Ebola patient in Texas has died

[Anonymous]

I don't believe he received sub-standard care, but at first glance, I can understand it seeming strange that every white person treated for Ebola in the US has survived while the only West African to receive treatment here has died.

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Anonymous wrote:Citation? I can't find any news of this.

I did 3 different google searches. That's weird.

I did too when I first saw this thread and nothing came up. I guess the sites just hadn't updated.

You have to sort the search results by time rather than relevance. That's how it came up for me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't believe he received sub-standard care, but at first glance, I can understand it seeming strange that every white person treated for Ebola in the US has survived while the only West African to receive treatment here has died.

every white person was already diagnosed before returning to the US and received the best treatment at the best hospitals.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope people remember what this man did that resulted in his infection. He is dead today because he helped try to obtain medical care for a dying pregnant woman who was turned away from the hospital. He may or may not have known she had Ebola, but either way it was a pretty noble thing to do. What a tragedy.

Was he noble when he lied on the airport screening form prior to comming to the U.S.?

Was he noble when he failed to tell the hospital during his 1st visit where he had been and what he had done?

Was he noble when he returned to the apartment, while sick, and exposed the 5 children from 4 different school systems to his Ebola symptoms?

Sorry, he isn't a hero to me.

a lot of assumptions here.

But they aren't assumptions.

He knew he was exposed.

He knew he was sick.

He knew his symptoms were consistent with Ebola.

He exposed his girlfriend and his child, among others.

Those are facts.

"Dr. David Lakey, the Texas health commissioner, said Tuesday that the next few days could be decisive in determining whether any of the 48 people who came in contact with Mr. Duncan develop the virus.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the maximum incubation period for the virus is 21 days, but symptoms typically appear in eight to 10. Mr. Duncan, who apparently contracted the virus before flying to the United States, began complaining of symptoms on Sept. 24 and was hospitalized in isolation on Sept. 28. The 10-day threshold will pass by the middle of this week.

Of the 48 people under observation, 10 are deemed to be at high risk, officials said. Three of those people shared an apartment with Mr. Duncan and seven are health care workers. The other 38 people are considered to be at lower risk."


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/08/us/ebola-patient-on-ventilator-and-getting-kidney-dialysis-officials-say.html?ref=us&_r=0

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't believe he received sub-standard care, but at first glance, I can understand it seeming strange that every white person treated for Ebola in the US has survived while the only West African to receive treatment here has died.

I disagree. There are many other differences in the cases besides race. Age, gender, time since infection, hospital procedures, on and on and on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't believe he received sub-standard care, but at first glance, I can understand it seeming strange that every white person treated for Ebola in the US has survived while the only West African to receive treatment here has died.

I disagree. There are many other differences in the cases besides race. Age, gender, time since infection, hospital procedures, on and on and on.

I don't dispute that, which is why I used the term "at first glance". Dig a little deeper and the factors you mentioned become more apparent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope people remember what this man did that resulted in his infection. He is dead today because he helped try to obtain medical care for a dying pregnant woman who was turned away from the hospital. He may or may not have known she had Ebola, but either way it was a pretty noble thing to do. What a tragedy.

He lied on paperwork to come here, denying he'd been around Ebola patients. I'll remember that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't believe he received sub-standard care, but at first glance, I can understand it seeming strange that every white person treated for Ebola in the US has survived while the only West African to receive treatment here has died.

"Since Saturday, Mr. Duncan had been receiving brincidofovir — an experimental drug developed to fight smallpox and other highly infectious viruses. The C.D.C. said there are no more doses of ZMapp, another experimental drug used on two American aid workers who later recovered from Ebola."

-from article above.

If his family sues, alleging sub-standard care, it is not just a slap in the face to the health care workers in Texas who risked their lives to treat him.

It would also be a slap in the face to the United States, who cared for him despite the fact that he lied on a screening form before coming here, failed to inform the hospital during his 1st visit on the 24th, and exposed others thereafter.

Don't forget that the president yesterday mocked the paltry response to Ebola by the rest of the world. He is right: we have done far more than anyone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope people remember what this man did that resulted in his infection. He is dead today because he helped try to obtain medical care for a dying pregnant woman who was turned away from the hospital. He may or may not have known she had Ebola, but either way it was a pretty noble thing to do. What a tragedy.

He lied on paperwork to come here, denying he'd been around Ebola patients. I'll remember that.

That's 100% speculation on your part.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't believe he received sub-standard care, but at first glance, I can understand it seeming strange that every white person treated for Ebola in the US has survived while the only West African to receive treatment here has died.

"Since Saturday, Mr. Duncan had been receiving brincidofovir — an experimental drug developed to fight smallpox and other highly infectious viruses. The C.D.C. said there are no more doses of ZMapp, another experimental drug used on two American aid workers who later recovered from Ebola."

-from article above.

If his family sues, alleging sub-standard care, it is not just a slap in the face to the health care workers in Texas who risked their lives to treat him.

It would also be a slap in the face to the United States, who cared for him despite the fact that he lied on a screening form before coming here, failed to inform the hospital during his 1st visit on the 24th, and exposed others thereafter.

Don't forget that the president yesterday mocked the paltry response to Ebola by the rest of the world. He is right: we have done far more than anyone.

Correct. But it's doubtful that the average person on the street knows these details. Hence my point that AT FIRST GLANCE it might seem strange. In other words, I can see someone feeling that way who doesn't have all the facts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope people remember what this man did that resulted in his infection. He is dead today because he helped try to obtain medical care for a dying pregnant woman who was turned away from the hospital. He may or may not have known she had Ebola, but either way it was a pretty noble thing to do. What a tragedy.

He lied on paperwork to come here, denying he'd been around Ebola patients. I'll remember that.

That's 100% speculation on your part.

He is a wanted fugitive in Liberia and maybe texas.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/10/07/dallas-county-prosecutor-considering-criminal-charges-against-ebola-patient-in-texas/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just heard on the news that his family is not pleased with the care he received. I smell a lawsuit.

Well, he was sent home from the hospital the first time around.. however, if he'd been admitted right away, it might not ultimately have helped.
I don't think they win if they decide to file, but I hope they have more sense than that.

Jesse Jackson is involved looking for racism. Imagine if the hospital had said hmmm West Africa and ill?? Into isolation unit you go and he had the flu? Sharpton and Jackson would be inciting riots. That woman is I believe a nurse's aid. These people were not unaware or illiterate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't believe he received sub-standard care, but at first glance, I can understand it seeming strange that every white person treated for Ebola in the US has survived while the only West African to receive treatment here has died.

Remember the doctor and camera man walking into hospitals? It is possible that Duncan was more advanced and was at their stage of hospital entry long before...People die from Ebola. Fact.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope people remember what this man did that resulted in his infection. He is dead today because he helped try to obtain medical care for a dying pregnant woman who was turned away from the hospital. He may or may not have known she had Ebola, but either way it was a pretty noble thing to do. What a tragedy.

He lied on paperwork to come here, denying he'd been around Ebola patients. I'll remember that.

That's 100% speculation on your part.

He is a wanted fugitive in Liberia and maybe texas.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/10/07/dallas-county-prosecutor-considering-criminal-charges-against-ebola-patient-in-texas/

Liberia is concerned about their public image. They have no more proof of this than anyone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't you fools get it? He could have KILLED YOU and your whole family. He may still do so! He does not deserve your pity or compassion.

LOL!

If I die from Ebola, Ebola killed me, not this man. And I, I,I, did I say I get to decide for whom I have empathy, compassion and forgiveness. Yes, there are people who have done horrible things to me and around me and I can still have compassion and forgiveness. I'm not asking you to have it for me, but I'll be damn if I will let you tell me I cannot have it.