCPS is providing nothing more then a portal for teachers to play youtube clips through.

You say you think FCPS provides a better education, but you have 0 respect for the people who would be delivering that education.

Right now, no I do not.

I have yet to see a single concerted effort lead by staff to reopen schools. Until I see otherwise that's not only my opinion but the opinion of quite a bit of the general public.

Then, keep your kids in private. You make no sense. You want staff to organize to prove to you that they are working instead of working? If you don’t like FCPS, you have the option to continue in private.

Yes, I would expect teachers to change the tone of their union if they don't like what their union is saying, that's how unions work.

Yes it is extra work, yes it is hard.

But if you aren't willing to put in the work then you don't get to abscond blame.

I’m not a teacher, which I mentioned. I think you sound deranged. Please stay in private.

Agreed. It’s nice your kids benefit from private. I’d like my kids teachers focused on them and not “fighting the man.” We’ve been in FCPS a lonnnnng time. It’s Gatehouse.

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Anonymous wrote:I have seen exactly ZERO teachers speak at the schoolboard meeting in favor or returning to school.

Most people with a career who are passionate about what they do for a living would advocate for much less. Teachers seem quite happy sitting on their asses.

No you're not doing a good job, no more than a surgeon can direct a patient over zoom to preform their own operation. Its a complete and utter failure and it is now no longer any mystery whatsoever why American kids are lagging behind in education.

I’m assuming you are homeschooling since you think teachers are useless...right?

My kids go to private, 5 days a week, in person.

Our private Catholic K-8 school is 200 yards from a FCPS elementary that has been vacant for almost a year now.

My wife and I are both FCPS K-12 grads, we moved here for the school and still hope to one day send them back to that now vacant school. But the prospect of that happening is growing smaller every day.

Okay, well bye! I don’t know why you are here if your kids don’t go to FCPS. Mine do and their teachers are incredible. Leadership....whew...

Like I said, we want our kids to go to FCPS. We moved here for FCPS. Both my wife and I are FCPS K-12 grades.

We didn't send our kids this year because why in gods name would we make a five year old go through virtual Kindergarten when there was another option available to us?

We hope to go back to FCPS because we think when open FCPS provide a better education then private. We value diversity and community. But right now FCPS is providing nothing more then a portal for teachers to play youtube clips through.

You said your kids don’t go to FCPS schools, so how do you know this. I have kids in two different schools and every single teacher has been incredible. My son got into an accident, and his teachers and counselors created a care package and dropped it off. They didn’t have to do that. You say you want your kids to go to FCPS, but I too don’t get why since you basically called it’s teachers lazy assholes?

Where is the teacher lead effort to reopen schools?

It's easy to come on here and say "FEA is dumb, I want to go back". Where is the organizing? Where is the messaging?

Right now, like it or not the word from teachers is they do not want to go back until 2022 when children are vaccinated. And until we here from some sort of associations that represents the will of teachers then that will continue to be the position of the teachers.

It's not on me to change that public opinion, its on the teachers.

I’d assume teachers are...working. I believe, and correct me teachers if I’m wrong, the message was made clear when there were few resignations and the FEA sick out went nowhere. If you are the PP, it sounds like your kids are in private. I’d like mine to actually have a teacher focused vs. organizing.

Union work is hard

Organizing is hard

Making a change is hard

If you don't want to do it that fine, it's hard.

But you don't get to say your union doesn't speak for you if you don't try to set the tone of the union.

So either sack up and make a difference, or don't fight back when you get blamed for your organizations faults.

Teachers, the people on this anonymous forum do not validate you as a person, parent and/or a teacher. Honestly who cares what they say? Half of them are probably trolls anyways. Just keep doing the best job you can.

+100 this person doesn’t even have kids in FCPS.

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Apparently one will be presented at the SB meeting tonight sometime?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To all the teachers who are saying they want to go back and their Union doesn't speak for you. I get it, and I 100% believe you.

But, the head of FEA (who spoke 1st again tonight at the SB meeting) has said they should not return to school until all children are vaccinated, which would be 2022 at the earliest. FEA may be small but they own half of the school board and the school board had been pushing the FEA agenda from day 1.

You say you are powerless?

I am in a union too (ALPA) and when my union started making unrealistic demands and in my mind embarrassing my profession I ran for Union leadership and changed the agenda). Until one of you do that and remove the ass clowns who lead FEA and FCFT then you are as responsible as them.

Maybe that's not fair, but if you want the insurance and the soon to happen collective bargaining then that's your burden.

Teacher associations are expensive, which is partly why teachers don't join. We can't lead change at the union level if we can't afford to join.

If you don't get involved then you don't get to push back when people blame teachers for the current situation.

You don't want to pay? Ok, then when people blame teachers for the current situation you have to sit and take it. You are in a position to make a change and chose not to. You can make all the excuses you want, but that's just how it is.

My dues are 2% of my salary, I make it work.

So when people say that the parents are doing a lousy job raising their children and that's part of the reason why education is failing, are you saying the parents don't have a valid reason to push back? Should the parents just sit there and take those comments?

Should they form a organization so that defending their ideas and viewpoints will be taken seriously?

Lastly, some of us live paycheck to paycheck. I'm glad that you can give 2% away, some can't. A few of us have to care for disabled family members and are saving for our child's future education and really don't have that extra money.

Parents are not organized labor, so your first question makes no sense.

I believe OpenFCPS is the answer to your second, and I do hope they stick around after COVID to make sure parents input is taken more seriously when future school policies are created.

We can all make excuses for not participating. I too care for family members (my father passed from COVID last year, my mother lives with us and I cover most of her expenses) and am saving for my children's education (including paying for private school right now).

Like I said if you don't want to pay fine, but that payment if the cost of having your voice heard and you have chosen not to exercise it. Don't then get mad when people blame you and you don't get to yell back.

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Anonymous wrote:To all the teachers who are saying they want to go back and their Union doesn't speak for you. I get it, and I 100% believe you.

But, the head of FEA (who spoke 1st again tonight at the SB meeting) has said they should not return to school until all children are vaccinated, which would be 2022 at the earliest. FEA may be small but they own half of the school board and the school board had been pushing the FEA agenda from day 1.

You say you are powerless?

I am in a union too (ALPA) and when my union started making unrealistic demands and in my mind embarrassing my profession I ran for Union leadership and changed the agenda). Until one of you do that and remove the ass clowns who lead FEA and FCFT then you are as responsible as them.

Maybe that's not fair, but if you want the insurance and the soon to happen collective bargaining then that's your burden.

Teacher associations are expensive, which is partly why teachers don't join. We can't lead change at the union level if we can't afford to join.

If you don't get involved then you don't get to push back when people blame teachers for the current situation.

You don't want to pay? Ok, then when people blame teachers for the current situation you have to sit and take it. You are in a position to make a change and chose not to. You can make all the excuses you want, but that's just how it is.

My dues are 2% of my salary, I make it work.

So when people say that the parents are doing a lousy job raising their children and that's part of the reason why education is failing, are you saying the parents don't have a valid reason to push back? Should the parents just sit there and take those comments?

Should they form a organization so that defending their ideas and viewpoints will be taken seriously?

Lastly, some of us live paycheck to paycheck. I'm glad that you can give 2% away, some can't. A few of us have to care for disabled family members and are saving for our child's future education and really don't have that extra money.

Parents are not organized labor, so your first question makes no sense.

I believe OpenFCPS is the answer to your second, and I do hope they stick around after COVID to make sure parents input is taken more seriously when future school policies are created.

We can all make excuses for not participating. I too care for family members (my father passed from COVID last year, my mother lives with us and I cover most of her expenses) and am saving for my children's education (including paying for private school right now).

Like I said if you don't want to pay fine, but that payment if the cost of having your voice heard and you have chosen not to exercise it. Don't then get mad when people blame you and you don't get to yell back.

Teachers are just going to get yelled at no matter what they do. Many people in this group have already found an enemy to blame. So they might as well stay at home and enjoy it. 😄

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Between FEA and OpenFCPS, both sides of the spectrum are covered. Maybe one day they'll be a meeting in the middle - which would probably represents 80% of the teachers and parents.

FWIW, the loud voices in America these days are extremes and the silent majority doesn’t tend to get heard, because they aren’t speaking up.

Maybe the 80% should consider saying something.

I emailed my school board rep tonight and plan to contact my state legislators tomorrow.

I did join Open FCPS on facebook - yesterday - because it seems like one of the few sources for centralized information. I already have an issue with some of the rhetoric, even from the moderator, so remains to be seen if I will continue with it. I think the January plan should be implemented in February, no ifs, ands or buts.