Moderate Dem here - can we prioritize?

[Anonymous]

Tearing down the wall is Priority #1. It’s a monument to racism. There are people in other countries who need to better their lives, and we need those people here to do jobs Americans are too lazy or too greedy to do.

[Anonymous]

You don't need to tear it down. It will eventually fall as it has already started. Just give it a year or two of big winds.

[Anonymous]

What wall? Lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We can walk and chew gum at the same time.

This. WTAF, OP??

It’s Christmas. Deadly pandemic. Mothers are stealing basic staples to feed their kids in winter. Unemployment expires on 12/26. Evictions protections expire 12/31. Small business loans expire 12/31. Vaccine approvals potentially today and distribution funds expire 12/31. Hospitals and states are overwhelmed plus out of aid funds which expire 12/31.

The federal government SHUTS DOWN on 12/18.

But still nothing has been done. Forgive me if I don’t see the competency to walk and chew gum at the same time.

So blame those who are in the positions to do something about it now. You want Biden to set up some sort of alternative government to suit your alternative reality?

I want Biden to put that ‘I’ll reach out across the aisle’ magic to use and get a deal done before Christmas.

I want him to be publicly photographed in a room with McConnell and Pelosi together with a deal hammered out the same day.

I want a bipartisan proposal brought up in both legislatures with Biden pushing, shoving and flagging votes every minute.

Don’t talk to me about Trump either - he’s a foolish toddler who will sign anything put in front of him as long as he can claim credit.

Ooooh boy. Either your meds are running low or you truly don’t understand how the government works. Either way, hold those who are in power now to account. Biden will be sworn in soon enough. Or if you want, keep up the ranting and hysteria.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We can walk and chew gum at the same time.

This. WTAF, OP??

It’s Christmas. Deadly pandemic. Mothers are stealing basic staples to feed their kids in winter. Unemployment expires on 12/26. Evictions protections expire 12/31. Small business loans expire 12/31. Vaccine approvals potentially today and distribution funds expire 12/31. Hospitals and states are overwhelmed plus out of aid funds which expire 12/31.

The federal government SHUTS DOWN on 12/18.

But still nothing has been done. Forgive me if I don’t see the competency to walk and chew gum at the same time.

So blame those who are in the positions to do something about it now. You want Biden to set up some sort of alternative government to suit your alternative reality?

I want Biden to put that ‘I’ll reach out across the aisle’ magic to use and get a deal done before Christmas.

I want him to be publicly photographed in a room with McConnell and Pelosi together with a deal hammered out the same day.

I want a bipartisan proposal brought up in both legislatures with Biden pushing, shoving and flagging votes every minute.

Don’t talk to me about Trump either - he’s a foolish toddler who will sign anything put in front of him as long as he can claim credit.

Ooooh boy. Either your meds are running low or you truly don’t understand how the government works. Either way, hold those who are in power now to account. Biden will be sworn in soon enough. Or if you want, keep up the ranting and hysteria.

Look I think the PP’s scenario is .... implausible .... however, let’s not pretend that Dems are handling the messaging on this well. I read better anonymous internet comments than I do actual statements from the most powerful people in the party. That’s bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We can walk and chew gum at the same time.

This. WTAF, OP??

It’s Christmas. Deadly pandemic. Mothers are stealing basic staples to feed their kids in winter. Unemployment expires on 12/26. Evictions protections expire 12/31. Small business loans expire 12/31. Vaccine approvals potentially today and distribution funds expire 12/31. Hospitals and states are overwhelmed plus out of aid funds which expire 12/31.

The federal government SHUTS DOWN on 12/18.

But still nothing has been done. Forgive me if I don’t see the competency to walk and chew gum at the same time.

So blame those who are in the positions to do something about it now. You want Biden to set up some sort of alternative government to suit your alternative reality?

I want Biden to put that ‘I’ll reach out across the aisle’ magic to use and get a deal done before Christmas.

I want him to be publicly photographed in a room with McConnell and Pelosi together with a deal hammered out the same day.

I want a bipartisan proposal brought up in both legislatures with Biden pushing, shoving and flagging votes every minute.

Don’t talk to me about Trump either - he’s a foolish toddler who will sign anything put in front of him as long as he can claim credit.

Ooooh boy. Either your meds are running low or you truly don’t understand how the government works. Either way, hold those who are in power now to account. Biden will be sworn in soon enough. Or if you want, keep up the ranting and hysteria.

Look I think the PP’s scenario is .... implausible .... however, let’s not pretend that Dems are handling the messaging on this well. I read better anonymous internet comments than I do actual statements from the most powerful people in the party. That’s bad.

Biden has been bragging about being BFFs with McConnell since Election Day. All I’m asking is that he cut a deal and get his buddy to bring up a Senate floor vote and push Pelosi/Schumer to let at least 10 Democrats support it.

That’s all.

[Anonymous]

I'm going to give Biden a break on this. I looked at some stuff that it isn't top headline outrage-of-the-day news and apparently Biden is quite busy working on the transition while Trump continues to try to make things difficult. He has a day job and he is doing it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to give Biden a break on this. I looked at some stuff that it isn't top headline outrage-of-the-day news and apparently Biden is quite busy working on the transition while Trump continues to try to make things difficult. He has a day job and he is doing it.

False dichotomy. Do both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to give Biden a break on this. I looked at some stuff that it isn't top headline outrage-of-the-day news and apparently Biden is quite busy working on the transition while Trump continues to try to make things difficult. He has a day job and he is doing it.

False dichotomy. Do both.

I'm going to give him a break anyway. It's clear that no matter what he does for whatever reason, he will be criticized for not doing something else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to give Biden a break on this. I looked at some stuff that it isn't top headline outrage-of-the-day news and apparently Biden is quite busy working on the transition while Trump continues to try to make things difficult. He has a day job and he is doing it.

False dichotomy. Do both.

Also, covid relief isn’t outrage of the day stuff: it’s our nations most urgent crisis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to give Biden a break on this. I looked at some stuff that it isn't top headline outrage-of-the-day news and apparently Biden is quite busy working on the transition while Trump continues to try to make things difficult. He has a day job and he is doing it.

False dichotomy. Do both.

Also, covid relief isn’t outrage of the day stuff: it’s our nations most urgent crisis.

It's been a crisis for almost a year and we've failed miserably. And the whole Trump Administration was already one crisis after another. After a while it becomes the new normal. That's where I am. Maybe Biden can fix it, but he isn't a miracle worker. It can get worse, too. Buckle up if you haven't already. Steal those potatoes if you need to. This is actually much worse than you realize.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to give Biden a break on this. I looked at some stuff that it isn't top headline outrage-of-the-day news and apparently Biden is quite busy working on the transition while Trump continues to try to make things difficult. He has a day job and he is doing it.

False dichotomy. Do both.

I'm going to give him a break anyway. It's clear that no matter what he does for whatever reason, he will be criticized for not doing something else.

Biden’s a moderate, always has been a moderate, and will govern the country as a moderate. We’re in good hands. Where I fear most of the vocal irrational criticism will come from is the left who will increasingly find themselves sidelined by the admin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to give Biden a break on this. I looked at some stuff that it isn't top headline outrage-of-the-day news and apparently Biden is quite busy working on the transition while Trump continues to try to make things difficult. He has a day job and he is doing it.

False dichotomy. Do both.

Also, covid relief isn’t outrage of the day stuff: it’s our nations most urgent crisis.

It's been a crisis for almost a year and we've failed miserably. And the whole Trump Administration was already one crisis after another. After a while it becomes the new normal. That's where I am. Maybe Biden can fix it, but he isn't a miracle worker. It can get worse, too. Buckle up if you haven't already. Steal those potatoes if you need to. This is actually much worse than you realize.

He isn't a miracle worker? He hasn't even had a fight yet.

If he can't do this, why did we vote for him? The NUMBER ONE priority for Democrats in the 2020 election was Covid-19 and Economic Relief.

Biden should wake up sweating about this every morning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to give Biden a break on this. I looked at some stuff that it isn't top headline outrage-of-the-day news and apparently Biden is quite busy working on the transition while Trump continues to try to make things difficult. He has a day job and he is doing it.

False dichotomy. Do both.

Also, covid relief isn’t outrage of the day stuff: it’s our nations most urgent crisis.

It's been a crisis for almost a year and we've failed miserably. And the whole Trump Administration was already one crisis after another. After a while it becomes the new normal. That's where I am. Maybe Biden can fix it, but he isn't a miracle worker. It can get worse, too. Buckle up if you haven't already. Steal those potatoes if you need to. This is actually much worse than you realize.

He isn't a miracle worker? He hasn't even had a fight yet.

If he can't do this, why did we vote for him? The NUMBER ONE priority for Democrats in the 2020 election was Covid-19 and Economic Relief.

Biden should wake up sweating about this every morning.

I don't know, why DID you vote for him? I voted for him because I thought he was the better choice. I didn't vote for him because I thought he would make it all better right away or expend all his political capital before he even got elected.

One thing I like about Biden is that he seems to have suffered deeply enough that he doesn't wake up sweating anymore. It's not just how much he has suffered, but how he overcame it to become stronger. I can see that in him. He won't be jumping to your tune, so you'll just have to trust him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to give Biden a break on this. I looked at some stuff that it isn't top headline outrage-of-the-day news and apparently Biden is quite busy working on the transition while Trump continues to try to make things difficult. He has a day job and he is doing it.

False dichotomy. Do both.

Also, covid relief isn’t outrage of the day stuff: it’s our nations most urgent crisis.

It's been a crisis for almost a year and we've failed miserably. And the whole Trump Administration was already one crisis after another. After a while it becomes the new normal. That's where I am. Maybe Biden can fix it, but he isn't a miracle worker. It can get worse, too. Buckle up if you haven't already. Steal those potatoes if you need to. This is actually much worse than you realize.

He isn't a miracle worker? He hasn't even had a fight yet.

If he can't do this, why did we vote for him? The NUMBER ONE priority for Democrats in the 2020 election was Covid-19 and Economic Relief.

Biden should wake up sweating about this every morning.

I don't know, why DID you vote for him? I voted for him because I thought he was the better choice. I didn't vote for him because I thought he would make it all better right away or expend all his political capital before he even got elected.

One thing I like about Biden is that he seems to have suffered deeply enough that he doesn't wake up sweating anymore. It's not just how much he has suffered, but how he overcame it to become stronger. I can see that in him. He won't be jumping to your tune, so you'll just have to trust him.

Trust him - of course. But dude we're up against some massive deadlines. Congress is out of session on the 21st for nearly a month through Inauguration. If he's got a rabbit to pull out of his hat, the time is now.

And don't tell me he isn't a miracle worker...he stated that he wanted this done quickly. Well...?

Biden urges pandemic relief compromise, testing his faith in bipartisanship

“If we don’t act now, the future will be very bleak,” Biden said, speaking to reporters in Wilmington, Del. “Americans need help and they need it now, and they’ll need more to come early next year. But I must tell you, I am encouraged by the bipartisan efforts in the Senate around a $900-billion package of relief.”

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-12-04/as-biden-steps-up-to-lead-on-economy-its-deja-vu-all-over-again