Electric - Which - Not Tesla

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Anonymous wrote:Tesla. Just bite the bullet and get it. You know you want it

This. This is the only option, OP. And you know it. You know you want one. Every other e-car only wishes it was the Tesla.

The Mercedes and Porsche models will be more advanced. Plus, the tax credit has expired for Teslas but not for other brands.

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Anonymous wrote:Which of these have CHAdeMO? Is there CHAdeMO infrastructure in place yet to rival Tesla’s supercharger network?

If you count all the different companies with chargers that use CHAdeMO it's probably comparable or at least close to Tesla, but to be able to use all of them you're going to be paying several different subscription fees every month. Plus many of the companies are so outrageously expensive as to completely negate the cost savings of having an EV. Electrify America, for instance, charges 70 cents a minute to use a 150KW charger. I can't speak about any other cars but my Model 3, but when using a 150KW charger, a mostly full charge (like 5%-90%) takes about 45 minutes, so a "fill up" at an Electrify America station in a car with a similar charging rate would cost you $31.50. At a Tesla Supercharger it would cost you about $15.

Please explain how these on-the-go charging works for us?
For example: If I have a Tesla, I can charge it at ..... for free/for a fix fee/per kWh. If I have a non-Tesla, I can charge it at .....for free/for a fix fee/per kWh.

Do I need an app or a member ship card at any of these charging stations?

Also, are there any free charging stations, like at the mall?

Thanks

For Teslas, you mostly use their fantastic and numerous Superchargers. You'll probably receive a certain amount of miles for free when you buy your car, (I got 5000), and then after that you pay, but it's inexpensive...normally around $10 to "fill up".
You can also use almost all the commercial places, EvGo, EA, etc., but that's more expensive and slower.
For a non Tesla, you can only use the commercial places. You need to sign up to use them, and they have cards or apps to play with.
There are some free places around, but they tend to be much slower, and hard to find.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tesla. Just bite the bullet and get it. You know you want it

This. This is the only option, OP. And you know it. You know you want one. Every other e-car only wishes it was the Tesla.

The Mercedes and Porsche models will be more advanced. Plus, the tax credit has expired for Teslas but not for other brands.

Will be is the key word, and while they're playing catch up, Teslas will continue to improve.
It's just like when the iPhone came out....it took a long time before the other companies caught up with the technology. We'll see how long it takes the car companies to catch up with Tesla, especially when it comes to the charging network.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tesla. Just bite the bullet and get it. You know you want it

This. This is the only option, OP. And you know it. You know you want one. Every other e-car only wishes it was the Tesla.

The Mercedes and Porsche models will be more advanced. Plus, the tax credit has expired for Teslas but not for other brands.

Will be is the key word, and while they're playing catch up, Teslas will continue to improve.
It's just like when the iPhone came out....it took a long time before the other companies caught up with the technology. We'll see how long it takes the car companies to catch up with Tesla, especially when it comes to the charging network.

This is our dilemma. The Jaguar and Audi models are already out and doesn't even compare from a range perspective (haven't driven it yet). I doubt Mercedes, Porsche, BMW, or Volvo will be able to catch up either. By the time their cars are launched, Tesla will be light years ahead...and even if we buy today, the software updates improve the care automatically.

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I am struggling with this too. We are deciding between the Tesla, Niro and Kona and plan to test drive this weekend. I guess I am basically deciding whether the improved driving/experience of the Tesla is worth giving up the 7500 tax credit.

It seems like there are so many electric cars on the horizon that have a supposed 2020/2021 release date, but it also seems like the cars aren't coming out when they are supposed to. I want to keep waiting for some of the proposed VW and Volvo models but I have no idea if they are actually going to come out when they say they are (looking at you Subaru Crosstrek EV)

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Anonymous wrote:I am struggling with this too. We are deciding between the Tesla, Niro and Kona and plan to test drive this weekend. I guess I am basically deciding whether the improved driving/experience of the Tesla is worth giving up the 7500 tax credit.

It seems like there are so many electric cars on the horizon that have a supposed 2020/2021 release date, but it also seems like the cars aren't coming out when they are supposed to. I want to keep waiting for some of the proposed VW and Volvo models but I have no idea if they are actually going to come out when they say they are (looking at you Subaru Crosstrek EV)

I was just at the Fitzgerald Subaru dealership on Monday to get our car serviced in Rockville. They had a brand new Crosstrek Plugin Hybrid right next to show room. It looked gorgeous, that model seemed to be fully loaded. Also, the window sticker said it qualifies for the tax credit.

I can't wait until they introduce this to the Outback and Forester lines.

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While watching the football playoff games, I saw tons of ads for General Motors products, but no ads for the Chevy Bolt. If they say they will transition to all-electric vehicles soon, why don't they advertise an EV car that has gotten decent reviews? Do they not want to sell it but feel obligated to offer it for political reasons?

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I test drove every available electric and hybrid plug-in in 2019. I was really resistant to the brand, but Tesla was a far superior car to every other option and that’s what I ended up buying. No regrets.

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Either get a cheap used Leaf or i3 for the city or a tesla/taycan for anything else.

You won't feel bad about the dents and dings on a used leaf. The tesla or porsche on non-city roads are great.

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Bump any recent reviews?

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Coincidentally, DH test drove a Tesla Y yesterday and I rode along. He had his heart set on it. By the time we left, he wasn't so sure it was the right car for him.

I didn't really like it.... too jerky for my tastes. The "regenerative braking" means that it brakes as you pull your foot off the accellerator (even if you don't touch the brake pedal). And you can feel the jerkiness as the driver pulls back from accelleration. I did find it to be comfortable inside, lots of cargo storage, and I liked the clear roof.

I also found the front driving panel/dash to be such a departure from what one normally sees that it was worrisome. You'd have to spend some time getting used to that. I felt nervous the whole time knowing how expensive the car was.

To me, the Y says "I'm a muscle-car, get out of my way!" when I look at it. DH was feeling a disconnect with the sporty image.... he's not THAT sporty. He just likes the scientific/ecological idea of an EV. The model Y was "more" than he wanted.

We recently looked at the Kia Nero.... ummm.... the range is like 112 miles on a full charge! How is that worth it for anyone? Who wants a car limited to 112 miles?

There really aren't that many full EVs on the market.

I think demand is outpacing supply right now.

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The VW ID.4 is on the way here and has gotten mostly good reviews, especially for people who don't currently drive EVs. Also Audi's e-Tron Q4, based on the same platform, will be out later this year.

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We chose the Audi etron over Tesla and we love it.
Comfortable to drive and smooth ride

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I have the Kia eNiro and love it. Has a lot of range and cheaper than Tesla. Drives really well. The charging network is fine. I have a bunch of apps on my phone but they're not subscriptions.