Region-Wide 2017 SAT Scores (DC/MD/VA) By School

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Anonymous wrote:Plot them against FARMS rates and you will see a perfectly straight line. It's 100% a question of wealth.


This absolutely is not true.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Plot them against FARMS rates and you will see a perfectly straight line. It's 100% a question of wealth.


This absolutely is not true.


the special sauce is the asian population yeah I went there because its factual
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is Banneker's scores so much lower than SWW? I thought that since they're both application schools in DC, they'd have similar scores.

I'm obviously a DC parent of a much younger child--basically, clueless.



Student demographics. SWW is far more affluent and white. Banneker is majority Blck and kids who qualify for FARMS.


This helps explain DC and the SAT: https://www.collegeboard.org/program-results/2014/washington-d.c.

The achievement gap is HUGE.


PP here who posed the question--thanks. I didn't realize there was that big of a difference in demographics. I don't know anyone with kids at Banneker, and only one family with a kid at SWW--a black, Ivy-educated family.

It will be interesting to see how things change in DC over the next decade or so (that's when my kid will be in high school). I hope some progress will be made on the achievement gap.
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Anonymous wrote:Moco/pg/Howard /Frederick
Would have 14 of top 25

Apps /Axps/pwps/fcps/lcps
Would have 11.



OTOH there are 46 in the updated list with scores below the US average. Of the 46, 4 are from Virginia (1 from ACPS, 1 from FCPS, and 2 from PWCPS), 28 are from Maryland (7 from MCPS and 21 from PGCPS), and 14 are from DCPS.

What is the % of low income students in fcps, dcps, mcps, pg.. ? SATs are a reflection of SES for the most part. But, if you look at the top 10 schools on that list, areas where they are upper middle to upper income, that should tell you something.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Moco/pg/Howard /Frederick
Would have 14 of top 25

Apps /Axps/pwps/fcps/lcps
Would have 11.



OTOH there are 46 in the updated list with scores below the US average. Of the 46, 4 are from Virginia (1 from ACPS, 1 from FCPS, and 2 from PWCPS), 28 are from Maryland (7 from MCPS and 21 from PGCPS), and 14 are from DCPS.

What is the % of low income students in fcps, dcps, mcps, pg.. ? SATs are a reflection of SES for the most part. But, if you look at the top 10 schools on that list, areas where they are upper middle to upper income, that should tell you something.


% of students who qualify for free or reduced price meals subsidies

FCPS 29%

ACPS 63%

DCPS 79%

PGPC 63.8%

HCPS 21%

PWCPS 37.5%
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Moco/pg/Howard /Frederick
Would have 14 of top 25

Apps /Axps/pwps/fcps/lcps
Would have 11.



OTOH there are 46 in the updated list with scores below the US average. Of the 46, 4 are from Virginia (1 from ACPS, 1 from FCPS, and 2 from PWCPS), 28 are from Maryland (7 from MCPS and 21 from PGCPS), and 14 are from DCPS.

What is the % of low income students in fcps, dcps, mcps, pg.. ? SATs are a reflection of SES for the most part. But, if you look at the top 10 schools on that list, areas where they are upper middle to upper income, that should tell you something.


% of students who qualify for free or reduced price meals subsidies

FCPS 29%

ACPS 63%

DCPS 79%

PGPC 63.8%

HCPS 21%

PWCPS 37.5%


And MCPS 35%
Anonymous
Wow HOCO def has the best school system. Good for them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Wow HOCO def has the best school system. Good for them.



Translation - HOCO has the fewest poor students.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow HOCO def has the best school system. Good for them.



Translation - HOCO has the fewest poor students.


Do they have a magnet high school program? Could also explain the scores.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Howard.

Centenniel 1320
Marriotts ridge 1300
River hill 1300
Glenelg 1280
Mt Hebron 1260
Atholton 1250

Frederick
Urbana 1250.

You can fit them in.


Howard county is never considered part of the DC metro area.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is Banneker's scores so much lower than SWW? I thought that since they're both application schools in DC, they'd have similar scores.

I'm obviously a DC parent of a much younger child--basically, clueless.



Student demographics. SWW is far more affluent and white. Banneker is majority Blck and kids who qualify for FARMS.


This helps explain DC and the SAT: https://www.collegeboard.org/program-results/2014/washington-d.c.

The achievement gap is HUGE.


PP here who posed the question--thanks. I didn't realize there was that big of a difference in demographics. I don't know anyone with kids at Banneker, and only one family with a kid at SWW--a black, Ivy-educated family.

It will be interesting to see how things change in DC over the next decade or so (that's when my kid will be in high school). I hope some progress will be made on the achievement gap.



DCPS isn’t closing the gap at all — it is getting worse. Some DC charter schools are doing better at it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Howard.

Centenniel 1320
Marriotts ridge 1300
River hill 1300
Glenelg 1280
Mt Hebron 1260
Atholton 1250

Frederick
Urbana 1250.

You can fit them in.


Howard county is never considered part of the DC metro area.


I added the scores anyway, as someone wanted them added and there are obviously commuters to the DC area from places like Columbia. Also, doing so resulted in having three big counties from each of VA (FCPS, LCPS, and PWCPS) and MD (HCPS, MCPS, PGCPS), in addition to DCPS and the smaller school systems in NoVa (ACPS, APS, and FCCPS).

But I added the College Board scores as reported by HCPS to its School Board this fall, not the numbers above, which appear to have been rounded up substantially in most instances.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Moco schools would be even higher with Blair / Rm magnets in one school like Tj

Or the thousands of kids in one of moco or upper NW dozen of the best privates in the region.


This isn’t really intelligible but a MoCo magnet like TJ would probably pull down scores at other MCPS schools.


The Blair and RM magnets are the same as TJ and already drain the best schools like Tj does in fairfax. Moco also has an even bigger drain with the elite privates all over Moco and adjacent upper NW DC .


Wrong. TJ has about 450 students per grade, whereas Blair and RM combined only have 200. Add to that the fact that the MoCo magnets are housed within other schools, rather than at dedicated facilities, and the number of kids transferring to RM or Blair from schools like Whitman and Churchill is much lower than the number transferring out of the top FCPS schools to TJ.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:MCPS 33%

http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/about/statistics.aspx

That's 2010-11 data. 2017-18 data is 35.1% FARMS.
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/about/Refresh_2011_Content_Pieces/AtaGlance17.pdf

I think another interesting comparison point would be ESOL rates. MCPS is 14.2%, and I know that the high schools have sizeable ESOL populations - including many students in families supporting the embassies in DC. Good educational backgrounds but still learning English. Wonder how that plays into the SAT scores.

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