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Anonymous wrote:This is not your father’s Tesla.

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LOL, the Taycan?

You're right it's not a Tesla. It's slower, has less range, and is significantly more expensive than even the highest priced Tesla!


But it looks sweet! Honestly, if you’re driving a Tesla, it’s mostly for appearances anyway, so why not do it in a car that actually looks good? I find nothing special about the styling of any of the Teslas, and some of them are just plain ugly.


It does look sweet, and yeah, if you're in the market for a $100K Model S Ludicrous Performance the base model Taycan is not thaaaaat much more expensive, but for the average EV buyer? the cheapest Taycan is mor ethan twice the price of a long range Model 3 - a $55K difference. That's just not even remotely realistic just for better looks. (And personally I think all the Teslas except for the Y look pretty awesome already.)
Anonymous
Which of these have CHAdeMO? Is there CHAdeMO infrastructure in place yet to rival Tesla’s supercharger network?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Which of these have CHAdeMO? Is there CHAdeMO infrastructure in place yet to rival Tesla’s supercharger network?


If you count all the different companies with chargers that use CHAdeMO it's probably comparable or at least close to Tesla, but to be able to use all of them you're going to be paying several different subscription fees every month. Plus many of the companies are so outrageously expensive as to completely negate the cost savings of having an EV. Electrify America, for instance, charges 70 cents a minute to use a 150KW charger. I can't speak about any other cars but my Model 3, but when using a 150KW charger, a mostly full charge (like 5%-90%) takes about 45 minutes, so a "fill up" at an Electrify America station in a car with a similar charging rate would cost you $31.50. At a Tesla Supercharger it would cost you about $15.
Anonymous
The tesla super charger is also wicked fast.
I think the tesla drives nicely and is really comfortable. Im irked by the fancy screen stuff and miss the knobs for stuff like windshield wipers.
Also like my pacific hybrid but its not as comfortable and is a little more glitchy than the tesla.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We have the bolt. It’s enough for DHs commute and it’s the run to the store car. Love it.


I should hope so! The car gets 200+ miles of range.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is not your father’s Tesla.

t


LOL, the Taycan?

You're right it's not a Tesla. It's slower, has less range, and is significantly more expensive than even the highest priced Tesla!


But it looks sweet! Honestly, if you’re driving a Tesla, it’s mostly for appearances anyway, so why not do it in a car that actually looks good? I find nothing special about the styling of any of the Teslas, and some of them are just plain ugly.


+1

Some Teslas are ugly.

Did prices come down? Model Ss were $100k last time I considered them.


Anonymous
Polestar2 is coming in 2020
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The tesla super charger is also wicked fast.
I think the tesla drives nicely and is really comfortable. Im irked by the fancy screen stuff and miss the knobs for stuff like windshield wipers.
Also like my pacific hybrid but its not as comfortable and is a little more glitchy than the tesla.


I also found the fancy screen on the Tesla irksome and wanted more of a car feel.
Anonymous
I test drove the Tesla Model X and the Audi E-Tron over the weekend.

I can't take my mind off the Tesla now. It was amazing and so responsive. I like the stiffer ride in general, so I imagine that is what some people don't like. I liked the tech and the very intuitive big screen. I hate driving new cars with lots of knobs and having to figure out how to use it. The Tesla is like the Apple of computers in that it is super intuitive and fun to use. And with each upgrade, your car becomes like a new car. Recently the range went from 300 to 350 with just the software upgrade.

The E-Tron was underwhelming and I can't justifying spending that kind of money on a vehicle with only a 204 mile range.

We are ready to bite the bullet for a new car, but we don't want another ICE. Tesla is the only line which can boast a 350 range on a full charge. I don't know if I can wait another couple of years...my car is 7 years old.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I test drove the Tesla Model X and the Audi E-Tron over the weekend.

I can't take my mind off the Tesla now. It was amazing and so responsive. I like the stiffer ride in general, so I imagine that is what some people don't like. I liked the tech and the very intuitive big screen. I hate driving new cars with lots of knobs and having to figure out how to use it. The Tesla is like the Apple of computers in that it is super intuitive and fun to use. And with each upgrade, your car becomes like a new car. Recently the range went from 300 to 350 with just the software upgrade.

The E-Tron was underwhelming and I can't justifying spending that kind of money on a vehicle with only a 204 mile range.

We are ready to bite the bullet for a new car, but we don't want another ICE. Tesla is the only line which can boast a 350 range on a full charge. I don't know if I can wait another couple of years...my car is 7 years old.


Wait a couple of months and you can get a Model Y for half the price
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I test drove the Tesla Model X and the Audi E-Tron over the weekend.

I can't take my mind off the Tesla now. It was amazing and so responsive. I like the stiffer ride in general, so I imagine that is what some people don't like. I liked the tech and the very intuitive big screen. I hate driving new cars with lots of knobs and having to figure out how to use it. The Tesla is like the Apple of computers in that it is super intuitive and fun to use. And with each upgrade, your car becomes like a new car. Recently the range went from 300 to 350 with just the software upgrade.

The E-Tron was underwhelming and I can't justifying spending that kind of money on a vehicle with only a 204 mile range.

We are ready to bite the bullet for a new car, but we don't want another ICE. Tesla is the only line which can boast a 350 range on a full charge. I don't know if I can wait another couple of years...my car is 7 years old.


Wait a couple of months and you can get a Model Y for half the price


Yeah, thought of that, but it’s so small.
Anonymous
We test drove other electrics in order for me to prove to my DH that the Tesla was overpriced and not worth it. We now own a Tesla. It backfired on me as I realized nothing compared once I had been behind the wheel of the Tesla.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We test drove other electrics in order for me to prove to my DH that the Tesla was overpriced and not worth it. We now own a Tesla. It backfired on me as I realized nothing compared once I had been behind the wheel of the Tesla.


I did the same thing...I was planning on getting a Hyundai Kona EV, and drove the Tesla before I bought it just to prove to myself I didn't want it.
I bought the Tesla instead...the drive was SO much better, and it was actually less expensive as well.
Haven't regretted it for a second.
To be fair though, the reliability of the Tesla was on my mind, although I've heard they've gotten much, much better. It was my second car...don't know if I would have bought it if it was my only car.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We test drove other electrics in order for me to prove to my DH that the Tesla was overpriced and not worth it. We now own a Tesla. It backfired on me as I realized nothing compared once I had been behind the wheel of the Tesla.


I did the same thing...I was planning on getting a Hyundai Kona EV, and drove the Tesla before I bought it just to prove to myself I didn't want it.
I bought the Tesla instead...the drive was SO much better, and it was actually less expensive as well.
Haven't regretted it for a second.
To be fair though, the reliability of the Tesla was on my mind, although I've heard they've gotten much, much better. It was my second car...don't know if I would have bought it if it was my only car.


We did the same thing but with the Kia Niro EV. I was 100% sure I wanted a crossover and test drove the model 3 just for fun. Got the Tesla.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Which of these have CHAdeMO? Is there CHAdeMO infrastructure in place yet to rival Tesla’s supercharger network?


If you count all the different companies with chargers that use CHAdeMO it's probably comparable or at least close to Tesla, but to be able to use all of them you're going to be paying several different subscription fees every month. Plus many of the companies are so outrageously expensive as to completely negate the cost savings of having an EV. Electrify America, for instance, charges 70 cents a minute to use a 150KW charger. I can't speak about any other cars but my Model 3, but when using a 150KW charger, a mostly full charge (like 5%-90%) takes about 45 minutes, so a "fill up" at an Electrify America station in a car with a similar charging rate would cost you $31.50. At a Tesla Supercharger it would cost you about $15.


Please explain how these on-the-go charging works for us?
For example: If I have a Tesla, I can charge it at ..... for free/for a fix fee/per kWh. If I have a non-Tesla, I can charge it at .....for free/for a fix fee/per kWh.

Do I need an app or a member ship card at any of these charging stations?

Also, are there any free charging stations, like at the mall?

Thanks
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