Is there a timeline to return to school for fcps

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently one will be presented at the SB meeting tonight sometime?

Nope, tonight was 2 hours of talking about achievement gaps in minority students and half an hour of Langley boundary changes

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Anonymous wrote:To all the teachers who are saying they want to go back and their Union doesn't speak for you. I get it, and I 100% believe you.

But, the head of FEA (who spoke 1st again tonight at the SB meeting) has said they should not return to school until all children are vaccinated, which would be 2022 at the earliest. FEA may be small but they own half of the school board and the school board had been pushing the FEA agenda from day 1.

You say you are powerless?

I am in a union too (ALPA) and when my union started making unrealistic demands and in my mind embarrassing my profession I ran for Union leadership and changed the agenda). Until one of you do that and remove the ass clowns who lead FEA and FCFT then you are as responsible as them.

Maybe that's not fair, but if you want the insurance and the soon to happen collective bargaining then that's your burden.

Teacher associations are expensive, which is partly why teachers don't join. We can't lead change at the union level if we can't afford to join.

If you don't get involved then you don't get to push back when people blame teachers for the current situation.

You don't want to pay? Ok, then when people blame teachers for the current situation you have to sit and take it. You are in a position to make a change and chose not to. You can make all the excuses you want, but that's just how it is.

My dues are 2% of my salary, I make it work.

So when people say that the parents are doing a lousy job raising their children and that's part of the reason why education is failing, are you saying the parents don't have a valid reason to push back? Should the parents just sit there and take those comments?

Should they form a organization so that defending their ideas and viewpoints will be taken seriously?

Lastly, some of us live paycheck to paycheck. I'm glad that you can give 2% away, some can't. A few of us have to care for disabled family members and are saving for our child's future education and really don't have that extra money.

Parents are not organized labor, so your first question makes no sense.

I believe OpenFCPS is the answer to your second, and I do hope they stick around after COVID to make sure parents input is taken more seriously when future school policies are created.

We can all make excuses for not participating. I too care for family members (my father passed from COVID last year, my mother lives with us and I cover most of her expenses) and am saving for my children's education (including paying for private school right now).

Like I said if you don't want to pay fine, but that payment if the cost of having your voice heard and you have chosen not to exercise it. Don't then get mad when people blame you and you don't get to yell back.

Teachers are just going to get yelled at no matter what they do. Many people in this group have already found an enemy to blame. So they might as well stay at home and enjoy it. 😄

More excuses.....

I hope you expect more out of your students.

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I’m a teacher. I will go back when I’m asked to go back, but if they tell me I can teach from home forever I’d happily do that too. My job is to teach, that’s what I’m doing. My job is not to fight leadership about what that teaching should look like.

The idea that I’m a bad teacher because I’m not fighting the FEA rhetoric is ridiculous. I’m not an FEA member, I want nothing to do with it. I just want to write my lessons and teach my students, wherever the location is.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. I will go back when I’m asked to go back, but if they tell me I can teach from home forever I’d happily do that too. My job is to teach, that’s what I’m doing. My job is not to fight leadership about what that teaching should look like.

The idea that I’m a bad teacher because I’m not fighting the FEA rhetoric is ridiculous. I’m not an FEA member, I want nothing to do with it. I just want to write my lessons and teach my students, wherever the location is.

Don't call yourself a teacher and say you want to teach from home forever. That is not what teachers do. You're a disgrace.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. I will go back when I’m asked to go back, but if they tell me I can teach from home forever I’d happily do that too. My job is to teach, that’s what I’m doing. My job is not to fight leadership about what that teaching should look like.

The idea that I’m a bad teacher because I’m not fighting the FEA rhetoric is ridiculous. I’m not an FEA member, I want nothing to do with it. I just want to write my lessons and teach my students, wherever the location is.

I'm curious. What grade do you teach? I teach a primary grade and I don't know anybody who would make that statement.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. I will go back when I’m asked to go back, but if they tell me I can teach from home forever I’d happily do that too. My job is to teach, that’s what I’m doing. My job is not to fight leadership about what that teaching should look like.

The idea that I’m a bad teacher because I’m not fighting the FEA rhetoric is ridiculous. I’m not an FEA member, I want nothing to do with it. I just want to write my lessons and teach my students, wherever the location is.

I'm curious. What grade do you teach? I teach a primary grade and I don't know anybody who would make that statement.

My husband teaches middle school math and likes teaching from home. I told him fcps may offer more virtual learning in the future so go ahead and apply for a job doing it full time if he wants. He would go back whenever but likes it more than he thought.

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Anonymous wrote:I have seen exactly ZERO teachers speak at the schoolboard meeting in favor or returning to school.

Most people with a career who are passionate about what they do for a living would advocate for much less. Teachers seem quite happy sitting on their asses.

No you're not doing a good job, no more than a surgeon can direct a patient over zoom to preform their own operation. Its a complete and utter failure and it is now no longer any mystery whatsoever why American kids are lagging behind in education.

I’m assuming you are homeschooling since you think teachers are useless...right?

My kids go to private, 5 days a week, in person.

Our private Catholic K-8 school is 200 yards from a FCPS elementary that has been vacant for almost a year now.

My wife and I are both FCPS K-12 grads, we moved here for the school and still hope to one day send them back to that now vacant school. But the prospect of that happening is growing smaller every day.

Okay, well bye! I don’t know why you are here if your kids don’t go to FCPS. Mine do and their teachers are incredible. Leadership....whew...

Like I said, we want our kids to go to FCPS. We moved here for FCPS. Both my wife and I are FCPS K-12 grades.

We didn't send our kids this year because why in gods name would we make a five year old go through virtual Kindergarten when there was another option available to us?

We hope to go back to FCPS because we think when open FCPS provide a better education then private. We value diversity and community. But right now FCPS is providing nothing more then a portal for teachers to play youtube clips through.

You say you think FCPS provides a better education, but you have 0 respect for the people who would be delivering that education.

Right now, no I do not.

I have yet to see a single concerted effort lead by staff to reopen schools. Until I see otherwise that's not only my opinion but the opinion of quite a bit of the general public.

Then, keep your kids in private. You make no sense. You want staff to organize to prove to you that they are working instead of working? If you don’t like FCPS, you have the option to continue in private.

Yes, I would expect teachers to change the tone of their union if they don't like what their union is saying, that's how unions work.

Yes it is extra work, yes it is hard.

But if you aren't willing to put in the work then you don't get to abscond blame.

You write this as if there is one union representing all teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. I will go back when I’m asked to go back, but if they tell me I can teach from home forever I’d happily do that too. My job is to teach, that’s what I’m doing. My job is not to fight leadership about what that teaching should look like.

The idea that I’m a bad teacher because I’m not fighting the FEA rhetoric is ridiculous. I’m not an FEA member, I want nothing to do with it. I just want to write my lessons and teach my students, wherever the location is.

I'm curious. What grade do you teach? I teach a primary grade and I don't know anybody who would make that statement.

My husband teaches middle school math and likes teaching from home. I told him fcps may offer more virtual learning in the future so go ahead and apply for a job doing it full time if he wants. He would go back whenever but likes it more than he thought.

Right. He doesn't teach kindergarten, first, second, or third grade. I don't know anyone in those grade levels who says they like this or want to do it long term. I'm sure some do, but this entire school year many I know have been saying this is not sustainable and as we go further into the school year the sentiment is growing. I hear the frustrations daily. I'm not going to put lipstick on a pig.

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently one will be presented at the SB meeting tonight sometime?

Nope, tonight was 2 hours of talking about achievement gaps in minority students and half an hour of Langley boundary changes

What got decided re: McLean and Langley boundaries?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. I will go back when I’m asked to go back, but if they tell me I can teach from home forever I’d happily do that too. My job is to teach, that’s what I’m doing. My job is not to fight leadership about what that teaching should look like.

The idea that I’m a bad teacher because I’m not fighting the FEA rhetoric is ridiculous. I’m not an FEA member, I want nothing to do with it. I just want to write my lessons and teach my students, wherever the location is.

I'm curious. What grade do you teach? I teach a primary grade and I don't know anybody who would make that statement.

High school math. There really are two completely separate conversations happening, as you can’t compare teaching 6 year olds to 16 year olds.

I actually prefer online teaching (soooo much less BS and interruptions) and will apply for any online jobs that exist next year. I’m fully prepared to return tomorrow if they told me to though—I’m not standing in the way of things opening at all.

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Hi! Here you go!

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https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/BXH6UN16A5EC/$file/Draft%20Timeline%201-21-21.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. I will go back when I’m asked to go back, but if they tell me I can teach from home forever I’d happily do that too. My job is to teach, that’s what I’m doing. My job is not to fight leadership about what that teaching should look like.

The idea that I’m a bad teacher because I’m not fighting the FEA rhetoric is ridiculous. I’m not an FEA member, I want nothing to do with it. I just want to write my lessons and teach my students, wherever the location is.

I'm curious. What grade do you teach? I teach a primary grade and I don't know anybody who would make that statement.

High school math. There really are two completely separate conversations happening, as you can’t compare teaching 6 year olds to 16 year olds.

I actually prefer online teaching (soooo much less BS and interruptions) and will apply for any online jobs that exist next year. I’m fully prepared to return tomorrow if they told me to though—I’m not standing in the way of things opening at all.

Thanks. Yes, I agree. That's why I asked about your grade level(s). I didn't pick up on that from the post.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. I will go back when I’m asked to go back, but if they tell me I can teach from home forever I’d happily do that too. My job is to teach, that’s what I’m doing. My job is not to fight leadership about what that teaching should look like.

The idea that I’m a bad teacher because I’m not fighting the FEA rhetoric is ridiculous. I’m not an FEA member, I want nothing to do with it. I just want to write my lessons and teach my students, wherever the location is.

Don't call yourself a teacher and say you want to teach from home forever. That is not what teachers do. You're a disgrace.

I hear your frustration. I'm not a disgrace, I am working within the boundaries that I have been given. I will do the best teaching I can from whatever location I am told to teach, and I am choosing to be happy wherever that location is. I am not ashamed for being content right now. I will be content when I return to the classroom too.