Admitting you are Asian (college apps)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is an old article but still so relevant:

https://nymag.com/news/features/asian-americans-2011-5/

As for the OPs question, there are actually some admissions counsellors who advise their clients not to "appear Asian" in the college application. Play the cello? Don't mention it. Play badmitten? Don't mention it. But others say it's not worth 'gaming' the system and just try to be yourself, highlight what is worth highlighting and not worry about it.

https://www.ivycoach.com/in-the-press/college-admissions-advisors-work-to-make-asian-kids-less-asian/

https://insights.collegeconfidential.com/asian-admissions-angst

Sure there are parents who will twist their kid into a pretzel to get them into a higher ranked school.

And then there are parents who celebrate the children they were blessed with, and try to help them find a school where they will thrive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is an old article but still so relevant:

https://nymag.com/news/features/asian-americans-2011-5/

As for the OPs question, there are actually some admissions counsellors who advise their clients not to "appear Asian" in the college application. Play the cello? Don't mention it. Play badmitten? Don't mention it. But others say it's not worth 'gaming' the system and just try to be yourself, highlight what is worth highlighting and not worry about it.

https://www.ivycoach.com/in-the-press/college-admissions-advisors-work-to-make-asian-kids-less-asian/

https://insights.collegeconfidential.com/asian-admissions-angst

Sure there are parents who will twist their kid into a pretzel to get them into a higher ranked school.

And then there are parents who celebrate the children they were blessed with, and try to help them find a school where they will thrive.

Many Asian parents are blessed with very high qualified children who would thrive at a higher ranked school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is an old article but still so relevant:

https://nymag.com/news/features/asian-americans-2011-5/

As for the OPs question, there are actually some admissions counsellors who advise their clients not to "appear Asian" in the college application. Play the cello? Don't mention it. Play badmitten? Don't mention it. But others say it's not worth 'gaming' the system and just try to be yourself, highlight what is worth highlighting and not worry about it.

https://www.ivycoach.com/in-the-press/college-admissions-advisors-work-to-make-asian-kids-less-asian/

https://insights.collegeconfidential.com/asian-admissions-angst

Sure there are parents who will twist their kid into a pretzel to get them into a higher ranked school.

And then there are parents who celebrate the children they were blessed with, and try to help them find a school where they will thrive.

....but they wouldn't thrive at a slightly lower-ranked one?

Attending an HPYS isn't a right, and there's no reason why a smart and motivated kids would have worse outcomes at (gasp) Cornell than they would at Stanford.


Many Asian parents are blessed with very high qualified children who would thrive at a higher ranked school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s so sad that an Asian kid feels the need to hide identity because of discrimination. I’m white and I’m very empathetic to this. I’m sorry OP.

There is nothing inherently wrong with discrimination. When you choose a salad as your side, you discriminate against the French fries. That isn’t the issue.

I have no problem with colleges that desire a diverse student body effectively putting a cap on how many students of a similar background they will accept.

So you see nothing wrong with Harvard in the old days capping Jewish students to 2%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is an old article but still so relevant:

https://nymag.com/news/features/asian-americans-2011-5/

As for the OPs question, there are actually some admissions counsellors who advise their clients not to "appear Asian" in the college application. Play the cello? Don't mention it. Play badmitten? Don't mention it. But others say it's not worth 'gaming' the system and just try to be yourself, highlight what is worth highlighting and not worry about it.

https://www.ivycoach.com/in-the-press/college-admissions-advisors-work-to-make-asian-kids-less-asian/

https://insights.collegeconfidential.com/asian-admissions-angst

Sure there are parents who will twist their kid into a pretzel to get them into a higher ranked school.

And then there are parents who celebrate the children they were blessed with, and try to help them find a school where they will thrive.

....but they wouldn't thrive at a slightly lower-ranked one?

Attending an HPYS isn't a right, and there's no reason why a smart and motivated kids would have worse outcomes at (gasp) Cornell than they would at Stanford.


Many Asian parents are blessed with very high qualified children who would thrive at a higher ranked school.

There’s no reason why a smart and motivated black or Hispanic student would have worse outcomes at (gasp) Cornell than they would at Stanford.

[Anonymous]

My D is Asian. She’s doing fine at an Ivy living her dream.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s so sad that an Asian kid feels the need to hide identity because of discrimination. I’m white and I’m very empathetic to this. I’m sorry OP.

There is nothing inherently wrong with discrimination. When you choose a salad as your side, you discriminate against the French fries. That isn’t the issue.

I have no problem with colleges that desire a diverse student body effectively putting a cap on how many students of a similar background they will accept.

So you see nothing wrong with Harvard in the old days capping Jewish students to 2%

Nope. That’s about the proportion to society, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s so sad that an Asian kid feels the need to hide identity because of discrimination. I’m white and I’m very empathetic to this. I’m sorry OP.

There is nothing inherently wrong with discrimination. When you choose a salad as your side, you discriminate against the French fries. That isn’t the issue.

I have no problem with colleges that desire a diverse student body effectively putting a cap on how many students of a similar background they will accept.

So you see nothing wrong with Harvard in the old days capping Jewish students to 2%

Nope. That’s about the proportion to society, right?

Right.

Tell me, oh Wise. How about the NFL and NBA? We need 2% Jewish players proportional to society?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s so sad that an Asian kid feels the need to hide identity because of discrimination. I’m white and I’m very empathetic to this. I’m sorry OP.

There is nothing inherently wrong with discrimination. When you choose a salad as your side, you discriminate against the French fries. That isn’t the issue.

I have no problem with colleges that desire a diverse student body effectively putting a cap on how many students of a similar background they will accept.

So you see nothing wrong with Harvard in the old days capping Jewish students to 2%

Nope. That’s about the proportion to society, right?

Right.

Tell me, oh Wise. How about the NFL and NBA? We need 2% Jewish players proportional to society?

And I’m 5’2” white women. I’m discriminated against in NBA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s so sad that an Asian kid feels the need to hide identity because of discrimination. I’m white and I’m very empathetic to this. I’m sorry OP.

There is nothing inherently wrong with discrimination. When you choose a salad as your side, you discriminate against the French fries. That isn’t the issue.

I have no problem with colleges that desire a diverse student body effectively putting a cap on how many students of a similar background they will accept.

Would you be okay with job applicants of certain racial backgrounds being less likely to get jobs than equally qualified candidates of different backgrounds because the company desires diverse employees? I'm not necessarily arguing against what you're saying. Just curious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is an old article but still so relevant:

https://nymag.com/news/features/asian-americans-2011-5/

As for the OPs question, there are actually some admissions counsellors who advise their clients not to "appear Asian" in the college application. Play the cello? Don't mention it. Play badmitten? Don't mention it. But others say it's not worth 'gaming' the system and just try to be yourself, highlight what is worth highlighting and not worry about it.

https://www.ivycoach.com/in-the-press/college-admissions-advisors-work-to-make-asian-kids-less-asian/

https://insights.collegeconfidential.com/asian-admissions-angst

Sure there are parents who will twist their kid into a pretzel to get them into a higher ranked school.

And then there are parents who celebrate the children they were blessed with, and try to help them find a school where they will thrive.

Yes. And the schools are tired of pretzels. That’s why they’re starting to not require SATs, because you can train any monkey to take it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My D is Asian. She’s doing fine at an Ivy living her dream.

your dream

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My D is Asian. She’s doing fine at an Ivy living her dream.

your dream

Now we know your kids didn’t make it, it’s my kid’s dream.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s so sad that an Asian kid feels the need to hide identity because of discrimination. I’m white and I’m very empathetic to this. I’m sorry OP.

There is nothing inherently wrong with discrimination. When you choose a salad as your side, you discriminate against the French fries. That isn’t the issue.

I have no problem with colleges that desire a diverse student body effectively putting a cap on how many students of a similar background they will accept.

So you see nothing wrong with Harvard in the old days capping Jewish students to 2%

Nope. That’s about the proportion to society, right?

Right.

Tell me, oh Wise. How about the NFL and NBA? We need 2% Jewish players proportional to society?

And I’m 5’2” white women. I’m discriminated against in NBA.

You're not discriminated against in the WNBA, you will simply fail to meet the requirements. Asian American students do not fail to meet the requirements, they overwhelmingly exceed them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is an old article but still so relevant:

https://nymag.com/news/features/asian-americans-2011-5/

As for the OPs question, there are actually some admissions counsellors who advise their clients not to "appear Asian" in the college application. Play the cello? Don't mention it. Play badmitten? Don't mention it. But others say it's not worth 'gaming' the system and just try to be yourself, highlight what is worth highlighting and not worry about it.

https://www.ivycoach.com/in-the-press/college-admissions-advisors-work-to-make-asian-kids-less-asian/

https://insights.collegeconfidential.com/asian-admissions-angst

Sure there are parents who will twist their kid into a pretzel to get them into a higher ranked school.

And then there are parents who celebrate the children they were blessed with, and try to help them find a school where they will thrive.

Sorry, just because your white kid is lacking in certain qualities does not mean that Asian American kids are as well.