Teen death at Whitman?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Party with drinking was broken up by parents or cops. Kids fled. This teen never made it home. SO tragic. Many teens drink...almost none end up fleeing a party and freezing in the woods. This is tragic for this family. Just an accident.

Wow so sad for the family. Makes me angry with the party house parents that allowed the drinking to happen in their home -- either directly knowing about it or indirectly by turning a blind eye.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Party with drinking was broken up by parents or cops. Kids fled. This teen never made it home. SO tragic. Many teens drink...almost none end up fleeing a party and freezing in the woods. This is tragic for this family. Just an accident.

Wow so sad for the family. Makes me angry with the party house parents that allowed the drinking to happen in their home -- either directly knowing about it or indirectly by turning a blind eye.

They may not have known. Sometimes the parents aren't even home when parties happen.

[Anonymous]

I will most definitely not be the "cool" parent who allows my teen to let his friends drink at our house. Unbelievable how stupid some parents are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Party with drinking was broken up by parents or cops. Kids fled. This teen never made it home. SO tragic. Many teens drink...almost none end up fleeing a party and freezing in the woods. This is tragic for this family. Just an accident.

Wow so sad for the family. Makes me angry with the party house parents that allowed the drinking to happen in their home -- either directly knowing about it or indirectly by turning a blind eye.

They may not have known. Sometimes the parents aren't even home when parties happen.

Then they should have known what their kid was up to, it's their job as parents. There are no longer excuses for these parties, especially in this area where they have been screamed about for years. You would have to be deaf, dumb and blind to not know if your kid were capable of hosting something like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I will most definitely not be the "cool" parent who allows my teen to let his friends drink at our house. Unbelievable how stupid some parents are.

We have no idea what happened here but the lack of a sheltered place to drink possibly combined with fear of a parent finding out about drinking may have been what caused this to happen. Or a kid could have been so drunk they could not get themselves home safely which was far more likely at an unattended party.

Teenagers will drink. And teenagers will have sex.

The challenge is to make sure when they do either they do it responsibly and safely.

You can be self righteous and pretend otherwise but you are far more likely to fail as a parent if you are busy pretending your lecturing is going to keep them safe rather than putting the structure in their lives to minimize the chance of something terrible happening.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Party with drinking was broken up by parents or cops. Kids fled. This teen never made it home. SO tragic. Many teens drink...almost none end up fleeing a party and freezing in the woods. This is tragic for this family. Just an accident.

Wow so sad for the family. Makes me angry with the party house parents that allowed the drinking to happen in their home -- either directly knowing about it or indirectly by turning a blind eye.

They may not have known. Sometimes the parents aren't even home when parties happen.

Then they should have known what their kid was up to, it's their job as parents. There are no longer excuses for these parties, especially in this area where they have been screamed about for years. You would have to be deaf, dumb and blind to not know if your kid were capable of hosting something like this.

This is just an insane and ridiculous statement. These are high schoolers. Do you not let them out of your sight for one single second? Do you attend school with them? Call their friends parents ahead of time every single time they go out? Attend all their sports practices and activities? Accompany them whenever they set foot out of the house? Listen in on their phone conversations and check their texts/social media postings daily? Unless you answer yes to all of these, then no, you wll not know what your kids are up to. And if you did answer yes to all of these questions, you have a whole host of other problems to deal with.

[Anonymous]

What about his friends? Did they not have a designated semi-sober one? How are these friends doing who lost track of him? this will haunt them forever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about his friends? Did they not have a designated semi-sober one? How are these friends doing who lost track of him? this will haunt them forever.

I've wondered this too and maybe this has written somewhere but is it not possible they were within walking distance of their homes and separated willingly? I'm not assuming earlier posts in this thread have inside info.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What about his friends? Did they not have a designated semi-sober one? How are these friends doing who lost track of him? this will haunt them forever.

I've wondered this too and maybe this has written somewhere but is it not possible they were within walking distance of their homes and separated willingly? I'm not assuming earlier posts in this thread have inside info.

Yes, I think that's the issue. I don't think most kids would think they needed a designated walker, right? Probably thought as long as no cars were involved, there was no risk of danger.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Party with drinking was broken up by parents or cops. Kids fled. This teen never made it home. SO tragic. Many teens drink...almost none end up fleeing a party and freezing in the woods. This is tragic for this family. Just an accident.

Wow so sad for the family. Makes me angry with the party house parents that allowed the drinking to happen in their home -- either directly knowing about it or indirectly by turning a blind eye.

They may not have known. Sometimes the parents aren't even home when parties happen.

Then they should have known what their kid was up to, it's their job as parents. There are no longer excuses for these parties, especially in this area where they have been screamed about for years. You would have to be deaf, dumb and blind to not know if your kid were capable of hosting something like this.

"I will never do X, therefore Y will never happen to my kid" is a tale we all tell ourselves to make ourselves feel better about the potential for awful things happening to our children. But it's magical thinking. Awful things can happen no matter what we do or don't do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Party with drinking was broken up by parents or cops. Kids fled. This teen never made it home. SO tragic. Many teens drink...almost none end up fleeing a party and freezing in the woods. This is tragic for this family. Just an accident.

Wow so sad for the family. Makes me angry with the party house parents that allowed the drinking to happen in their home -- either directly knowing about it or indirectly by turning a blind eye.

They may not have known. Sometimes the parents aren't even home when parties happen.

Then they should have known what their kid was up to, it's their job as parents. There are no longer excuses for these parties, especially in this area where they have been screamed about for years. You would have to be deaf, dumb and blind to not know if your kid were capable of hosting something like this.

"I will never do X, therefore Y will never happen to my kid" is a tale we all tell ourselves to make ourselves feel better about the potential for awful things happening to our children. But it's magical thinking. Awful things can happen no matter what we do or don't do.

So true. It's a dangerously naive way to think (as well as horrifyingly sanctimonious). There but for the grace of god....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Party with drinking was broken up by parents or cops. Kids fled. This teen never made it home. SO tragic. Many teens drink...almost none end up fleeing a party and freezing in the woods. This is tragic for this family. Just an accident.

Wow so sad for the family. Makes me angry with the party house parents that allowed the drinking to happen in their home -- either directly knowing about it or indirectly by turning a blind eye.

They may not have known. Sometimes the parents aren't even home when parties happen.

Then they should have known what their kid was up to, it's their job as parents. There are no longer excuses for these parties, especially in this area where they have been screamed about for years. You would have to be deaf, dumb and blind to not know if your kid were capable of hosting something like this.

I agree. If you're buying alcohol you're not drinking, then you need to figure out who is drinking it.

Stupid parenting 101, oops, sorry your kid died. Parents can be sh*ts b/c they don't want their kids to be unpopular so they provide alcohol.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I will most definitely not be the "cool" parent who allows my teen to let his friends drink at our house. Unbelievable how stupid some parents are.

We have no idea what happened here but the lack of a sheltered place to drink possibly combined with fear of a parent finding out about drinking may have been what caused this to happen. Or a kid could have been so drunk they could not get themselves home safely which was far more likely at an unattended party.

Teenagers will drink. And teenagers will have sex.

The challenge is to make sure when they do either they do it responsibly and safely.

You can be self righteous and pretend otherwise but you are far more likely to fail as a parent if you are busy pretending your lecturing is going to keep them safe rather than putting the structure in their lives to minimize the chance of something terrible happening.

NP. But they shouldn't. And I refuse to give into this "boys will be boys" mentality. I'm sure you love being the cool parent but you are doing your kids no favors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Party with drinking was broken up by parents or cops. Kids fled. This teen never made it home. SO tragic. Many teens drink...almost none end up fleeing a party and freezing in the woods. This is tragic for this family. Just an accident.

Wow so sad for the family. Makes me angry with the party house parents that allowed the drinking to happen in their home -- either directly knowing about it or indirectly by turning a blind eye.

They may not have known. Sometimes the parents aren't even home when parties happen.

Then they should have known what their kid was up to, it's their job as parents. There are no longer excuses for these parties, especially in this area where they have been screamed about for years. You would have to be deaf, dumb and blind to not know if your kid were capable of hosting something like this.

"I will never do X, therefore Y will never happen to my kid" is a tale we all tell ourselves to make ourselves feel better about the potential for awful things happening to our children. But it's magical thinking. Awful things can happen no matter what we do or don't do.

True. But just as many parents use your reasoning to go ahead and allow their kids to party, etc. Thinking they can't stop it anyway.

[Anonymous]

Underage kids might be having sex, but they're not buying their own alcohol.