Wife would be ok never having sex again

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My wife told me exactly this about a year ago. We are early 50s. Sex 3-4 times since. It sucks

My wife tried this too, much earlier. I gave her some choices: reconsider; open marriage; leave me. She reconsidered.

You threatened her. She thought about the lifestyle, kids, who knows. Now she is simply preforming like a trained seal hoping you have a early demise because it's often better to be a widow than a divorcee. I mean really who tells their partner they'd better do this OR ELSE. That only invites deep resentments and hostility.

I did not tell her to "do" anything. I gave her options. She choose to stay married to me, and that means a normal sex life. She could have freely decided otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Yep I was at a Bunco event. Most of the women would love Anti-Viagra for the man OP!!

Truth be told that would be a big seller.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My wife was at an event with a group of women. One said she was reading a book about how not to hate your spouse when you had little kids. That prompted a show of hands for who would be o.k. never having sex again and all the women raised their hands. My wife shared that as something that made her feel positive because she didn't feel alone in her lack of libido.

The background is that we have sex about every 4-6 weeks. I've talked to her about how this a lot lower than I'm happy with, and it makes me feel unloved and disconnected. She says that there's nothing wrong with me and it's on her end. Lately she's been talking to a therapist but doesn't feel like she's making any progress. I think the women she was with had smaller children. Ours are early teens.

I responded that I imagined it made her feel very isolated if she thought she was the only one with this issue and it probably felt good not to feel so alone. What I felt was pretty hopeless that she'd be o.k. never having sex again. I'm also nervous that having a bunch of friends saying the same thing will encourage her to stop making any effort to improve our sex life, allowing it to continue to deteriorate.

I don't want to cheat, divorce, or "declare our marriage open." I also don't want to have sex with my wife if she doesn't want to have it. It's tough not to despair.

Inform her the marriage is Open, then go out and meet your needs.. It's not cheating: it's a lifestyle choice, similar to a wife choosing to never/rarely have sex with husband.

I sense your wife really doesn't care what you do or who with going by all your posts.

I feel a need to advise other men with low-libido wives of how to save their marriage.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is a fallacy to believe that women aren't interested in sex in their middle ages.

I do think their is a correlation with the type of women that men choose to be their wives in their youth and their eventual decline/disinterest in sex with their marital partners. The women were probably lower libido women to begin with.

I am single and have always enjoyed good sex. So have my other single friends and single relatives. We are active, attractive, and high-earners, and have no problem finding suitable mates as we age.

So, don't give up there are plenty of us out there. Now, if you want to pull some of the "shenigans" that you are used to doing in your marriage, then stay married.

BTW, open marriages are not the answer and neither is cheating. Divorce, get your sh*t together, and meet someone who can enthusiastically meet your needs.

You are single and no different from divorced women who find their sex drive after a divorce. Not the same as people who have been married for 20+ yrs with children. Get off your high horse. You have no idea what you are talking about.

No, mine was never lost. I dumped men who were bad in bed. I declined a marriage offers because of bad sex. Intimacy and sex were taught to be important by both parents, so it is not something I compromise on. I see the other end of the conversation that you are not hearing from women. For many, not all, its all a part of the game of marriage.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Try this: go one YouTube and study some clips on how to give a relaxing massage. Then one weekend, see if you can unload the kids for a night. Take your wife to her favorite restaurant or make her favorite meal. Ask her questions about things in her life or her interests and listen to her responses. Suggest a movie in bed or maybe a favorite tv show. When the show is done, say something like: hey, it's been a long week. Why don't I give you a back rub? Then take the coconut oil you bought earlier in the week, out of the hot water you have been warming it with and apply a little to her bare back. If she gets nervous, show her it's just coconut oil and it's good for her skin. Take your time and get her entire back, shoulders and arms. Pay attention to her body as it will tell you when to rub harder or when it's too hard. You can start by just pushing her shirt up on her back but eventually, ask she relaxes and is more comfortable and as you want to get to her shoulders, the shirt should come off. As you wrap things up on her back, make sure to finish in the lower back area and start working the upper buttocks (stay clear of the crack). Slowly, gently work off her bottoms and massage her ass checks but, again, stay clear of anything that could be perceived as sexual. Got all the way down to her feet, applying the oil as needed. Also, make sure the room is warm enough that she will be comfortable, not cold, naked. When you work her thighs, don't attempt to graze, touch or even tease her pussy. After you have really worked the feet, ask her to turn over and work your way up, again, avoiding the pussy. Massaging the boobs is ok, just don't give any special attention to the nipple. You can also YouTube boob massages to learn the difference between a sexual massage and a relaxing massage. Make sure you get all the way to the fingers and hands. When you finish, pull the sheet up over her, get back in bed and ask her to rest her head on your chest. Then give her a facial massage (no oil here, use a towel to wipe any excess from your hands prior to starting. When you finish, ask if that was ok and then ask if there is anything else she wants to watch.

At this point, she will be amazed that you have spent that much time touching her without pushing for sex. She may think "he finally gets me". She may get turned on and jump your ones. But most likely, she'll be skeptical. It's important for a woman to know you can touch her and she can touch you and it doesn't have to lead to sex or a fight about sex.

If she brings up sex at the end, just answer, you know I love to have sex/make love with you but don't feel obligated. I know you had a long week and I just wanted you to feel good.

For many women who have lost their way, something like this can renew a spark, make them look at you differently. Where the majority of what she normally sees after 15-20 years together is the things that annoy her, now she sees the reason she fell in love, the reason she married you. It make take another session for her to believe it wasn't just a ploy to get in her pants (of course it was) but it will be worth the investment if you can jumpstart her libido.

Remember this doesn't mean the the next night you are sitting in bed naked with your arms folded behind your head and porn on the tv, screaming "my turn tonight" the minute she emerges from the bathroom.

Pretty much a load for most. Like another poster wrote, "stop trying to make fetch happen". For women who "lost their way" sounds like you really have no clue and are making excuses. If you're not interested nor attracted it's not fun no matter what tricks you use. Those women are thinking at the end, "thank God that's over. I'm good for a month now". lol

+1. This might work for some women, but by and large, the women who just want to be left alone or to go to sleep aren't going to love this lengthy procedure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My wife told me exactly this about a year ago. We are early 50s. Sex 3-4 times since. It sucks

My wife tried this too, much earlier. I gave her some choices: reconsider; open marriage; leave me. She reconsidered.

You threatened her. She thought about the lifestyle, kids, who knows. Now she is simply preforming like a trained seal hoping you have a early demise because it's often better to be a widow than a divorcee. I mean really who tells their partner they'd better do this OR ELSE. That only invites deep resentments and hostility.

I did not tell her to "do" anything. I gave her options. She choose to stay married to me, and that means a normal sex life. She could have freely decided otherwise.

Nope you threatened her. She only has sex with you because she "has" too.

[Anonymous]

Women use low libido as an excuse.

Every woman I've known who said this ended up having an affair. All along, the problem wasn't low libido; it was lack of sexual attraction to their spouse.

Barring a health or mental health issue (e.g., painful sex, cancer, or severe depression), the issue is often that, while the woman likes her husband and may even love him, she just no longer feels sexually excited about him. She may even truly believe it's just low libido... until she meets a guy who does excite her. But if her marriage is otherwise good and stable and financially good, she won't leave her husband.

I'm sure that sounds harsh, but I'm just going by a number of situations I've seen, female friends and relatives.

The problem is that other women will encourage the self-delusion that it's low libido by insisting that women just aren't sexual or naturally lose interest in sex. That's not true.

Again, health or mental health issues are different. If your wife is suffering from depression or another illness or is taking medication that has side effects, then what I've said above does not apply.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Try this: go one YouTube and study some clips on how to give a relaxing massage. Then one weekend, see if you can unload the kids for a night. Take your wife to her favorite restaurant or make her favorite meal. Ask her questions about things in her life or her interests and listen to her responses. Suggest a movie in bed or maybe a favorite tv show. When the show is done, say something like: hey, it's been a long week. Why don't I give you a back rub? Then take the coconut oil you bought earlier in the week, out of the hot water you have been warming it with and apply a little to her bare back. If she gets nervous, show her it's just coconut oil and it's good for her skin. Take your time and get her entire back, shoulders and arms. Pay attention to her body as it will tell you when to rub harder or when it's too hard. You can start by just pushing her shirt up on her back but eventually, ask she relaxes and is more comfortable and as you want to get to her shoulders, the shirt should come off. As you wrap things up on her back, make sure to finish in the lower back area and start working the upper buttocks (stay clear of the crack). Slowly, gently work off her bottoms and massage her ass checks but, again, stay clear of anything that could be perceived as sexual. Got all the way down to her feet, applying the oil as needed. Also, make sure the room is warm enough that she will be comfortable, not cold, naked. When you work her thighs, don't attempt to graze, touch or even tease her pussy. After you have really worked the feet, ask her to turn over and work your way up, again, avoiding the pussy. Massaging the boobs is ok, just don't give any special attention to the nipple. You can also YouTube boob massages to learn the difference between a sexual massage and a relaxing massage. Make sure you get all the way to the fingers and hands. When you finish, pull the sheet up over her, get back in bed and ask her to rest her head on your chest. Then give her a facial massage (no oil here, use a towel to wipe any excess from your hands prior to starting. When you finish, ask if that was ok and then ask if there is anything else she wants to watch.

At this point, she will be amazed that you have spent that much time touching her without pushing for sex. She may think "he finally gets me". She may get turned on and jump your ones. But most likely, she'll be skeptical. It's important for a woman to know you can touch her and she can touch you and it doesn't have to lead to sex or a fight about sex.

If she brings up sex at the end, just answer, you know I love to have sex/make love with you but don't feel obligated. I know you had a long week and I just wanted you to feel good.

For many women who have lost their way, something like this can renew a spark, make them look at you differently. Where the majority of what she normally sees after 15-20 years together is the things that annoy her, now she sees the reason she fell in love, the reason she married you. It make take another session for her to believe it wasn't just a ploy to get in her pants (of course it was) but it will be worth the investment if you can jumpstart her libido.

Remember this doesn't mean the the next night you are sitting in bed naked with your arms folded behind your head and porn on the tv, screaming "my turn tonight" the minute she emerges from the bathroom.

Pretty much a load for most. Like another poster wrote, "stop trying to make fetch happen". For women who "lost their way" sounds like you really have no clue and are making excuses. If you're not interested nor attracted it's not fun no matter what tricks you use. Those women are thinking at the end, "thank God that's over. I'm good for a month now". lol

+1. This might work for some women, but by and large, the women who just want to be left alone or to go to sleep aren't going to love this lengthy procedure.

No kidding. A major turn off.

Take the wife on a nice 7 day cruise. See if anything develops, BUT DON'T PRESSURE. Why don't people learn to use better psychology. When you pressure or threatened it has the opposite effect. You also lose trust.

[Anonymous]

I cut off my husband too. Not for any of the multiple reasons stated above. He's free to pursue any booty he wants AFTER I get my half of his s and file for divorce.

He's still here, clean and obedient.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Women use low libido as an excuse.

Every woman I've known who said this ended up having an affair. All along, the problem wasn't low libido; it was lack of sexual attraction to their spouse.

Barring a health or mental health issue (e.g., painful sex, cancer, or severe depression), the issue is often that, while the woman likes her husband and may even love him, she just no longer feels sexually excited about him. She may even truly believe it's just low libido... until she meets a guy who does excite her. But if her marriage is otherwise good and stable and financially good, she won't leave her husband.

I'm sure that sounds harsh, but I'm just going by a number of situations I've seen, female friends and relatives.

The problem is that other women will encourage the self-delusion that it's low libido by insisting that women just aren't sexual or naturally lose interest in sex. That's not true.

Again, health or mental health issues are different. If your wife is suffering from depression or another illness or is taking medication that has side effects, then what I've said above does not apply.

It's all a game. Instead of insisting that the men improve their performance or work on other issues, the women play games with sex. Also, men can have excellent performance once divorced . . . they know their single partners will not tolerate their poor performance and remain in the relationship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I cut off my husband too. Not for any of the multiple reasons stated above. He's free to pursue any booty he wants AFTER I get my half of his s and file for divorce.

He's still here, clean and obedient.

Why did you cut him off?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I cut off my husband too. Not for any of the multiple reasons stated above. He's free to pursue any booty he wants AFTER I get my half of his s and file for divorce.

He's still here, clean and obedient.

Yep, as long as he is not trolling the sites, internet boards and dating sites, you can have him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a fallacy to believe that women aren't interested in sex in their middle ages.

I do think their is a correlation with the type of women that men choose to be their wives in their youth and their eventual decline/disinterest in sex with their marital partners. The women were probably lower libido women to begin with.

I am single and have always enjoyed good sex. So have my other single friends and single relatives. We are active, attractive, and high-earners, and have no problem finding suitable mates as we age.

So, don't give up there are plenty of us out there. Now, if you want to pull some of the "shenigans" that you are used to doing in your marriage, then stay married.

BTW, open marriages are not the answer and neither is cheating. Divorce, get your sh*t together, and meet someone who can enthusiastically meet your needs.

You are single and no different from divorced women who find their sex drive after a divorce. Not the same as people who have been married for 20+ yrs with children. Get off your high horse. You have no idea what you are talking about.

No, mine was never lost. I dumped men who were bad in bed. I declined a marriage offers because of bad sex. Intimacy and sex were taught to be important by both parents, so it is not something I compromise on. I see the other end of the conversation that you are not hearing from women. For many, not all, its all a part of the game of marriage.

Each to their own. At least you know what you want.

I only dated men who were good earners and responsible. Most important criteria for me. I also wouldn't date anyone who put sex #1 in a marriage. Happily married for many years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Try this: go one YouTube and study some clips on how to give a relaxing massage. Then one weekend, see if you can unload the kids for a night. Take your wife to her favorite restaurant or make her favorite meal. Ask her questions about things in her life or her interests and listen to her responses. Suggest a movie in bed or maybe a favorite tv show. When the show is done, say something like: hey, it's been a long week. Why don't I give you a back rub? Then take the coconut oil you bought earlier in the week, out of the hot water you have been warming it with and apply a little to her bare back. If she gets nervous, show her it's just coconut oil and it's good for her skin. Take your time and get her entire back, shoulders and arms. Pay attention to her body as it will tell you when to rub harder or when it's too hard. You can start by just pushing her shirt up on her back but eventually, ask she relaxes and is more comfortable and as you want to get to her shoulders, the shirt should come off. As you wrap things up on her back, make sure to finish in the lower back area and start working the upper buttocks (stay clear of the crack). Slowly, gently work off her bottoms and massage her ass checks but, again, stay clear of anything that could be perceived as sexual. Got all the way down to her feet, applying the oil as needed. Also, make sure the room is warm enough that she will be comfortable, not cold, naked. When you work her thighs, don't attempt to graze, touch or even tease her pussy. After you have really worked the feet, ask her to turn over and work your way up, again, avoiding the pussy. Massaging the boobs is ok, just don't give any special attention to the nipple. You can also YouTube boob massages to learn the difference between a sexual massage and a relaxing massage. Make sure you get all the way to the fingers and hands. When you finish, pull the sheet up over her, get back in bed and ask her to rest her head on your chest. Then give her a facial massage (no oil here, use a towel to wipe any excess from your hands prior to starting. When you finish, ask if that was ok and then ask if there is anything else she wants to watch.

At this point, she will be amazed that you have spent that much time touching her without pushing for sex. She may think "he finally gets me". She may get turned on and jump your ones. But most likely, she'll be skeptical. It's important for a woman to know you can touch her and she can touch you and it doesn't have to lead to sex or a fight about sex.

If she brings up sex at the end, just answer, you know I love to have sex/make love with you but don't feel obligated. I know you had a long week and I just wanted you to feel good.

For many women who have lost their way, something like this can renew a spark, make them look at you differently. Where the majority of what she normally sees after 15-20 years together is the things that annoy her, now she sees the reason she fell in love, the reason she married you. It make take another session for her to believe it wasn't just a ploy to get in her pants (of course it was) but it will be worth the investment if you can jumpstart her libido.

Remember this doesn't mean the the next night you are sitting in bed naked with your arms folded behind your head and porn on the tv, screaming "my turn tonight" the minute she emerges from the bathroom.

Pretty much a load for most. Like another poster wrote, "stop trying to make fetch happen". For women who "lost their way" sounds like you really have no clue and are making excuses. If you're not interested nor attracted it's not fun no matter what tricks you use. Those women are thinking at the end, "thank God that's over. I'm good for a month now". lol

+1. This might work for some women, but by and large, the women who just want to be left alone or to go to sleep aren't going to love this lengthy procedure.

No kidding. A major turn off.

Take the wife on a nice 7 day cruise. See if anything develops, BUT DON'T PRESSURE. Why don't people learn to use better psychology. When you pressure or threatened it has the opposite effect. You also lose trust.

I don't know...I think there is something to it...
A lot of women want intimacy with their husbands without the pressure to have sex. Many times it's just awkward having sex with someone you no longer do it with regularly. Doing some of these steps outlined above might help some couples feel more comfortable or desired ....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's been said many times on here. Men need sex to feel an emotional connection. Women need an emotional connection to desire sex.

When you have young children, you are drained at the end of the day. There is nothing left to feel an emotional connection with. You just want to go to bed and get some sleep before doing it again the next day.

DH and DW need a heart to heart. If indeed the children's needs have drained the libido, then DH has to find a way to help. Hire a part time nanny. Hire a cleaning service. Do whatever necessary to give her more time and reduce the stress,

I have experienced exactly as you described. What I wanted was not necessarily sex, but for her to want me sexually. Yes, if I whine and complain, she will acquiesce, but with all the excitement of cleaning another food mess.

Nine months without any sexual activity, so I understand too well.