My landscaper hates me

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We pay $60 1/2 acre plus $40 for a tiny strip of land at a commercial site. Our guys are immigrants and whenever we ask for extra work it’s extra pay. We tell them that is business is slow to come to our house and we will put them to work. Just spent $1200 on getting out back fence line completely cleared and mulched. It looks spectacular and our guys go out of their way to show up and do a great job every single time. I hope your guy gets a better offer from a neighbor and drops you just before the end of the season. I doubt he will be fetching firewood like ours does.

OP here. This guy is running a business with several crews driving around in shiny new trucks and top of the line lawn equipment. He is doing just fine and has a strong customer base. He is hardly struggling and doesn't need handouts. I am paying the price he bills me and pay on time. Any extra work is also billed at the rate he sets. He just doesn't like women to tell him what to do. I feel bad for his wife.

[Anonymous]

Then why patronize his business if he’s a misogynist jerk?

Because you’d rather save a few dollars than do business with someone you feel comfortable with?

Drop him and pay an extra few bucks- but I am sure you won’t.

[Anonymous]

If anyone knows a thing or two about Latin cultures it’s NOT wrong to point out that there is a history of maschismo behavior among many Latin men and that goes with inferior treatment of women, particularly assertive women. There’s been a lot of sociological studies on this.

OP, as someone who hires help, if you aren’t getting respect from them, fire them. He may be cheap and even may do a good job, but if he isn’t treating you with respect it’ll just eat away at you. Not worth it. Better to find someone else even at a higher rate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We pay $60 1/2 acre plus $40 for a tiny strip of land at a commercial site. Our guys are immigrants and whenever we ask for extra work it’s extra pay. We tell them that is business is slow to come to our house and we will put them to work. Just spent $1200 on getting out back fence line completely cleared and mulched. It looks spectacular and our guys go out of their way to show up and do a great job every single time. I hope your guy gets a better offer from a neighbor and drops you just before the end of the season. I doubt he will be fetching firewood like ours does.

OP here. This guy is running a business with several crews driving around in shiny new trucks and top of the line lawn equipment. He is doing just fine and has a strong customer base. He is hardly struggling and doesn't need handouts. I am paying the price he bills me and pay on time. Any extra work is also billed at the rate he sets. He just doesn't like women to tell him what to do. I feel bad for his wife.

Lmao. But otoh he could just not like YOU. I’m sure his wife is fine with him and him working his ass off with shiny new trucks. Not really hard to imagine why you would be unliked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If anyone knows a thing or two about Latin cultures it’s NOT wrong to point out that there is a history of maschismo behavior among many Latin men and that goes with inferior treatment of women, particularly assertive women. There’s been a lot of sociological studies on this.

OP, as someone who hires help, if you aren’t getting respect from them, fire them. He may be cheap and even may do a good job, but if he isn’t treating you with respect it’ll just eat away at you. Not worth it. Better to find someone else even at a higher rate.

Thanks PP. I know I should probably find someone else. Yes the price is good and he is reliable. Just clearly despises taking direction from me. I am sure I am not the only one. One of my friends fired him within a couple of months because he pushed back on some of her complaints. He was charging her more though. I think he gives me the good deal because I hired him when he was a one truck operation many years ago and he got a lot of work in the neighborhood after that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We pay $60 1/2 acre plus $40 for a tiny strip of land at a commercial site. Our guys are immigrants and whenever we ask for extra work it’s extra pay. We tell them that is business is slow to come to our house and we will put them to work. Just spent $1200 on getting out back fence line completely cleared and mulched. It looks spectacular and our guys go out of their way to show up and do a great job every single time. I hope your guy gets a better offer from a neighbor and drops you just before the end of the season. I doubt he will be fetching firewood like ours does.

OP here. This guy is running a business with several crews driving around in shiny new trucks and top of the line lawn equipment. He is doing just fine and has a strong customer base. He is hardly struggling and doesn't need handouts. I am paying the price he bills me and pay on time. Any extra work is also billed at the rate he sets. He just doesn't like women to tell him what to do. I feel bad for his wife.

Lmao. But otoh he could just not like YOU. I’m sure his wife is fine with him and him working his ass off with shiny new trucks. Not really hard to imagine why you would be unliked.

Actually you are right. He probably doesn't like me, but I think that is the case with most assertive women. Perhaps his wife is fine with the way he treats her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We pay $60 1/2 acre plus $40 for a tiny strip of land at a commercial site. Our guys are immigrants and whenever we ask for extra work it’s extra pay. We tell them that is business is slow to come to our house and we will put them to work. Just spent $1200 on getting out back fence line completely cleared and mulched. It looks spectacular and our guys go out of their way to show up and do a great job every single time. I hope your guy gets a better offer from a neighbor and drops you just before the end of the season. I doubt he will be fetching firewood like ours does.

OP here. This guy is running a business with several crews driving around in shiny new trucks and top of the line lawn equipment. He is doing just fine and has a strong customer base. He is hardly struggling and doesn't need handouts. I am paying the price he bills me and pay on time. Any extra work is also billed at the rate he sets. He just doesn't like women to tell him what to do. I feel bad for his wife.

Lmao. But otoh he could just not like YOU. I’m sure his wife is fine with him and him working his ass off with shiny new trucks. Not really hard to imagine why you would be unliked.

Actually you are right. He probably doesn't like me, but I think that is the case with most assertive women. Perhaps his wife is fine with the way he treats her.

If you were half as “assertive” as you say you are you’d assert yourself in this situation and ask him outright. “Hey - it seems we are having a personality clash when I’m paying you. Is there an issue to discuss or should I find someone else”. But yet you choose to clam up and whine about the Brazilian being rude to you on a forum. Pick a lane.

[Anonymous]

Is the job getting done? Deal with his vibe if the price is right. If it really bothers you, try tipping once in a while. I tip lawn, landscapers, trash guy etc. At the very least, bottles of water in ice bucket out for them. Weeding sucks in this weather. You get what you give...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We pay $60 1/2 acre plus $40 for a tiny strip of land at a commercial site. Our guys are immigrants and whenever we ask for extra work it’s extra pay. We tell them that is business is slow to come to our house and we will put them to work. Just spent $1200 on getting out back fence line completely cleared and mulched. It looks spectacular and our guys go out of their way to show up and do a great job every single time. I hope your guy gets a better offer from a neighbor and drops you just before the end of the season. I doubt he will be fetching firewood like ours does.

OP here. This guy is running a business with several crews driving around in shiny new trucks and top of the line lawn equipment. He is doing just fine and has a strong customer base. He is hardly struggling and doesn't need handouts. I am paying the price he bills me and pay on time. Any extra work is also billed at the rate he sets. He just doesn't like women to tell him what to do. I feel bad for his wife.

Lmao. But otoh he could just not like YOU. I’m sure his wife is fine with him and him working his ass off with shiny new trucks. Not really hard to imagine why you would be unliked.

Actually you are right. He probably doesn't like me, but I think that is the case with most assertive women. Perhaps his wife is fine with the way he treats her.

If you were half as “assertive” as you say you are you’d assert yourself in this situation and ask him outright. “Hey - it seems we are having a personality clash when I’m paying you. Is there an issue to discuss or should I find someone else”. But yet you choose to clam up and whine about the Brazilian being rude to you on a forum. Pick a lane.

Did not say HOW assertive I am. Yes I am assertive. I tell him when he misses things. I ask when I am on the schedule. I let him know when the guys forget to do something. Actually, perhaps I enjoy irritating him...like maybe he deserves me. lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is the job getting done? Deal with his vibe if the price is right. If it really bothers you, try tipping once in a while. I tip lawn, landscapers, trash guy etc. At the very least, bottles of water in ice bucket out for them. Weeding sucks in this weather. You get what you give...

I never provide water or anything to workers. They usually have a cooler on the truck. You are going overboard. I do tip during the holidays.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We pay $60 1/2 acre plus $40 for a tiny strip of land at a commercial site. Our guys are immigrants and whenever we ask for extra work it’s extra pay. We tell them that is business is slow to come to our house and we will put them to work. Just spent $1200 on getting out back fence line completely cleared and mulched. It looks spectacular and our guys go out of their way to show up and do a great job every single time. I hope your guy gets a better offer from a neighbor and drops you just before the end of the season. I doubt he will be fetching firewood like ours does.

OP here. This guy is running a business with several crews driving around in shiny new trucks and top of the line lawn equipment. He is doing just fine and has a strong customer base. He is hardly struggling and doesn't need handouts. I am paying the price he bills me and pay on time. Any extra work is also billed at the rate he sets. He just doesn't like women to tell him what to do. I feel bad for his wife.

Ok, got it. Gutters are separate. In that case, if he’s a jerk to you or is disrespectful then find a new company.

[Anonymous]

Maybe he feels bad for your husband?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s a troll. I think it’s an UMC person who refuses to pay an immigrant who does a job demanding physical labor for her home a living wage.

And it’s disgusting. You should be ashamed, op.

You probably get mad when he drinks out of your garden hose, too.

This.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We pay $60 1/2 acre plus $40 for a tiny strip of land at a commercial site. Our guys are immigrants and whenever we ask for extra work it’s extra pay. We tell them that is business is slow to come to our house and we will put them to work. Just spent $1200 on getting out back fence line completely cleared and mulched. It looks spectacular and our guys go out of their way to show up and do a great job every single time. I hope your guy gets a better offer from a neighbor and drops you just before the end of the season. I doubt he will be fetching firewood like ours does.

OP here. This guy is running a business with several crews driving around in shiny new trucks and top of the line lawn equipment. He is doing just fine and has a strong customer base. He is hardly struggling and doesn't need handouts. I am paying the price he bills me and pay on time. Any extra work is also billed at the rate he sets. He just doesn't like women to tell him what to do. I feel bad for his wife.

Lmao. But otoh he could just not like YOU. I’m sure his wife is fine with him and him working his ass off with shiny new trucks. Not really hard to imagine why you would be unliked.

Actually you are right. He probably doesn't like me, but I think that is the case with most assertive women. Perhaps his wife is fine with the way he treats her.

If you were half as “assertive” as you say you are you’d assert yourself in this situation and ask him outright. “Hey - it seems we are having a personality clash when I’m paying you. Is there an issue to discuss or should I find someone else”. But yet you choose to clam up and whine about the Brazilian being rude to you on a forum. Pick a lane.

Did not say HOW assertive I am. Yes I am assertive. I tell him when he misses things. I ask when I am on the schedule. I let him know when the guys forget to do something. Actually, perhaps I enjoy irritating him...like maybe he deserves me. lol

Given he does landscaping, have you asked for his help removing the stick from your ass ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If anyone knows a thing or two about Latin cultures it’s NOT wrong to point out that there is a history of maschismo behavior among many Latin men and that goes with inferior treatment of women, particularly assertive women. There’s been a lot of sociological studies on this.

OP, as someone who hires help, if you aren’t getting respect from them, fire them. He may be cheap and even may do a good job, but if he isn’t treating you with respect it’ll just eat away at you. Not worth it. Better to find someone else even at a higher rate.

You do not know what you are talking about. OP is one of those hyper sensitive woman who see misogyny every time a men does nit hold the door for her or not like her.