Missing Muslim teen found dead in Fairfax County - suspect arrested

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At least the Post had the decency to turn the comments off for their article.

The Post does nothing out of decency.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They say there was some sort of dispute between the driver of the car and the group of kids walking. The driver got out swinging a baseball bat and maybe knocked her down or she fell trying to get away.

It seems like a random attack, yet, the assailant abducted her. That seems unusual and particularly scary. I'm glad that they have the one suspect in custody and I hope that if there are any more suspects that they are apprehended ASAP.

Still, I don't see any way this was not a hate crime under the circumstances.

Who has said it was not?
It will be classified as hate crime or not when they bring charges.
And it can always be added to the charges or dropped.
Then the jury will decide if it was a hate crime.

[Anonymous]

Fairfax County Police have tweeted that they are NOT investigating this case as a hate crime.

https://twitter.com/fairfaxpolice

[Anonymous]

I'm so sick of seeing the "why were they out at that hour of the night/morning?" posts (here and on social media).

Being out after dark is NOT a crime. Not even if you are under 18. Not even if you are under 18 AND have a vagina!

Attacking someone IS a crime. Killing someone IS a crime.

Focus on the actual crimes committed!

I can't believe it's 2017 and we're still victim shaming. Or that people don't understand/realize when they say things like, "why was she out so late" it IS victim shaming.

"I would never let my daughter walk at that time of night." That's great for you, but that still doesn't make what she, her friends, or their parents did wrong.

Such a tragedy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They say there was some sort of dispute between the driver of the car and the group of kids walking. The driver got out swinging a baseball bat and maybe knocked her down or she fell trying to get away.

It seems like a random attack, yet, the assailant abducted her. That seems unusual and particularly scary. I'm glad that they have the one suspect in custody and I hope that if there are any more suspects that they are apprehended ASAP.

My speculation based on watching/reading too many mystery and crime stories:

It's not a good idea to walk on that stretch of road to begin with but a group of teenage girls and very little to no cars, and the group was spilling into the street thinking their was no need to be as cautious as daytime.

Driver comes up quickly and the girls have to quickly move out of the way and they start shouting after the driver, maybe waving phones like they will take pics or call police.

Driver stops and confrontation ensues and driver might be drunk/tipsy and/or angry likely over something not related at all to these girls. They just fuel his anger. Maybe this girl threatens to call police and the driver gets scared. He wants to intimidate the girls and uses the baseball bat but accidentally hits the girl. The other girls have run off so he doesn't think they saw what happened. He picks her up and has the intention of getting help but maybe she dies in the car and he panics and then he leaves in her at the location she is found.

Next day he still feels guilty, thinks maybe he is wrong that she was dead and tries to go back and find her except police are there and notice him lurking around and stop to question him and then arrest him.

You're basically trying to make the killer look sympathetic. Sorry, I don't care what was said, anyone who gets out of their car swinging a metal baseball bat at people deserves no sympathy. Maybe have some sympathy for the family and stop speculating and justifying the death of their child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They say there was some sort of dispute between the driver of the car and the group of kids walking. The driver got out swinging a baseball bat and maybe knocked her down or she fell trying to get away.

It seems like a random attack, yet, the assailant abducted her. That seems unusual and particularly scary. I'm glad that they have the one suspect in custody and I hope that if there are any more suspects that they are apprehended ASAP.

My speculation based on watching/reading too many mystery and crime stories:

It's not a good idea to walk on that stretch of road to begin with but a group of teenage girls and very little to no cars, and the group was spilling into the street thinking their was no need to be as cautious as daytime.

Driver comes up quickly and the girls have to quickly move out of the way and they start shouting after the driver, maybe waving phones like they will take pics or call police.

Driver stops and confrontation ensues and driver might be drunk/tipsy and/or angry likely over something not related at all to these girls. They just fuel his anger. Maybe this girl threatens to call police and the driver gets scared. He wants to intimidate the girls and uses the baseball bat but accidentally hits the girl. The other girls have run off so he doesn't think they saw what happened. He picks her up and has the intention of getting help but maybe she dies in the car and he panics and then he leaves in her at the location she is found.

Next day he still feels guilty, thinks maybe he is wrong that she was dead and tries to go back and find her except police are there and notice him lurking around and stop to question him and then arrest him.

Except that the time from when this "dispute" happened and the time the suspect was arrested, was about 12 hours - there was no "next day."

Killers don't feel guilty. They may however, just feel sorry that they were caught.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm so sick of seeing the "why were they out at that hour of the night/morning?" posts (here and on social media).

Being out after dark is NOT a crime. Not even if you are under 18. Not even if you are under 18 AND have a vagina!

Attacking someone IS a crime. Killing someone IS a crime.

Focus on the actual crimes committed!

I can't believe it's 2017 and we're still victim shaming. Or that people don't understand/realize when they say things like, "why was she out so late" it IS victim shaming.

"I would never let my daughter walk at that time of night." That's great for you, but that still doesn't make what she, her friends, or their parents did wrong.

Such a tragedy.

Umm. Sometimes teens are out that late because there is not an adult presence and they are getting into trouble and doing things that they know are wrong. That is NOT the case in this particular situation - the group of teens had a reason to be out in the early morning hours. However, they apparently did meet up with a bad guy while they were out. This could have happened at any time of the day but the odds of something like this happening are probably higher in the early morning hours when there are much fewer witnesses around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm so sick of seeing the "why were they out at that hour of the night/morning?" posts (here and on social media).

Being out after dark is NOT a crime. Not even if you are under 18. Not even if you are under 18 AND have a vagina!

Attacking someone IS a crime. Killing someone IS a crime.

Focus on the actual crimes committed!

I can't believe it's 2017 and we're still victim shaming. Or that people don't understand/realize when they say things like, "why was she out so late" it IS victim shaming.

"I would never let my daughter walk at that time of night." That's great for you, but that still doesn't make what she, her friends, or their parents did wrong.

Such a tragedy.

+1

I also feel like with these being hijab-wearing Muslim teens, people would assume that their parents have a strong leash on their kids, just because of their preconceived notions - so one would be damned if they do, damned if they don't. It would either be "why weren't parents with these kids?" or "Why don't Muslim parents let their kids have some freedom?"

No one ever seems to ask what killers/rapists/etc are doing out late at night - when they are the ones committing wrongdoing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm so sick of seeing the "why were they out at that hour of the night/morning?" posts (here and on social media).

Being out after dark is NOT a crime. Not even if you are under 18. Not even if you are under 18 AND have a vagina!

Attacking someone IS a crime. Killing someone IS a crime.

Focus on the actual crimes committed!

I can't believe it's 2017 and we're still victim shaming. Or that people don't understand/realize when they say things like, "why was she out so late" it IS victim shaming.

"I would never let my daughter walk at that time of night." That's great for you, but that still doesn't make what she, her friends, or their parents did wrong.

Such a tragedy.

Umm. Sometimes teens are out that late because there is not an adult presence and they are getting into trouble and doing things that they know are wrong. That is NOT the case in this particular situation - the group of teens had a reason to be out in the early morning hours. However, they apparently did meet up with a bad guy while they were out. This could have happened at any time of the day but the odds of something like this happening are probably higher in the early morning hours when there are much fewer witnesses around.

Where on earth are you getting this information? Do you have some source to back this claim up? By all accounts, it was more of a "run-in" than any kind of meeting up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At least the Post had the decency to turn the comments off for their article.

The Post does nothing out of decency.

That's true. It was probably just filling up their server or something and costing them money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At least the Post had the decency to turn the comments off for their article.

The Post does nothing out of decency.

That's true. It was probably just filling up their server or something and costing them money.

Whatever their motivation, the Post is sensitive about stories and comments. I'm not surprised that there are no comments for this story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm so sick of seeing the "why were they out at that hour of the night/morning?" posts (here and on social media).

Being out after dark is NOT a crime. Not even if you are under 18. Not even if you are under 18 AND have a vagina!

Attacking someone IS a crime. Killing someone IS a crime.

Focus on the actual crimes committed!

I can't believe it's 2017 and we're still victim shaming. Or that people don't understand/realize when they say things like, "why was she out so late" it IS victim shaming.

"I would never let my daughter walk at that time of night." That's great for you, but that still doesn't make what she, her friends, or their parents did wrong.

Such a tragedy.

Umm. Sometimes teens are out that late because there is not an adult presence and they are getting into trouble and doing things that they know are wrong. That is NOT the case in this particular situation - the group of teens had a reason to be out in the early morning hours. However, they apparently did meet up with a bad guy while they were out. This could have happened at any time of the day but the odds of something like this happening are probably higher in the early morning hours when there are much fewer witnesses around.

Where on earth are you getting this information? Do you have some source to back this claim up? By all accounts, it was more of a "run-in" than any kind of meeting up.

DP. PP said they met a bad guy. That is purely factual. You're reading too much into the post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm so sick of seeing the "why were they out at that hour of the night/morning?" posts (here and on social media).

Being out after dark is NOT a crime. Not even if you are under 18. Not even if you are under 18 AND have a vagina!

Attacking someone IS a crime. Killing someone IS a crime.

Focus on the actual crimes committed!

I can't believe it's 2017 and we're still victim shaming. Or that people don't understand/realize when they say things like, "why was she out so late" it IS victim shaming.

"I would never let my daughter walk at that time of night." That's great for you, but that still doesn't make what she, her friends, or their parents did wrong.

Such a tragedy.

Umm. Sometimes teens are out that late because there is not an adult presence and they are getting into trouble and doing things that they know are wrong. That is NOT the case in this particular situation - the group of teens had a reason to be out in the early morning hours. However, they apparently did meet up with a bad guy while they were out. This could have happened at any time of the day but the odds of something like this happening are probably higher in the early morning hours when there are much fewer witnesses around.

Sadly, these days most of the people out in the very late night are not up to anything good.
Even in Bethesda and Potomac there are drugs changing hands and robberies going on. In DC there are people out to rob you but also they are just out late at night to hurt you - groups of people even. Just for fun.
Even as a group of teens it would be better not to be out late at night.

How awful I'm very sad for the family and the community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At least the Post had the decency to turn the comments off for their article.

The Post does nothing out of decency.

That's true. It was probably just filling up their server or something and costing them money.

Whatever their motivation, the Post is sensitive about stories and comments. I'm not surprised that there are no comments for this story.

The Post allows disgusting and hateful comments night and day for most articles - they should either turn them off for all articles or moderate. Sure it's time consuming but it's one reason our society is going down the tubes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm so sick of seeing the "why were they out at that hour of the night/morning?" posts (here and on social media).

Being out after dark is NOT a crime. Not even if you are under 18. Not even if you are under 18 AND have a vagina!

Attacking someone IS a crime. Killing someone IS a crime.

Focus on the actual crimes committed!

I can't believe it's 2017 and we're still victim shaming. Or that people don't understand/realize when they say things like, "why was she out so late" it IS victim shaming.

"I would never let my daughter walk at that time of night." That's great for you, but that still doesn't make what she, her friends, or their parents did wrong.

Such a tragedy.

Umm. Sometimes teens are out that late because there is not an adult presence and they are getting into trouble and doing things that they know are wrong. That is NOT the case in this particular situation - the group of teens had a reason to be out in the early morning hours. However, they apparently did meet up with a bad guy while they were out. This could have happened at any time of the day but the odds of something like this happening are probably higher in the early morning hours when there are much fewer witnesses around.

Where on earth are you getting this information? Do you have some source to back this claim up? By all accounts, it was more of a "run-in" than any kind of meeting up.

eh, I wasn't saying that they met WITH this guy intentionally. It was a run in. The kids were walking to/from a fast food restaurant and encountered a nightmare. The kids might not have been doing anything wrong but the fact is that there are people out at that time of night who are up to no good. They do and get away with bad things because there are not a lot of witnesses around.

Why was that particular guy out? We don't know. Maybe he had a good reason for being out, maybe he didn't.