Electric - Which - Not Tesla

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Anonymous wrote:lol people are talking about derechos and the coming apocalypse and whether ice or electric is better. The reality is much more basic - if I drive to Virginia Beach on most electrics I have to stress the whole time about deviating from my path to find a charging station, pray there isn't a big line, and best case scenario sit there for 30-45 minutes. I also have to do this on the way back. A 3.5 hour trip becomes a 4.5 hour trip plus a bunch of additional worry. No thanks. Someday electric technology will be "ready" and that day is when cars can charge in 10 minutes or less and go 300-400 miles AND not be crappily made and boring (looking at you Tesla). That day is not here yet, but when it comes I will gladly buy one

There are no less than 10 supercharger stations on the way from DC to VA Beach. Why do you have to stress when driving one of your hypothetical 'most electrics'?

+1 that post cracked me up. It's not like that at all.

The additional worry is the WAITING for the car to charge up. I hear all these ridiculous Tesla owners being like "Well we just plan to stop and eat lunch while our car charges." That's great for you but some of us don't like pissing away an additional hour on a 3 hour trip with roadside junk food.

My Tesla at a supercharger can be fully charged in much less than an hour.
By the time we get out and use the bathroom most times the car is ready to go.
I can do a four hour round trip without charging. I charge at home almost exclusively.

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Anonymous wrote:lol people are talking about derechos and the coming apocalypse and whether ice or electric is better. The reality is much more basic - if I drive to Virginia Beach on most electrics I have to stress the whole time about deviating from my path to find a charging station, pray there isn't a big line, and best case scenario sit there for 30-45 minutes. I also have to do this on the way back. A 3.5 hour trip becomes a 4.5 hour trip plus a bunch of additional worry. No thanks. Someday electric technology will be "ready" and that day is when cars can charge in 10 minutes or less and go 300-400 miles AND not be crappily made and boring (looking at you Tesla). That day is not here yet, but when it comes I will gladly buy one

There are no less than 10 supercharger stations on the way from DC to VA Beach. Why do you have to stress when driving one of your hypothetical 'most electrics'?

+1 that post cracked me up. It's not like that at all.

The additional worry is the WAITING for the car to charge up. I hear all these ridiculous Tesla owners being like "Well we just plan to stop and eat lunch while our car charges." That's great for you but some of us don't like pissing away an additional hour on a 3 hour trip with roadside junk food.

How many three-hour road trips do you take in a year? Don't you think the total time you'll save never having to take the car to a gas station, ever, because you can charge it at home while you're sleeping will more than make up for adding some time to your road trips? (Also, for what it's worth, almost no EVs made in the last several years would need to charge for an hour during a three-hour road trip. More like 25 or 30 minutes, max.)

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Tesla ripped off GM. They had a mass produced electric vehicle in the 1990s
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1

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Anonymous wrote:lol people are talking about derechos and the coming apocalypse and whether ice or electric is better. The reality is much more basic - if I drive to Virginia Beach on most electrics I have to stress the whole time about deviating from my path to find a charging station, pray there isn't a big line, and best case scenario sit there for 30-45 minutes. I also have to do this on the way back. A 3.5 hour trip becomes a 4.5 hour trip plus a bunch of additional worry. No thanks. Someday electric technology will be "ready" and that day is when cars can charge in 10 minutes or less and go 300-400 miles AND not be crappily made and boring (looking at you Tesla). That day is not here yet, but when it comes I will gladly buy one

There are no less than 10 supercharger stations on the way from DC to VA Beach. Why do you have to stress when driving one of your hypothetical 'most electrics'?

+1 that post cracked me up. It's not like that at all.

The additional worry is the WAITING for the car to charge up. I hear all these ridiculous Tesla owners being like "Well we just plan to stop and eat lunch while our car charges." That's great for you but some of us don't like pissing away an additional hour on a 3 hour trip with roadside junk food.

How many three-hour road trips do you take in a year? Don't you think the total time you'll save never having to take the car to a gas station, ever, because you can charge it at home while you're sleeping will more than make up for adding some time to your road trips? (Also, for what it's worth, almost no EVs made in the last several years would need to charge for an hour during a three-hour road trip. More like 25 or 30 minutes, max.)

Adding after our Thanksgiving road trip that every highway rest area gas station we passed looked like it had lines of at least 20 minutes to fill up, while we had no wait at the DC fast charging station where we stopped for 25 minutes for a free charge (and also got coffee, food, etc.) on the way home.

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Anonymous wrote:lol people are talking about derechos and the coming apocalypse and whether ice or electric is better. The reality is much more basic - if I drive to Virginia Beach on most electrics I have to stress the whole time about deviating from my path to find a charging station, pray there isn't a big line, and best case scenario sit there for 30-45 minutes. I also have to do this on the way back. A 3.5 hour trip becomes a 4.5 hour trip plus a bunch of additional worry. No thanks. Someday electric technology will be "ready" and that day is when cars can charge in 10 minutes or less and go 300-400 miles AND not be crappily made and boring (looking at you Tesla). That day is not here yet, but when it comes I will gladly buy one

There are no less than 10 supercharger stations on the way from DC to VA Beach. Why do you have to stress when driving one of your hypothetical 'most electrics'?

+1 that post cracked me up. It's not like that at all.

The additional worry is the WAITING for the car to charge up. I hear all these ridiculous Tesla owners being like "Well we just plan to stop and eat lunch while our car charges." That's great for you but some of us don't like pissing away an additional hour on a 3 hour trip with roadside junk food.

How many three-hour road trips do you take in a year? Don't you think the total time you'll save never having to take the car to a gas station, ever, because you can charge it at home while you're sleeping will more than make up for adding some time to your road trips? (Also, for what it's worth, almost no EVs made in the last several years would need to charge for an hour during a three-hour road trip. More like 25 or 30 minutes, max.)

Adding after our Thanksgiving road trip that every highway rest area gas station we passed looked like it had lines of at least 20 minutes to fill up, while we had no wait at the DC fast charging station where we stopped for 25 minutes for a free charge (and also got coffee, food, etc.) on the way home.

Did you travel north or south?

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Anonymous wrote:lol people are talking about derechos and the coming apocalypse and whether ice or electric is better. The reality is much more basic - if I drive to Virginia Beach on most electrics I have to stress the whole time about deviating from my path to find a charging station, pray there isn't a big line, and best case scenario sit there for 30-45 minutes. I also have to do this on the way back. A 3.5 hour trip becomes a 4.5 hour trip plus a bunch of additional worry. No thanks. Someday electric technology will be "ready" and that day is when cars can charge in 10 minutes or less and go 300-400 miles AND not be crappily made and boring (looking at you Tesla). That day is not here yet, but when it comes I will gladly buy one

There are no less than 10 supercharger stations on the way from DC to VA Beach. Why do you have to stress when driving one of your hypothetical 'most electrics'?

+1 that post cracked me up. It's not like that at all.

The additional worry is the WAITING for the car to charge up. I hear all these ridiculous Tesla owners being like "Well we just plan to stop and eat lunch while our car charges." That's great for you but some of us don't like pissing away an additional hour on a 3 hour trip with roadside junk food.

How many three-hour road trips do you take in a year? Don't you think the total time you'll save never having to take the car to a gas station, ever, because you can charge it at home while you're sleeping will more than make up for adding some time to your road trips? (Also, for what it's worth, almost no EVs made in the last several years would need to charge for an hour during a three-hour road trip. More like 25 or 30 minutes, max.)

Adding after our Thanksgiving road trip that every highway rest area gas station we passed looked like it had lines of at least 20 minutes to fill up, while we had no wait at the DC fast charging station where we stopped for 25 minutes for a free charge (and also got coffee, food, etc.) on the way home.

Did you travel north or south?

Well, both, but we went north first and then south. Didn't have to wait either way, though coming home (i.e., south) on Saturday evening, we got the last open charger.

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Anonymous wrote:lol people are talking about derechos and the coming apocalypse and whether ice or electric is better. The reality is much more basic - if I drive to Virginia Beach on most electrics I have to stress the whole time about deviating from my path to find a charging station, pray there isn't a big line, and best case scenario sit there for 30-45 minutes. I also have to do this on the way back. A 3.5 hour trip becomes a 4.5 hour trip plus a bunch of additional worry. No thanks. Someday electric technology will be "ready" and that day is when cars can charge in 10 minutes or less and go 300-400 miles AND not be crappily made and boring (looking at you Tesla). That day is not here yet, but when it comes I will gladly buy one

There are no less than 10 supercharger stations on the way from DC to VA Beach. Why do you have to stress when driving one of your hypothetical 'most electrics'?

+1 that post cracked me up. It's not like that at all.

The additional worry is the WAITING for the car to charge up. I hear all these ridiculous Tesla owners being like "Well we just plan to stop and eat lunch while our car charges." That's great for you but some of us don't like pissing away an additional hour on a 3 hour trip with roadside junk food.

How many three-hour road trips do you take in a year? Don't you think the total time you'll save never having to take the car to a gas station, ever, because you can charge it at home while you're sleeping will more than make up for adding some time to your road trips? (Also, for what it's worth, almost no EVs made in the last several years would need to charge for an hour during a three-hour road trip. More like 25 or 30 minutes, max.)

Adding after our Thanksgiving road trip that every highway rest area gas station we passed looked like it had lines of at least 20 minutes to fill up, while we had no wait at the DC fast charging station where we stopped for 25 minutes for a free charge (and also got coffee, food, etc.) on the way home.

Did you travel north or south?

Well, both, but we went north first and then south. Didn't have to wait either way, though coming home (i.e., south) on Saturday evening, we got the last open charger.

I had a similar experience in the summer when I drove my Tesla from New Jersey to DC. At the gas station/rest stop on the NJ Turnpike, the lines for gas were at least 10 cars long but the superchargers were wide open. I went to the bathroom, got snacks and in about 20 minutes was on my way. I was really surprised to see such long gas lines.

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I love my VW ID.4. I paid for all the upgrades so the total cost was around $52k, but you can get it for a lot less. Plus you can still get the $7k tax rebate on VWs and other newer electrics, but you can no longer get the tax rebate on Teslas.

I never wanted a Tesla, although I could have gotten the Model 3 for around the price and a similar driving range. I find the Tesla styling generic and Elon Musk is annoying. Obviously YMMV. My friend has a Model S, she’s given me rides and it’s fine, but I didn’t fall in love. FWIW, she lives in CA and cops stop her all the time—she thinks it’s to check out her car because they never give her tickets.

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Anonymous wrote:I love my VW ID.4. I paid for all the upgrades so the total cost was around $52k, but you can get it for a lot less. Plus you can still get the $7k tax rebate on VWs and other newer electrics, but you can no longer get the tax rebate on Teslas.

I never wanted a Tesla, although I could have gotten the Model 3 for around the price and a similar driving range. I find the Tesla styling generic and Elon Musk is annoying. Obviously YMMV. My friend has a Model S, she’s given me rides and it’s fine, but I didn’t fall in love. FWIW, she lives in CA and cops stop her all the time—she thinks it’s to check out her car because they never give her tickets.

That makes no sense. There are Teslas (and yes, S model) everywhere in CA.

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Anonymous wrote:I love my VW ID.4. I paid for all the upgrades so the total cost was around $52k, but you can get it for a lot less. Plus you can still get the $7k tax rebate on VWs and other newer electrics, but you can no longer get the tax rebate on Teslas.

I never wanted a Tesla, although I could have gotten the Model 3 for around the price and a similar driving range. I find the Tesla styling generic and Elon Musk is annoying. Obviously YMMV. My friend has a Model S, she’s given me rides and it’s fine, but I didn’t fall in love. FWIW, she lives in CA and cops stop her all the time—she thinks it’s to check out her car because they never give her tickets.

That makes no sense. There are Teslas (and yes, S model) everywhere in CA.

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I could maybe believe this several years ago but today they are a dime a dozen.

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Anonymous wrote:I love my VW ID.4. I paid for all the upgrades so the total cost was around $52k, but you can get it for a lot less. Plus you can still get the $7k tax rebate on VWs and other newer electrics, but you can no longer get the tax rebate on Teslas.

I never wanted a Tesla, although I could have gotten the Model 3 for around the price and a similar driving range. I find the Tesla styling generic and Elon Musk is annoying. Obviously YMMV. My friend has a Model S, she’s given me rides and it’s fine, but I didn’t fall in love. FWIW, she lives in CA and cops stop her all the time—she thinks it’s to check out her car because they never give her tickets.

That makes no sense. There are Teslas (and yes, S model) everywhere in CA.

+1

I could maybe believe this several years ago but today they are a dime a dozen.

PP here. I last rode with her in her Tesla about 6 years ago, so yes. More recently she’s come out here or we haven’t met up thanks to COVID.

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Anonymous wrote:lol people are talking about derechos and the coming apocalypse and whether ice or electric is better. The reality is much more basic - if I drive to Virginia Beach on most electrics I have to stress the whole time about deviating from my path to find a charging station, pray there isn't a big line, and best case scenario sit there for 30-45 minutes. I also have to do this on the way back. A 3.5 hour trip becomes a 4.5 hour trip plus a bunch of additional worry. No thanks. Someday electric technology will be "ready" and that day is when cars can charge in 10 minutes or less and go 300-400 miles AND not be crappily made and boring (looking at you Tesla). That day is not here yet, but when it comes I will gladly buy one

There are no less than 10 supercharger stations on the way from DC to VA Beach. Why do you have to stress when driving one of your hypothetical 'most electrics'?

+1 that post cracked me up. It's not like that at all.

The additional worry is the WAITING for the car to charge up. I hear all these ridiculous Tesla owners being like "Well we just plan to stop and eat lunch while our car charges." That's great for you but some of us don't like pissing away an additional hour on a 3 hour trip with roadside junk food.

How many three-hour road trips do you take in a year? Don't you think the total time you'll save never having to take the car to a gas station, ever, because you can charge it at home while you're sleeping will more than make up for adding some time to your road trips? (Also, for what it's worth, almost no EVs made in the last several years would need to charge for an hour during a three-hour road trip. More like 25 or 30 minutes, max.)

Yeah, you'd have to be averaging a constant 100mph (so, impossible) to need to charge on a three hour trip. Presumably you're not just immediately turning around and coming back, so you can likely charge at your destination and not need to stop at all in the middle of a trip.

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Anonymous wrote:lol people are talking about derechos and the coming apocalypse and whether ice or electric is better. The reality is much more basic - if I drive to Virginia Beach on most electrics I have to stress the whole time about deviating from my path to find a charging station, pray there isn't a big line, and best case scenario sit there for 30-45 minutes. I also have to do this on the way back. A 3.5 hour trip becomes a 4.5 hour trip plus a bunch of additional worry. No thanks. Someday electric technology will be "ready" and that day is when cars can charge in 10 minutes or less and go 300-400 miles AND not be crappily made and boring (looking at you Tesla). That day is not here yet, but when it comes I will gladly buy one

There are no less than 10 supercharger stations on the way from DC to VA Beach. Why do you have to stress when driving one of your hypothetical 'most electrics'?

+1 that post cracked me up. It's not like that at all.

The additional worry is the WAITING for the car to charge up. I hear all these ridiculous Tesla owners being like "Well we just plan to stop and eat lunch while our car charges." That's great for you but some of us don't like pissing away an additional hour on a 3 hour trip with roadside junk food.

How many three-hour road trips do you take in a year? Don't you think the total time you'll save never having to take the car to a gas station, ever, because you can charge it at home while you're sleeping will more than make up for adding some time to your road trips? (Also, for what it's worth, almost no EVs made in the last several years would need to charge for an hour during a three-hour road trip. More like 25 or 30 minutes, max.)

Yeah, you'd have to be averaging a constant 100mph (so, impossible) to need to charge on a three hour trip. Presumably you're not just immediately turning around and coming back, so you can likely charge at your destination and not need to stop at all in the middle of a trip.

Plenty of Teslas have a range <300 miles. https://teslike.com/

And unfortunately not all lodging options have good setups for charging overnight.

We have a Telsa (range is almost 400 miles) and a gas-powered car and rarely take the Tesla.

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This thread has been so interesting. Thanks for all of the comments...

We are hoping to replace one of our cars with an EV next year. My husband's company probably won't have them return to the office ever and my commute is only about 15-20 minutes. When we take trips, we usually go 6-9 hours away and we often take one long break on those trips. Sounds like the EV would work just fine for us.

Now, to be patient and see what models come out in 2022.

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Anonymous wrote:lol people are talking about derechos and the coming apocalypse and whether ice or electric is better. The reality is much more basic - if I drive to Virginia Beach on most electrics I have to stress the whole time about deviating from my path to find a charging station, pray there isn't a big line, and best case scenario sit there for 30-45 minutes. I also have to do this on the way back. A 3.5 hour trip becomes a 4.5 hour trip plus a bunch of additional worry. No thanks. Someday electric technology will be "ready" and that day is when cars can charge in 10 minutes or less and go 300-400 miles AND not be crappily made and boring (looking at you Tesla). That day is not here yet, but when it comes I will gladly buy one

There are no less than 10 supercharger stations on the way from DC to VA Beach. Why do you have to stress when driving one of your hypothetical 'most electrics'?

+1 that post cracked me up. It's not like that at all.

The additional worry is the WAITING for the car to charge up. I hear all these ridiculous Tesla owners being like "Well we just plan to stop and eat lunch while our car charges." That's great for you but some of us don't like pissing away an additional hour on a 3 hour trip with roadside junk food.

How many three-hour road trips do you take in a year? Don't you think the total time you'll save never having to take the car to a gas station, ever, because you can charge it at home while you're sleeping will more than make up for adding some time to your road trips? (Also, for what it's worth, almost no EVs made in the last several years would need to charge for an hour during a three-hour road trip. More like 25 or 30 minutes, max.)

Yeah, you'd have to be averaging a constant 100mph (so, impossible) to need to charge on a three hour trip. Presumably you're not just immediately turning around and coming back, so you can likely charge at your destination and not need to stop at all in the middle of a trip.

Plenty of Teslas have a range <300 miles. https://teslike.com/

And unfortunately not all lodging options have good setups for charging overnight.

We have a Telsa (range is almost 400 miles) and a gas-powered car and rarely take the Tesla.

Our ID.4 has a range of about 250 miles, but if we charge it to 100 percent at home before leaving, then charge for about 20 minutes halfway between here and New York, we can make it there on one charge. There's (finally) now a DC fast charging option near the family we visit there, so we can do another 20 or 30 minute charge up there back to 80 percent, then stop once on the way home, and that's the whole round-trip. (We used to have to stop twice on the way home before charging at the destination was possible.) I'd think a Tesla with a range of nearly 400 miles would make that trip even easier.