+1 And I would rather have a baby myself than deal with custody issues. |
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She's divorced, 39, wants kids, and yet lists an engagement ring and $10,000 vacation as must-haves?
Yeah, something is not right here. Why not go ring shopping TOGETHER, select rings TOGETHER, pay for them TOGETHER? |
I actually am 39! (But I'm married and have kids). I could have written this. Sperm donor! |
| Not a chance in hell. |
| Troll? |
| Sperm donor. No added custody worries. If he cannot afford a vacation or a ring, he likely cannot afford a child (they're expensive - even if the costs are spread out over the year and not upfront like a vacation or ring). Don't do it! |
My guess is he earns a decent living but not a huge income. He works in my industry. Job title puts him in 120-150k. His first wife and he went to the Maldives for their honeymoon. My friend's first husband did not make a lot although his family had money. |
This is all irrelevant to the issue. People with lower incomes have children all the time. Where he and his first wife went on their honeymoon is REALLY irrelevant. |
Why do you keep mentioning money? Sounds like either you or your friend is a gold digger. Choosing a husband/father has nothing to do with money. |
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It sounds like your friend and this man need to have an actual conversation. He talks about a baby and seems like he would marry her if she got pregnant? What? They sound like they are in highschool. I by no means think you have to be married to have kids, but I think it should be a conscious decision. I know several couples, including my next door neighbors, who are in happy, committed relationships with several kids and are not married. But your friend wants an expensive vacation and a ring? If she really wants kids and is willing to risk it with this guy she barely knows, then fine. I might have done the same thing if I hadn't met my husband. But she needs to talk to him about it.
Having kids together is a life time commitment, and if only one of them is ready for that, then they need to wait. |
| I'd absolutely do it. Kids were always part of my plan, even if I wasn't lucky in love. |
I'm not sure why you both think that especially given that that's not what he has said. |
I got married at 38. Speeded up the wedding because my doc said, you are old! Come back in 6 months if you aren't pregnant. So we went to the courthouse. This costs about $25 or so for a license. Marriage doesn't have to cost much. Got pregnant in 2 weeks and the baby at 39. Unless she plans on being a truly single mother, she shouldn't just get pregnant now. |
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I would because like other posters mentioned I always wanted to be a mother even if I wasn't lucky in love. I could also see if I had been burned by my first marriage by someone that seem to change overnight, I might actually want to have a baby and hold off getting married to see how things went with the stress of a young child. I would caveat that I would rethink having a baby with the guy if I thought there were any red flags for addiction, abuse, mental illness, crazy in-laws because it would be better to leave the relationship and have no ties to him.
In regards to the engagement ring and fancy vacation, I don't see the point. If neither is planning on a big second wedding, money is tight, and they are planning to have that very expensive bundle of joy known as a child right away, why spend several thousands on an engagement ring and then even more to go to Bora Bora? I could see a some sort of vacation pre-kids. But I would be looking for that bargain travel that you CAN do before kids - slightly off season deals. DH and I went to Ireland in October when we had been dating maybe a year and a half. We still have inside jokes from some of our travel misadventures. I would also say after the trip I knew for sure I wanted to marry him. I would say though if they do anything that is traditionally associated with a wedding without being engaged, it should be premarital counseling. Making sure they are on the same page for the big things and know how to communicate with each other - worth more than that trip to Bora Bora. |
| 39 is 4 years past advanced maternal age |