Why home prices are lower in north VA than in MoCo, MD

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Anonymous wrote:I was searching for house on sale using zillow, and noticed that north VA (fairfax, falls church) has more homes for sale and the home prices are more reasonable compare with what you can find in Montgomery county, MD. Both regions are close to DC. I guess the effect of DC on both regions are pretty much the same. I heard of many bad things about Moco, such as increasing property tax rate, sanctuary city controversy, weakening public education system, etc. I also hear good things about north Virginia, like good education qulity, etc. Then why are there more houses on market in north VA, and cheaper? Does this meaning that people are leaving VA. And more people are move in MoCo?

Because more international Asian investors buy in MoCo. They MoCo schools have better reputation
and that creates greater interest among the investors.

So why are SAT scores going up in NoVa and down in MoCo? I know a few schools like Wootton are largely Asian but it seems like there are more Asians in Fairfax (over 207,000 per 2015 Census estimates) than in Montgomery (about 148,000). I hope those "international investors" in MoCo don't get burned.

What are the sat scores for the top 4 schools in MOCo and Fairfax? Be interesting to compare.

I'd. E curious about this as well.

Whitman 1897
Poolesville 1862
Churchill 1851
Wootton 1818
MoCo 1631

TJHSST 2198
Langley 1851
McLean 1821
Madison 1789
FFXCo 1672

Because it is a large magnet, TJ has a bigger impact on the test scores of other schools in FCPS than the Blair/RM magnets have on the scores of other schools in MoCo.

Thanks. So THIS is why people say Langley, McLean or bust. I never really got it before

This doesn't even make any sense. TJ is a magnet, it only makes sense to compare it to the scores within the Blair magnet (not the whole school). Which means MOCO comes about ahead.

MOCO is also bigger and more diverse than Fairfax county

To the OP, it is generally more useful to compare smaller, similar areas, like Bethesda/CC to Arlington.

Bethesda/CC prices went up last year while Arlington went down - but I think they are generally rise at similar rates

TJ as a magnet has 1200-1300 kids. And still pull the highest SATs in the country. Blair magnet is what? 400 kids tops? TJ is big enough to pull a significant number of kids from each high school. Comparing TJ and Blair's affects is silly, because TJ is multiples in terms of size. TJ pulled 70-80 freshmen from Chantilly alone last year. Get back to us when Blair pulls hundreds of kids from a single school.

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Anonymous wrote:I was searching for house on sale using zillow, and noticed that north VA (fairfax, falls church) has more homes for sale and the home prices are more reasonable compare with what you can find in Montgomery county, MD. Both regions are close to DC. I guess the effect of DC on both regions are pretty much the same. I heard of many bad things about Moco, such as increasing property tax rate, sanctuary city controversy, weakening public education system, etc. I also hear good things about north Virginia, like good education qulity, etc. Then why are there more houses on market in north VA, and cheaper? Does this meaning that people are leaving VA. And more people are move in MoCo?

Because more international Asian investors buy in MoCo. They MoCo schools have better reputation
and that creates greater interest among the investors.

So why are SAT scores going up in NoVa and down in MoCo? I know a few schools like Wootton are largely Asian but it seems like there are more Asians in Fairfax (over 207,000 per 2015 Census estimates) than in Montgomery (about 148,000). I hope those "international investors" in MoCo don't get burned.

What are the sat scores for the top 4 schools in MOCo and Fairfax? Be interesting to compare.

I'd. E curious about this as well.

Whitman 1897
Poolesville 1862
Churchill 1851
Wootton 1818
MoCo 1631

TJHSST 2198
Langley 1851
McLean 1821
Madison 1789
FFXCo 1672

Because it is a large magnet, TJ has a bigger impact on the test scores of other schools in FCPS than the Blair/RM magnets have on the scores of other schools in MoCo.

Thanks. So THIS is why people say Langley, McLean or bust. I never really got it before

This doesn't even make any sense. TJ is a magnet, it only makes sense to compare it to the scores within the Blair magnet (not the whole school). Which means MOCO comes about ahead.

MOCO is also bigger and more diverse than Fairfax county

To the OP, it is generally more useful to compare smaller, similar areas, like Bethesda/CC to Arlington.

Bethesda/CC prices went up last year while Arlington went down - but I think they are generally rise at similar rates

TJ as a magnet has 1200-1300 kids. And still pull the highest SATs in the country. Blair magnet is what? 400 kids tops? TJ is big enough to pull a significant number of kids from each high school. Comparing TJ and Blair's affects is silly, because TJ is multiples in terms of size. TJ pulled 70-80 freshmen from Chantilly alone last year. Get back to us when Blair pulls hundreds of kids from a single school.

TJ is closer to 1800 kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was searching for house on sale using zillow, and noticed that north VA (fairfax, falls church) has more homes for sale and the home prices are more reasonable compare with what you can find in Montgomery county, MD. Both regions are close to DC. I guess the effect of DC on both regions are pretty much the same. I heard of many bad things about Moco, such as increasing property tax rate, sanctuary city controversy, weakening public education system, etc. I also hear good things about north Virginia, like good education qulity, etc. Then why are there more houses on market in north VA, and cheaper? Does this meaning that people are leaving VA. And more people are move in MoCo?

NIH and gov agencies push up prices in Maryland. DC has always been more expensive.

Guess who's getting hit hard?

http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/news/2017/03/16/virginia-maryland-or-d-c-heres-who-bears-the-brunt.html

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Anonymous wrote:I was searching for house on sale using zillow, and noticed that north VA (fairfax, falls church) has more homes for sale and the home prices are more reasonable compare with what you can find in Montgomery county, MD. Both regions are close to DC. I guess the effect of DC on both regions are pretty much the same. I heard of many bad things about Moco, such as increasing property tax rate, sanctuary city controversy, weakening public education system, etc. I also hear good things about north Virginia, like good education qulity, etc. Then why are there more houses on market in north VA, and cheaper? Does this meaning that people are leaving VA. And more people are move in MoCo?

NIH and gov agencies push up prices in Maryland. DC has always been more expensive.

Guess who's getting hit hard?

http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/news/2017/03/16/virginia-maryland-or-d-c-heres-who-bears-the-brunt.html

This isn't a shock, at least on the VA side. The Pentagon and PTO are here. Several military bases. The CIA. SSA disability HQ. TSA and BPD at IAD and DCA at Dulles. Lots of military and IC agencies. None of these are expected to get hit. DOJ also has a presence, although I'm not sure if it's targeted departments. VA does better under a Trump budget than D.C. Or MD, that's for certain.

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Anonymous wrote:I was searching for house on sale using zillow, and noticed that north VA (fairfax, falls church) has more homes for sale and the home prices are more reasonable compare with what you can find in Montgomery county, MD. Both regions are close to DC. I guess the effect of DC on both regions are pretty much the same. I heard of many bad things about Moco, such as increasing property tax rate, sanctuary city controversy, weakening public education system, etc. I also hear good things about north Virginia, like good education qulity, etc. Then why are there more houses on market in north VA, and cheaper? Does this meaning that people are leaving VA. And more people are move in MoCo?

Because more international Asian investors buy in MoCo. They MoCo schools have better reputation
and that creates greater interest among the investors.

So why are SAT scores going up in NoVa and down in MoCo? I know a few schools like Wootton are largely Asian but it seems like there are more Asians in Fairfax (over 207,000 per 2015 Census estimates) than in Montgomery (about 148,000). I hope those "international investors" in MoCo don't get burned.

What are the sat scores for the top 4 schools in MOCo and Fairfax? Be interesting to compare.

I'd. E curious about this as well.

Whitman 1897
Poolesville 1862
Churchill 1851
Wootton 1818
MoCo 1631

TJHSST 2198
Langley 1851
McLean 1821
Madison 1789
FFXCo 1672

Because it is a large magnet, TJ has a bigger impact on the test scores of other schools in FCPS than the Blair/RM magnets have on the scores of other schools in MoCo.

You can't compare TJHSST to any other school in MoCo schools. If you want to do apples to apples - Blair (Magnet only) - 2253, can't find separate statistics for Pollsville/RM

[Anonymous]

Blair magnet is the absolute smartest kids in DC /Md or Va

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Anonymous wrote:Blair magnet is the absolute smartest kids in DC /Md or Va

OMG Blair magnet booster hates TJ is back. How about this. We stack up the Blair magnet kids with the top 20% of the TJ kids on SATs. That's apples and apples. The average score top 100 kids in MoCo per class vs the top 500 per class in NOVA is not.

Go to sleep Blair kid. You have school tomorrow.

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OP wins. You guys fall for troll everytime!

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Anonymous wrote:OP wins. You guys fall for troll everytime!

Convenient foil to show that NoVa is eating MoCo's lunch. If we have to hear about the Blair mini-magnet again, so be it.

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I can't get past north VA.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't get past north VA.

As a CA native, MD is as far south as I go. There's a mental block.

[Anonymous]

Both MoCo and the NoVa suburbs currently face rising property tax rates, and stresses on school systems. This is due to the combination of aging (despite teardowns/mcmansions and some urbanist redevelopment) housing stock, plus the regional weakness in the commercial real estate market. MoCo, FFX, and ArlCo all continue to have highly esteemed school systems though.

I am not seeing a huge difference.

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It's all about individual neighborhoods and comparing equals. When talking about real estate, comparing Maryland vs Virginia makes no sense at all. Maryland and Virginia Washington suburbs are all part of the same metropolitan region, they both face the same challenges, they both offer the same opportunities.

The key is choosing a neighborhood you like, that is suitable for your lifestyle and that is adapting to the region's challenges in a way that you find acceptable.

[Anonymous]

I've been living in NoVA for 20 years and haven't found quality education for my kids. Not even paying 35K/year

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Anonymous wrote:I've been living in NoVA for 20 years and haven't found quality education for my kids. Not even paying 35K/year

lol

The problem is you.