We visited UVA this weekend...

[Anonymous]

UVA grad here. Despite what some others have stated, there are plenty of diverse people with diverse interests at UVA. I was not part of the Greek scene, and managed to graduate without a drinking problem, or racist/misogynistic tendencies. It may not be a good fit for everyone, but I would be happy for my children to attend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, are you SURE you were on Rugby Road? Because it looks like this, not like what you were describing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Virginia_Greek_life

That's one angle.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did you not attend college?

I attended Oxford University, thanks very much.

Bahahahahaha! You do know all we have to do is google 'Oxford drinking parties,' right?? Wow. Not very bright.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/26/drinking-societies-oxbridge-clubs-oxford-piers-gaveston-cambridge-wyverns

Hmmm.. I went to Cambridge, so v similar to Oxford. There was loads of drinking; many students and professors were completely wasted a lot of the time. As a Jew I had to learn the new skill of drinking slowly to seem to be keeping up because there was literally no way I could ingest that much alcohol in one go. I'm not particularly troubled by the idea of students in a bar at 4pm on a Sunday afternoon (actually, I'm not sure where else they are supposed to be?) But having recently visited some US universities including UVA, I think there is a different drinking culture in those schools that I don't really like - or maybe it's the frat boy thing. Anyway, just saying to the OP, I understand where you are coming from.

What does the bolded mean?

NP. Maybe it means...can't drink like WASPs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you not attend college?

I attended Oxford University, thanks very much.

Bahahahahaha! You do know all we have to do is google 'Oxford drinking parties,' right?? Wow. Not very bright.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/26/drinking-societies-oxbridge-clubs-oxford-piers-gaveston-cambridge-wyverns

Hmmm.. I went to Cambridge, so v similar to Oxford. There was loads of drinking; many students and professors were completely wasted a lot of the time. As a Jew I had to learn the new skill of drinking slowly to seem to be keeping up because there was literally no way I could ingest that much alcohol in one go. I'm not particularly troubled by the idea of students in a bar at 4pm on a Sunday afternoon (actually, I'm not sure where else they are supposed to be?) But having recently visited some US universities including UVA, I think there is a different drinking culture in those schools that I don't really like - or maybe it's the frat boy thing. Anyway, just saying to the OP, I understand where you are coming from.

What does the bolded mean?

NP. Maybe it means...can't drink like WASPs?

So, only Protestants drink?

[Anonymous]

It's a good value, I suppose, but locals go a bit overboard on its status. Outside of their law school, nothing about UVA or Charlottesville is elite by any stretch of the imagination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's a good value, I suppose, but locals go a bit overboard on its status. Outside of their law school, nothing about UVA or Charlottesville is elite by any stretch of the imagination.

Agreed. Grossly overrated in Virginia. The south is not known for fine educational institutions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you not attend college?

I attended Oxford University, thanks very much.

Bahahahahaha! You do know all we have to do is google 'Oxford drinking parties,' right?? Wow. Not very bright.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/26/drinking-societies-oxbridge-clubs-oxford-piers-gaveston-cambridge-wyverns

Hmmm.. I went to Cambridge, so v similar to Oxford. There was loads of drinking; many students and professors were completely wasted a lot of the time. As a Jew I had to learn the new skill of drinking slowly to seem to be keeping up because there was literally no way I could ingest that much alcohol in one go. I'm not particularly troubled by the idea of students in a bar at 4pm on a Sunday afternoon (actually, I'm not sure where else they are supposed to be?) But having recently visited some US universities including UVA, I think there is a different drinking culture in those schools that I don't really like - or maybe it's the frat boy thing. Anyway, just saying to the OP, I understand where you are coming from.

What does the bolded mean?

PP here - it means, Jewish people (generally) cannot hold their drink or consume anything like as much as many others (generally - and the group of students in my college was not hugely diverse so really I mean white Christians. Asians were generally not part of the crazy drinking culture either). I'd have one drink to every 2 or 3 of theirs. I still use this technique from time to time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That has got to be tough. UVA is some of the best education you can buy around here, in state, from what I hear. But I could see the drinking culture could be a turn off. I went to Duke in the 1980s and that culture prevailed there. BUT, there were pockets of all other types of people--you just needed to find them. artists, activists, computer nerds, intellectuals, etc. I am sure you can find your group anywhere, even UVA. The drinkers/greeks are probably just the largest and noisiest and easiest to spot.

It's actually pretty diverse and large pockets of non-Greeks, so it won't be hard to find. It's not isolated like Penn State where basically the Greeks run the social scene. But you're right, Greek row is hard to miss. It sticks out like a sore thumb.

Charlottesville probably has the most educated "underclass." A lot of people go to UVA, then settle near by b/c of what used to be a pretty and livable small city. So you'll meet a lot of waiters for example with degrees from UVA.

In short, OP, I wouldn't let Greek row be the deciding factor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, are you SURE you were on Rugby Road? Because it looks like this, not like what you were describing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Virginia_Greek_life

Ha. It also can look like this:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a good value, I suppose, but locals go a bit overboard on its status. Outside of their law school, nothing about UVA or Charlottesville is elite by any stretch of the imagination.

Agreed. Grossly overrated in Virginia. The south is not known for fine educational institutions.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you not attend college?

I attended Oxford University, thanks very much.

Bahahahahaha! You do know all we have to do is google 'Oxford drinking parties,' right?? Wow. Not very bright.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/26/drinking-societies-oxbridge-clubs-oxford-piers-gaveston-cambridge-wyverns

Hmmm.. I went to Cambridge, so v similar to Oxford. There was loads of drinking; many students and professors were completely wasted a lot of the time. As a Jew I had to learn the new skill of drinking slowly to seem to be keeping up because there was literally no way I could ingest that much alcohol in one go. I'm not particularly troubled by the idea of students in a bar at 4pm on a Sunday afternoon (actually, I'm not sure where else they are supposed to be?) But having recently visited some US universities including UVA, I think there is a different drinking culture in those schools that I don't really like - or maybe it's the frat boy thing. Anyway, just saying to the OP, I understand where you are coming from.

What does the bolded mean?

PP here - it means, Jewish people (generally) cannot hold their drink or consume anything like as much as many others (generally - and the group of students in my college was not hugely diverse so really I mean white Christians. Asians were generally not part of the crazy drinking culture either). I'd have one drink to every 2 or 3 of theirs. I still use this technique from time to time.

I have never heard of this before, and I went to a primarily Jewish school, went to and worked at Jewish camps, and worked in a business owned by a family that is Jewish and most of my coworkers and clients were Jewish. So, while I am not Jewish myself, I have spent a lot of time in situations where I am the only person who is not Jewish and no one has ever mentioned to me that they had any difficulty holding their drink. I am not much of a drinker myself, so I guess the topic never presented itself.

Is this well known and I am just the only person who never heard of this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you not attend college?

I attended Oxford University, thanks very much.

Bahahahahaha! You do know all we have to do is google 'Oxford drinking parties,' right?? Wow. Not very bright.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/26/drinking-societies-oxbridge-clubs-oxford-piers-gaveston-cambridge-wyverns

Hmmm.. I went to Cambridge, so v similar to Oxford. There was loads of drinking; many students and professors were completely wasted a lot of the time. As a Jew I had to learn the new skill of drinking slowly to seem to be keeping up because there was literally no way I could ingest that much alcohol in one go. I'm not particularly troubled by the idea of students in a bar at 4pm on a Sunday afternoon (actually, I'm not sure where else they are supposed to be?) But having recently visited some US universities including UVA, I think there is a different drinking culture in those schools that I don't really like - or maybe it's the frat boy thing. Anyway, just saying to the OP, I understand where you are coming from.

What does the bolded mean?

PP here - it means, Jewish people (generally) cannot hold their drink or consume anything like as much as many others (generally - and the group of students in my college was not hugely diverse so really I mean white Christians. Asians were generally not part of the crazy drinking culture either). I'd have one drink to every 2 or 3 of theirs. I still use this technique from time to time.

I have never heard of this before, and I went to a primarily Jewish school, went to and worked at Jewish camps, and worked in a business owned by a family that is Jewish and most of my coworkers and clients were Jewish. So, while I am not Jewish myself, I have spent a lot of time in situations where I am the only person who is not Jewish and no one has ever mentioned to me that they had any difficulty holding their drink. I am not much of a drinker myself, so I guess the topic never presented itself.

Is this well known and I am just the only person who never heard of this?

PP here - interesting... no idea! I'm British and Jewish - perhaps that is the difference? i.e. the way British non-Jewish people drink is very different to the way American non-Jewish people drink. I'd say what I wrote would be instantly understood and recognised by British Jews. And when I say Jewish people can't hold their drink, it's through that (excessive) lens - we can have a few glasses of wine, a few beers, etc. But go to a pub with some of my British (non-Jewish) friends and they're drinking 8 pints of beer, easily.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, are you SURE you were on Rugby Road? Because it looks like this, not like what you were describing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Virginia_Greek_life

Ha. It also can look like this:

But it should not have. That's 2014. Rolling Stone Magazine retracted the entire story in 2015.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's a good value, I suppose, but locals go a bit overboard on its status. Outside of their law school, nothing about UVA or Charlottesville is elite by any stretch of the imagination.

Of course they are, but it's amusing to watch the usual crowd of bitter, left-leaning twits in DC and MD try to take down places that are not "elite" enough for them. Do you morons still not realize why the rest of the country hates you and your peculiar obsessions so much?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you not attend college?

I attended Oxford University, thanks very much.

Bahahahahaha! You do know all we have to do is google 'Oxford drinking parties,' right?? Wow. Not very bright.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/26/drinking-societies-oxbridge-clubs-oxford-piers-gaveston-cambridge-wyverns

Hmmm.. I went to Cambridge, so v similar to Oxford. There was loads of drinking; many students and professors were completely wasted a lot of the time. As a Jew I had to learn the new skill of drinking slowly to seem to be keeping up because there was literally no way I could ingest that much alcohol in one go. I'm not particularly troubled by the idea of students in a bar at 4pm on a Sunday afternoon (actually, I'm not sure where else they are supposed to be?) But having recently visited some US universities including UVA, I think there is a different drinking culture in those schools that I don't really like - or maybe it's the frat boy thing. Anyway, just saying to the OP, I understand where you are coming from.

What does the bolded mean?

NP. Maybe it means...can't drink like WASPs?

This is enlightening! Had I known that I should drink slower, I would have graduated summa cum laude!

-A Jew